With new unilateral U.S. sanctions announced Thursday, America and Iran may now be headed for unavoidable hostilities.
Comment: Mr Muslem Our wildwest Mulla natzi Muslem they did show us in 30 years in Iran your real islam.they are killing our young people ,hang them in street every day. this is your real Islam.you may tell the others your nice story but not Iranian .wait very soon we as Iranian will put this Islam and the Mulla together in WC and FLASH it . you can be muslem it is ok with me but if you talk about nice islam think about IRAN
Comment: Posted By: wildwest @ 11/08/2007 5:23:54 PM
Comment: I am a Muslim and what you say about Islam and Muslims is so misleading and decieving. Can you show me some reference for those claims against Islam. And please don't give me Pat Robertsona and other Islamophobics as reference. thank you
Mr Muslim what are you doing in Wildwest come to Iran ,we will show you Our wildwest Mulla natzi killer ,do not worry about Pat Robertsona we wii show you killer Ali Khomenei.do you want to know ?
Comment: international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!
Comment: Dear bd1stimpression
Thank you very much for your comment. I see it as a very important step for peace. And I am asking myself why so many people are talking about war like if it is a game.
I am asking why so many people want to be hidden behind weapons and if this is maybe another way to be hidden behind themselves because they are afraid from themselves and that is maybe why they need ever enemies and wars? Very interesting is that most of them push religious ideas behind!
Thanks again.
Comment: international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!
Comment: international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!
Comment: international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!
Comment: The Middle East is much more complicated than many in the US can imagine. The US administration and media always see the Middle East from one side only, that is the Israeli side. To make better US policies in this region someone should understand the people here, I grew up in the US and now i live in the Middle East where i started to understand the people better, and they definately do not resemble what we read about. People over here have diffirent agendas, they dont see just material interest, they have other issues in mind. Attacking Iran is catasrophic. The vast majority of the Middle East Oil is only across from the Persion Gulf few miles from Iran, stretching from Iraq to east Saudi Arabia to the smaller Gulf Countries. The moment the US hits Iran, thousands of rokets if not 10s or 100s of thousands will fall allover the area where trillions of dollars are invested in rich oil countries by many US companies, the Gulf is shut down, barrel of oil hits unrealistic records, no more oil flowing through to any one, big investements are bombarded. In Iraq so many US troops could be killed and or kidnapped. God knows how long this war can last. The recent war in Lebanon proved that technology cannot alone win wars, you need soldiers who should do it on the ground, the US soldier cannot face ready to die Iranian soldiers on the ground. Air attacks cannot win wars it can only destroy and kill, then what. Do we really think that iran will surrender just like that? we should be very naiive to think so. This war will definately spread, Syria Hizbolah vs Israel, the Arab people might overthrough some US Puppet leaders, God knows how bad this could get. The Middle East is a very volatile area. Europe and the US will be the bigest loosers for sure, Israel will be next in line. Launching this war is like going through a Mine Field. I think all what Bush thinks about is to be Mr. Macho man, he wants to gain popularity before he leaves office its all about legacy, but at what price. A very heavy price and for sure no legacy here, just ask the military people and they can tell you.
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Comment: If you did'nt tell us you live in the Middle-East I could have guessed it. Oh everything is soooo complicated over there and we dumb americans can not possibly figure out the complexities of the region. Well let me try,the arabs are the good guys and the zionists are the bad guys...close enough.Well let me tell you a little something about modern warfare Yazeyn. First we can pound a country like Iran into submission we cuold drop so many bombs exactly where we want and we could do it without risking a single life. Her's how my friend we put a smart bomb on an unmanned plane fly it by computer (my computer if you like) right into Tehran and I could drop it from the comfort of my living room. So it's you who does'nt understand imagine, we sell americans a chance to fight in a Middle-Eastern war and never leave home.Game Over.
Comment: The president of Iran has just admitted to his country having three thousand centrifuges. That is plenty to produce enough plutonium for nuclear weapons. Now why would he admit to that? I think he wants to force some kind of reaction from the U.S. and the west. Is he insane or is he crazy like a fox? Any action surely would be detrimental to thier economy so why would he try to force our hand? Maybe he's bluffing? Should Bush call his bluff? That depends on the stakes. Let me see an increase in the price of oil is a definate outcome. A disruption in the flow of oil most certainly. How about this forget about the oil equasion for a minute and imagine an all out attack by air on all known targets. They would try to defend thier airspace and we would target thier radar and missile defences after that all thier jet fighters, communications and command centers. They would lose the war one day after it started and we would not have to go in there and try to occupy the country because there would be nothing left to occupy. Thier entire oil industry was built by the U.S. and other western nations. They have only western technology. So call his bluff then raise him all out war and then we see what he's after.
Comment: "Just admitted?" this has been a public news for a long time. Iran has the right under the charters of International Atomic Agency to have centrifuges and enrich Euranium. Energy enriched Euranium is enriched about 3-5 % for nuclear bomb you need to enrich it to 93-95 %. I am not sure what is th ebig fuss. Iran is doing what it is her right under the Atomic Agency's charter. And of course there goes the rest of your argument.
Comment: Are the leaders of Iran misleading or misrepresenting its rank and file? Would Iran's rank and file quality of life benefit from nuke power for peaceful purposes? Are we killing and dying in iraq because our leaders mislead and misrepresented us? When national leaders make life and death decisions, are these decisions guided by what is best for their country's rank and file, or are their decisions guided by what's best for the small ruling class group to which they belong? Niether Islam nor Christianity support propagation by the sword/bomb. Nevertheless, when either believes that they are threatened by the other, they shall defend. Are the Iranian people threatening the American people, and are the American people threatening the Iranian people? If not, both country's leaders must make that plain to their rank and file.
