Stalin, Mao And … Ahmadinejad?

Conservatives have become surprisingly charitable about two of history's greatest mass murderers.

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  • Posted By: ColoradoCathy @ 08/30/2009 2:00:48 PM

    How disappointing. Having watched Zakharia's CNN show a few times, I expected this article to be more measured and reasonable. He has lost a great deal of credibliity with me. Perhaps he is a better moderator of others discussing their ideas than in coming up with his own.

  • Posted By: logic&reason @ 05/01/2008 1:38:27 PM

    Perhaps the muslim author has a bias?

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 12:59:26 AM

      Fareed Zakaria is not a Muslim. I see this stupid-ass misassertion every time he does an article. Read up on him in Wikipedia - not that it would matter to me if he was, but your allegations of bias are based on false premises.

      • Posted By: VAVEE @ 09/23/2008 6:40:42 PM

        FAREED ZAKARIA IS AS MUSLIM AS YOU CAN GET....BE THAT AS IT MAY IF ITS IN WIKIPEDIA IT MIGHT BE TRUE....NOT

  • Posted By: suhail_shafi @ 06/08/2008 12:33:07 PM

    Thank you for this article Mr Zakaria. I think it is commendable that you are now distancing yourself from the likes of the other neoconservatives and have taken it to yourself to expose their lies and myths.

    Of course, Iran has a long list of legitimate greviences against the US, from the overthrow of the legitimate leadership of Prime Minister Mossadegh in 1953, to the installment of the heavy handed autocracy of the Shah, to the corporate and military support of the human rights abuses committed by the regime installed, from the support for Saddam's aggression against Iran, to the shooting down of an Iranian civilian jetliner in 1988. Add to that the bellicose and threatening rhetoric against Iran by US politicians despite the National Intelligence Estimate's conclusions the Iranians probably gave up their nuclear bomb project as early as 2003, to mention nothing of Hillary Clinton's chilling threat to ``totally obliterate'' Iran - yes it is fair to say the Iranians have a whole litany of reasons to mistrust US foreign policy.

    • Posted By: VAVEE @ 09/23/2008 6:32:03 PM

      YOU SAY MOSADEGH WAS A GOOD PRIME MINISTER??? YOU ARE SO WRONG FROM WHAT I REMEMBER OF HIM HE WAS A TIRENT LIKE MUSALINI/HITLER...AND YOU SAY THAT THE SHAW WAS BAD? HE WAS THE ONLY REASON THAT THE CHRISTIANS WERE NOT GENOCIDED BY THE MULAHS...YOU LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND SPREAD YOUR LIES ABOUT IRAN YOU FORGET THAT GOD HAS WITNESSES ALL OVER THE WORLD AND I HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THEM AGAINST THE TIERANY OF IRANIANS AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS WHO WERE BORN IN THAT COUNTRY....AND AS FAR AS IRAN HAVING ANYTHING AGAINST USA THEY SHOULD THANK THEIR GOD THAT WE ARE NOT LIKE IRANIANS WHO WILL KILL AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER...I LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND ITS INPERFECT LEADERS...WHO ARE HUMAN AND NOT TIRANTS...I DISOWNED MY BIRTH COUNTRY IRAN AND HAVE ADOPTED USA AND I HAVE NO REGRETS...OK ONLY ONE THAT PEOPLE LIKE MAHMUDNAJADI IS ALOWED TO ENTER THIS SOIL...AND EVEN ALLOWED TO BREATH THE AIR SHOWS HOW WONDERFULL THIS COUNTRY IS...SHE ALLOWES ASHOLES LIKE HIM AND CHAVEZ TO ENJOY OUR FREEDOM....

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 12:56:55 AM

      I am an American, but I agree. The list of our covert actions against Iran is a lengthier and far more abusive list than the USS Cole bombing. And I apologize to the Iranian people for the hysterical voices and actions of my countrymen. Most of us would gladly prefer peace, but that small terrified minority does its best to scream so loud that other voices are drowned out...hopefully, in the political arena, we will not be.

  • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:59:23 AM

    As an American, I want to say that I'm not fooled by neoconservative and media rhetoric about the dangers of Iran. I think this is another dangerous flight of fantasy that the overgrown boy in our Oval Office is undertaking, living out childish fantasies of saving the world from evil, and in reality murdering thousands upon thousands of people while never taking responsibility for his own actions. It's fueled by American hysteria, paranoia, and ignorance and promoted by an Israeli lobby who are ignoring their own moderate population as badly as we are ignoring ours.

    Invading Iran would be a brutal act of warfare by the U.S. and probably completely collapse much of our economy to boot. It would be a moral, economic, and strategic mistake of unprecedented proportions. As a patriotic American, I urge my people back into sanity and away from this dangerous rhetoric.

    • Posted By: VAVEE @ 09/23/2008 6:20:23 PM

      you have no clue what you are talking about you must be a man...this country (IRAN) IS RUN BY MEN THEY DO WHAT THEY LIKE AN OLD MAN WILL RAPE A 15 YEAR OLD MENTALY RETARDED GIRL...SHE GETS HUNG IN FRONT OF EVERYONE WITH OUT A HEARING HE GETS TO WATCH HER HANGING PROBEBLY HAVE AN ORGASAM TO BOOT...SO PLEASE DO NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW PRES BUSH IS THE ONLY MAN IN USA WITH ANY BALLS TO STANDUP AGAINST THESE OLD FARTS...SO TAKE THAT TO YOUR PROFESSOR....MR OR LITTLE BOY....

  • Posted By: zaaazu @ 10/24/2007 11:10:15 PM

    to Syderijed:
    You and other Israel firsters conveniently hide the fact that your spoilt little Israel has more than 200 nukes and more weapons of mass destruction than any country in ME. All paid for by US tax-dollar money. Disloyal Israeli firster Jews should be bombed first and hanged in Times Square. Your kind of unpatriotic Americans are the ones taking US to war with all in MidEast for you dreams of Greater Israel. Israel is the biggest terrorist in the world.

    • Posted By: Spyder1jcd @ 10/27/2007 1:37:12 PM

      Zaaazu, when Shimon Peres says that he wants to wipe an entire nation off the map and starts calling Muslims "pigs" and "subhuman," then we can talk.

      • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 4:49:38 PM

        Those comments have all been translated ridiculously poorly by our media. There is no phrase translating to "wiped off the map" in Farsi; what Ahmadinejad actually said was closer to "the current expansionist regime in Israel must come to an end".

        Why don't you try learning something about these cultures you so roundly condemn before you start thinking you know what's going on?

  • Posted By: Spyder1jcd @ 10/24/2007 7:09:52 PM

    Mr. Zakaria's article is cleverly deceptive, to say the least. Reading it, I momentarily forgot the big picture regarding Ahmadinejad. Zakaria creates the illusion that any threat Ahmadinejad poses to anyone is nothing compared to, say, the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. He depicts the idea of Iran bringing about World War III as absurd. But is it? Zakaria fails to take a few important things into account. No, Iran does not have the strength of a superpower like the Soviet Union. But if a country like Pakistan can develop nuclear capabilities, why not Iran? And no, Iran may not have any Middle Eastern allies beyond Syria. But Ahmadinejad is in bed with forces outside the Arab world, like Russia. And as long as Zakaria is invoking North Korea, let's not forget the $10 million missile deal that Saddam Hussein had with Kim Jong Il shortly before we went in and broke up the party. Is it really a stretch to fear the Axis of Evil coming full circle via a similar missile deal between North Korea and Iran, especially considering the fact that this deal was being negotiated in Syria with the knowledge of the Assad government? And perhaps most prominently, Zakaria completely ignores the very real danger that Ahmadinejad poses to Israel, a very important ally of ours in the Middle East. Indeed, many of Ahmadinejad's comments regarding Israel and Jews are more than a little reminiscent of Hitler. And if, as Hans Blix admits, Iran is capable of developing long-range missiles (able to hit Europe and the U.S.) by 2015 (which, unfortunately for Zakaria's argument, falls within Ahmadinejad's two-term limit), who's to say how early Iran will have a missile that only needs to reach Israel? Does Iran really need to attack US to incur a military response from us? Finally, Zakaria makes a terrible mistake in saying that "we're on a path to irreversible confrontation with a country we know almost nothing about." First of all, we know all that we need to know about Iran, namely that it is under the control of a president who has both the means and the motive to launch a disastrous attack on either the United States or Israel in the near future (and who, despite what Zakaria claims, is not a harmless figurehead, and can be granted military control by the Supreme Leader). And more importantly, there is no imminent conflict. As nearly everyone from Bush to Giuliani has stated, military action against Iran is merely an option, albeit a very serious one. Although Zakaria depicts otherwise, American conservatives would like nothing more than a peaceful and diplomatic solution with Iran. But with the U.N.'s failure to take any determined steps in that direction, and Ahmadenijad showing no signs of ending his quest for nuclear weaponry, launching a pre-emptive strike on Iran is becoming a more prominent possibility, and a viable one at that.

