Crossing the Line

The whole social construct of the anti-abortion movement needs to be forced to change through social pressure. They need to walk the walk of caring about life and children. If they cannot do so they need to go home.

1. They need to demonstrate their concern for children by becoming social justice liberals. That means they support public education, universal health care, subsidized housing and free higher education and oppose the death penalty.

2. They should not be representing as leaders of the so-called prolife movement unless they have adopted at least one hard to place or special needs unwanted child .

If these people were judged as socially unacceptable if they did not practice what they preach, the movement would fall apart in a matter of weks. ANTIABORTIONISTS ONLY CARE ABOUT BABIES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT COSTING THEM ANYTHING. If they have to walk the walk, they will quit talkign the talk because they are nothing but whiny hypocrites.

The antiabortionists just do not quit. But they don't care a whit about women and children after they are here and COST THEM MONEY or they would be social justice liberals supporting subsidized housing, increased funding for PUBLIC schools, free universal health care and free college tuition and fees. They would also require that all schools hire only certified teachers and start their pay at $60,000. But no, they oppose everyting that helps children because it costs them.

No one should be allowed to publicly call themselves "pro life" and participate in demonstrations unless they have adopted at least one unwanted child and should not be allowed into leadership of those organizations unless that child is hard-to- place or disabled.

However, Michael says she has never posed as a member of the Hope Clinic staff as was reported in the story. "That would be wrong," she says.

The hell she hasn't!

She told my daughter and I, that she was working with the clinic to do the ultra sounds because their regular machine was broken down.

She also said that the clinic paid her to do the ultrasounds and counseling to save time and space.

We figured it out, when she started pressuring my daughter to keep her baby, and not let "those butchers kill it.

She will lie about anything.

well forced-sterilization isn't. and im pretty sure thats what you're talking about.

I haven't seen any statistics about how many women/girls have more than one abortion or how many used birth control before they got pregnant. As for the women who social services thing shouldn't have any more children, why not use sterilization?

It never ceases to amaze me that throughout history there remains a segment of our society that feel justified in telling women what to do with our bodies. To all women who enjoy the freedoms we now have, and have had for about 50 years only, you better keep up withthis movement. As the access to abortion has dwindled, so has access to birth control pills and the morning after. If religious fanatic pharmacists can refuse to fill presecriptions at drugstores, what is next...forced child birth, no birth control like thrid world contries? Wake up women of America!

I have been reading the previous posts here for the better part of an hour, and I find it deeply disappointing that regardless of what you believe or what the next person believes ought to be done about the abortion issue, it seems to be a frequently ignored point that although abortion is an age old woe for many (and for many reasons) the constitution makes no mention of the legality or the morality of the practice.

Well that explains a lot about what is wrong with Angela Michael.

She screams at and physically assaults the other prolifers, and she has screamed at the clinic employees and the women going in.

So it must be the exhaust fumes from the RV she lives in.

the foster care system is not the same as the pro-choice/pro-life argument. if we just focused on fixing the foster care system, they could take away our rights while we aren't paying attention. we need to keep fighting to keep abortion legal (and to regain the rights that we've lost) while at the same time working on the foster care system. we can't just ignore the "political" battle. but personally, i am doing both. i'm going to school right to work in the social services so that i help to fix the foster care system, whie at the same time being an adamant defender and fighter for our rights to our bodies.

Why don't you all focus your energy on the current foster care system. These are the children that are already born and don't have good loving homes. If half the energy that is spent on the pro-life, pro- choice argument, our current foster care system could fixed.

(i keep trying to post this and its not coming up, but here is the post continued:) women didn't get such a stigman and face such consequences for being sinlge and pregnant (especially when they are young), people weren't facing so much financial struggle, the social services system wasn't so off, men learned to stop raping, the religious/conservative right stopped spewing out bullshit "facts" to teenagers that prevent them from getting the proper education and health care that they needed to not get pregnant (b/c like i said. people are going ot have sex no matter what), men learned to start sticking with their families intead of leaving them, our welfare program was more progressive and effective, etc etc. abortion is a necessity for people of every race and class. it affects people all over no matter who they are. at the moment, abortion is a necessity. i wish it weren't but it is.

(continued) people weren't getting pregnant against their will or by accident and there wasn't such a stigma around being a pregnant single (especially when they are young) female and people weren't struggling so much financially and the religious conservative right weren't spewing out bullshit "facts" and preventing children from getting proper sexual education and men learned to stop raping, etc. etc. it goes on and on. (sorry agian for the typos, i can't see the bottom once it gets too long)

i don't care. he's pro-lfie now. he could have been lying when he said that too. and do you honestly think that they know the exact number of people dying from illegal abortions? regardless. one is too many. and thats just in our country. what about world wide? maybe 2 million waiting to adopt a baby. but even so, it's so hard to adopt these days and so many babies end up in the foster care system regardless of the people waiting to adopt. and again, i don't believe the pro-life propaganda. i don't doubt that there are some abortionists who have killed (actually i do doubt that one.), abused, or raped, but how many normal doctors do you thjink do that? and people imn every other profession. again that holds no standing. sorry. and again with the killing thing, more women die from pregnancy complications than abortion every year. shoudl we stop that too? i'm sorry. but abortion is a a necessity. there is no question that it needs to be legal. at least until we have the proper resources and education and economic system and oppurtunities for everyone everywhere that

Here our the exact words of Bernard Nathanson, one of the founding fathers of NARAL that helped legalize abortion. "We aroused enough sympathy to sell our program of permissive abortion by fabricating the number of illegal abortions done annually in the U.S. The actual figure was approaching 100,000 but
the figure we gave to the media repeatedly was 1,000,000. Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public. The number of women dying from illegal abortions was around 200-250 annually. The figure we constantly fed to the media was 10,000." This former abortionist admits to the fact that the numbers were hugely exaggerated! So I ask you, where did you get your figures??
Most importantly, should the law be faulted for making it difficult for women to kill their children??
Lastly, there are 2 million couples waiting to adopt, so the child you believe would be better off dead actually would be immediately adopted by a loving family, not put in the foster system. Do me a favor and do a little research on abortionist who have killed, abused, hidden rape, etc.. and you'd be surprised by how many there are out there. Also look around at how many women have been seriously harmed or even killed by abortionists- there are a lot more out there than you'd think! An industry that kills children is a bad egg!