Where the Jihad Lives Now

karaswart ur so full of nonsense, i have come to conclusion that there is no point in trying to talk to a person who is STUCK IN THE PAST. get over your mommy india philosophy!!! u might have made india for what ever holy reasons (ya! a caste system is holy) , but something better came out of it accept it!
its better to turn to a place more rich in culture and tradition (Arab) than turn to some cow worshipping, pis drinking and believers of a ugly discriminating cast system practicing society.
u know somebody tell me something where did indians jump into this anyway, they are such big attention seekers, everything is about them. i bet they think sept 11 was planned by isi to kill a few indians in world trade centre. india is not even imp in this war of terror, stop trying to divert attention to your trivial and petty issues. this discussion board is about a totally different issue i.e how judgements should not be passed on a nation and the urban cities of Pakistan are far from talibanisation.
by the way i have this Italian friend i am showing him around and he LOVES Pakistan, may be you can come down here to Lahore and see how amazing Pakistan. but dont go back in tears and regret cuz i know one thing would be looming in your mind after seeing Lahore, why is such a great city not a part of India, but hon! thats precisely the point its great cuz its not in india!
:)
Khuda Hafiz!

There are no stats or comparison between Iraq and Pakistan in this article. It's mis information. Shame on you News Week!

karaswart ur so full of nonsense, i have come to conclusion that there is no point in trying to talk to a person who is STUCK IN THE PAST. get over your mommy india philosophy!!! u might have made india for what ever holy reasons (ya! a caste system is holy) , but something better came out of it accept it!
its better to turn to a place more rich in culture and tradition (Arab) than turn to some cow worshipping, pis drinking and believers of a ugly discriminating cast system practicing society.
u know somebody tell me something where did indians jump into this anyway, they are such big attention seekers, everything is about them. i bet they think sept 11 was planned by isi to kill a few indians in world trade centre. india is not even imp in this war of terror, stop trying to divert attention to your trivial and petty issues. this discussion board is about a totally different issue i.e how judgements should not be passed on a nation and the urban cities of Pakistan are far from talibanisation.
by the way i have this Italian friend i am showing him around and he LOVES Pakistan, may be you can come down here to Lahore and see how amazing Pakistan. but dont go back in tears and regret cuz i know one thing would be looming in your mind after seeing Lahore, why is such a great city not a part of India, but hon! thats precisely the point its great cuz its not in india!
:)
Khuda Hafiz!

There are no stats or comparison betwwen Iraq and Pakistan provided in this article. It's a shameful atempt to misinform the public. Shame on you New Week!

This article is primarily based on many ambiguities.An analogy has been made between Pakistan and Iraq where the latter has been described as the most dangerous of two countries regarding peace and security.The real figures of death toll each day in Iraq have not been discussed.There has been no description of the fact that each day in Iraq the so called "MOST PROFESSIONAL ARMY" of US loses it's one or two soldiers.Moreover ,many defenseless citizens are also in the line of fire.No doubt recently Pakistan has been hit hard by terrorist attacks but still the situation is far more harmonious than Iraq.I castigate this notion"Today no other country on earth is arguably more dangerous than Pakistan". I severely condemn US on it's policy on "WAR ON TERROR" which has fueled the terrorists to attack the allies OF US in this war.In retrospect,Taliban and Al-qaeda are the product of US.When US backed the "MUJAHIDDIN's" to fight in Afghanistan against USSR.Soon after fulfilling it's interests US left these fighters stranded and Pakistan had to absorb them.Consequently this has exploded the situation in N.W.F.P province especially in Wariztan and Fata belt.News week editors should have shown more responsibility in writing this article keeping in view the facts from history and present.
Awais Shah
Islamabad,Pakistan

I do agree with this article,but it is astonshing that Bush adminstration still backing Mushraf.
The only soloution is that the FATA should be brought in the main stream line and law of the land should be implemented.
Free and fair elections should be allowed, no indiviual should be singled out to be as fevoured.