    • Posted By: Beh_zad @ 10/25/2007 4:32:57 PM

      Dear sir,
      you are missing one point that is Facts Vs. imagination
      The author talks about the facts but, you are talking about "what if".
      What if china start bombing US. WE need to go after china and the rest of wold as well

      • Posted By: Spyder1jcd @ 10/27/2007 1:34:39 PM

        Tell me this: has the Chinese president ever expressed explicit support for Islamic terrorists? This is not some far-fetched "what if" based on a hunch. Have you even seen the propaganda broadcast on Iranian television? Ahmadinejad supports the radical anti-West ideologies of Jihadists and Islamists, and Iran is aiding the terrorists killing our soldiers in Iraq. Iran is our enemy. No, we do not know if, should Iran develop nuclear weapons, we will be the target. Like I said, military action is merely an option, and by no means the front-runner. But it needs to remain on the table, especially considering Iran's overt hostility to our ally Israel.

        • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:44:33 AM

          We have so badly mistranslated just about every Persian statement that Ahmadinejad and Khamenei ever made that I would not trust the literacy of any Western media news report on them. Ahmadinejad did not state that "Israel should be wiped off the map". His words were closer to "I hope that the expansionist regime in Israel ends". This is more akin to an American saying "I hope the next president is less warlike than Bush" instead of "my countrymen should be killed because of who they are". It's one of the most dangerous mistranslations I've ever seen.

  • Posted By: bill 64 @ 10/24/2007 12:43:44 PM

    I think we shold go after i ran now ,i am tired of these weenie cowards that think iran is the greatest
    country.in the world.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:40:59 AM

      Learn to type before you come in with comments that could kill millions. Newsweek badly needs moderation on these boards.

  • Posted By: staind @ 10/24/2007 10:51:04 AM

    im my opinion the monetary system should turn out from USD to EURO.Or U.S People should limit Bush authority in financial system if the world war III wants to be avoided .If we expand the topic with an example ??f a mad person armed with heavy weapons he can harm himself as well as others.U.S government has an oppurtunity to expand the money stock in the world which can finance its demand.Bush armed himself with this weapon but he dont know how his policsy will effect the economy in the future.Greenspan pointed this problem couple of days ago.U.S citizens pay taxes and Bush spread this money to the world without any knowledge for bringing democracy to the other side of the world but he is not able to finance this war with taxes he finance this war by boosting money stock.Other words we should compare Bush and H??ttler.One of killed millions of Jewish another is still killing millions of muslim. The world war III can be prevented by changing the monetary system or resignation of Bush.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:40:22 AM

      The Euro will probably replace the American dollar as the world's dominant currency if the U.S. initiates military action against Iran. The American economy (my country's economy) will almost certainly collapse to an extent rivalling the Depression or worse.