Comment: I am a 35 y/o mairried man, your average citizen who lives in rual Oklahoma and I can't see why the people of this country can't see the truth of things. Iran is an Islamic state and diplomacy rarely works with a country like them. Islam, the muslim religion teaches to destroy all who are non-believers those who do not practie their religion. and the people of this country who believe that if we let them do what they want and they will just leave us alone have a rude wake-up call in store for them. If left alone the have and will again attack us but in a much more deadly way than 9/11. as for you left wing liberals think back 20 years or more if your old enough... did you hear the disrespect for our country or our president that you all spout out as if you were talking about some communist country or leader, people HAVE SOME RESPECT!!! I couldn't stand Pres. Bill Clinton but when i spoke his name I said President Clinton not old bill or stupid a__ Clinton the least you could do is show that you support our Gov. even if you don't agree whith it's dicisions, we are Americans and we should act like it more often.
Comment: I am a Muslim and what you say about Islam and Muslims is so misleading and decieving. Can you show me some reference for those claims against Islam. And please don't give me Pat Robertsona and other Islamophobics as reference. thank you
Comment: The constitution makes the president "Commander and Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States".
It gives the Congress the power to "declare War", "raise and support Armies","provide and maintain a Navy" and "provide for calling forth the Militia to ... suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions" . Since the president and vice president have chosen to parse the words of the Constitution,to give the president broad powers to initiate and conduct a war, the Congress and state legislatures should act now to prevent the president from unilaterlally pulling us into another war -- with Iran. If the Congress is so deadlocked that it can't act, then the state legislatures should act to protect their citizens by enacting laws that prevent the national guard from being called up for national service in Iran except in case of explicit authorizing act by Congress. Also the legislatures should prevent Draft boards from being convened except by explicit authorization by Congress.. If the states do not act now to let the president and Congress know that they are willing to exert their power in the face of Congressional paralysis and executive aggression, then soon it will be too late and the people will be committed to a war they do not support.
Comment: So, in the US a "hardliner" is anyone who opposes an antiwestern regime?
Iran denys arming militias that are destabilizing Lebanon and Iraq while the facts show otherwise and you, Mr Hirsh, call that an accusation as if it were made up by this administration. Seems to me a whole lot of Iranian arms were used to attack Israel.
I wonder what purpose you might fill in the Umma Mr Hirsh?
Comment: Dear adirondack_1
I fully agree with you that Iran must stop arming militias that are destabilizing Lebanon. And it seems to me a whole lot of Iranian arms were used to attack Israel.
Do you agree with me that USA and Europe must intervene that Israel can respect and follow all UN-resolutions?
Do you agree with me that USA and Europe must stop arming Israel to attack Palestinians?
I hope you can consider Palestinians as a human who have rights and dignity too!!!
Comment: in 1979 stu jimmy carter came also MASHERIF with the same way talking of democracy and peace,look what we got now. Jimmy Cater help the Islamic Nazi come to power and EU (German NAZI) helped them until now to be on power.did Fu jimmy made any comment since 1979 about this Islamic nazi Iranian governmentnian ,NEVER. is it any Democracy in any Islamic countrey?we know are problem ,we can make our countrey.this is 30 year nobody care about us only they payrol.again we will change this FU.... ISLAMIC government with or without help of F... UN.or others.
Comment: Imagine the United States of America, the most powerful nation in the world, is being lead around by a bung of Israeli Zionist Thugs--We need a new administation and a new foreign policy, The Palestinians were deprived of their land and Israel to this day is continually expanding it's borders. It would be a noble thing for Israel to have it's charter revoked, Zionism labeled as the utmost terrorist organization, and once and for all the USA to end it's alliance with Israel.
Comment: Maybe it is the Palestinians who should change thier policy and accept that Israel is there to stay. Start by disarming all these militias and work on a peace plan that would guaranty Israel's security. Only then can you have real peace in the region. If the Palestinians want to keep up the violence fine they just should not cry to the world about how badly they are being treated. Oh it was just a few rockets we shot into Israel why oh why do they bomb us back .wahhhhh
Comment: Dear Steve,
I agree with you that the Palestinians were deprived of their land. I do not agree with you that Zionism the utmost terrorist organization. If you are really standing for Palestinians and human rigthts so do not mix things that way!!!
There is so much Zionists who are peacefull and who do not agree at all with Israels policy and it's occupation of palestinian Land.
Comment: It was the zionists who drove Palestinians out of their land and stole their lands. In fact the current Israeli defense forces IDF are the combination of three Jewish terrorist organization that originally wrught havok . They used to bomb Palestinians ' restaurants, shops and homes. Does it sound like the AlQaeda inIraq? Very much so. Those Jewish/zionist terrorist organizations were bombing Palestinians' shops and cafe long before Arafat was born. Go figure. So those zionists who are against the land theft and are against the Israeli barbaric conducts where are they? what are they doing? hjow are they showing their disapproval of that? Are those Jewish zionists or christian zionists?
Comment: Masherif this my last comment I am not going to spend my time more than this to ask you toread what I wrot.
I did not accusing you please read you 1th comment , you are the one accusing me .
I am Iranian and I will fight for change ,I never wanted war in Iran ,we had for 8 years ,where have you been on those 8 years? this 30 years Iranian killed by Mulla in the name of Fu... Islam.did anybody care? all others took everything we had away from us.they want to have our oil nobody care even you.did ever think how many Iranain killed in 30 years ? no you and the other like you only talk about Bush and Bush ,was Bush 30 years ago when the Mulla was killing the Iranian?
Comment: You said ???Masherif we as Iranian will free our Iran from one like you.??? And you are talking about NAZI!!!
