Inside Karen’s Crowded Mind

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  • Posted By: hyperactivejenna @ 10/22/2007 9:31:55 PM

    Why are you people arguing about this. Do any of you have a Medical Degree? I think not. So why don't you leave the research and arguing to the professionals who have actually studied the mind and psychiatry/psychology. All that you are doing by arguing is convincing yourselves of some half-assed idea created in your head to understand MPD/DID. Seriously, do you really think you deserve to have an opinion on something you most likely know nothing about?

  • Posted By: modsaint @ 10/22/2007 9:09:41 PM

    what an ingeniuos way to survive a traumatic experience. I am amazed with the complexity of the human soul.

    • Posted By: modsaint @ 10/22/2007 9:31:46 PM

      sorry I meant ingenious ha ha I typed too fast :) I am not a genious for sure

  • Posted By: lykewyze @ 10/22/2007 9:31:44 PM

    Blame the parents, the bullies and every one who inflicts hurt in every little or big way, mentally.

  • Posted By: ja3_ @ 10/22/2007 9:30:58 PM

    i hope karen can put all of this past behind her, but as well let the media acknowledge that this is happening in this world and has to be put to a stop, parents that treat their children like a piece of rock should be ashamed and arrested or put into a mental hospital, before their children suffer the consequences. These people that have a chance to speak out should take a stand and try and change this world or else the generations of the future are going to have a very bad upbringing.

  • Posted By: ja3_ @ 10/22/2007 9:30:35 PM

    i hope karen can put all of this past behind her, but as well let the media acknowledge that this is happening in this world and has to be put to a stop, parents that treat their children like a piece of rock should be ashamed and arrested or put into a mental hospital, before their children suffer the consequences. These people that have a chance to speak out should take a stand and try and change this world or else the generations of the future are going to have a very bad upbringing.

  • Posted By: solmarie185 @ 10/22/2007 9:30:02 PM

    God gives man wisdom to come up with cures for illnesses and treatments. Everything in this world is controlled by Him. He is not just a Spirit, He is the source of life. None of us would be living and breathing if it were not by the power of Almighty God. May God bless this doctor for helping this woman through her years of illness and finally regaining her life back.

  • Posted By: nrussell @ 10/22/2007 7:42:24 PM

    Very good article. My wife had similar situations beginning at age 5 and developed 7 distinct personalities to survive the abuse. Yes, it is true and it does happen. There are multiples in the world. It is the only way they survived the abuse, as many others never developed different personalities as they commited suicide.

    • Posted By: dhcrystal @ 10/22/2007 9:25:45 PM

      Glad to see your comment nrussell. I had a wife for nearly 30 years who suffered the same abuse from practically an infant till she finally 'escaped' by getting married and leaving. I'll bet our experiences and challenges would parallel one another. In the end, the challenge that became apparent to me was one of protecting my own children and insulating them as much as possible from the damaging behavior. I was, apparently, relatively successful for them... but at considerable emotional cost to me.

  • Posted By: trevorg @ 10/22/2007 9:18:00 PM

    I need to make a correction with my Posting (wrong sender) How do I do this?

    • Posted By: Todd82TA @ 10/22/2007 9:23:25 PM

      TrevorG? With the 1978 Blue Cadillac Eldorado?

  • Posted By: molly dare @ 10/22/2007 9:21:20 PM

    I know a dear friend who suffers from disassociative disorder. She has 4 personalities that I have witnessed. It has been devistating for her and her family. Prhaps the horrendous physical and emotional abuse by her father contributed... Therapy is helping and her husband and children love her and have stood by her through serious adversity - even prison. She is a brilliant and vibrantly talented woman.

  • Posted By: lrnmnr3 @ 10/22/2007 9:19:04 PM

    to:suziqbluz----pathetic because i have mpd?.......gee thanks.......who's pathetic?..........

  • Posted By: Grey_Wolf84 @ 10/22/2007 8:56:42 PM

    Enter Your Comment

    • Posted By: modsaint @ 10/22/2007 9:17:19 PM

      I am so sorry in my heart for you and your precious family. I Pray you will find healing peace and Gods Grace somehow in all this pain you are experiencing...........