Ali. Peshawar

Dearest Qassu: Whatever we Indians follow is our own creation. Indian religions- Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism etc. etc. were invented in India for the sake of Indians. For us India is the holy lnd- we don't turn towards Arab lands to pray. Most mathematical inventions came from India- concepts of zero, negative numbers etc. etc. I guess Hinduism, a way of life more than a religion was designed by Indians for Indians and has worked for many thousand years, inspite of several barbaric inventions. Christian fundamentalists are already here. They are free to convert. But no Indian truly converts- whether Christian or Muslim. The Indian ( Hindu?) traditions are deep rooted. See the number of Christians and Muslims worshipping Ganesh before starting projects.

Let the fundamentalist Christians come in greater numbers. Let us see how they change in a few years. Even the greatest of the Moghuls- Akbar- started his own religion Din-e- elahi, meanining of course that he converted from his original religion. The same happened to Mother Teresa. Welcome to Indian soft power. See what Bollywood is doing to you. Namaste!!

This article is primarily based on many ambiguities.News week editors should have shown responsibilty in writing this article................!!!!!!!.An anaology is made between Iraq and Pakistan where latter has been declared as the most dangerous of two.I castigate this notion.Real situation in Iraq should have been depicted where every day the so called 'most profeesional army' loses its one or two soldiers are killed.Besides this many defenseless citizens become a victim of sucide bombings.No doubt recently Pakistan has been hit hard by terrorist activities but still it is a serene and peaceful country.I condemn US against it's policies towards "WAR ON TERROR".It has fueled terrorists to press their foot hard on close allies with US in this war.Taliban and Al-qaeda are the product of US 's own policies.When USSR invaded Afghanistan US supported these "MUJAHADIN'S" and after fulfilling their interests US left them stranded and Pakistan had to absorb them consequently...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Many Pakistani people sentiments have been crumpled like a paper ball in this article.I urge the editors of news week to show mature attitude to such a sensitive matter regarding Paksiatn 's image in the world and it has been gravely hurt by this article.

dear karaswart i am afraid i cant really use the words fraganant for u cuz who ever comes from india tells me it smells really bad, no offence be netural its a fact! i now welcom you to see the light. Pakistan was not made cuz Quaids daughter and family could live in it, it was made for people with a separate ideology and believes, some people who want to slaughter cows and have a regular source of protein.
i have to agree with you we have alot of cultural similarities, the clothes we wear, the language we speak, our marriage cremonies, basant and the list goes on... however this is not the end of life islam is a separate code of life. we really would not have asked for a separate homeland had u hindus not been so extremist!!! what makes me think that look at your self you still cant get over the past and are still cribbing over what has happened and mind you that was suppose to happen. you are suppose to learn from the past and not get stuck there. MATE! wake up and smell the roses, that has happened, act as a responsible citizen of the world and try to make peace and not war and hate. and meowsroar i totally agree with you, why on earth do u have a god of destruction , what is it trying to teach you. oh! plz dont get offended i am just stating a fact.... am i no?

dear karaswart i am afraid i cant really use the words fraganant for u cuz who ever comes from india tells me it smells really bad, no offence be netural its a fact! i now welcom you to see the light. Pakistan was not made cuz Quaids daughter and family could live in it, it was made for people with a separate ideology and believes, some people who want to slaughter cows and have a regular source of protein.
i have to agree with you we have alot of cultural similarities, the clothes we wear, the language we speak, our marriage cremonies, basant and the list goes on... however this is not the end of life islam is a separate code of life. we really would not have asked for a separate homeland had u hindus not been so extremist!!! what makes me think that look at your self you still cant get over the past and are still cribbing over what has happened and mind you that was suppose to happen. you are suppose to learn from the past and not get stuck there. MATE! wake up and smell the roses, that has happened, act as a responsible citizen of the world and try to make peace and not war and hate. and meowsroar i totally agree with you, why on earth do u have a god of destruction , what is it trying to teach you. oh! plz dont get offended i am just stating a fact.... am i no?

