Vatican Sex Sting

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  • Posted By: msbelle @ 10/18/2007 6:50:51 PM

    Why am I not surprised? The church is like a lot of the old boy fraternities. They cover for each other just like doctors, lawyers, etc. They only admit a mistake when it hits the press. I used to be a chatholic but the lies and cruelty drove me out.

    • Posted By: julioc @ 10/18/2007 6:56:01 PM

      Actually, you cannot say that. Read St. Paul's letter to the Romans and it will be very clear. Actually it is very hard to be a Catholic. To me, staying in the church shows strength of character ... And remember, the church is within YOU, not outside you. Like you say, outside is the club, the fraternity, .....

  • Posted By: moncaido @ 10/18/2007 6:53:58 PM

    Isn't is ironic that Catholics won't let FEMALES become priests because this is a MAN"S job!!! And they do it soooo well. You don't see the NUNS being brought up on SEX charges on a daily basis. Maybe these WONDERFUL MEN should let a WOMAN do the job. At least they would keep their skirts down. Bravo men, another example of how men screw up the world. I think the WRONG gender has always been in control!!

  • Posted By: gaycatholic @ 10/18/2007 6:33:13 PM

    It is a shame that we have created a reputation on ourselves, have we ever heard of straight pride day, must we always rub our sexual preference in everyones faces?

    • Posted By: road_toad666 @ 10/18/2007 6:45:56 PM

      I subscribe to this opinion wholeheartedly- I am sick and tired of having to defend the way i am because of other gay people making a horrible reputation for those of us that KNOW how to behave and conduct ourselves. My findings are, no one really cares that I am gay, because I am a moral and decent person, that helps out others whenever I can, even those that probably don't deserve it. It has cost me alot of greif, money, and lost sleep over the years- and if i caould go back and change any of it, I wouldn't. THAT is the whole foundation of Christianity, and I am an Atheist! Perhaps that is what it takes- crawling outside the box and really looking at oneself- before you can get the real picture.., If you can make a positive change is someone's life, do it. If you are able, take advantage of your ability to do so- it is a gift, although it can seem like a curse until you figure it out. It will come back to you, mosly in vague means, but people will remember you long after you are gone, and that is the biggest reason to do it at all. That is why Jesus is still so popular today!! It is a shame that people warp things and do such harm to others in his name.

  • Posted By: rashaad97 @ 10/18/2007 6:35:41 PM

    Everybody sins! Man of God choose smoking and leave homosexuality to those that don't know the word!!!!

  • Posted By: rashaad97 @ 10/18/2007 6:34:07 PM

    Everyone sins! Man of God choose smoking and leave the homosexuality to those that don't know the word!

  • Posted By: sodakcat @ 10/18/2007 2:12:45 PM

    the problem is that the church doesn't recognize homosexuality . What do they think? Who do they think they
    are ? The priests are only humans, not God. The church needs to wake up. There are gay men and women out there who should be able to be who they are. Priests are no exception they should be allowed to be married, have relationships, which may fail or surrive, male or female. God made us all .

    • Posted By: Realist @ 10/18/2007 2:17:51 PM

      Please show all of us where in the Bible that "homosexual" behavior is acceptable. Search all day and you'll not find it. The first chapter of Romans is pretty specific on this issue.

      • Posted By: plarsen @ 10/18/2007 2:46:35 PM

        Actually, there are many places in the Bible where homosexuals and homosexual relationships are honored. One need only open up your mind and think for yourself to find them. In addition, many sections said to condemn homosexuality today, did not do so in the original Greek. If you're going to use the Bible to form an opinion, use it. Not what someone or some instituion tells you the Bible says or what it means.

        • Posted By: Gentile @ 10/18/2007 4:20:54 PM

          Wow!- now you're a total crack pot...There is nowhere on the Catholic bible that condones homosexuality, sure they've been gays throughout the ages,,but they weren't calling themselves husband and husband, or wife and wife and we're not greek.

          • Posted By: plarsen @ 10/18/2007 6:32:03 PM

            A crack pot? :-) I guess my posting applies to you as well. However, positive gay role models are indeed in the "Catholic" Bible too. Even Jesus himself interacts positively with some of them. Read it in whatever language you want to. Perhaps you don't understand the Book as much as you think you do.

  • Posted By: rhoff @ 10/18/2007 6:29:50 PM

    The saddest part of all this is that the Pope and the Vatican are still being taken seriously by anyone regarding their 'moral authority.' Starting from the beginning, they have persecuted and murdered millions of people, beyond the Crusades, Inquisition or Nazi support. Their actions towards women, gays and the poor speak volumes while their words prove empty and hypocritical. Much of the world already recognizes this fact; all of us will be better off when the Vatican's wealth is taxed and dramatically reduced while its power is simultaneously diminished.

