The Road to War, Part II

With new unilateral U.S. sanctions announced Thursday, America and Iran may now be headed for unavoidable hostilities.

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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 08/16/2009 10:53:58 PM

    You kill your own people and you blame Americs for all your problems and then beg us to save you. NO MORE SOLVE YOUR OWN DAMN PROBLEMs. WE ARE NOT GETTING INVolved. GO TO IRAN AND TALK TO AMERJEHAND OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS. HE WILL JUST LOCK YOUR A** UP and throw away the key. WE HERE IN AMERICA ARE TIRED OF YOUR RELIGIOUS PROBLEMS YOU DON"T LIKE US GO LIVE IN IRAN AND MAKE A HOME FOR YOURSELF.

    We are not going to war anymore in the middle east. Iranians have to topple their own damn govenment. WE cannot afford anymore WAR. WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THE MIDDLE EAST. WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCY oN THE JEWISH SPECIAL INTERESTS AND WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS. NOT ONE AMERICAN LIFE IS WORTH GIVING UP FOR IRAN. THE PEOPLE IN IRAN HATE JEWS AND JEW HATE ARABS AND MUSLIMS THESE ARE THE FACTS. WE CANNOT DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT. LET"S LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE AND JUST KEEP THEM CONTAINIED.THE MEDIA IS NOT GOING TO BULLSH** US ANYMORE INTO WAR LIKE THEY DID UNDER BUSH. THE MEDIA WAS SO IRRESPONSIBLE. THE pROBLEMS IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAVE BEEN GOING ON BEFOR THE EXSISTENCE OF THE UNITED STATES. THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO KILL EAChOTHER AND SUFFER BEFORE CHANGE CAN HAPPEN. WE WILL are not falling for the same old crap. IF IRAN GETS NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND THREATENS TO USE THEM THEY KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES. THAT MUST BE MADE CLEAR AND THAT IT.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 08/16/2009 10:41:51 PM

    We are not going to war anymore in the middle east. Iranians have to topple their own damn govenment. WE cannot afford anymore WAR. WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THE MIDDLE EAST. WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCY oN THE JEWISH SPECIAL INTERESTS AND WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS. NOT ONE AMERICAN LIFE IS WORTH GIVING UP FOR IRAN. THE PEOPLE IN IRAN HATE JEWS AND JEW HATE ARABS AND MUSLIMS THESE ARE THE FACTS. WE CANNOT DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT. LET"S LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE AND JUST KEEP THEM CONTAINIED.THE MEDIA IS NOT GOING TO BULLSH** US ANYMORE INTO WAR LIKE THEY DID UNDER BUSH. THE MEDIA WAS SO IRRESPONSIBLE. THE pROBLEMS IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAVE BEEN GOING ON BEFOR THE EXSISTENCE OF THE UNITED STATES. THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO KILL EAChOTHER AND SUFFER BEFORE CHANGE CAN HAPPEN. WE WILL are not falling for the same old crap. IF IRAN GETS NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND THREATENS TO USE THEM THEY KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES. THAT MUST BE MADE CLEAR AND THAT IT.

  • Posted By: Iranazad @ 11/09/2007 9:33:07 AM

    Mr Muslem Our wildwest Mulla natzi Muslem they did show us in 30 years in Iran your real islam.they are killing our young people ,hang them in street every day. this is your real Islam.you may tell the others your nice story but not Iranian .wait very soon we as Iranian will put this Islam and the Mulla together in WC and FLASH it . you can be muslem it is ok with me but if you talk about nice islam think about IRAN

  • Posted By: Iranazad @ 11/09/2007 9:19:49 AM

    Posted By: wildwest @ 11/08/2007 5:23:54 PM
    Comment: I am a Muslim and what you say about Islam and Muslims is so misleading and decieving. Can you show me some reference for those claims against Islam. And please don't give me Pat Robertsona and other Islamophobics as reference. thank you

    Mr Muslim what are you doing in Wildwest come to Iran ,we will show you Our wildwest Mulla natzi killer ,do not worry about Pat Robertsona we wii show you killer Ali Khomenei.do you want to know ?

  • Posted By: steve25 @ 11/02/2007 9:12:26 PM

    And PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE don't give me that Anti-Semitic CRAPPPPPPPPPPPP.

    • Posted By: wildwest @ 11/08/2007 5:34:54 PM

      Not every Jew is a semite and not every semite is a Jew so what do you exactly mean by the term Anti-semetic?

  • Posted By: steve25 @ 11/04/2007 6:35:33 AM

    Imagine the United States of America, the most powerful nation in the world, is being lead around by a bung of Israeli Zionist Thugs--We need a new administation and a new foreign policy, The Palestinians were deprived of their land and Israel to this day is continually expanding it's borders. It would be a noble thing for Israel to have it's charter revoked, Zionism labeled as the utmost terrorist organization, and once and for all the USA to end it's alliance with Israel.