  • Posted By: 911isajoke @ 10/23/2007 10:07:30 AM

    Mr. Zakaria is absolutely correct. Whatever we might think about their leadership, Iran poses no threat to us. Bush claimed Iran wanted to destroy Israel and thus there would be World War III, but in reality Ahamadinejad referred to Israel as an illegitimate state which would "vanish from the page of time". Please see "WIPED OFF THE MAP" - The Rumor of the Century by Mr. Arash Norouzi for thorough proof of this claim: www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/rumor-of-the-century

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:36:16 AM

      Yep, exactly. I can't believe that our Western media is so bad at reading Persian, but then again, most Western countries have Middle Eastern language departments that would shame a community college.

  • Posted By: bingogringo @ 10/22/2007 7:48:05 PM

    Where is it written that Iran MUST fire a missle into Israel?
    Why not use a smaller device delivered into Tel Aviv and avoid the ARrow Missle defense.
    They would still get a retaliation...but they would have leveled Tel Aviv.
    I wish it were as easy as Fareed implies.
    Fareed must also realize,...FEAR is real. You can't merely tell someone their fears are unfounded. We can't expect Israel or others to relinquish their fears, just because there is some analysis that finds Iran unable to attack. FEAR is real to those who feel it.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:34:08 AM

      Bullshit. The emotion is defensible; letting it control you is not. Fear never justifies war or murder if it's unilateral.

  • Posted By: kara_reloaded @ 10/21/2007 11:24:21 PM

    Dear friend. I am an Iranian. My question is whose side are you on? I do ot favor American hegemony or US-Iran war. But low military budget or GDP do not prevent Iran from hitting israel. I ASSURE you of the fact that if the Islamic clerical dictatorship in iran gets its hands on a nuke on friday, they will certainly hit Isarael with it on Saturday. they dont care about their low military budget. their approach is not realistic or scientific. Their approach is mythological and ideological. ideology cannot be understood in factual terms. That is what you have ignored in your analysis. yes, Ahmadinejad is a pupet but who pulls the strings? THIS IS THE QUESTION. Those who pull his strings are exactly those who support Hizbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Palestine. So it does not matter who is the president. If these things did not happen during Khattami's presidency it was not because of the reforms. It was becasue it was not the right time. After Khattami, Khamenei and his counsellors needed a reckless blockhead to be stupid enough to neglect what the world wants. I am telling you. Iranians do not want "peaceful" nuclear energy. They need developing economy and political freedom.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:05:46 AM

      Israel is understood to have enough nuclear weapons to completely blanket Iran's population, and they would not hesitate to do this. I have a hard time believing even Khamenei would martyr 70 million of his own people and destroy a country that's existed since ancient times.

      • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:25:01 AM

        Actually, reading about Khamenei more, I'd say he's far more sane than Bush. We've been misinterpreting a lot of the Persian language used in their speeches - what we've interpreted as "wipe off the map" was really meant to imply that the current Israeli government needs to end, not their people.

        Dear God, what a frightening country we have become to start mistranslating things that badly...

    • Posted By: worldlover @ 10/23/2007 4:13:50 PM

      mister kara am sorry for you i understand that you are praying god or whatever for this war to start but it will not hapen thanks god bush is not so stupid as he looks and islamic republik will live on sorry

  • Posted By: collingwoodh @ 11/19/2007 3:32:04 PM

    In my view, we should nike Iran off the map, a la Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If anyone objects, we should nuke them, too. This includes Beijing and Moscow. As for retaliation from Moscpw or Beijing, consider that we now how have a population of 300,000,000. Our population during World War II was 160,000,000. This means we could afford to lose half of our population and still emerge as mighty a nation as we were at the end of WWII.

    While we're at it, we should bring WWII to a proper close by nuking Berlin and Tokyo as well.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/04/2008 1:00:21 AM

      It is important that you are never allowed to direct military strategy or make a law.

  • Posted By: angryrat @ 05/20/2008 8:53:39 AM

    Not so Cleverman,
    Let's look at the laundry of the US, shall we? Mexican War, Spanish-American War, Laos, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Columbia, Iran-Iraq war, Iran '53, Iran-Contra, Panama, Iraq 2003, Chile, supplying the "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan (look how well it turned out), and the list is far from over. Coups, terrorist acts, harboring terrorists, targeting civilians, covert, proxy wars, preemtive wars (you know for what Jodl was hanged), the list just goes on. I think you might be that pot calling other utensils black. Or just a hypocrite.

