Inside Karen’s Crowded Mind

To Choonser: Blah, Blah, Blah - do more research!
Washington State no longer funds these quack therapies due to the very negative outcomes (suicide, self mutilation etc.) and because these type of negative treatments are more expensive than traditional/world approved psychiatic treatment s along with good meds that are often called for to get the mentally ill back on track. Example: psychizophrenia, bi-polar etc. which are very seldom caused by any trauma but chemical imbalance.
IF you are interested in opening your mind, I will send you the Washington, U.S. study into this matter and I highly recommend a New York Review of a best selling book "Victims of Memory" "Sex Abuse Accusations and Shattered Lives" written by my friend Mark Pendergrast.
Education can not only save the vulnerable/mentally ill from years of useless and expensive therapy turned to torture, and it can also save lives!
Claudette

Actually, Claudette, Shapiro has not gotten rich from the promulgation of her technique, which now uses a variety of stimulii other than hand and finger movement ()I've had the opportunity to meet her, and my therapist teaches the techniques and protocols around the world) Different folks respond to different tools, some to varied sound, others to vibrating pads. The technique can, in the hands of the naieve, be utterly worthless, but with appropriate prep, it can consolidate the insightful work of several talk therapy sessions into one.

I am not sure, Claudette, what your reference to lobotomies has to do with a discussion of DID. However, now that you mention it, I note that the neurosciences have continued to study the brain, using far less invasive techniques now, such as MRI and PET scans, to study how the awesome nature of the brain works to express affect, though and action.

And, your personal attack remains non-responsive to the reality that I am DID, that I was diagnosed after my memories returned, and were confirmed by a family member prior to his suicide. My therapist has been scrupulous to avoid even the scintilla of suggesting memory content, leaving that to be my prime work as I explore, not the memory, but the affect retained in the memory. Respectable therapists do that. I am so sorry that your experience, as you represent the information, was so bad. It is not universally that way, as my posts and the posts of others on this site attest. Fortunately, you cannot blow away our individual and collective experiences by simply claiming that we are deluded, ill informed, defrauded and huxtered simply because that suits your embittered life view.

Was there at time that DID was overdiagnosed, as choosner suggests may be the case? Wouldn't surprise me. Simulattaneously, I note that milder forms of DID evade diagnosis because the presenting etiology is subtle, as many of us who remain coconscious are able to lead highly functional lives. I continue to hold down a six-figure senior role in my professional services firm, have, in the past, acquired four degrees in six years from two of the US''s more competitive universities and have a caring relationship with my wife and stepson. By now, I have worked through many of the issues that caused me to be depressed, and now live a life of some real joy.

I would note that my goal has never been to fully integrate, but rather to achieve an internal communication between parts that allows me to function largely without internal conflict, with clear motive and concise action. I'm there now, and life is good. In fact, there are days that it is great!

So, Claudette, what irrelevant factoid will you now plunge off on to attack out of this post? Curious minds who remain fascinated by this train wreck of a posting site will be fascinated to see.

Sadly, I understand the intensity and nature of your bitterness, because there were times in my life when I

And a dangerous diagnosis at that! Did these quacks ever consider my 2 yr. old grandbaby that was running around the apartment, when they told my Jackie to sit in that damn closet?
You've dropped the ball my friend when you would not take me up on my offer for you to share conclusive proof of actual DID individuals or scientific proof to this malady.
As to the body of Psychiatric Professionals that are going to upgrade the Manual edition 5, don't forget that at one time the answers to serious psychiatric conditions in their earlier versions, were lobotomies. One of the Kennedy daughters was subjected to this barbaric surgery because she did not fit the mold in this rich political family. It was Joseph that ordered that up! Read your history!
God help us when mental health care givers actually present themselves as horribly abused or sexually abused individuals trying to give competent care.
How does any client trust a so called DID care giver with their care when they'll never know if one of those therapist's alters comes to the forfront and maybe attacks them?
Would you believe that all of my mentally ill/suicidal - probably psychizoprenic daugher's group therapists, calling themselves (facilitators) use to give their histories, real or imagined to all these young, mostly poor welfare girls and therefore there was a proven (Tranferral) mechanism going on at that particular center?
The proof of that statement, to this day sits in the files of the investigating psychiatrist and also in the files of government officials that actually, along with the United Way, did fund this horrible crap that kills!
A cheap and ineffective way to deal with the skyrocking mental health issue of any country is to fire the truly professional, close up all the Mental Health Facilities, throw the most vulnerable in our society out on the street and hope they go to one of these centers and no one gives a rat's ass or is held accountable when tragedy hits!
Why indeed, would anyone care until the truth that every time a young vulnerable depressed woman comes into their center, they receive $40,000.00 from the Federal Government for that year of treatment by individuals who often don't even have a B.A. in Psychology. Incidentally, in Canada, we now consider a B.A. in anything (BUGGER ALL).
Have you your Master's Choonzer?
Claudette

