Haditha Unraveled

"I can't understand what the hell is going on!! Our county was attacked, over 3000 innocent civilians, women and children, killed......and half of the nation wants to pretend it never happened. . . . ." -quoted from faminchins post below.

Why then are you trying to portray that 9/11 attacks are justification for the war with Iraq? If this is not an attempt at justifying this war with the 9/11 attack, why did you write that? If Al queda WAS there in any significancy, why did the administration go to war for THESE reasons: Iraq has the bomb, Iraq has chemical weapons (remember Colin twirling his anthrax vial in his hands?), Iraq has long range missles. etc.
Why would you lie to go to war when you could have used the truth? . . . . the people would surely have more easily supported a war with Iraq if it was proven there was a significant threat from al queda there. If you don't recall correctly, Bush was chastised for losing his focus on Osama and Al queda, and putting Saddam in his sights. Thats right, he turned his attention FROM Al queda TO Saddam. Not turned his attention from Al queda in Afg. to Al queda in Iraq.

"Faminchin's post were he claimed we went to Iraq to protect ourselves from Al queda, which is not the case." Faminchin never made such a post! But to say Al Queda wasn't in Iraq before we got there is a total lie. We have recovered documents that prove they were already there. They had met with Saddam and his henchmen.

To say Al Queda was not in Iraq is another Democratic montra that's been carried forward, without any reguard to the truth. If Al Queda wasn't in Iraq, then Iraq was the only country they weren't in.

Stop denying the truth and spreading our enemies propaganda. That's all I am saying!

When can my comment be posted? You've only posted FIVE comments today. it's now Noon. What's the hold up?

C3227:
Also, that comment I made was in response to Faminchin's post were he claimed we went to Iraq to protect ourselves from Al queda, which is not the case.

Clearyohed
Who is really lying here? It was Sandy Berger that was stealing top secret original documents to save the Clintons. Now your going to believe the same people in regards to Bush lies? If so, your a good German that is simple minded and easliy controlled.

clearyohed
Listen to yourself. It is the media that keeps telling the lies, not the Bush admin. I can't stand Bush but, I am not doing myself or anyone else any favor by buying the media and the Democrat talking points hook line and sinker.

You obviously are capable of holding a reasonable thought, why do you buy the crap that Al-Qaeda wasn???t in Iraq? You have stated a new york times piece almost word for word.
I have so many news articles that are outright lies it is scandalous. Of course Al-Qaeda was in Miami, Fl, Germany, France, England, Saudi Arabia etc. but if you don???t believe Al-Qaeda was in Iraq google Abu Nidal and Al-Qaeda. If you look at this you might realize who is lying to you.

you don't use a saber in surgery,you want a clean war? then don't send in the army or marines! once you do accept collateral damage!!! want to blame someone? blame the u.s. gov't!

Anyone who really cares to know the truth backed up with documentation instead of "unknown sources" can go to:
http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/Exclusive/AlQaedaInHaditha-NatHelms.htm

It is interesting to note just how erroneous the media???s reporting on that incident was. It???s falling apart because they are not guilty of it!!!!!!!!! This rag made it sound like the whole thing just fell apart. The men directly involved in this were exonerated!!!!!!!!!! Don???t you love when they use the ???unknown??? source card? Perhaps the unknown source was sits in the cubicle next to him! That way, they can say whatever they want and it can???t be verified. I doubt this comment will last more than an hour before the editor either shuts down the post or creates a new one but I tell it anyway.

Why didn???t Dan Ephron mention that the hearing officer Lt. Col. Paul Ware, recommended the entire case be dismissed???its kind of relevant, don???t you think?
part 1 of 3

The most important thing is that they also failed to mention that the entire story from Tim McGirk (CNN) sources were known insurgent propagandists and it was McGirk???s Time reports that created the Haditha massacre hoax. This, incidentally is the same McGirk who partied with the murderous Taliban after 9/11 and proclaimed them to be a fine upstanding bunch of just plain folks. The courageous McGirk has now refused to testify at Chessani???s Article 32 hearing where defense attorneys insist he would have been torn to pieces in cross examination.

According to McGirk???s first story, Hammurabi Human Rights group and was affiliated with Human Rights Watch had given him a video taken after the killing of the civilians in the houses near the site of the IED explosion. Almost immediately, Human Rights Watch vehemently denied they had any connection or any ties or association with the Hammurabi Human Rights Group, and Time wrote a retraction

It was then revealed that the Hammurabi Human Rights group was a group of two: Hadithi and Ali Omar Abrahem al-Mashhadani, a Reuters News Service reporter who was previously arrested by U.S. Marines. His American warders told Reuters that he was released in a general amnesty in late 2005 along with about 500 other Iraqi prisoners. Reuters also reported that he spent five months in U.S. custody before being released without charges. Three months later al-Mashhadani found Time magazine???s, Tim McGirk

Marine battalion S2 knew that the insurgents were following their usual practice of videotaping an ambush. And it was a series of cell phone communications between Hadithi and Mashhadani, both known insurgents that alerted the Marines to the impending ambush.

Part 2
In late March, McGirk released al-Hadithi???s ???evidence??? to the world. Marines who specialized in signal interception told Helms they were shocked when they heard al-Hadithi and Mashhadani were mixed up in it. In his testimony Capt. Dinsmore revealed that both men were operating freely throughout the province before purportedly announcing the creation of their human rights organization in early 2006. Marine intelligence officers were aware of their intelligence activities because their frequent cellular telephone conversations were monitored, they said.

Marine intelligence have stated that when McGirk first contacted the 3rd Battalion and asked to interview the men of Kilo Company, he was invited to come to Haditha and the men were told by Chessani (who is under indictment for Haditha) to answer all his questions fully and truthfully.

On the day before he was due to arrive in Haditha from the safety of Baghdad???s Green Zone, NBC reporter Bob Woodward and his cameramen were badly wounded. McGirk promptly canceled his trip, saying it was too dangerous.

March of the next year, wild allegations began to surface that these Marines knowingly massacred innocent Iraqi civilians. The hysteria against these Marines was set off by a Time magazine reporter whose only sources were known insurgent propagandists, civilian supporters of al-Qaida, or civilians intimidated by al-Qaida thugs.
On the basis of the Time story alone, and in the face of the fact that Time was forced to retract parts of the initial story four times, the media across the world reported that the Kilo Company Marines had gone on a rampage. The Time report claimed Marines had massacred 24 innocent civilians on Nov. 19, 2005, in retaliation for the death by IED of one of their fellow Marines.

In response to the media charges and those echoed by Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., and the result of a badly bungled investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigation Service (NCIS), the three heroes were falsely charged with a number of counts of murder.
Since then, these Marine heroes and their parents have been living a life of total hell. Unless you have been incombat and understand the decisions that have to be made, in some cases instantaneously, it is hard to arm chair this thing. They should all be cleared.

Well yeah, call me crazy, but I though that as Americans, we owed it to our people in uniform to not start calling them murderers until after they were tried and convicted. I guess that goes out the window when we start flapping our arms and running on emotion...or running for office ;-)

Well it's nice to see that the fair minded have reached their conclusions before all the evidence is in - never mind verdicts being reached. Just like certain members of our political leadership who are building their careers on the backs of the soldiers they're throwing under the bus. Nothing new about that - it's how some got into Congress to begin with. I wonder how the troops in the field manage to do their jobs at all, considering the deafening roar from the assemblage of reactionary idiots who sent them into battle in the first place.

Theres political scapegoats in every war!! They dehumanize the enemy,teach you to kill,and when you do,depending on what party's NOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE AT THE TIME,object? ITS A DISCRACE!