  • Posted By: Cleverman @ 05/01/2008 2:32:10 PM

    There has been quite a bit of hurtful language among the comments here. So gstorm85, flipzeppelin, and frydulka, a very spirited Seig Heil to the three of you on this pleasant May day. You do not remember obviously 1979 when these lunatic Iranians took our US Embassy staff by force, breaking all international laws and held them captive under brutal conditions for 444 days. You do not remember 1982-83 when Iran's paid assassins Hezbollah blew up a barracks in Beirut Lebanon killing over 200 US Marines, and 50 French soldiers. You do not recognize that Hezbollah was the perpetrator of the blowing up of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aries Argentina in the early 1990s killing 83 people, and for which the government of Argentina has issued an interpol arrest warrant for the former Iranian leaders Rafsanjani and Fallahian last November connected to that act of terrorism. Iran today is forming its own private terrorist army in the 3 country area of South America from which it can launch operations against the US homeland through our porous border with Mexico. You are not thinking about the alliances being formed with Venezuela's own lunatic, Hugo Chavez, and with the Bolivians, and perhaps with Brazil's left leaning government. You do not mention Iran's holding of several Al Queda leaders in a resort town in Northern Iran, but they will not turn these people over to the US for questioning about 9/11 activities. Of course, since you despise Jews, you may have attended the conference in Tehran last year hosted by Amaddogonajihad which had a theme to prove that the Holocaust never happened. These are fine people running the government in Tehran. We just need to understand them better according to your way of thinking, It is the idiots in our own government you condemn. It is a lot like blaming the victim in a rape situation.

  • Posted By: logic&reason @ 05/01/2008 1:38:19 PM

    Perhaps the muslim author has a bias?

  • Posted By: pjsmooth1 @ 11/20/2007 10:58:37 PM

    Grow up collingwoodh. You sound like you live in the past and really dont understand the world as it is today. If you think we can spare half of our population in a world war, why dont you be the first off of the ship and see what a difference you will make. Nukes is not the answer, its a power trip that should have never been discovered. If we are true fighters put up your dukes and stop wishing you could destroy millions with the push of a button. In my opinion we shouldnt be afraid of Iran or anyone else for that matter, but solve our matters in a less nuke way. Yes we are a mighty nation and have proven it on many occasions. Instead of tarnishing our great reputation, we need to use it to help other less fortunate nations who want to better themselves and become a part of a world community since we are all a part of the same species. :)

  • Posted By: pjsmooth1 @ 11/20/2007 10:55:49 PM

    Grow up collingwoodh. You sound like you live in the past and really dont understand the world as it is today. If you think we can spare half of our population in a world war, why dont you be the first off of the ship and see what a difference you will make. Nukes is not the answer, its a power trip that should have never been discovered. If we are true fighters put up your dukes and stop wishing you could destroy millions with the push of a button. In my opinion we shouldnt be afraid of Iran or anyone else for that matter, but solve our matters in a less nuke way. Yes we are a mighty nation and have proven it on many occasions. Instead of tarnishing our great reputation, we need to use it to help other less fortunate nations who want to better themselves and become a part of a world community since we are all a part of the same species. :)

  • Posted By: cjjoy@verizon.net @ 11/09/2007 4:57:09 AM

    Podhoretz and Lewis sure want us to bomb Iran, now why is that ? Also Israel has the same goal because they see Iran as an evolving competitor in their backyard. And Bush seems to pursue reinforcment for his proclivities.
    Thank heavens for Mr. Zackaria .

  • Posted By: Tchaikovsky @ 11/03/2007 12:38:06 AM

    Different country ,different ideology .

  • Posted By: tedchicago @ 11/02/2007 3:22:13 PM

    How did our liberal media become so blind, ignorant and yet prideful of these obvious facts? Does Fareed understand how obscure Hitler and Stalin where in the beginning and it was thier hatred which drove them to the crimes against humanity which they ended up commiting? wake up America and read your history.

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