Regarding Choonzer's comment, "You may also have researched a handful of other cases of bad or abusive behavior by pseudo-professionals. But you have absolutely no knowledge about the lives or treatment of the nice folks who have posted here, yet you speak as though you're God's Gift to them." While you berate an obviously devastated victim of malpractice, you - yourself, add insult to injury by hugely underestimating the high volume of therapists and doctors who have done similar harm to that of Claudette's family. This type of bad, suggestive therapy has taken many many victims internationally. The fact that you (and others who are dedicated to addressing your own, narrow understanding) refuse to accept the stark numbers of bad therapy victims, HIGHLIGHTS the struggles of iatrogenic / false memory proponents to effectively advocate and educate the masses. As long as problematic therapies continue to be applied to alleged abuse victims, induced false memories and iatrogenic dissociation disorders will continue to occur.

Just remember Choozner - Claudette's daughter truly believed in HER therapist and treatments rendered way back when. Ask any 'recanter' - prior to discovering what occurred in therapy, they would've walked through the fire and back for their caring, dedicated therapists too.

Research both sides - thoroughly. Lives are in the balance. Claudette - you have my deepest, sincerest sympathies.

Oh, and incidentally, thanks for your thorough knowledge of the next Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - edition 5. Guess what, I'm aware of it!
Furthermore there are many Psychiatrists that are actually fighting to have this nonsense removed from the lineup of legitimate diagnosis!
Once again, the only reason I am fighting individuals like you regarding DID is in fact to save them from years of useless/dangerous therapy.
The quacks that so called treated my daughter, directed her to sit in a closet, holding a teddy bear so she could get in touch with the (little one) inside her and to concentrate on retrieving (more) memories that she never had in her life until they sunk their filthing nails into her.
Piss Off, now I'm going back in black areas and believe me my girls would not want me to go back there or ever consider suicide again - for the sake of my beautiful son, their beloved brother and uncle.
You'd be shocked to see the absolutely beautiful family pics before my daughter was driven insane by your bunch!
Regards: Claudette

Oh come on Choonzer! Ethical/Well-researched? give me a break! Anyone who still believes in DID needs a refresher course - BADLY! Especially if you are trying to be in the healing arts!
OK, tell me about these so called (legitimate cases), who are these individuals and where is it documented that they (2 to 50 or more personalities) is legitimate??
IF you have those stats, the proof, hand them over to me and I'll have my experts look them over and give you their synopsis.
Up for the challenge smart guy?

If people would use common sense and try to help themselves or go to a no nonsense Psychiatrist, guess that would put you out of business eh?
Cheers!
Claudette

Hi again Claudette. I was really done arguing with you, but am noticing that despite all the articulate and sincere postings of others who have first-hand experience with D.I.D. symptoms and treatment, you continue to spew animosity and sarcasm at anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion.

You constantly accuse others of being brainwashed, of not "broadening their minds" or employing common sense. You are the worst offender in this regard. You may have a pretty good idea of what happened to your daughter. You may also have researched a handful of other cases of bad or abusive behavior by pseudo-professionals. But you have absolutely no knowledge about the lives or treatment of the nice folks who have posted here, yet you speak as though you're God's Gift to them. Please have a look at yourself. You need serious help, and possibly one or more of the medications you so enthusiastically proclaim. It is indeed a small mind that belittles the suffering or experiences of others, particularly total strangers. Despite your immense self-satisfaction, you are NOT an expert in psychology, trauma and abuse, or mental health treatment. And even if you were, your incredible level of bias and over-confidence in your own beliefs would render you useless (or even dangerous) as a resource to others. It's people very much like you who become the abusive professionals you so despise.

Soldiers returning from battle suffer terrible PTSD and never disconnect, rather just like anyone who has endured abuse of any sort, they have a hard time trying to forget their trauma in order to get on with their lives.
Claudette