    • Posted By: masherif @ 11/04/2007 9:35:48 AM

      Dear Steve,
      I agree with you that the Palestinians were deprived of their land. I do not agree with you that Zionism the utmost terrorist organization. If you are really standing for Palestinians and human rigthts so do not mix things that way!!!
      There is so much Zionists who are peacefull and who do not agree at all with Israels policy and it's occupation of palestinian Land.

      • Posted By: wildwest @ 11/08/2007 5:31:36 PM

        It was the zionists who drove Palestinians out of their land and stole their lands. In fact the current Israeli defense forces IDF are the combination of three Jewish terrorist organization that originally wrught havok . They used to bomb Palestinians ' restaurants, shops and homes. Does it sound like the AlQaeda inIraq? Very much so. Those Jewish/zionist terrorist organizations were bombing Palestinians' shops and cafe long before Arafat was born. Go figure. So those zionists who are against the land theft and are against the Israeli barbaric conducts where are they? what are they doing? hjow are they showing their disapproval of that? Are those Jewish zionists or christian zionists?

    • Posted By: shoegen @ 11/08/2007 4:31:25 AM

      Maybe it is the Palestinians who should change thier policy and accept that Israel is there to stay. Start by disarming all these militias and work on a peace plan that would guaranty Israel's security. Only then can you have real peace in the region. If the Palestinians want to keep up the violence fine they just should not cry to the world about how badly they are being treated. Oh it was just a few rockets we shot into Israel why oh why do they bomb us back .wahhhhh

  • Posted By: averagecitizen @ 11/05/2007 8:50:01 PM

    I am a 35 y/o mairried man, your average citizen who lives in rual Oklahoma and I can't see why the people of this country can't see the truth of things. Iran is an Islamic state and diplomacy rarely works with a country like them. Islam, the muslim religion teaches to destroy all who are non-believers those who do not practie their religion. and the people of this country who believe that if we let them do what they want and they will just leave us alone have a rude wake-up call in store for them. If left alone the have and will again attack us but in a much more deadly way than 9/11. as for you left wing liberals think back 20 years or more if your old enough... did you hear the disrespect for our country or our president that you all spout out as if you were talking about some communist country or leader, people HAVE SOME RESPECT!!! I couldn't stand Pres. Bill Clinton but when i spoke his name I said President Clinton not old bill or stupid a__ Clinton the least you could do is show that you support our Gov. even if you don't agree whith it's dicisions, we are Americans and we should act like it more often.

    • Posted By: wildwest @ 11/08/2007 5:23:54 PM

      I am a Muslim and what you say about Islam and Muslims is so misleading and decieving. Can you show me some reference for those claims against Islam. And please don't give me Pat Robertsona and other Islamophobics as reference. thank you

  • Posted By: shoegen @ 11/07/2007 11:36:37 AM

    The president of Iran has just admitted to his country having three thousand centrifuges. That is plenty to produce enough plutonium for nuclear weapons. Now why would he admit to that? I think he wants to force some kind of reaction from the U.S. and the west. Is he insane or is he crazy like a fox? Any action surely would be detrimental to thier economy so why would he try to force our hand? Maybe he's bluffing? Should Bush call his bluff? That depends on the stakes. Let me see an increase in the price of oil is a definate outcome. A disruption in the flow of oil most certainly. How about this forget about the oil equasion for a minute and imagine an all out attack by air on all known targets. They would try to defend thier airspace and we would target thier radar and missile defences after that all thier jet fighters, communications and command centers. They would lose the war one day after it started and we would not have to go in there and try to occupy the country because there would be nothing left to occupy. Thier entire oil industry was built by the U.S. and other western nations. They have only western technology. So call his bluff then raise him all out war and then we see what he's after.

    • Posted By: wildwest @ 11/08/2007 5:19:00 PM

      "Just admitted?" this has been a public news for a long time. Iran has the right under the charters of International Atomic Agency to have centrifuges and enrich Euranium. Energy enriched Euranium is enriched about 3-5 % for nuclear bomb you need to enrich it to 93-95 %. I am not sure what is th ebig fuss. Iran is doing what it is her right under the Atomic Agency's charter. And of course there goes the rest of your argument.

  • Posted By: bd1stimpression @ 11/08/2007 1:54:04 AM

    international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!

    • Posted By: masherif @ 11/08/2007 7:16:40 AM

      Dear bd1stimpression
      Thank you very much for your comment. I see it as a very important step for peace. And I am asking myself why so many people are talking about war like if it is a game.
      I am asking why so many people want to be hidden behind weapons and if this is maybe another way to be hidden behind themselves because they are afraid from themselves and that is maybe why they need ever enemies and wars? Very interesting is that most of them push religious ideas behind!
      Thanks again.