You said ???I know you are not happy to see that because that oil money will not go to Terrorist.???
You said ???I know Masherif if Mulla out of Iran many of you will never get nice payroll.???
And I said ???I fully agree with you that the Mullah regime never deserve support and has to be changed. ... And an US attack will never bring you peace or democracy, if you are really Iranian, what I doubt now fully.??? Again I doubt if you are Iranian. All governments based on religious ideas, not only Islamic intend to be dogmatic and violent. Islamic countries and all others based on ideologies as radical orthodox and Christian fundamentalist like this one from Bush. And therefore I agree with you when you see that Islamic government is a great problem!
But you said too ???you and the other like you only talk about Bush and Bush ...???. Even this is not true! You may do not like that we talk also about him!!! Do not you?
Comment: There is more going on than is known. Let's face it, we need the time for technology to advance to replace oil. War has advanced technology the fastest. Think, if the oil were cut for the average US,EU or asiain, ect. we would be back to bicycles and man-U -L labor. Any of you out their who drive a car or use a mechine, think
Comment: Masherif If we change iran and get it out of the terorists Iranian government hand than we Iranian will not spend our OIL money for TERORIST , this isdifference now between the way we are thinking and the way Mullas think? I know you are not happy to see that because that oil money will not go to Terorist
Comment: First. I doubt if you are iranien. Secondely, when somebody like me fully agree with you that the Mulla regime never deserve support and has to be changed and you still accusing me that unconscionable and nonpeacefull way, so I must unfortunately doubt that you will ever be able to create a democratic Iran. Respect others is fundamental! But you are not able to discuss without accusing others don't fully share your ideas. This way of thinking can never be the way for someone who is searching for democracy and peace. As long as you have no respect for others, again there is no any difference now between the way you are thinking and the way Mullas, Bush and Bin Laden think. It is very clear now. And as long as you do not respect others exchanging their different ideas and stop accusing them you will never be credible and your way will never be peacefull and can never be civilized.
What I deeply hope, also for you that all Iranien can live in peace and democracy without this Mulla regime. An US attack will never bring you peace or democracy, if you are really iranien, what I doubt now fully.
Comment: An excellent book is, The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians," by Hoffman and Lieberman, available at Amazon--very informative.
Comment: OIL, OIL, OIL Reserves #1 Saudi Arabia #2 Canada #3 Iran #4 Iraq #5 Kuwait #6 United Arab Emirates. Peak production is over (2006). It is all downhill from here. No oil is no war machines. No protection. China imports over 50% of its used oil. The US over 70%. US consumes over four times the amount of oil than China. The EU consumes over two times the amount than China. China is growing by leaps and bounds and its machines are very hungry and will only get hungrier. Russia is self sustaining. Producing more oil than they use. They will be sitting back and watching the war. All reserves are at 1.3 trillion with 83 millon a day use. It's not going to last forever. People and governments want to be protected and if you have no oil to run your machines, you have no protection. The only alternative left with no machines is the ICBM's. God help us all. No matter how many lawsuits, Russia has made it's claim in the Arctic floor. He who controls the oil, does control the world. He who controls the water does control life as we know it. The Wakhan Corridor is much more than a way for Osama to get to Mongolia, it is a back door for China as well.
Comment: Masherif we as Iranian will free our Iran from one like you
Comment: Do you see any difference now between the way you are thinking and the way Mullas think? If you are really searching for freedom and liberty, why can not you let others exchange opinions? Do you feel credible?
Comment: Are you able to read Masherif ? I am Iranian in Iran. why can you take this Mulla and let them to be your government..I know Masherif if Mulla out of Iran many of you will never get nice payroll.
it is not only us ,we know better than you.it is all of you.
Comment: If you say that Iranian government is not terorist than in our view as Iranain you are on payroll of this government .can you look and see how many iranain killed pas few days in dand of terorist Mulla made by STU.....P.. Mr Jimmy and keep on power by N.... German
Comment: And you? You are on payroll of which government? When you wish to liberate iranien from the Mulla, I fully agree with you, but let iranien people do this. You do not need a second Iraq made by US governement.
Comment: so the Iranain government they are not terorists?only Israel, I am Iranian we know what our government (Mulla )are doing .you all in west wait and wait until Mulla comes kill you like they are killing us in Iran everyday.I am sorry for all you in west .this almost 30 years of talking crap .go back and look at history of terorist since 1979 when Mr president Jimmy help this Mulla the terorist come to power.and the EU kept them for 30 year .sorry for you all
Comment: Sebastian you are obviously a person who favors attacking Iran--I am sorry but I cannot support that course of action. The charter of the nation of Israel should be rvoked for it was brought about by the notorious Balfour Agrement--which pushed aside prior promises made by England to the Arabs--more Zionist Lobbying. Oh, excuse me, you see that as Anti-Semitic don't you--My friend I suggest you brush up on world history--a world hostory course that wsasn't written at the Yeshiva.
If any country should have sanctions it should be israel.. The Romans destroyed it in 70 AD, and it will happen again, and again, and again--there is a higher law here.
Comment: And PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE don't give me that Anti-Semitic CRAPPPPPPPPPPPP.
Comment: Not every Jew is a semite and not every semite is a Jew so what do you exactly mean by the term Anti-semetic?
Comment: Zionist are terorists.
Comment: Dear Steve and Sebastian STHLM! How could we be credible II?
When generalising and equating Zionism with terrorism this is without doubt Anti-Semitism. Historically it has Zionists who wanted to live with the Palestinians in peace, and others who did not wanted it at any price. That meant first expulsion of the Palestinians and then war and oppressive and scorning occupation. If Sebastian really condemned anti-Semitism, then ANTI- (in the sense of branding others) has to be logically condemned. Therefore, I doubt if the comment from Sebastian is credible!
