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  • Posted By: SayYesi2Dr.NO_2008 @ 10/22/2007 7:26:36 PM

    Yah, *nice* pic of Dr. Paul by the kid... geez he looks sinister... It really makes Newsweek look bad - not Dr. Paul -

  • Posted By: LIB261 @ 10/22/2007 6:54:33 PM

    VOTE "YES" FOR DR. NO!!

    YES, REPEAL THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX, ABOLISH the IRS, ABOLISH the Fed counterfeit machine, REPEAL corporate welfare, REPEAL busybody regulations, REPEAL the ???Patriot??? Act, END airport insanity, REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL !!!

    We need to put government back in its place.

  • Posted By: LIB261 @ 10/22/2007 6:53:26 PM

    VOTE "YES" FOR DR. NO!!

    YES, REPEAL THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX, ABOLISH the IRS, ABOLISH the Fed counterfeit machine, REPEAL corporate welfare, REPEAL busybody regulations, REPEAL the ???Patriot??? Act, END airport insanity, REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL !!!

    We need to put government back in its place.

  • Posted By: mrjw @ 10/22/2007 6:24:46 PM

    I'm from New Zealand (Far corner of the world) I don't think Ron Paul is a crank I think he would be the best thing for the world and America. Most of the world don't think he's a crank ! I lot of them think he would restore America back to place we all wanted to emulate. Now considered embrassing or your fool if you support the big stupied school yard bully. The world wants peace and to think america is cool again

  • Posted By: drmoorece @ 10/22/2007 5:57:41 PM

    Maybe the Media should declare the results of the New Hampshire primary "null-and-void" before it even occurs... That way, if Ron Paul makes a decent showing (or even wins), the Media can say, "Oh, it's just those Ron Paul extremists, skewing the vote, as we predicted." Maybe RP should get some 'presidential shoes', Howard; what kind are YOU wearing??

  • Posted By: truth1776 @ 10/22/2007 5:24:12 PM

    Stop distorting the facts or stop being such an ignorant idiot. Ron Paul is not an isolationist, he is a non-interventionist (i.e. empire building).

  • Posted By: yikes! @ 10/22/2007 5:01:03 PM

    I'm ready for Ron Paul! Others want to expand the gov, even though the foundations are manifestly seen as miry clay, but what we need is limited government! But are the people ready to be weaned away from "we'll take care of you" promises that the neo-cons and democrats never cease to make? I'm ready... ready to have US troops come home and end this war, ready to opt out of Social Security, ready for a REAL change!

  • Posted By: DCRichards @ 10/22/2007 4:45:45 PM

    Please note: I made a mistake n my previuos post. I wrote that The mainstream media should start doing polls that included 50-1000 people.

    I meant to say 50-100,000 people.

  • Posted By: DCRichards @ 10/22/2007 4:24:20 PM

    There's an elephant in the room here Howard and you and the rest of the media establishment are looking increasingly suspect as you try to ignore it. Ron Paul is the frontrunner, if not one of the frontrunners, in this campaign.

    You still think Giuiani, McCain and Romney are the major players in this race. Amazing. McCain's campaign is always on the brink of collapse and Romney's campaign survives only by Romney himself lending it money.

    Ron Paul has raised more money than McCain and Romney, wins or places in most of the straw polls.

    You keep referring to these polls. Why? They're unreliable to say the least.
    Paul's name is sometimes not even included in these polls. These "polls" don't reach people who don't use landlines.
    The polls don't refelect the obviously large number of people it takes to raise $5.4 million dollars donated in samll denominations.
    The polls don't reflect Ron Paul's enormous web presence and popularity. A massive prescence on a massive medium like the internet can't be ignored. It must be reflected in the poll results in order for the polls to be considered accurate.
    The polls don't reflect the fact that Ron Paul wins the online votes after each televised debate usuually by a wide margin. The number of people participating in these online votes dwarfs the number of people canvassed in telephone polls and as such constitiute a much more accurate sample of public opinion. Thousands and thousands of people (not spammers as falsely alleged by some) vote in the online post debate votes, as much as 70,000 people. Yet we are supposed to take the word of 500 or 1200 telephone poll respondents over that of 70,000 online voters???
    The responsible, intelligent response to the fact that online voters' numbers dwarf that of telephone poll respondents and return entirely different results than telephone polls would be to make the telephone polls more representative. The mainstream media should start doing polls that included 50-1000 people.

    Sure there'seen some "polls" that show Ron paul ahead with 98% but they have to be balanced against those that show Paul with only 2 or 3%. The truth lies somewhere in the middle is my guess.

