'This Is Not a Bluff'

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  • Posted By: jpd01 @ 10/23/2007 3:58:43 PM

    Response to bluestari: 1) Where in the 6th commandment are we forbidden to take only "innocent" life, and whose idea of of innocent are we to follow...yours? 2) So in your last sentence you support taking the lives of "innocent " people as long as their death(s) enable the "innocent" to live safely? But what if you've just killed those "innocent" people? How are their lives safer now that they're dead? HUH???????

  • Posted By: ihavrghts2 @ 10/23/2007 3:57:42 PM

    you are not listening to what he says. since when, if someone disagrees with your opinion,-it has to be wrong. there is more to the constitution than a couple of knee jerk reactions. most people want a moral copmass includded in our leaders. try to care about things than selfish motivation. you are the prejudicious ones

  • Posted By: Moderate Right @ 10/23/2007 3:55:35 PM

    One can only hope! I might actually consider voting Republican again.... someday. Conservative Christians, intolerance, and too much FAR right influence have ruined the Republican Party. It has lost ALL it's moderates (me) in the last seven years. Wake up GOP!

  • Posted By: hair @ 10/23/2007 3:53:45 PM

    I am all for a third party, a forth and fifth. A two-party system is shallow, deceiving, arrogant, self-serving and non-demogratic. But frankly, and sadly, I have by now given up on America. What I wish for is a president who leaves the world alone!!!

  • Posted By: elgiew @ 10/23/2007 3:53:40 PM

    Bob Jones called the LDS faith an "erroneous" religion during his endorsement of Mitt Romney. Land calls it non-Christian and says the Church can't win the argument that it is a Christian faith. The same tone was used for Catholics. As a member of the LDS faith, I don't want to be associated with such people. One of the tenets of the LDS faith is that "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." What I think is funny is that Land is afraid a Romney administration would be full of Mormons. The LDS church does not dictate the positions its members take in politics. If you want proof of this, just look at Harry Reid (card carrying Mormon) vs. Orin Hatch vs. Mitt Romney. Can we say the same about a predominantly Evangelical cabinet?

  • Posted By: dmlattieri @ 10/23/2007 3:52:56 PM

    I have always felt we needed a third party. The Democrats and Republicans have their own agenda and could care less about the people. I have been a registered republican for decades and now I changed my party affiliation to Independent. I won't vote just for party loyalty any longer. I vote for those who have my interests in mind.

  • Posted By: Tdurham @ 10/23/2007 3:52:26 PM

    Richard Land is correct. I switched parties just so I could help elect George W. Bush. The Republican Party is not giving us what we asked for in the last election. Why should we settle with voting the lesser of two evils. We want a pro-life candidate!

  • Posted By: leodelaney @ 10/23/2007 3:00:44 PM

    I really think they should go. After all they are still living in the 13th Century, are at odds with all the freedoms, honor, ethics and rights of man that the United States has been espousing all these years. They represent all that can be wrong with religion with their narrow minded hatreds and demands that everyone live as they live. By letting them form their own party they can be kept off to the side where they belong and preact to and at each other and not bother real Americans who love their Constitution and what their country stands for. They will also find out how really small and insignificant they are in the scheme of things. I find the prospect of them being isolated within their own narrow minded world very inviting and very beneficial to the United States. With their own party their cancer can be confined and will not spread to infecting the rest of us who can then pursue their own values for the growth of our nation.

    • Posted By: dumbledorepillowbiter @ 10/23/2007 3:14:42 PM

      That's amazing! I wonder what your country stands for. let's see. Hmmm...violence and killing in schools, partial birth abortions where they half way birth a baby and then stick a needle in their skulls and scramble their brains. Drug use, prostitution, gang violence, kids graduating without being able to read, contraceptives in middle schools. We might as well let the government raise our kids because they sure won't let us do it.
      Yeah let's look at how you liberal kooks have made this such a great country of "do what feels good and screw anyone who gets in your way" philosophy.

      • Posted By: leodelaney @ 10/23/2007 3:51:50 PM

        Actually my country is guilty in some degree of all those things that seem to trouble you so much. It is because my country, and every other country, is made up of people with all the faults inherent in the human race and which have existed for all time and will exist for all time. Your country I assume would be able to totally reverse those faults and put in their place total submission to those values you and your kind fell are the only values which should be allowed to the humand race. Don't you think God would have already done that if he actually existed and that was what he believed the values should be. After all only a malevolent God would allow these things to exist if they are as bad and as threatening to his children as you would have us believe. In truth, if their is a God, he is malevolent, because were he not he would never have given us religion to blight all our days and destroy our lives and the happiness of the planet we live on. The United States possesses all these things you find so terrible, and indeed they are, but it also possesses the things which are great and uplifting in Man and possesses these to a far greater degree than the base things. The United States has done well in providing for our people and for giving the world something to admire, and while we have not done it perfectly, we have done it far better than if we were in the grasp of the narrow minded, hate filled, jack booted thugs of the religious right. In fact I believe you should thank us for our faults; they give you a fountain of goodies for indulging your prejudices and without them you would be little more than "The voice of one crying in the wilderness... "