Now, to Iran. In order to stay with present facts, please read my comment "How could we be credible?" And this "http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21516968"!
If I would follow your logic, then you give unnoticed Iran and other neighbours of Israel right. Israel has nuclear weapons and according to your logic, if you are living in an Arab country or Iran, Arabs must act now and attack Israel and take out their nuclear program. Today there is no other way. As you said!
When you talk about ???the Land of Israel???, I understand your thoughts so that you mean "The promised land" and therefore bringing the religious component as justify! If that is so, then I must disappoint you in the hope that you would think about following.
If God chooses people ???nation of Israel???, then he ???God??? is a racist! Want you say so? And if God promises a land to his chosen people where others live in it, then you are saying that this God know the price for it too. That means war, terror, miserable and expulsion! Why does not he says, live with others, share land and happiness with them. Mixed you and live in peace!!!
Has Bin Laden then right in your eyes? Because in my eyes you think/use same logic! That this God is violent and including terror in his concept! So God does not exist. Do you mean it so?
Comment: The Decider has NEVER been able to muster even the most basic pretense of Diplomacy, even tho his father was a master of it, as he proved when he assembled the coalition that ousted Iraq from Kuwait. But the son is an unprincipled fool, and will probably fall for the wildest, most nonsensical solution offered by his set of Flat-Earth advisors. This president is a reckless, foolish menace, and I just pray he will allow his sucessor to deal with Iran, and not unilaterally start another war based on lies like he did in Iraq. I still find it hard to believe that we are allowing this moron to remain in the highest office in our land!
Comment: Steve, US pays and sells more to arab countries than what they do to Israel. And, zionism means "a Jewish state in the Land of Israel". That is zionism. All normal people are zionists, and those who blame zionism are antisemites. USA must act now and attack Iran and take out their nuclear program. Today there is no other way.
Sebastian, Stockholm, Sweden
Comment: Steve, US pays and sells more to arab countries than what they do to Israel. And, zionism means "a Jewish state in the Land of Israel". That is zionism. All normal people are zionists, and those who blame zionism are antisemites. USA must act now and attack Iran and take out their nuclear program. Today there is no other way.
Sebastian, Stockholm, Sweden
Comment: Get the Zionist out of Washington--Israel should pay restitution to the Palestinians and the Usa for funnelling so much of uSA Taxpayers dollars into their own pockets. The USA should ends it's alliance with Israel.
Comment: Zionism is the foremost Terrorist Organization in the world. It is high time the United States ends its allaince with Israel. Who needs Israel, a dust hole of exaggerated self importance. A good book to read is, "The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians" by Hoffman and Lieberman available at Amazon.
Get the Zionist Lobby out of Washington, Greenspan, Wofowitz, Chertoff, Fleischer, etc.
Comment: Zionism is the first and foremost terrorist organization in the world.
Comment: Good article. I don't know of anyone who honestly feels that the US should move forward with any hurried military action. Ahmadinejad is a wacko and extremely unpredictable and even worse, had Putin on his side!
Tomfortruth: please elaborate on your comments.... Much of your response is so vague and filled with stereotypical hate, that it makes no sense. The sentence with: "nuke em" does not agree at all with what the author has expressed. ???
Comment: Well, yeahbuddy, the import of my previous contribution was that the influential Zionist lobby has dictated American foreign policy in the Middle East for decades, not in America;s interest but in Israel's. Rather than impose a settlement on Israel/Palestine, the USA has supported the Zionists in their drive to fulfil Menachem Begin's vision of a Greater Israel, regardless of the cost in terms of death, destruction and misery. The USA has blocked any attempt by the UN to find a solution whilst condoning, indeed, supporting Israel's brutal and bloody oppression of the Palestinians. Now America is fighting a proxy war in Iraq on behalf of the Zionists who perceived Iraq's Scud missiles as a threat - only to Israel. Their target has shifted onto Iran (Syria next) as they lead gullible GW by the nose into another proxy confrontation.
The root cause of Islamic terrorism and most of the problems in the M.E.is the appalling injustice suffered by the Palestinians over the last 60 - yes 60- years! America, the self-professed bastion of freedom and democracy, is compliant in the brutal oppression of the Palestinians ..... and then, we get some comedian saying 'God bless America'!!
Rather than the total destruction of Iraq out of which will rise a fundamentalist Islamic Republic of Iraq, your troops along with the UN could have better served the World by imposing a State of Palestine whilst providing security for Israel. The latter is still an option.
Comment: How could we be credible?
Sorry for my English. I come from the old Europe, as Mr. Rumsfeld said!