The most ironic thing that I found about the whole article was that the commentators totally ignored the role of West and their involvement from providing intelligence to finances towards the then Cold war era of Zia to the now present military rule of Musharraf. How to control the Jihadist monster created during those 11 years by CIA, ISI and Saudi Intelligence is anyone???s guess.

I always say that Pakistan is the victim of its geography and just because we had an unstable Afghanistan on our northern borders, a hostile neighbor to our south and we were somehow caught between the cold war involving two super powers of the world, the status quo probably was inevitable.

Rehan Abid
Toronto, Canada

I have read the whole article and I do not agree with the contents. There is a lot of difference between the writers who write articles based on ground realities and those who narrate their stories while sitting accross the border. I am not at all impressed by the presentation of the cover story.

While sitting in Pakistan and reading this storey, I think that writers do not now the ground realities. Let us put our fingers cross and wait until such time when stories in NEEWSWEEK are published with actual facts and figures.

Shame on Pakistan.

Pakistan was created based on religion. Jinna, the founding father had a dream that one day Muslim in Pakistan would be envy for rest of the world to follow their steps especially as peace loving people, caring for humanity, and rich in culture, science, economy, and education. But shame on Pakistan, on the contrary people comes from other parts of the world to learn how to perform successfully mass killing innocent people. Do you need more statistical data such as ???135 innocent people killed in bomb blast in a procession, ???100 killed red mosque fight??? etc, etc to write an article like this? Wake up people of Pakistan. You can not get respect of others by force, or words only. People of Pakistan need to show rest of world that Muslims really care for peace and love by living peacefully. Did you see the facial expression of an angry religious student in the cover page of News Week for which we are making such noise? If you did not, please see the cover page. Do you think picture lies? Both Pakistan and India were born from same mother ???Indian subcontinent??? as a twin, one day difference of birth date and see the growth after 60 years. One is respected by the rest of world for economic threat in business world and the other is hated for inventing mass killing technique for terrorism. Am I wrong in evaluating two sons of same mother Pakistan and India after almost 60 years of their birth?

NEWSWEEK, Pakistanis are demanding APOLOGY, APOLOGY, APOLOGY!!!

This article is not about the freedom of the Press...This article is about LIBEL, LIBEL, LIBEL....against the 160 million people of Pakistan.

We don't accept this crap.

Its time that political forces get together to end undemocratic era in Pakistan. However, with certain elements playing negative role, there does not seem a positive outcome in the near future. Terrorists exploiting young recruits emotional feeling are using them to kill innocent people to satisfy their phenatic beliefs which have no room in enlightened religion of Islam. It is true that present security network has totally failed to arrest suicidal killing hence a strong political force is needed to educate people.
Javid A. Farooqi,

Posted By: karaswart @ 10/26/2007 11:19:57 AM
Comment: Monisa: Artificial creations, especially those created as ' homelands' for religious groups ( the worst of all reasons) will naturally implode. Pakistan, ironically, is like a radioactive isoptope with a half life of 40 years. 1971- split into halves. It is about time the next split occurs.. As I say to my Pakistani friends- let bygones be bygones- follow the example of Jinnah's daughter and come back to India. You have been misled too long by Arabs.



Pakistan will only implode after a nuclear weapon is deployed on this person's beloved country, India which in itself was formed as a seperate homeland for followers of a paganistic religion... and Pakistan shall certainly remain till such time a nuclear warhead is hurled into this person's tushy. Not before that. Thank GOD!

The fact remains that this article is only propounding a nuclear war in South Asia. The fact remains the Hindus in India will always remain disgruntled because a Muslim minority ruled over the Hindu majority for more than 2 centuries in the subcontinent before the British and that happened under the Mughals. This very fact is quite unpalatable to the Hindu extremists in India. This becomes patently clear when mosques are burnt down in India, when there is mass murder of the Muslims in Gujrat by Hindu extremists, backed by a Hindu nationalist party and this has become quite apparent in an investigative report shown around the world two days ago. .