  • Posted By: Todd82TA @ 10/22/2007 9:16:54 PM

    DiffCat, it's not religion that's at fault. That guy was clearly insane (the father). There are people who have personality traits that make them obsessive. If it's not one thing, it's something else. This could be religion, drugs / alchol, or any other thing. I consider myself extremely lucky that I do not suffer from any kind of obsessive compulsion to any great extent (although my obsession with automobiles does come close). For you, it could be the simple act of needing to prove to everyone else that no religion exists at all. For others, people NEED religion to survive. I'm Catholic, I don't NEED religion, but I do draw strength from it. It's part of who I am. Clearly though, this father of hers was no more a devote Christian than he was a frequent shopper at Dairy Queen. More than likely, he was simply insane, and the mother was probably insane too. Which is probably why they found eachother because they too came from insane familes.

    I blame the parents. At least Karen was able to hopefully break the process...

  • Posted By: xxxchexxx @ 10/22/2007 9:13:33 PM

    I think it;s very ignorant to say this is all made up stuff o that is demonic. The mind still has millions of thinks we dont understand and trust me this people are not sufferinf from this conditions because they want to. You say : Hey! deal with your problems!", but we dont all deal with problems the same way, that's kindda obvious. Second of all, most of this conditions have to do with chemical problems of the brain, and some are recesive conditions that a lot of people may have, but they dont live the circumstances for the illness to be active. My brother sufffers from bipolarity and is not because he wants to, it's a chemical reaction and it was reflected on his MRI's (brain colored pictures). So i recomend that people shouldnt talk without knowing. NO ONE, not even a psichiatrist can say what's on people's mind.

  • Posted By: concerned23 @ 10/22/2007 9:07:42 PM

    Calliva500 who made the comments about the demons is very ignorant of the Bible. The Bible has long condemended the abuse of children for a reason. Abuse damages the the spirit and emotions of a child in ways that many will never understand, especially those with no empathy. Ignorance of this causes the proplem to continue and contributes to the violence against children. Violence is of Satanic origin. This woman has experience enough with out be verbally abused again.

  • Posted By: diffcat @ 10/22/2007 9:06:01 PM

    Ahh...religion...the opiate of the masses..please don't get the real world confused with imagination land!...hhahaha demons...LOL! that's the answer to everything! those dang terrorists I tell you..Demons!! all of them!!! Praise the lord Jesus Christ for he created the father that molested you. Just cut it with all that crap.

  • Posted By: vicarial @ 10/22/2007 9:04:12 PM

    listen u have a right to your opinion, but no right in this green earth gives you the right to throw ur views on everyone like a freaking yelling match its so hard to watch someone go through this disorder, but its even harder to be someone going through this. if everyone with this disorder were seeking publicty or attention there would be more of these cases out in the open. i for one have not sought out therapy, and may never do so depending on how i view my needs, u have a right to say hey my opinion is this, but dont downgrade everyone that doesnt have your views. it makes me sick that the world is so close minded about something thats not in their comfort zone. you are judging way to readillyyes some say that this disorder is not real but if there were more light on this disorder.As he points out, there are easier ways to gain notoriety than 17 years of therapy. And how could a poseur have maintained each alter's distinct memories, personality, voice and mannerisms for years, never mixing them up? "Meryl Streep couldn't have done it," he says. The alters even wrote him letters in different handwriting.as this therapsist pointed out they do speak differently different tones hell two of mine are foreign, and know words ive never heard of though ive never been to these places., they write differently and tend to have different agendas different people that know them as i dodont know so
    listen here lady or man i dont care who you are just sod off u flighting wanker, get your dries off and go dance in the4 sun for a bit

  • Posted By: mytrang @ 10/22/2007 9:01:22 PM

    I dont want to scare anyone but she is not the only case in the world that has been effected by multi-personallity. i do believe there is a psycological way to explain it but at this moment in time the world does not have the ability to cure this problem...i dont believe that drugs should be made to cure this. ive known a person that has this and its sorta distrubing to her. but really its because karen has a weak personality and needs to gain self control..and if she can communicate with the other personalities..she can try to fullfill the their wish but do not do so if it comes in harm of karen. the multi personality in my opinion is just lost souls..i know it sounds supernatural but in karen with her past depression and loneliness it can create an entrance for souls to come in and out. But again it depends on what you have seen and experimented to judge on wat you believe

