The casual mention of instigating World War III is insane. Iran is not an immediate threat to the United States and the possession of a nuclear weapon would not make it so. If anything, there is a measure of insanity in the administration.
The casual mention of instigating World War III is insane. Iran is not an immediate threat to the United States and the possession of a nuclear weapon would not make it so. If anything, there is a measure of insanity in the administration.
Until Detroit goes Boom. Or New York, or Chicago, or Minneapolis, etc., etc., etc.
obsessive illness can be political as well as individual and when we see the political reaction to iran we see this illness at work and we will all pay dearly for the present political leaders obsessions
What is really crazy is that people who could come to the truth, and probably already have, simply refuse to support it because, like those other nits in Follywood, love their fifteen minutes.
Extremist militant Islam comes from the Sunni Wahabis of Saudi Arabia (where most Iraqi insurgent money comes from). So why do we want to attack an Iran that is already on the road to democracy and support a reactionary monarchy in Saudi Arabia? Shia Iran has nothing to do with Sunni Al Qaeda. Are we fighting our enemies or Israels enemies? The Bush administration has already shown its deep ignorance of geo-politics. What makes anyone think that they have finally awakened? Bush will atack Iran before he leaves office regardless of the price because he still belives in the 1% solution and that it is his calling to strike down the evil doers.
Well, you are right in assuming that militant Islam sprang from the Wahabi sect, however, militant Islam is now more like Hydra. Their are many heads. The Iranian leadership is just one of the more hateful ones.
Futhermore... you can bet people such as elio57 (below) have never been to Iran, or the middle east, and while he/she would have no problem pushing a button in order to "Take down" Iran, do people such as this (The Neocon America hater types) it's all a big game, a black and white world of absolutes, little do they care of the hundreds of thousands of innocent people who get killed for their theories, the idiotic non-existant "war on terror" is brought to you by the same intellectually lazy bunch who dreamed up the "domino" theory in the 60's and 70's. It took what? 15 years, 58,000 dead GI's, and a million dead vietnamese for peopel to realize what a pile of bullkrap that one was. Are we really that stupid to fall for this line of insanity all over again in the 21st century?
and you think the people that brought us the 9/11 can be compared to the residents of Indochina of the 50's and 60's. What world do you live in?
Extremist militant Islam is a mortal threat to the US. If we do not aggressively try and change the dynamic in the middle east , sooner or later we will be dealing with regular Islamic terrorist attacks within the US borders akin to 9/11 and suicide attacks. Taking down Iran is an unavoidable step in dealing with the threats against us. Unfortunately this cannot be done through dialog. In the long run the use of force now, will work.
Though, if Clinton is elected she will do nothing until it is too late.
The comment below is ignorant. Iran has sworn to fire 11,000 missiles at the first sign of hostility against the Iranian nation. Israel should be left to fend for its own, to keep us Americans out of another pointless, costly war.
Note: It is never ok to use a nuclear weapon on any country. That is a statement from a violent, evil, human being.
I also added he is in the military- that gives you no credit in some peoples books, you can't even spell. You might just be a loser who wasn't smart enough to get into college and wasnt ready enough to go into the real world so you joined a group that would for sure feed you, so long as your told what to do.
Some soilders are intelligent, brave, and god-fearing. This roddog69 who has what his name clames, the intelligence of a dog, is obviously not one of them.
"your", really.
Let the U.S. pop a tactical nuke out in the desert about 100 mile from Tehran, make sure its not traceable to the U.S. Then we just go on bussinness as normal. Lets us then see what happens. I am in the military (24yrs) and I do not want to go to war. Iran must not get a nuke. If its time for me to go again, so be it
MSG B
Well, that would be something we would not do.
FYI - I did not mean that Isreal should blow itself up. I meant let the Shia and Sunni's fight it out - and keep us on the sidelines to help support Isreal's safety.