Following on NBC, Oct. 28, 2007 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21516968/). "ElBaradei says he has no evidence Tehran is developing nuclear weapons. ... and expressed concern that escalating rhetoric from the U.S. could bring disaster. .. But have we seen Iran having the nuclear material that can readily be used into a weapon? No. Have we seen an active weaponization program? No. ... ElBaradei said he was worried about the growing rhetoric from the U.S., which he noted focused on Iran's alleged intentions to build a nuclear weapon rather than evidence the country was actively doing so. If there is actual evidence, ElBaradei said he would welcome seeing it. ... "
Can we still remember a congruent story like this? Covering same logic before the Iraq war? Have we forgotten it? Why politicians in power can spread the same lie for many times, and why we believe them again and again? Do we really want peace? Why then are we following them? If we are so confident that this is not true? Is something wrong with us? And our politicians know well, that with us something is wrong? That we need tension, need the war and the killing rituals? So they can manipulate us, at any time they need? Yes, nuclear weapons, and indeed all weapons are dangerous and show how violent we are and how many of us prefer violence as a way to dominate others! Even the American policy has fallen in love with this ritual of war several times. To dominate others or to bring them democracy? Interesting is that the same politicians and states in which these weapons are hoarded suddenly realize their dangers. Is something wrong here? While USA, Russia, France, Pakistan, India, Israel, and others developing and deploying actual nuclear weapons!!! Still nothing wrong here? If nuclear weapons are so dangerous for Mr. Bush, why he and the other nuclear powers don not give example and begin to destroy them? Why they are not willing to concentrate efforts to create a serious way for all countries to follow it? Do you think they want this? The reality says no, they do not want this! Why? What these weapons for a purpose have? Is it the deterrence? But what does this exactly mean, deterrence? Does this also mean extortion of all those who do not have these weapons? The law of the strongest? The barbarity, the modern barbarism? Yes, I would like to see that in Iran a democracy can prevail, in Iraq too. In Syria, but also in friendly countries such as Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the world! Yes, the regime in Iran has not deserved support. But which country has become its freedom as a gift (even USA itself)? Exactly so little by a dictation from the outside, through the USA or any other power! This is just a different type of domination, a hidden, under the pretext of democracy!
Comment: How could we be credible?
Sorry for my English. I come from the old Europe, as Mr. Rumsfeld said!
Following on NBC, Oct. 28, 2007 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21516968/). "ElBaradei says he has no evidence Tehran is developing nuclear weapons. ... and expressed concern that escalating rhetoric from the U.S. could bring disaster. .. But have we seen Iran having the nuclear material that can readily be used into a weapon? No. Have we seen an active weaponization program? No. ... ElBaradei said he was worried about the growing rhetoric from the U.S., which he noted focused on Iran's alleged intentions to build a nuclear weapon rather than evidence the country was actively doing so. If there is actual evidence, ElBaradei said he would welcome seeing it. ... "
Can we still remember a congruent story like this? Covering same logic before the Iraq war? Have we forgotten it? Why politicians in power can spread the same lie for many times, and why we believe them again and again? Do we really want peace? Why then are we following them? If we are so confident that this is not true? Is something wrong with us? And our politicians know well, that with us something is wrong? That we need tension, need the war and the killing rituals? So they can manipulate us, at any time they need? Yes, nuclear weapons, and indeed all weapons are dangerous and show how violent we are and how many of us prefer violence as a way to dominate others! Even the American policy has fallen in love with this ritual of war several times. To dominate others or to bring them democracy? Interesting is that the same politicians and states in which these weapons are hoarded suddenly realize their danger. Is something wrong here? While USA, Russia, France, Pakistan, India, Israel, and others developing and deploying actual nuclear weapons!!! Still nothing wrong here? If nuclear weapons are so dangerous for Mr. Bush, why he and the other nuclear powers don not give example and begin to destroy them? Why they are not willing to concentrate efforts to create a serious way for all countries to follow it? Do you think they want this? The reality says no, they do not want this! Why? What these weapons for a purpose have? Is it the deterrence? But what does this exactly mean, deterrence? Does this also mean extortion of all those who do not have these weapons? The law of the strongest? The barbarity, the modern barbarism? Yes, I would like to see that in Iran a democracy can prevail, in Iraq too. In Syria, but also in friendly countries such as Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the world! Yes, the regime in Iran has not deserved support. But which country has become its freedom as a gift (even USA itself)? Exactly so little by a dictation from the outside, through the USA or any other power! This is just a different type of domination, a hidden, under the pretext of democracy!
Comment: At last an american journalist is sensible. The point of view of the rest (nonamerican and bigger part) of the world is revealed. Of course the majority of american citizen would hate the article because it doesn't stick to the official propaganda.
Comment: At least there is one journalist in the US who sees the problem from a sensible point of view. In this article we are informed on the way the rest (nonamerican and bigger part) of the world considers US government's actions and remarks. Of course, the majority of the americans would hate this article for not sticking to the official line of propaganda.
Comment: God Bless American and all the real Americans who love this country. The rest of terrorist loving, marxist who want this country to be defeated can kiss our collective rear ends. Thnaks Mr. Bush for setting things in middle east. May God alwayse protect this country and protect its inhabitants.
Signed
Red, White and Blue
Comment: I hesitate to call you a misguided fool because your perspicacious contribution may have been a joke. You cannot see further than the end of your nose because there is a Zionist ring through it, dragging the USA to hell. Your foreign policy is under the control of a massively powerful Zionist lobby which could not care less about your beloved country. God bless America? Is there a God to bless the death and destruction wrought by the USA as ordered by the Zionists? Only Mars- the God of War! You think the Christian God will bless those redneck Christian fellow bigots of the cowboy President whose answer for everything is "nuke 'em". God help us all - to think that people like you have a right to vote.
Comment: Afype, Are you serious? What has Bush been "setting" in the Middle East? Endless war? This is the kind of scum that allowed a moron like Bush to run the country into the ground for another four years. Fantastic job, Red White and Blue!
Comment: sp_arabian - we obviously know what your bias and ulterior motive is in letting Iran get nuclear weapons. Are you stupid enough to believe that Iran won't attack Europe and America if we just let them go on with business as usual. We made that mistake already with your friend Hitler! Although I don't agree with nuking Iran, we need to do whatever it takes to disarm them. It's obvious from certain things in your post, and your name that your loyalty is not to America, which is why you have an ulterior motive behind your transparent comments. Insulting a soldier who has served our country for 24 years because of a few mispellings is unacceptable to Americans - not that you'd know that, or even care! You spell correctly, but are a weasel - so what does that prove?! If it weren't for fine American soldiers like roddog69, you wouldn't have the right to sit here and bad mouth America to benefit your real totalitarian homeland in the middle-east!
