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‘We Can’t Solve This’

A former CIA analyst discusses Turk-Kurd tensions in Northern Iraq and whether Washington can do anything to help.

 

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Is Turkey likely to launch a major attack on Iraq? Tensions around that question were underscored after the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) launched a deadly cross-border attack on Turkish troops on Oct. 21. The quality of intelligence gathered is crucial during such times, and Bruce Riedel spent nearly 30 years answering such questions at the CIA and National Security Council and as adviser to Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush. Now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, Riedel spoke with NEWSWEEK's Seth Colter Walls about the administration's strategy on the PKK since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as how he views the overall behavior of the Kurdish authorities in Iraq toward the group. Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: What does it mean for the United States if Turkey launches a major operation in northern Iraq against the PKK?
Bruce Riedel:
I think the administration has a major embarrassment on its hands. Here's a NATO ally invading our supposed Iraqi democracy, because the Iraqi government that we created won't fight terrorism. It will be, at minimum, a major embarrassment—and it may require that we reverse our long-standing desire not to put American troops up there and at least have the appearance of pressuring the Kurds to do more.

Why isn't the United States up there in northern Iraq already?
I think the administration's posture toward the PKK has been, "We wish this problem would go away. Dealing with it is too hard." The reason it's too hard is that we don't have the forces available to do it ourselves. It's well known that American military forces in Iraq are stretched past the limit. This would be a very difficult military operation, given the terrain—given that the border is very hard to delineate. We have, from the beginning, not been willing to do it ourselves. We've relied on Massoud Barzani's Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), and Iraqi Kurds have never been eager to kill fellow Kurds on behalf of Turkey. The KDP and Barzani were never into the business of being the law-enforcement cop on behalf of Turkey, against their fellow Kurds. So they turned a blind eye. Meanwhile, the PKK got stronger and stronger. The odds are not very good that the KDP are going to change that position. We might hear promises in the next few days out of Iraqi leaders, but at the end of the day it's very unlikely that they're going to take the very severe military steps that would be required to take down the PKK. That leaves it to the Turks. They've been trying for 15 years now. They haven't been successful, but this time I think they'll make a pretty substantial effort across the border. At least to clear a zone along the border where they can move easily to target PKK groups once they have intelligence.

Hasn't Turkey attempted to clear such a zone along the border before?
The problem is that it never stays very clear. They've had troops in the north since 1992 or '93, more or less continuously—commandos and special ops. There's a large Turkish intelligence presence. They've tried to recruit their own Iraqi allies from the Turkoman population. None of it has had the permanent effect of ridding the region of the PKK.

What about the theory that says Barzani is merely waiting to act against the PKK as a quid pro quo for securing Kirkuk and its oil?
He may hope that this is a card he can use at some point, but I'm skeptical it's a card he can really play. I don't think you're going to find a lot of Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga [guerrilla fighters] willing to kill fellow Kurds.

In the past the peshmerga have boasted publicly about actions against the PKK, though. Isn't it in their interest to police the area well?
[Peshmerga fighters have] often proclaimed that they've captured someone, only to make sure that the revolving door moves pretty quickly. Iraqi Kurdish parties have always been less than honest about what they're doing with the PKK. The truth is that they don't really do much at all. They round up some people, close an office or two when the heat is on. But they've never really taken any action to permanently take the PKK down. At the end of the day, they all share the same dream: an independent Kurdistan that goes beyond Iraq to include parts of Turkey and Iran. The Kurdish Iraqi leadership is very careful when it speaks to Westerners, especially in public, to downplay those aspirations. [But] they know it's what their constituency wants. Every poll shows it. Ninety-five percent of Iraqi Kurds want independence. It's particularly true among younger Kurds, many of whom have grown up in a liberated Iraqi Kurdistan since 1991, and whose only memories of the Baghdad government and the Arab part of Iraq is genocide. So it's understandable why there's no real sympathy there for staying as a part of Iraq and being the policeman of Turkey in suppressing its Kurdish population. I think the administration and the military in Iraq are well aware of these facts. And that's why the PKK issue is always put on the back burner—hoping that it will somehow go away or stay under the radar screen until we're out of Iraq.

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  • Posted By: SalanH @ 03/18/2009 7:42:28 AM

    There are two very important points enunciated in this article

    - Every single Kurd houses aspirations for an independent Kurdistan, to be respected as a Kurd not an Iraqi, Iranian, Turk or a Syrian but as a Kurd. This is a basic human right that has somehow been taken away from the Kurds and the Kurds have been told to stay happy with the status quo.

    - The Americans will eventually abandon the Kurds much the same way they did in 1991 (Gulf War) and in 1975 (Henry Kissinger and the Algiers Accord).

  • Posted By: jules007 @ 11/09/2007 12:07:19 AM

    It's not the Kurdish people in Turkey that are causing the problems. Most of the Kurdish people are peaceful and do NOT support any form of terrorism acts (such as the continual killing of Turkish people/soldiers). The PKK are an independent group and do NOT represent the majority of the Kurdish population. The Kurdish people have integrated well among Turkish people. Istanbul is a thriving metropolis that supports unity of all people. It's the same as any fundamentalist group, that impose their own ideologies and belief structures on the world. I think you'll find that Kurdish people in general, especially those that have integrated well into Turkish society, do not hold the same belief structures as those of the fanatic and completely mislead PKK.

  • Posted By: DC VA MD @ 11/04/2007 12:51:14 AM

    Turkey has approximately 80 million population and 30 million of that are the people with Kurdish origin. The country is directed by 550 house representatives and close to 200 of those have also Kurdish descent. Anybody who doesn???t believe this can check previous Turkish president, Turgut Ozal???s background in Wikipedia, who was also of partial Kurdish descent. According to Reuters news released Sun Oct 28, 2007, 12:12pm ET, 30000 people were killed since early 1980s. If a fanatic group calling themselves as a ???party??? and causing so many peoples??? death by bombing the military stations and killing the civilians including Kurdish villagers how much would you believe their ideology that saving 20 million Kurds in Turkey and giving them freedom when Kurds in Turkey can be elected even as a president? Why 2 million Kurds in Iraq are so much interested with 20 million Kurds??? rights in Turkey when more than 3 million of them are living even in Istanbul?

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