Just another note - to those who beleive in God, the defense of Isreal is critical to God. Those who aid his chosen will be favored. THose who attack Isreal will be destroyed. Don't beleive me? Read Revelations.
or, Eziekiel 38
sp_arabian - we obviously know what your bias and ulterior motive is in letting Iran get nuclear weapons. Are you stupid enough to believe that Iran won't attack Europe and America if we just let them go on with business as usual. We made that mistake already with your friend Hitler! Although I don't agree with nuking Iran, we need to do whatever it takes to disarm them. It's obvious from certain things in your post, and your name that your loyalty is not to America, which is why you have an ulterior motive behind your transparent comments. Insulting a soldier who has served our country for 24 years because of a few mispellings is unacceptable to Americans - not that you'd know that, or even care! You spell correctly, but are a weasel - so what does that prove?! If it weren't for fine American soldiers like roddog69, you wouldn't have the right to sit here and bad mouth America to benefit your real totalitarian homeland in the middle-east!
Hopefully a war can be avoided! But if war is inevitable, and we don' fight now, we'll have to fight later. And if we fight later, Iran will be stronger and have nuclear weapons - it will make for a much more costly (in lives) war! If a war were to break out, clearly you'd be going back home and fighting for Iran!
Iran is no threat to the USA, to say they are protrays a deep.. deep...DEEP Ignorance of Geo-Poltics. not only are they not a threat to the USA, they're not even a threat to their neighbors. Trying to "nation build" and micro-manage other cultures, namely those in the middle easy is pure folly, and will lead (for better or worse) to the bankruptcy of the United States of America.
"geopolitics", wow, such an impressive word you use. You have no idea of what deep-seated contempt and hatred for all things "West" the Iranian leadership harbors. If the United States were not present on the world stage, the Iranians would be looking to bring down whoever was the "United States". The Iranians truly wish to see Israel wiped off the map. They would then truly like to consolidate their power in all of the MIddle east before moving on Turkey, then Greece, etc., etc., before moving on into the rest of Europe. I've always wondered what the liberals think they will gain by their continual push to bring down the United States.
Iran has a legitimate right to enrich uranium and operate nuclear research reactors and build nuclear power plants.
I'm curious why the U.S. didn't threaten North Korea with "World War III" despite the fact that North Korea actually tested a nuclear weapon, using plutonium from their clandestine program. North Korea refused to cooperate with the IAEA and eventually kicked their inspectors out. All the U.S. did was send Condoleeza over to Asia to grovel and plead with them to negotiate and cooperate.
In contrast, Iran has never had an IAEA inspection which found any evidence of diversion of nuclear material. Also, Iran has signed the Additional Protocol to the NPT and has fully cooperated in the more intrusive inspections under that Protocol, with no evidence of clandestine nuclear weapons programs. The IAEA has not declared Iran as being in violation of the NPT or any IAEA agreements, as a result of the IAEA inspections. If the U.S. doesn't trust the IAEA, then we shouldn't be funding 25 percent of the IAEA budget. If the U.S. has evidence of Iranian nuclear weapons programs, the U.S. should provide the info to the IAEA for the inspectors to check.
If the Iranians weren't trying to develop nuclear weapons before, they probably are now, with all the U.S. rhetoric about bombing Iran etc. That's just common sense, because how else would a country deter our hair-trigger, shoot-first-ask-questions-later style of international relations?
Lastly, whatever Iran is doing inside their own borders is none of the U.S. government's business, we're not the world's policeman and if we think we want to be an empire and dominate the world we should dispel that notion lest we get put in our place by the Chinese (and in a few years the Russians). By the way I was an IAEA inspector for three years, and voted Republican since I was 18, but after having seen this disaster of an administration, i'd vote for Hillary before I'd vote for GW Bush.
"...we are not the world policemen . . " --The police act with far more diplomacy and respect towards the rights of others than the Bush administration ever has. This comment is even insulting to hardworking police everywhere. Bush acts more like . . . . well ,Saddam, I suppose.