So to all those snooty Indians concerned about Pakistan, I would simply suggest that you not meddle in Pakistan's affairs. One doesn't want to give rise to a nuclear war in South Asia where every thing can turn to dust in 30 minutes. And then you can tout your booming economy in your dreams!!

And the remember, the Christian right in America can come after the Hindus next on the pretext of it not being monotheistic relegion and this current back stabbing will come back to hit you in the future.

Posted By: karaswart @ 10/26/2007 11:19:57 AM
Comment: Monisa: Artificial creations, especially those created as ' homelands' for religious groups ( the worst of all reasons) will naturally implode. Pakistan, ironically, is like a radioactive isoptope with a half life of 40 years. 1971- split into halves. It is about time the next split occurs.. As I say to my Pakistani friends- let bygones be bygones- follow the example of Jinnah's daughter and come back to India. You have been misled too long by Arabs.



Pakistan will only implode after a nuclear weapon is deployed on this person's beloved country, India which in itself was formed as a seperate homeland for followers of a paganistic religion... and Pakistan shall certainly remain till such time a nuclear warhead is hurled into this person's tushy. Not before that. Thank GOD!

The fact remains that this article is only propounding a nuclear war in South Asia. The fact remains the Hindus in India will always remain disgruntled because a Muslim minority ruled over the Hindu majority for more than 2 centuries in the subcontinent before the British and that happened under the Mughals. This very fact is quite unpalatable to the Hindu extremists in India. This becomes patently clear when mosques are burnt down in India, when there is mass murder of the Muslims in Gujrat by Hindu extremists, backed by a Hindu nationalist party and this has become quite apparent in an investigative report shown around the world two days ago. .

So to all those snooty Indians concerned about Pakistan, I would simply suggest that you not meddle in Pakistan's affairs. One doesn't want to give rise to a nuclear war in South Asia where every thing can turn to dust in 30 minutes. And then you can tout your booming economy in your dreams!!

And the remember, the Christian right in America can come after the Hindus next on the pretext of it not being monotheistic relegion and this current back stabbing will come back to hit you in the future.

Hello Indians;
Karaswart I am not surprised at the comments you are passing on this site. It clearly deflects your old hindu mentality which Hindu have successfully hide behind name of India. Here is something for your questions you are raising.
When I am saying Indian; I am addressing to Hindus only. Even after 60 years of liberation, hindu mentallity is that they dont accept this reality that Pakistan is formed. Pakistan was made for Muslims. It was made by consesus of all the provinces; Bangal, Punjab; Sindh, Balochistan; NWFP due to hindu brutalities. Bangal is saprate from us but geographically keeping Hindustan between East and West Pakistan, this division was natural. But you should be thankfull to muslims that they made Hindustan by collecting its pieces from different Rajas and Maharajas. Muslim gave you a civilized way of living when you used to burn your daughters alive and were divided in Khushtris, Shudur and used to hate lower classes; a true racist society. Muslims teach you lessons of equality; which unfortunately you havnt learnt so far. Take a moment to think why Pakistan was made; ask your fore-fathers; Think about Gujrat event. Read about Shudi and Shungtan movements and find a similarity in WHP. Think about what are you doing in Kashmir. There is plenty to learn for you before you talk about challenges which Pakistan is facing since its birth. If Jinnah daugter went to Hindustan; dont forget that millions like my parents had left Hindustan forever. Will prefer to die instead of going back. Hope you understand it is not an artificial creation.
Abid

Don't worry USA won't be attacking Pakistan anytime soon. Iran is next if anyone and probably not them as USA is overextended as it is. As far as i can tell the article tries to point out that Taliban and Al Qaeda are pretty comfortable in Pakistan, not that Pakistan has not tried to do anything to stop them, or to deny USA funding of Mujahadeen and ultimately Al Qaeda.