  • Posted By: bd1stimpression @ 11/08/2007 1:50:29 AM

    international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!

  • Posted By: bd1stimpression @ 11/08/2007 1:50:12 AM

    international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!

  • Posted By: bd1stimpression @ 11/08/2007 1:48:57 AM

    international law was first talked about at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in 1944 and later signed in 1945 by president Herry S. Truman, Article 6 paragraph 2 of the united states constitution clearly states that "..any treatys signed by the united states shall be the supreme law of the land..." Since 1945 when the president sigend the treaty we,the United States, have been bound by not only by international law but domestic law as well to obey all articles of the charter of the U.N. The United Nations charter forbids any and all war except under two (2) situations:1)self defense. They are allowed to defend themselves. 2)The direct authorization of the U.N security council. The security council system was created to dicourage a rouge nation from using violence as a means of achieving it's own interests without regard for the rest of the international community. Sound familure?? If Iran, under the srtict and careful eye of the IAEA (wich deams irans projects legit by the way) is in fact using enriched uranium(not even close to weapons grade) as a means of bettering the nation of iran....more power to them. Who are we to say what other countries can and cannot do when they are following the prescribed guidelines set forth by the international communtiy?? I wonder if any of you who post comments on here really understand the depth and complexity of the situation if we were to infact invade iran?? Do you not believe that the final islamic crusade is not on the horizon? Do you not believe that the entire middle east will be engulfed into a full on war? If you think that for one minute that neighboring countries such as syria,turkey,afghanistan,pakistan,iraq qatar,bahrain,etc...will not be pulled into this...think again. God Bless our troops!!!!

  • Posted By: shoegen @ 11/07/2007 11:38:47 AM

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    • Posted By: shoegen @ 11/07/2007 4:06:51 PM

      If you did'nt tell us you live in the Middle-East I could have guessed it. Oh everything is soooo complicated over there and we dumb americans can not possibly figure out the complexities of the region. Well let me try,the arabs are the good guys and the zionists are the bad guys...close enough.Well let me tell you a little something about modern warfare Yazeyn. First we can pound a country like Iran into submission we cuold drop so many bombs exactly where we want and we could do it without risking a single life. Her's how my friend we put a smart bomb on an unmanned plane fly it by computer (my computer if you like) right into Tehran and I could drop it from the comfort of my living room. So it's you who does'nt understand imagine, we sell americans a chance to fight in a Middle-Eastern war and never leave home.Game Over.

  • Posted By: ya3eyn @ 11/07/2007 2:48:31 PM

    The Middle East is much more complicated than many in the US can imagine. The US administration and media always see the Middle East from one side only, that is the Israeli side. To make better US policies in this region someone should understand the people here, I grew up in the US and now i live in the Middle East where i started to understand the people better, and they definately do not resemble what we read about. People over here have diffirent agendas, they dont see just material interest, they have other issues in mind. Attacking Iran is catasrophic. The vast majority of the Middle East Oil is only across from the Persion Gulf few miles from Iran, stretching from Iraq to east Saudi Arabia to the smaller Gulf Countries. The moment the US hits Iran, thousands of rokets if not 10s or 100s of thousands will fall allover the area where trillions of dollars are invested in rich oil countries by many US companies, the Gulf is shut down, barrel of oil hits unrealistic records, no more oil flowing through to any one, big investements are bombarded. In Iraq so many US troops could be killed and or kidnapped. God knows how long this war can last. The recent war in Lebanon proved that technology cannot alone win wars, you need soldiers who should do it on the ground, the US soldier cannot face ready to die Iranian soldiers on the ground. Air attacks cannot win wars it can only destroy and kill, then what. Do we really think that iran will surrender just like that? we should be very naiive to think so. This war will definately spread, Syria Hizbolah vs Israel, the Arab people might overthrough some US Puppet leaders, God knows how bad this could get. The Middle East is a very volatile area. Europe and the US will be the bigest loosers for sure, Israel will be next in line. Launching this war is like going through a Mine Field. I think all what Bush thinks about is to be Mr. Macho man, he wants to gain popularity before he leaves office its all about legacy, but at what price. A very heavy price and for sure no legacy here, just ask the military people and they can tell you.

