Crossing the Line

i think anyone who kills a baby should have been aborted.

Let all the babies be born,then drowned the ones we dont like.

twinkie1cat is absolutely correct. These anti-abortion activists are generally the same group that opposes increased government spending for social services. If this bunch wants to eliminate abortions, step up to guarantee the child will be cared for to adulthood.

Maybe these people know that if their parents had a choice, they would have been aborted. Maybe we would all be better off if they had been...

A lot lot of people are hypocrites, people should clean out their own house before trying to clean another's!! In this country we make laws and choices that fit the way we want to live, whether it's Godly or not. What about fornication and common law marriage? I wish people would use the energy helping young and or troubled mothers and fathers than standing in front of a building praying. Pray at home or when you pass the place.

What happens to the man's right to these unborn children? Why is it that women think they are the only ones who have the right to choose whether a baby lives or dies? If they are the only ones that have the choice to choose then they should be soley responsible for the care, feeding and provisions (monetary) of that child alone.... Tell me what do you think?

Deuteronomy:
2:33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

"utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones"

God doesn't seem to hesitate killing babies, so why would he oppose abortion? What's a little genocide between God and his followers? (Or a little hypocrisy from "moral" people - Just look at Eliot Spitzer hiring prostitutes or that Congressmen soliciting gay sex in an airport bathroom)

I've always suspected people emphasize religious morality when they are devoid of other traits such as intelligence, creativity, and integrity.

Funny that so many people who are offended if even an embryo the size of a lima bean is destroyed have no problem waging a war when they know there will be "collateral damage" (dead babies, schoolchildren among them). Wars are waged for resources and money and power, which apparently supercedes any reason a woman might have an abortion.

At least the Pope isn't hypocritical being against both war and abortion, but then I wonder why Thailand and the Phillipines had the same population in the 70's and now Phillipines is much more populated than Thailand. The Phillipines has a much larger portion of people who's kitchen pantry is a garbage dump... I wonder why? (Must be all those morally-directed people in the Phillipines)

The world can use a little less of people butting their noses into other people's business, and a little more shutting the heck up.

Well, we're at 6.6 billion people and counting... good job of "being fruitful and multiplying"... should be interesting when the human herd gets culled...

You know, really, here's the thing. I myself think that abortions are killing life, and life is given. However, help me if I'm wrong here, but I think the way to end abortions in this country is not to legislate them out of existence, because that wouldn't work. Abortions will still happen, and that's a sad fact of life. We as a country need to (a) put less restrictions on adoptions of American-born children (there's a reason that people looking to adopt are often forced to adopt from overseas); (b) give mothers who are scared for whatever reason (whether it's because they're in danger from their inlaws, or feel that their lives will be over, etc.) REAL help so that they don't feel that it's something they HAVE to do, and (c) crackdown on any scum of the earth that refuses to help his child and the mother of his own child (note, I do not say man here, because as a man, I feel that a REAL man takes responsibility). And I don't just mean financially. I mean being a part of that child's life no matter what.

Women deserve a society in which they don't feel that they MUST abort a child due to their own circumstances. What I'm saying is that women deserve a society in which abortion is no longer felt to be needed except when a pregnancy is endangering her life (e.g., tubal pregnancies and the such), and that we, as fellow citizens of the United States, should all be ashamed that we aren't currently creating such a society.

Couple interesting things from this article to think about:

1. -- The in-person counseling session required 24-hours before an abortion by Missouri statute is termed one of the state's "more stringent laws". Is this really that unreasonable, so unreasonable in fact that it could called stringent or strict?

2. -- Do you notice on page 2 how Ms. Hile, the clinic manager, uses the term "abortion care" twice in the same sentence. Think that's a coincidence? No. Anybody with any PR background recognizes that is a term that has been coined to downplay the nature of the procedure -- simply an attempt shift focus to "care", which has positive health & medical connotations, and away from abortion, which has negative connotations and is in direct conflict with both the modern and classical Hippocratic oath taken by most medical students upon graduation.

Just wondered about your thoughts on these observations.

I understand the point of the article - that forcing abortion clinics to be licensed as out-patient surgical centers will be a huge hardship to the clinics in Missouri, and that the so-called pro-life lobby (what a misnomer) knew that when they pushed for the legislation. But unfortunately for the Missouri clinics, they SHOULD be out-oatient surgical centers. A first-trimester abortion IS a surgical procedure, particularly when anesthesia is used, and clinics that provide abortions should meet the same standards as clinics that provide any other out-patient surgical procedure.

The rest of the Missouri law, however, is repugnant. As a nurse, when I teach women about conception and contraception, I spend less than a minute discussing abortion - I spend all the rest of my time discussing conception and contraception, sexuallity and responsibility. To exclude good educators from being able to provide information that is so desperately needed just because they work in a clinic that offers abortion services is ridiculous.