    Another problem with these "polls" you in the mainstream keep citing is they leave out a lot of Ron paul supporters. Pollsters ususually call only a certain type of voter for example people who voted Republican in the last election, usuually only Republicans who voted in the last Presidential Primary. A legitimate poll canvasses a wide cross section of the population.
    Much of Paul's support comes from people who didn't vote in the last election and/or are Libertarian and Democrates crossing over as Republicans to vote for Paul this time.

    The problem for the mainstream/corporate media is that their continued obvious reluctance to cover Ron Paul fairly is fast becoming an issue itself. It's costing you credibility and good will among an ever larger segment of the population.

    The appearance is one of

  • Posted By: iconoclast63 @ 10/22/2007 3:24:21 PM

    The American people rejected the League of Nations in 1919. It should not be that controversial to suggest that giving up sovereignty to the U.N. is repugnant to the principles of a constitutional republic. The American people also rejected the Second Bank of the United States under Andrew Jackson and refused the bankers attempts to resurrect it for over 70 years. For these ideas to gain traction all that is necessary is for the media to talk about them and educate the people. As a matter of fact, the Arizona state legislature voted to demand that the Federal Reserve System be abolished as recently as 1980.

  • Posted By: Epistemizer @ 10/22/2007 3:16:11 PM

    I think his chances are decent, at least in a place like New Hampshire that has always been proud of its 1776ish roots. What I do know is that the more people who hear about Ron Paul, the more people who support him. Even more than Reagan and Goldwater, RP stands as someone who MEANS WHAT HE SAYS. People are drawn to that, even a lot of people who lean to the left b/c they are getting so desperate to end the war that even a 'libertarian crank' will do if it means that end will be fulfilled. And with Ron Paul, you KNOW it will. There is no doubt.

  • Posted By: Epistemizer @ 10/22/2007 3:09:29 PM

    I don't know, but the more people who hear about his message the more people seem to get on board. The country 'flirts' with these idea every now and again--especially in a place like New Hampshire which is so rich with 1776ish sentiment and pride ("Live Free or Die" is, hands down, the best state motto in the history of state mottos, though I think Virginia's "Sic Semper Tyrannus" comes in a respectable second.)

  • Posted By: bigtimernc @ 10/22/2007 2:00:30 PM

    The reason why Finemen says Ron Paul is isolating himself from both major parties is because of his views on the U.N and the Federal Reserve system. As you might imagine this isolates both a majority in Congress as well as Americans in general regarding foreign and economic policies. What do you think his chances are of convincing people that both need to be eliminated?

  • Posted By: R3VOLUTION @ 10/22/2007 1:57:01 PM

    Ron Paul may not have designer shoes, but if this is how we judge leadership I wonder what people would say today of history's most important leaders, some of whom wore rags and had no shoes. While the media wants us to focus on the superficial, perhaps some people are instead focusing on Ron Paul's message, and the message is freedom.

  • Posted By: R3VOLUTION @ 10/22/2007 1:56:24 PM

    Ron Paul may not have designer shoes, but if this is how we judge leadership I wonder what people would say today of history's most important leaders, some of whom wore rags and had no shoes. While the media wants us to focus on the superficial, perhaps some people are instead focusing on Ron Paul's message, and the message is freedom.

    While the media wants us to focus on the superficial, perhaps some people are instead focusing on Ron Paul's message, and the message is freedom.
    Ron Paul may not have designer shoes, but if this is how we judge leadership I wonder what people would say today of history's most important leaders, some of whom wore rags and had no shoes.

    While the media wants us to focus on the superficial, perhaps some people are instead focusing on Ron Paul's message, and the message is freedom.

  • Posted By: Jive Dadson @ 10/22/2007 1:31:20 PM

    Great article! One correction though: Ron Paul's policy is not isolationist. He advocates free dialog and free trade with all nations. It is the militaristic, interventionist policies that both parties now advocate that isolates the US from the rest of the world. Ron Paul's policies are non-interventionist, not isolationist. Big difference.

  • Posted By: Jive Dadson @ 10/22/2007 1:31:06 PM

    Great article! One correction though: Ron Paul's policy is not isolationist. He advocates free dialog and free trade with all nations. It is the militaristic, interventionist policies that both parties now advocate that isolates the US from the rest of the world. Ron Paul's policies are non-interventionist, not isolationist. Big difference.

  • Posted By: maggiebott @ 10/22/2007 12:54:16 PM

    Enter Your CommentRon Paul isn't a candidate, he's a patriot which makes him stand out as the true American running for president. He will end wars and free us from big government!

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