  • Posted By: earthcitizen @ 11/07/2007 9:26:38 AM

    Are the leaders of Iran misleading or misrepresenting its rank and file? Would Iran's rank and file quality of life benefit from nuke power for peaceful purposes? Are we killing and dying in iraq because our leaders mislead and misrepresented us? When national leaders make life and death decisions, are these decisions guided by what is best for their country's rank and file, or are their decisions guided by what's best for the small ruling class group to which they belong? Niether Islam nor Christianity support propagation by the sword/bomb. Nevertheless, when either believes that they are threatened by the other, they shall defend. Are the Iranian people threatening the American people, and are the American people threatening the Iranian people? If not, both country's leaders must make that plain to their rank and file.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 10/26/2007 11:46:47 AM

    YA YA YA IRAN WANT TO WAR-WRONG!! OPEN YOUR OWN EYES WE ARE THE NUCLEAR COUNTRY HERE, WITH POWER COMES RESPONSABILITY, WE DON'T HAVE, OR BUSH HAS NONE, AND YOU BLAME IRAN?? NOT THE INTIMIDATING BUSH OF THE USA, NO, NEVER, HE IS A MELLOW PRES AND WOULD NEVER START A WAR, NO, NOT BUSH, NOT NEVER!! SOUNDS LIKE A CHILDRENS FAIRY TAIL IRAN HAS NO NUKES. WE DO! ISRAIEL DOES! NOT IRAN! SO WHO IS WARING FOR THE WORLD? NOT IRAN! THE M. F. USA, IS THE ANTAGONIST HERE, NOT IRAN! DO THE ONE THING BUSH NEVER DOES LISTEN, LEARN, AND THEN MAKE A DESCISION! DON'T FOLLOW THE WAR MONGER BUSH CAUSE HE COMES FROM TX, AND BEFRIENDS NO COUNTRY, AND OWES NO ONE, NOTHING! NOT EVEN OUR BUTT BUDDIES IN THE MIDDLE-EAST THE JEWS, CAUSE THEY ARE A NUCLEAR COUNTRY, WE GAVE IT TO THEM!!! NOW THEY WILL GIVE IT TO US-WATCH, DIE, AND WHO CARES???

    • Posted By: averagecitizen @ 11/05/2007 9:51:00 PM

      You are a traditor to the U.S.A. and should be locked away never to be let out.... learn about whats going on in the world... and why, don't just jump with stupidity, it will only get you in deep SH_ _ !!!!

  • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 10/26/2007 12:48:53 PM

    "The mistake of invading over WMD that did not exist has left our country with little credibility. "

    You make good points Jackson. The only part I disagree with you on is pointing the finger of blame for not finding WMD's at Bush. EVERY intelligence agency of the west believed and reported that Iraq had them. Bush went on the intelligence he had - no President has ESP and all of them act on the information given to them by others.

    • Posted By: averagecitizen @ 11/05/2007 9:35:30 PM

      as far as WMD well did none of you watch the news leading up to the war the photos and video of the convoy after convoy leaving the weapons facilitys going to syria , if you search syria you might find what we were looking for...!!!!????

  • Posted By: philly67 @ 10/26/2007 12:51:10 PM

    george bush is responsible for more dead americans than osama bin laden ,what are we going to invade iran with the boy scouts ?

    • Posted By: averagecitizen @ 11/05/2007 9:28:05 PM

      GET REAL!!!!! PRESIDENT BUSH is doing what all Amricans including the (all knowing all seeing) democrats wanted, oh by the way that was sarcsam... but they did agree to attack Iraq, don't take the side of the enemy or the wishy-washy democrats... you know the last 4 letters in that word describes the democrats .....RATS.... hav a nice day!!!

  • Posted By: wake up america @ 10/26/2007 12:58:27 PM

    this is the same reasons hitler used to start ww2 and george faches bush will use to stare ww3. wake up america be for this nut leads us down a dark road to defeet and the loss of all are young people..

    • Posted By: averagecitizen @ 11/05/2007 9:17:55 PM

      Get real... hitler did not use the same reasons to start WWII he wanted to kill all the Jews and take over the world... President Bush wants to keep a country who wants to kill all non-believers and take over the world by forcing their religion on everone, from getting nukes to destroy all us non-believers. OH Yeah learn to spell or at least use spell-check.....

  • Posted By: GlennHarvey @ 11/04/2007 12:40:12 PM

    The constitution makes the president "Commander and Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States".
    It gives the Congress the power to "declare War", "raise and support Armies","provide and maintain a Navy" and "provide for calling forth the Militia to ... suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions" . Since the president and vice president have chosen to parse the words of the Constitution,to give the president broad powers to initiate and conduct a war, the Congress and state legislatures should act now to prevent the president from unilaterlally pulling us into another war -- with Iran. If the Congress is so deadlocked that it can't act, then the state legislatures should act to protect their citizens by enacting laws that prevent the national guard from being called up for national service in Iran except in case of explicit authorizing act by Congress. Also the legislatures should prevent Draft boards from being convened except by explicit authorization by Congress.. If the states do not act now to let the president and Congress know that they are willing to exert their power in the face of Congressional paralysis and executive aggression, then soon it will be too late and the people will be committed to a war they do not support.

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