  • Posted By: ronnyb @ 10/23/2007 3:49:03 PM

    So would Mr. Land also insist that someone such as Gov. Huckabee make a speech where he declares that he is "...not the candidate of the evangelicals, but a candidate who happens to be an Evangelical..." If not, then the whole movement has no credibility with me. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, but as someone who is not Christian, what is my assurance that any candidate Mr. Land supports will not run over my beliefs, so long as they are moral and do not violate any laws. This is a grave concern.

  • Posted By: peace and love @ 10/23/2007 3:47:23 PM

    I too have had it with all this Christianity. They dont care if religion is in The White House as LONG AS IT'S THEIRS.

  • Posted By: atruemoderate @ 10/23/2007 3:46:14 PM

    I love these 'Christians' and their 'truth' that they quote from the Bible. It's a circular argument: the Bible tells them it is the truth so the truth must be in the Bible. Why? Because the Bible tells them so, therefore, the Bible is true. How do they know? It says so, right there in the Bible so everything the Bible says is true . . . yada, yada, yada.

    Look, there are some really great things said in the Bible about how to treat other people, other cultures and the earth. But, if you would actually study the history of the Bible, you'd know that there is lots of things in there that are 'for illustrative purposes, only'. There is some Biblical history that tracks with real history but there is also some that does not. Like all religious texts, it is a bit self serving and has been heavily edited over the course of history.

    America WAS NOT founded as a Christian nation. Period. There is NO argument possible. Many of the founding fathers were Christian but some were not. They used much more than their religious beliefs to draft our Constitution; things such as ancient Greek legal philosophy, and other historical examples of humanitarian based legal systems and philosophies in addition to their Christian beliefs. One thing that is really telling is that they were, excepting for John Adams, passionately adamant about keeping religion OUT of government because of the persecution they saw and knew had happened throughout history when a government is based on any single religious belief.

    "Religious belief" . . . the very term defines itself, it is a belief unprovable by facts. Does that mean it's wrong? No, it just means that it can not be proven. Well, if it isn't wrong, then it must be right. Correct? No, that is faulty logic, it just means that it can not be proven to be either right or wrong. The world just isn't black and white, rather it's a little messy.

    Roe v. Wade? First off, let's look at what the opinion actually says: the state has no rights over the disposition of the fetus in the first trimester, the state has limited rights in the second trimester and the state can control the fate of the fetus in the third trimester. That's it folks. Too many people on both sides extort it way beyond this and base their opinion on faulty knowledge. I'm in total agreement with RvW AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN. I do not like abortion and hope that someone will chose not to have it, but I also respect the right and understand that there are times when it is just better to terminate. If all of you Anti-choice (NOT pro-life! that's a misnomer if I ever saw one) would direct you efforts toward prevention through all available methods, not just abstinence, and help when someone has an unwanted baby, the whole thing would become a non-issue and abortions would go down. No, abstinence only programs do not work, it has just been shown that abstinence only programs have absolutely NO effect in lowering unintended pregnancy rates.

  • Posted By: USMC0351Grunt @ 10/23/2007 3:40:00 PM

    Ok, so WHEN are we going to drop all of this two-faced shuffling, create a third party and drop all of the status-quo rhetoric that has held this country at bay like a kidnapper at a police stand-off? We have been votinf for the "lesser of two evils" for well over 40 years now and it hasn't gotten us anywhere but closer to the bottom of the pile in regards to popularity with other countries, which by the way shouldn't make ANY difference. We have lost focus of MAINTAINING THIS NATION. It's time to grow-up and focus on HOME, here, the United States. THIS is WHY we vote and put people into office. To be concerned with and run THIS nation, not somebody else's. HERE, America, HOME, OUR COUNTRY! Remember "Our Country? It's time to remove our noses out of everybody else's backyards and focus on REBUILDING the industrialized nation that we once had. I seriously don't think that we can last another generation based on Dot Coms, out-sourcing and made-up-wordsmithing/psycho-babble. FUNDAMENTAL! Now let's get serious!
    Does EVERYBODY feel they MUST aquire an ego on steroids and all the media attention they can get in order to move forward on fundamental planks?

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 10/23/2007 3:45:59 PM

      Marines know what's needed and blood is not it but border to border, coast to coast the old Democrat core USA ONLY not rule the world as the GOP would love to accomplish.