  • Posted By: joanastrid @ 10/22/2007 8:29:23 PM

    Oh, for pete's sake, not this garbage again. This is the nonsense of recovered memories again, a fad psychological theory that has been debunked by good research. The phenomenon of DID/MPD is created in people with attention-seeking personality disorders within social groups of other "survivors" of abuse or in therapy with quack therapists. The diagnosis is highly controversial, because most well-trained psychologists and psychiatrists realize that the condition is created by suggestion and that the "recovered memories" of abuse are unlikely to be true. People are TAUGHT to be multiple. You can watch the process yourself on any message board for abuse survivors. The typical "survivor" goes through a long period of doubting her memories and fearing that she is making them all up....because she is. It is through the encouragement of quack therapists and other "survivors" to accept dreams and imagination as memories that the pornographic stories of horrific child abuse and satanic rituals come to be accepted as truth. It is because of this kind of bad therapy and social influence that we saw the "Satanic Ritual Abuse" scares in the 1990's, and it took thousands of dollars and a full-scale FBI investigation to show that the ridiculous stories of widespread networks of cults sexually abusing children did not actually exist. The diagnosis of MPD/DID is given by a subset of quack therapists who are looked upon with disdain by well-trained psychiatrists and psychologists. They make people WORSE by teaching them to uncover bogus repressed and dissociated memories of abuse. Every time we think repressed memories have been thoroughly debunked, another garbage news story like this surfaces to get everyone all excited. The existence of MPD/DID shows that the cancer of repressed memory therapy is still alive in mental health today. Until we get these quacks out of business, women will keep developing false memories of abuse, and their lives will continue to be destroyed as they withdraw from their families and center their lives around being abuse "survivors." What a horrible article, and what a disservice to mental health in this country.

    • Posted By: lrnmnr3 @ 10/22/2007 9:00:23 PM

      for someone who can at least spell, you don't appear to be very intelligent in the way to react to such critical issues, such as trauma excruciatingly painful enough to cause an individual to "split", that require at least a "small" amount of compassion-since that's probably all you have.

    • Posted By: ekushkina @ 10/22/2007 8:57:08 PM

      Although, I do agree with you on certain points (there were many cases discovered to be bogus in regards to "satanic" thing) however many of them were true...most of the time a person that recalls the same memory over and over and over again will find that the memory changes slightly over time, untill it becomes comepletely distorted from the truth. Most cases of memory recovery are NOT suggestive. Even in police investigations of child abuse officers are taught not to ask leading questions which would "plant" ideas into a young mind, but ask them to retell what had happened. To ignore all possibilities that child abuse does happen is pure ignorence and blindness. I also find it odd that you say WOMEN will develope falls memories. There are many cases where grown men have remebered abuse...look at the cases recently with catholic priests. To keep a closed mind and not be open to possibilities to help people overcome the difficulties is horrible.

  • Posted By: mytrang @ 10/22/2007 9:00:14 PM

    I dont want to scare anyone but she is not the only case in the world that has been effected by multi-personallity. i do believe there is a psycological way to explain it but at this moment in time the world does not have the ability to cure this problem...i dont believe that drugs should be made to cure this. ive known a person that has this and its sorta distrubing to her. but really its because karen has a weak personality and needs to gain self control..and if she can communicate with the other personalities..she can try to fullfill the their wish but do not do so if it comes in harm of karen. the multi personality in my opinion is just lost souls..i know it sounds supernatural but in karen with her past depression and loneliness it can create an entrance for souls to come in and out. But again it depends on what you have seen and experimented to judge on wat you believe

  • Posted By: superpsycho17 @ 10/22/2007 8:44:10 PM

    I am in school to become a Psychiatrist. I don't know a whole lot about MPD, but I do know that my mother was diagnosed with it when I was 5. She has been my inspiration through school. I can sit in a room with her and lift different objects or talk about different things with her, and literally point out five different people just in the way that she speaks, acts, and some times even looks.
    I think that saying that this is a fake disease is ignorant. People don't know enough about this topic to judge it.
    I for one will be purchasing the book that Dr. Baer wrote- just so that I may better understand it.

    • Posted By: overtheedge @ 10/22/2007 8:47:35 PM

      I am in school to become a Soical worker and if you had time or if you can ethicly I would love to learn more from a first hand experance so when I get in to helping people I can help them or refer them to someone who might understand them better. my e-mail is overtheedge39@hotmail.com If you can not talk thats ok good luck with school. God Bless

      • Posted By: Smith N Coffee @ 10/22/2007 8:57:27 PM

        you should contact Dr. Ike Eisenhower who is a Doctorate prepared Social Worker who treats patients all of the time with this disorder. He practices at Christian Psychotherapy ASsociates in Virginia Beach, VA. I had the opportunity to observe treatment that he gave to several D,I.D. Patients. Yes, it is real. You can ask him about it and he can refer you to articles he has written.

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