'This Is Not a Bluff'

A comment on mormonism. Actually the majority of the Christian religions (Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopalian, etc.) no long recognize the Mormon church as a Christian organization but as a cult.

freethinker101: I hope to stand next to you on Judgement Day. You have no idea what you are talking about, you just spout hateful speach from your own ignorance. Take the time to learn something about the people you are referring to before you post such ignorant blather. The founding fathers were Christian and this country was founded on Christian principles while allowing others to practice what they believe. If you cannot accept that I would personally like to encourage you to abandon the USA. The country will be stronger without your ignorance polluting it.

As a liberal democrat I am very much in favor of a conservative christian third party. There could be no greater boon to my party's prospects. It's about time the religious right picked up their toys and went home. It is obvious that they are not willing to be part of a community that allows intellectual discourse, compromise or tolerance of differing viewpoints whatsoever. I hope their "my way or the highway" rigidity may finally be addressed. The American people as a whole will choose "the highway"; pack your bags and go. If you won't associate with people who don't follow your every directive, perhaps you should stay inside the confines of your exclusive clubhouse. It's high time our politicians quit pandering to the immature and ignorant minority simply because they scream the loudest. When a child screams "I want!! I want!!" and you give it what it desires in order to just make it shut up, you are encouraging more of the same in the future. Time for us to say NO.

Christianity is not evil. Don't view christianity based on misguided people who have killed abortionists. Look at Jesus Christ, who was nothing but love. How in your right mind, might I ask, can you say that "Religious people have got us into a war,"? If the Clinton administration had did something about terrorism in the first place, ie. the first attack on the WTC or did something other than slap Hussein on the wrist when he violated the agreement of the treaty and no longer allowed our weapon's inspectors in his country. And even if you are going to try and have the argument that Bush and his cronies joined the war for their personal gain, the fact remains that we needed to get in that country and make sure that there were no weopons of mass destruction. WAKE UP! These are the times we live in. We can not control terrorists. They are not going to stop no matter what and that has nothing to do with christianity. We are not trying to infringe on all of you. We have rights also though. God gave you free will, and we don't want to take that away from you. But it is our belief deep within our souls that there is a heaven and a hell and that each person will one day have to answer to God for their actions. So therefore we cannot go against our beliefs and compromise our faith and not try to reach out to the world with the truth. I am sorry that you see us as evil. We are human and make mistakes, we are nothing but sinners saved by grace.

I consider myself to be a Christian, and I applaud anyone who lives, and acts upon their beliefs. BUT, I cannot support ANY candidate who would try to FORCE THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS upon others. Any candidate who would seek to establish laws, or bend current laws in a way which would force others to abide by their own religious beliefs has no business in our government. If one were to take a step back from the question at hand, and look around the world at other governments which take an active role in promoting one certain religious belief, one can see numerous examples of why this type of government has no place in our country. We are involved in a religious civil war in Iraq, in which several different factions of the Muslim religion believe that 'THEIR' particular beliefs should be followed by everyone in the country, and they strive to enact, and enforce laws that would punish anyone who does not believe as they do. More people have been killed throughout history over religious beliefs, and reasons than any other reason. In Iraq, their religious beliefs are more dear to them, than anything that freedom, or democracy has to offer. In fact, the freedoms that we enjoy in this country, are in direct opposition to what their religious beliefs tell them about how they should live their lives. Religious beliefs, and democratic government, HAVE to be found, discovered, or taken into one's heart by choice, and not be force. Only by seeking it themselves, can it mean enough, and impassion them enough to fight for it, themselves. Our govenrment has taken us into this war under false pretenses, and accusations, and we now find ourselves at a loss on how to get out of it, without leaving it worse than it is now. In my opinion, Iran is being pushed into developing nuclear weapons out of the fear that this country may choose to invade, or attack it without provocation, as we did in Iraq, and they know that our military power can easily defeat them, using conventional means. To them, the only thing that they feel can protect them from this happening, is to threaten the use of nuclear weapons should that happen. And why should they feel otherwise about being attacked? We have already shown them that we will do it, even if OUR intelligence is flawed, or wrong. Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom to turn their backs upon centuries old rellgious beliefs is not something that they want their country to embrace. And neither do the people of this country. I don't mind a president that prays to God, asking for direction, but I DO NOT want a president trying to force his particular beliefs upon me, and my family, all in God's Name. And that includes appointing strict constructionist judges to enforce their beliefs upon us all.

I wonder how many 'pro-life' evangelicals who voted for Bush on the abortion non-issue realize how many innocent people died as a result of their actions? Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians, thousands of Americans. Maybe someday these voters will realize that they have been swallowing a baited hook every presidential election by people who cast out the abortion issue and then do absolutely nothing about it after they get into office.

It's amazing all the posts saying Christians should stay out of politics, and that this isn't a Christian nation. It is obvious that these posters have never read the original 13 colonies state constitution's. All but a couple of states made it clear, that if you weren't Christian, you had no right serving in the government. This mindset helped form our Constitution. A Constitution designed and built, using Christian principles. We as a nation need to learn how to read, and think, without whole heartily swallowing the garbage that both liberals and conservatives try to feed us. This country was founded on Christian principles. Why is it so important to rewrite history? Thomas Jefferson is credited with the term "separation of church and state", yet this man allowed, and participated in church services in the Capitol Building the entire eight years of his presidency. Why don't we read about this? Because we are too busy rewritting history, to meet our current desires and fulfil our current lusts. We shall be accountable to no one, for we are the masters of our destiny.

...the Party of the Lunatic Fringe...you go, guys!

"I cannot vote for someone who believes that it's all right to stop a beating heart."

Interesting quote given that these people support the war and the death penalty.