  • Posted By: YESMAR1965 @ 10/23/2007 2:57:59 PM

    I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY WE EVERYONE CHRISTIAN IN AMERICA DOESNT STAND UP FOR MIKE HUCKABEE ??? WHATS WRONG WITH YOU , HE IS THE ONLY CHOICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: leodelaney @ 10/23/2007 3:07:34 PM

      Mike Huckabee is exactly like the movement he represents. Sitting off somewhere on the fringe of reality and babbling about how things would and should be in his little world, rather than how things are and will be in the actual world of the United States and the Earth today. His kind have and will always, always be unable to get a real platform and real support because their positions are at odds with the actuality of life.

      • Posted By: Hodgiemoto @ 10/23/2007 3:43:59 PM

        He might have been the right candidate in the year of your username. 1965 but not today. Different world

  • Posted By: ronnyb @ 10/23/2007 3:43:42 PM

    NO, we don't need a leader that "...will represent the values of Christianity." We need a leader that represents the values of a free, open, American society

  • Posted By: pillpusher42 @ 10/23/2007 3:33:55 PM

    I can't or begin to fathom Clinton's in White House after the last time , when Clinton stripped the military to bare bones, families of military were treated like second class citizens. I resigned my county level position in veteran affairs due to actions of then "Commander in chief". No, this might just start the 3rd party in America, if Clinton's come in. Pillpusher 42 from Indiana

    • Posted By: gospursgo123456 @ 10/23/2007 3:39:22 PM

      Just like the current bush administration's policy that is also stripping the military's resources...If I do remember correctly, didn't the current bush administration NOT give financial support for retro-fitting the Humvees in Iraq, and wasn't the current bush administration also NOT equipping our soldiers with the best bullet proff jackets? I can't harldy wait for President Hillary R. Clinton to fix the problems of the current incompentent administration...

      • Posted By: jdhunter515 @ 10/23/2007 3:43:25 PM

        Well i seen they had tried but the people who control the actual money told the bush people No. So we can thank the accountants on that one.

  • Posted By: willtyndal @ 10/23/2007 3:31:09 PM

    Mike Huckabee supports a modified flat tax. He has publicly stated that this will level the playing field for all. The IRS will no longer be needed to squelch some speech, while others are left alone!

    • Posted By: jdhunter515 @ 10/23/2007 3:42:18 PM

      He is a politician saying is just saying. As long as he keeps it long winded and all around the subject and not straight forward he is acting like every politician before him and probably after him.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 10/23/2007 3:39:17 PM


    why Mike? John Edwards is also a real compassionate person inside to and closer to Christian than any Bush family

  • Posted By: okoboji @ 10/23/2007 3:05:17 PM

    First of all Bush is not a Republican. Sure, his title says that he is, but he acts more like a Democrat than a Republican. Anyone who would not vote for a Republican because of Bush is just a Democrat looking for a reason to justify voting for a Democrat that will further the destcruction of American values. The way I look at it is that there are no good Democrat canidates and the same goes for the Republicans with the exception of Mike Huckabee. The only problem is that Huckabee doesn't have enough money to buy the most voters. However it is a good sign to see him do well even though he spends little money. Makes you wonder why. I think all Americans are getting sick of the business as usual politician and both parties will pay for that. The Republicans already have and I think that will continue. If the Republicans don't choose Huckabee than I think he should run for a third party. Democrats and Republicans are tired of the lip service and need someone who will actually follow through with what they say. SO far Huckabee is the best person.

    • Posted By: Just my 2 cents @ 10/23/2007 3:39:05 PM

      Hey! You own Bush and you must claim him as well. You can't push your trash on to me. Last time i checked, it was you the Republican "GOD ole Party " that selected him into office.

  • Posted By: jmreyesiii @ 10/23/2007 3:13:09 PM

    To all who think Christianity encourages hatred why is it that the majority of those types of comments sound so hate-filled? Is hatred a qualification for becoming an atheist or a Liberal? Do you really have to resort to insults and name calling? That's what I'm teaching my kids NOT to do.

    • Posted By: Sepulcherdragon @ 10/23/2007 3:38:49 PM

      Is that anything like saying if you aren't a Christian you will burn in hell, that if you don't support the war you support terrorism? Or as one of the previous Christian posters said that if your not Christian your gay? That if you don't follow a Chrisitian religion then you are amoral? I think both sides show there imaturity a lot the sad part is when those who claim to follow the teachings of Jesus (who loved all and preached tollerance) don't seem to follow much of his teachings.

  • Posted By: TrustIAm @ 10/23/2007 3:38:42 PM

    Amen to JessE75... we need to look for the BEST LEADER. I think we know what we don't want... the example of what we've had to live with for the past 2 elections. Compromising and working together is a strong ingredient in pulling us out of the muck n' mire that the present administration has put us in. I really don't see anyone as a promising presidential candidate...expect maybe Ron Paul, and only time will tell!something thoug

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