Hopefully a war can be avoided! But if war is inevitable, and we don' fight now, we'll have to fight later. And if we fight later, Iran will be stronger and have nuclear weapons - it will make for a much more costly (in lives) war! If a war were to break out, clearly you'd be going back home and fighting for Iran!
Comment: " . . . . with nuking Iran, we need to do whatever it takes to disarm them."
Err. . . .don't they need nukes first, before we can disarm them? Or, do you mean we should disarm them like we did Iraq and their nukes? Isn't that the reason the whole mess over there got started? If that's the case then I see your logic or lack thereof . . . Don't forget these tactics that are already heavily in use by the administration and Iraq is a clear example of this:
1) Create a problem or exaggerate an existing one that serves your purpose.
2) Present a made up solution
3) People will demand the solution to fix the problem (support is neccesary in a democracy)
The solution was the only thing that the government wanted in the first place.
See how this applies to Iraq?
1) the problem was Iraq had nukes and chemical weapons (lies)
2) War was presented by mr Bush as the only possible solution
3) people supported his war of terror . . . Iraq is taken over . . . .
Takeover of Iraq was the only thing Bush wanted in the first place. This already thoroughly established and cannot be argued against.
Now we know there must have been a real reason for the takeover, and there was. Saddam hated bush and desired to collapse the american economy which he likely would have because he had the power to do so. Just before Bush sent in his troops, the UN approved for Iraq to sell all its oil in euros (this in itself should be questioned) as opposed to USD. this would have likely collapsed the american dollar. Iran is now doing the same thing. War now is fought as much economically as it is militarily.
Think more . . . . . .
Comment: sp_arabian - we obviously know what your bias and ulterior motive is in letting Iran get nuclear weapons. Are you stupid enough to believe that Iran won't attack Europe and America if we just let them go on with business as usual. We made that mistake already with your friend Hitler! Although I don't agree with nuking Iran, we need to do whatever it takes to disarm them. It's obvious from certain things in your post, and your name that your loyalty is not to America, which is why you have an ulterior motive behind your transparent comments. Insulting a soldier who has served our country for 24 years because of a few mispellings is unacceptable to Americans - not that you'd know that, or even care! You spell correctly, but are a weasel - so what does that prove?! If it weren't for fine American soldiers like roddog69, you wouldn't have the right to sit here and bad mouth America to benefit your real totalitarian homeland in the middle-east!
Hopefully a war can be avoided! But if war is inevitable, and we don' fight now, we'll have to fight later. And if we fight later, Iran will be stronger and have nuclear weapons - it will make for a much more costly (in lives) war! If a war were to break out, clearly you'd be going back home and fighting for Iran!
Comment: The comment below is ignorant. Iran has sworn to fire 11,000 missiles at the first sign of hostility against the Iranian nation. Israel should be left to fend for its own, to keep us Americans out of another pointless, costly war.
Note: It is never ok to use a nuclear weapon on any country. That is a statement from a violent, evil, human being.
I also added he is in the military- that gives you no credit in some peoples books, you can't even spell. You might just be a loser who wasn't smart enough to get into college and wasnt ready enough to go into the real world so you joined a group that would for sure feed you, so long as your told what to do.
Some soilders are intelligent, brave, and god-fearing. This roddog69 who has what his name clames, the intelligence of a dog, is obviously not one of them.
Comment: "your", really.
Comment: let the U.S pop a tactical nuke about 100 mile from Tehran in the desert so noone gets hurt.The we sit back and go on as normal and lets see what happens. I bet that will make some heads turn.
I am in the military(24yrs) I do not want to go to war, but I am a Soldier. Iran must not never ever at ant timein the near or far future get their hans on a nuke. SOONER OR LATER IT WILL END UP HERE ON OUR
SHORES.
OR maybe the U.S should close our boarders and take care of the U.S.
Or we tell the PEOPLE OF IRAN if your country uses a nuke on anybody we will turn their country in to a parking lot. ( pardon my spelling ,no spell check)hoooooa
Comment: He wants to drop a nuke on Iran, but claims he doesn't want war . . . . somebody has some serious post traumatic stress disorder. You can't want two opposites at the same time. I believe they diagnose people like that as "crazy"
Comment: Let the U.S. pop a tactical nuke out in the desert about 100 mile from Tehran, make sure its not traceable to the U.S. Then we just go on bussinness as normal. Lets us then see what happens. I am in the military (24yrs) and I do not want to go to war. Iran must not get a nuke. If its time for me to go again, so be it
MSG B
Comment: Well, that would be something we would not do.
Comment: Who will be punished and what punishment will be given to the responsible for the war on false information. USA had carried out the war against Iraq on same type of information and killed thousand innocent. This is just matter of mis trust. Actually the storng or establish Iran is hardle to USA for obtain full benifits of oil in Iraq/
Comment: Iran, by proxy, is alreadyat war with us in Iraq. Take out the potential nukes and they will see that it is better to be at peace with us. As for the EU, they have it figured out I guess. What with 2 world wars and 40 million plus deaths that went along with it, I figure they are smarter and more cultured than we are. As for blackdragon,religious war? Put down the bong my friend, at least come up with something uniquely yours, Peace
Comment: disgusted: The 'miscalculations' out of Europe that you claim responsible for the two world wars were no miscalculations. There are people who reap massive wealth on wars and I'm not really talking about the 'Haliburtons'. Think much larger . . . most wars in the last 100 years have been planned for reasons that are basically unbelievable. Which is why their actions are safe, because even if the truth were exposed, no one would believe it. There are people so powerful in this world that it makes Bush look like a child in a sandbox, (well he does that well enough on his own, I suppose).