Patriot:
I posted this waaay down there but am reposting because your reasoning is correct. The stability of the US economy is the item in question when considering hostilities towards both Iran and Iraq, and why no hostile action was taken against NK. Read this below and everything will start to make more sense.
"Comment: The real reason for US hostility towards Iran: Google "Iran oil in euros" and sift past the consiracy crap until you find some legit literature. Then google "Iraq oil in euros" and you'll find out the real reasons for actions of the Bush administration. Note that just before the US went to war with Iraq, the UN had approved for Iraq to sell its oil in euros which would have had a huge negative impact on the USD. Note that 9/11 and Al queda were the issues at the time and Bush practically dropped that altogether to focus on Iraq, where he had to drum lies about 'the bomb' and chemical weapons as the reason for attacking, meanwhile N. Korea is waving there arms saying "we are building a real bomb, and were even going to test it to prove it!". The administration all but ignored this, lending support to the fact that the iraq war was started based on lies.
Just like an Iran war is trying to be started based on lies. (not saying that Iran doesn't have its problems)"
I can't believe Bush still has supporters in the US today! For 2008, I think we should administer IQ tests before we let any more of these retards into the voting booths.
Better yet, lets have IQ tests for potential electorates so we can't vote in any more retards to try to run the country, no matter how much propaganda they bombard us with. Oh well, better luck with the next administration-it couldn't possibly get worse.
Go *** Yourself
Iran, by proxy, is alreadyat war with us in Iraq. Take out the potential nukes and they will see that it is better to be at peace with us. As for the EU, they have it figured out I guess. What with 2 world wars and 40 million plus deaths that went along with it, I figure they are smarter and more cultured than we are. As for blackdragon,religious war? Put down the bong my friend, at least come up with something uniquely yours, Peace
disgusted: The 'miscalculations' out of Europe that you claim responsible for the two world wars were no miscalculations. There are people who reap massive wealth on wars and I'm not really talking about the 'Haliburtons'. Think much larger . . . most wars in the last 100 years have been planned for reasons that are basically unbelievable. Which is why their actions are safe, because even if the truth were exposed, no one would believe it. There are people so powerful in this world that it makes Bush look like a child in a sandbox, (well he does that well enough on his own, I suppose).
no one is bashing America. Face it totally incompetent is Bush.
Say Montana and Idaho were sovereign nations and the rest of America attacked Idaho because it did not have nuclear weapons..
The war in Iraq started this mess. war with iran will tip over the barrell. All middle East warand destabalization. Bush does not care. he thinks it will elect a republican.
Hey! to call Bush incompetent is just plain cruel to incompetent people everywhere! Give them more credit than that! ; )
Who will be punished and what punishment will be given to the responsible for the war on false information. USA had carried out the war against Iraq on same type of information and killed thousand innocent. This is just matter of mis trust. Actually the storng or establish Iran is hardle to USA for obtain full benifits of oil in Iraq/
Iran is already fighting us by proxy in Iraq, therefore they are already in their minds at war with us, Take out the potential nukes and they will know what their nation needs is peace, with us. Forget the EU and others who say this is no threat, they have usually been behind in accurate assements of potential theats. OhEurope, thanks for the 2 world wars and millions of deaths that your miscalculations gave the world
George is definitly wanting to go out in flames. Is this what we get . a religious war?? I would hope this next election brings about some sensibility in our government. I thought Vietnam was the pits but George really wants to drag us through hell one more time.
Have special ops go in and root out the top officials in Iran and put in a new cabinet of people. Not bomb the country but take out the radical officials in power.
You people are living in a twisted cowardly la la land. Open your foolish eyes or watch your politically correct ignorance destroy this world.............
To gayblackwomenforpprez:
Your pathetic user name seems to say it all. You are an idiot scumback in which the likes of you are destroying this once great nation. Go *** Yourself..
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