  • Posted By: reginald @ 10/18/2007 6:29:03 PM

    Its a shame how the men of God is making the catholics church look like.It is poor judgement and i believe that they need to get rid of him and the rest of them. it is nothing wrong with who you want to see in your personal life. But dont preach the word and dont live by it. Its your personal business who you fall in love with.But to bring it to the church house is very wrong

  • Posted By: Gmaauntiesue @ 10/18/2007 6:29:02 PM

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  • Posted By: gaycatholic @ 10/18/2007 6:28:46 PM

    If we are made in gods image, why are we always doubting his word? It is the image of the Catholic church we should be doubting, in regards to all the hype regarding pediphilia, is it our fault? Do we need to brush this aside, like the way al the abuse was brushed aside for years? Priests being sent to other assignments to hide the truth, does the truth really set us free?

  • Posted By: Obie @ 10/18/2007 6:28:23 PM

    Consider the following quote from this article:

    "That's the position the Vatican, still trying to deal with the long-running fallout from pedophile priests, finds itself in after the official, Monsignor Tommaso Stenico...was filmed during an encounter with a youth he was reported to have met on a gay Internet chat room."

    "Film, filming, filmed" are all words that refer to practice of capturing images on motion picture film. Motion picture film is unknown to many today, who were raised in the video generation.

    Motion picture film is a strip of "plastic," that has had a light-sensitive, chemical coating (emulsion) applied to it, much like the 35mm film used in conventional still cameras (that are falling increasingly in popularity due to digital still cameras).

    Motion picture film is so expensive to purchase, process, edit, and duplicate, that it is almost never utilized in "sting" operations.

    Almost certainly, the sting utilized a video camera. Video cameras surprisingly record on videotape, hard drives, DVDs, and Panasonic P-2 cards, electronically. There is no "film" involved.

    One would think that folks in the media, on the Internet, and producing "news" would better educate themselves so that they would know the difference between videotaping an event and "filming" an event.

  • Posted By: road_toad666 @ 10/18/2007 6:11:36 PM

    Here we go again.. A topic like this, and all the nasty and lewd gays come on here and really degrade the whole gay community with their ridiculous profanity, and proud professions of sex with hundreds of people.. I wonder how AIDS is spread?? Hmmm. I will have to think of that one for a minute.. If you want acceptance of being gay or ***, tyr not being such a militant about it, Everyone I know knows I am gay, including several far right Church people I know... and you know what? NOBODY CARES.. It is simply because I carry and conduct myself in a fashion that is appropriate for old ladies and kids alike. The mainstream poulous I find, has no real problem with us if we are not ridiculous and nasty with it. That's my take. -Josh

    • Posted By: triangle @ 10/18/2007 6:20:48 PM

      Amen, Josh... finally someone who makes sense... my orientation is part of who I am, but not my sole defining trait.

      • Posted By: road_toad666 @ 10/18/2007 6:26:21 PM

        I hear ya- I don't know how it is that some of us gays can prance around in the public streets, wearing nothing but a leather G-string, making out with every guy that will let them, making sexual gestures to all of them, in front of kids and the general public, and expect people to say " oh, it's ok- that's the way he was made.." that is NOT going to happen, and it SHOULDN'T.. San Francisco, as far as I am concerned, and all the crap they pull up there, has set us back decades if not longer in making our case. You will never see me at one of those ridiculous, lewd, and unacceptable events.

  • Posted By: AdolfoB @ 10/18/2007 6:20:26 PM

    Why would God Almighty care about who you fall in love with, or sleep with for the purpose? It is time for human kind to drop all this man-created non sense that disguised as religion leads us into denial, self-rejection and intolerance in the name of God. The continuous manipulation of our concience only happens because we allow so.

  • Posted By: gigglewasser @ 10/18/2007 6:17:54 PM

    I also believe that revival is around the corner.. but it will be truly orchestrated by the Lord's hand its not going to look like what we think or want it to be. When I read the book of Acts.. shoot..thats serious stuff. God is awesome! And these are not myths. People are so determined to turn away from truth that they become hardened of heart. A hard heart cannot receive the truth. There are none so blind as them that would not see. There IS The forgiveness of God of course! But you CAN NOT appropriate forgiveness from SIN if you don't REPENT of it! People want forgiveness of sin without some acknowledgement that they are WRONG. Repentance IS the open door to receiving forgiveness. Forgiveness doesn't just jump on you and enter like osmosis. JEsus said "REPENT for the Kingdom of God is at hand" . At hand meaning "Its so close to you, its right beside you, but you cannot receive it unless you repent."
    The revival that is coming is one of Holiness, fire and it will bring division. No more lukewarmness. You are either Hot or Cold towards the Lord. No more fence straddling. Its going to be painful to alot, but "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet lose his own soul?" Is it worth the cost? This is what we are all asking. I dont' want to be passed by when the Lord shows up mighty. I intend to be in the Kingdom of Light, and with his absolute help and guidance, and my absolute dependancy on him I will. "Who is this coming up out of the wilderness leaning on her beloved??" without him we can do nothing.

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