Comment: Iran is already fighting us by proxy in Iraq, therefore they are already in their minds at war with us, Take out the potential nukes and they will know what their nation needs is peace, with us. Forget the EU and others who say this is no threat, they have usually been behind in accurate assements of potential theats. OhEurope, thanks for the 2 world wars and millions of deaths that your miscalculations gave the world
Comment: George is definitly wanting to go out in flames. Is this what we get . a religious war?? I would hope this next election brings about some sensibility in our government. I thought Vietnam was the pits but George really wants to drag us through hell one more time.
Comment: God Bless America and president Bush. It was America who freed millions of people in Europe and around the world. Just imagine if there was no america. Wemon would in burca, blakcs would slaves to muslems, and all liberals would have had their heads chpped off for their their solcialsit beliefs. Are'nt you liberals happy to live in USA, protected by our brave men and women in our arm forces. I say go in Iran and Syria and clean out the trash and get rid of thees cut throats and murderers. 10 years form now, after USA frees the iranians and Syrians, there would be freedom and you see Mr. Bush's name on many monuments to freedom. God bless USA and Mr. Bush. The rest of the worlsd can kiss my rear..
Comment: I'll have to agree with afype. Long live racism!! just think! with enough killing of iranians ,iraqis, and syrians, we will all get along. We just don't have enough death and racism in this world to get the job done. who's with me and afype here? We'll start a new campaign "World Peace through killing and racism!" makes sense? right? right? The more we kill, the more everyone will respect us?
Comment: so sitting back and doing nothing is the answer even though the terrorist are not sitting back. Do you really think that once Iran is capable of building a nuclear devise they will not let it get into the hands of their terrorist friends.
Comment: Okay so we have afype, myself and havefaith77 to start our new "World peace by racism and killing" campaign. No, but seriously havefaith77, I'm glad you asked, because it allows me to point out some tactics being used. The administration is trying to assert that the ONLY way to deal with things is by war, war and more war, (and hatred). The premise is then created that if you don't agree with the war (no matter how illegal or for what reasons it started) that you must be siding with the terrorists (remember Bush's speech "I'm going to war, and if you're not with us than you're against us"). Which is a psychological tactic that as you can see, clearly works. How many anti war protesters have been automatically labelled as supporters of terrorism. The fact is, just because Bush wants a new war, disagreeing with that does not automatically make one a terrorist. The Iran prez claims to be fully will to comply with all the regulations for making safe nuclear power for his country and he has the right to that. Let's hold him to his word and watch him like a hawk. If he does screw up, we hold him to that as well. But the sad reality is that that is not what this all about, just like Bush was determined to go ta war with Iraq no matter the reason. etc etc.
Comment: Have special ops go in and root out the top officials in Iran and put in a new cabinet of people. Not bomb the country but take out the radical officials in power.
Comment: You people are living in a twisted cowardly la la land. Open your foolish eyes or watch your politically correct ignorance destroy this world.............
Comment: To gayblackwomenforpprez:
Your pathetic user name seems to say it all. You are an idiot scumback in which the likes of you are destroying this once great nation. Go *** Yourself..
Comment: I can't believe Bush still has supporters in the US today! For 2008, I think we should administer IQ tests before we let any more of these retards into the voting booths.
Comment: Better yet, lets have IQ tests for potential electorates so we can't vote in any more retards to try to run the country, no matter how much propaganda they bombard us with. Oh well, better luck with the next administration-it couldn't possibly get worse.
Comment: Go *** Yourself
Comment: why doesn't our president just bring home every troop around the world and then bring home as many jobs as we can also,charge a fee too check every shipping container coming into this country which would also create many jobs and make it cheaper to build here and not ship w/ the new security fees imposed on every container and would slow up ships and raise them cost more to import sorry world,security first , u.s first ,stop importing basic survival items like food,and fuel, maybe get serious w/ alternate fuels.
Comment: why doesn't our president just bring home every troop around the world and then bring home as many jobs as we can also,charge a fee too check every shipping container coming into this country which would also create many jobs and make it cheaper to build here and not ship w/ the new security fees imposed on every container and would slow up ships and raise them cost more to import sorry world,security first , u.s first ,stop importing basic survival items like food,and fuel, maybe get serious w/ alternate fuels.
Comment: Iran has a legitimate right to enrich uranium and operate nuclear research reactors and build nuclear power plants.
I'm curious why the U.S. didn't threaten North Korea with "World War III" despite the fact that North Korea actually tested a nuclear weapon, using plutonium from their clandestine program. North Korea refused to cooperate with the IAEA and eventually kicked their inspectors out. All the U.S. did was send Condoleeza over to Asia to grovel and plead with them to negotiate and cooperate.
In contrast, Iran has never had an IAEA inspection which found any evidence of diversion of nuclear material. Also, Iran has signed the Additional Protocol to the NPT and has fully cooperated in the more intrusive inspections under that Protocol, with no evidence of clandestine nuclear weapons programs. The IAEA has not declared Iran as being in violation of the NPT or any IAEA agreements, as a result of the IAEA inspections. If the U.S. doesn't trust the IAEA, then we shouldn't be funding 25 percent of the IAEA budget. If the U.S. has evidence of Iranian nuclear weapons programs, the U.S. should provide the info to the IAEA for the inspectors to check.
If the Iranians weren't trying to develop nuclear weapons before, they probably are now, with all the U.S. rhetoric about bombing Iran etc. That's just common sense, because how else would a country deter our hair-trigger, shoot-first-ask-questions-later style of international relations?
Lastly, whatever Iran is doing inside their own borders is none of the U.S. government's business, we're not the world's policeman and if we think we want to be an empire and dominate the world we should dispel that notion lest we get put in our place by the Chinese (and in a few years the Russians). By the way I was an IAEA inspector for three years, and voted Republican since I was 18, but after having seen this disaster of an administration, i'd vote for Hillary before I'd vote for GW Bush.
Comment: "...we are not the world policemen . . " --The police act with far more diplomacy and respect towards the rights of others than the Bush administration ever has. This comment is even insulting to hardworking police everywhere. Bush acts more like . . . . well ,Saddam, I suppose.
Comment: Patriot:
I posted this waaay down there but am reposting because your reasoning is correct. The stability of the US economy is the item in question when considering hostilities towards both Iran and Iraq, and why no hostile action was taken against NK. Read this below and everything will start to make more sense.
"Comment: The real reason for US hostility towards Iran: Google "Iran oil in euros" and sift past the consiracy crap until you find some legit literature. Then google "Iraq oil in euros" and you'll find out the real reasons for actions of the Bush administration. Note that just before the US went to war with Iraq, the UN had approved for Iraq to sell its oil in euros which would have had a huge negative impact on the USD. Note that 9/11 and Al queda were the issues at the time and Bush practically dropped that altogether to focus on Iraq, where he had to drum lies about 'the bomb' and chemical weapons as the reason for attacking, meanwhile N. Korea is waving there arms saying "we are building a real bomb, and were even going to test it to prove it!". The administration all but ignored this, lending support to the fact that the iraq war was started based on lies.
Just like an Iran war is trying to be started based on lies. (not saying that Iran doesn't have its problems)"
Comment: It was the necons who hoodwinked America into this bloodbath and the most prominent members of neocons are of Jewish descent. The architects of this war were right wing American/Israeli Jews who mysteriously ended up in key policy an ddecision making positions in Pentagon and other places. Paul Wolfowitz, Gouglas Keith, Richard perle, Wurmser, Newman Podeharz, all these architects of the blood bath in Iraq are of Jewish descent. These are right wing American Jews who have dragged US into this bloodbath. In fact some of these people happened to be authors of a document that was written for thenincoming Israeli prime minister Benjamine Nethanyahu. That document was claeed " A Clean Break" in which it had asked for removal of Saddam Housien, something that those authors who later were embedded in Bush administration did. Justt google the document "Clean Break". Why can't and won't the regular normal Jews as a community denounce these war mongers who do all these in the name of Jews. Why can't Jews denounce these neocons and the American Israeli Public Affair Committee AIPAC who hoodwinked America into thi sbloodbath in the name of Jews, Muslims denounced Bin Laden why can't Jews denounce these Jewish war mongers?
Comment: It was the necons who hoodwinked America into this bloodbath and the most prominent members of neocons are of Jewish descent. The architects of this war were right wing American/Israeli Jews who mysteriously ended up in key policy an ddecision making positions in Pentagon and other places. Paul Wolfowitz, Gouglas Keith, Richard perle, Wurmser, Newman Podeharz, all these architects of the blood bath in Iraq are of Jewish descent. These are right wing American Jews who have dragged US into this bloodbath. In fact some of these people happened to be authors of a document that was written for thenincoming Israeli prime minister Benjamine Nethanyahu. That document was claeed " A Clean Break" in which it had asked for removal of Saddam Housien, something that those authors who later were embedded in Bush administration did. Justt google the document "Clean Break". Why can't and won't the regular normal Jews as a community denounce these war mongers who do all these in the name of Jews. Why can't Jews denounce these neocons and the American Israeli Public Affair Committee AIPAC who hoodwinked America into thi sbloodbath in the name of Jews, Muslims denounced Bin Laden why can't Jews denounce these Jewish war mongers?
Comment: When is the attack happening?
Comment: I highly appreciate the author,s words,and i would to add that ,the US ,is mistaken in a way or another. The US interferes in many countries, policies and economy,also their way of handling economic and social and political problems as well.
I don,t mean that the US is of no use at all , but i think that the US shouldn,t play a dominating and opppressive role over the entire world.
The US should leave way for all countries to have its independence and freedom of the US,s dominance.
The US has an effective world over the whole world , but live and let live , as in French : laisse faire , laisse vivre.
I respect the US,s role over the whole world, but i don,t suggest too much interfering in others, affairs.
As for the Iranian problem of possessing nuclear weapons , i think that this shouldn,t annoy the US at all.
Iran will use it only for providing energy and for the sake of scientific research , as i guess and nothingelse.
Comment: If Us curbs Israel biatch bulldog, Israel cannot do much harm and will behave a bit better. But the Israel-Firster Jews in US will not allow that. They are worse than Israeli citizens living in Israel. By the way, ask Israel how badly beaten they were by Hezbolla last year. You US press will sugar-coat Israel but ask about reality. Iran will trap US and Israel for years in a quagmire that will harm our generations. Stupid American and Israel war supporters should understand that. Don't you see what's happening in Iraq?
Comment: here we go again with Hitler and Nazi crap. bloody Jews themselves have become the Hitlers now.the only way to end American and Israel hegemony is for Iran to get nukes. India has them and so does Pakistan. they balance each other out.
Comment: You are dead wrong mr. Hirsh. There were appeasers such as yourself woh were saying the same things in 1939 and 1940 about Hitler. That war with Germany was disasterous. well 26 million dead people later, it was the American soldiers who freed Europe. It is time again to fight the depoatosim and dictatrtorship and get ri do these cut throats in Iran. I don't undersatnad why liberars support thesee dictators and murderes and ca,ll themselevs liberals. They should call themselves indiferrent to the plight of the oppessed people of this world . Shame on liberals and cowards. Long live USA and God bless Mr. Bush.
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