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  • Posted By: kurdboy @ 10/29/2007 5:12:53 AM

    Turkey want kerkuk and musul.and also they hate kurdish.they want destroy kurdish.

  • Posted By: analyst @ 10/29/2007 4:57:44 AM

    Dear Ottoman Boy, somethings are true in your comment , Yes, Turkey is alone for this issue, but do not forget that, we are not in 19th century, turkish people (including government, institutions etc) have to explain the situation to the world before making something, otherwise, turkey will be confronted with massive political and economical attacks from western countries after acting something. Turkey should learn to use power of media (i mean propoganda)

  • Posted By: Karabekir @ 10/29/2007 2:50:25 AM

    First you must to change your terminology. PKK is not rebels or guerillas THEY ARE TERRORIST. We can talk after saying what the western countyrs want. US and EU want to saperate the Turkiye. This is obvious. They have realy deep complex about Turks. Because of that they want to Turks and Kurds will be enemy and teokratik islamic republic in Turkiye. But you dont know that Turks not like Saudi Arabians.

  • Posted By: Ottoman_boy @ 10/28/2007 7:59:52 PM

    Well , as Turkish person it''s inescapable to control Qandil and Iraq by .US and EU are always detain Turkey.We must do something alone; as we did in history.

  • Posted By: Ottoman_boy @ 10/28/2007 7:59:15 PM

    Well , as Turkish person it''s inescapable to control Qandil and Iraq by .US and EU are always detain Turkey.We must do something alone; as we did in history.

  • Posted By: localmichael @ 10/28/2007 6:42:04 PM

    US says they are busy cleaning up "their" terrorists in Bagdad and in Afghanistan. It is clear that they are losing the war in both countries. In fact I would not be surprised watching the last US helicopter taking off from Baghdad soon, something we have seen in Saigon not too long ago.
    As such, asking them to clean up one more terrorist group somewhere else on the map is asking for too much. The Turks should clean up "their" terrorists by themselves, if they seriously want to. I am sure Iran and Syria will not object, since they have already learned thru history not to mess up with the Turks.
    According to a few hundred years old agreement with the Turks, Iranians are not supposed to interfere in the affairs of peoples west of the Iraqi-Iranian border, if Iraq is controlled by the Turks.

  • Posted By: oytun @ 10/28/2007 8:51:04 AM

    Most of the same Kurds you are talking about are enjoying their positions in the society of Turkish nation. Many of them have good jobs and have already established their life with their family as a part of Turkey. Few of them are in bad conditions like their brothers and sisters like Turks because of the vulnerable economic structure of Turkish goverment. This case is not about Turks and Kurds can't get along together. This is about the people who wants more power and the cost of many dead people does not bother them. One should be careful before talking about the ???attitudes??? of the countries which Kurds live in. Don???t put Turkey in a basket with the others. And why don???t you let Kurds defend their rights? Are they not civilized enough to do this? Or the ones you are talking about are too busy to bomb places and kill people, and the others don???t care because they have no complain about their conditions?

    • Posted By: richardbeatley @ 10/28/2007 4:44:31 PM

      You are right but if they become Turks. And it isnot the case in many ministries and army. When Kurds accept all rules and laws and never defend tehir rights they are equal to Turks in many cases, but not as you describe. Tell the truth, be brave and write down your feelings, what is in your heart, not what you dont believe but just say.

  • Posted By: rex73 @ 10/28/2007 4:08:22 PM

    Dear s??rs,yes T??rkish people turn to face than west.Because U.S and Europen every time said,I'm allied.Dear s??rs,T??rkish people listened every time.Why,PKK has carried some drug and weapons trafficing. then, they have invested their money to the some European banks.pkk has bought weapons, especially, Sweeden, Denmark, France...etc.I see you are never allied for T??rkish people.If you allied,cleaning this terr??rist activity.


  • Posted By: olcaykar @ 10/28/2007 2:14:48 PM

    PKK was created by some developed countries. PKK is just tool of some imperial powers. in order to prevent Turkey's development, some European states have been supported pkk as ideological, military, and financial. how can I know it? ??smail Cem who was the former Turkish foreign minister, told me when I was a student at istanbul bilgi university.
    ideological: some seperatist kurdish intellectuals have been educated in some European countries by giving scholarship for them. then, when they come back to Turkey, they have begun to seperatist propaganda. for example, Turkey assimilated Kurdish population, human rights, Kurdish language and education...etc.
    financial: PKK has carried some drug and weapons trafficing. then, they have invested their money to the some European banks
    military: pkk has bought weapons, especially, Sweeden, Denmark, France...etc.

  • Posted By: olcaykar @ 10/28/2007 2:12:56 PM

    PKK was created by some developed countries. PKK is just tool of some imperial powers. in order to prevent Turkey's development, some European states have been supported pkk as ideological, military, and financial. how can I know it? ??smail Cem who was the former Turkish foreign minister, told me when I was a student at istanbul bilgi university.
    ideological: some seperatist kurdish intellectuals have been educated in some European countries by giving scholarship for them. then, when they come back to Turkey, they have begun to seperatist propaganda. for example, Turkey assimilated Kurdish population, human rights, Kurdish language and education...etc.
    financial: PKK has carried some drug and weapons trafficing. then, they have invested their money to the some European banks
    military: pkk has bought weapons, especially, Sweeden, Denmark, France...etc.

  • Posted By: subrashankar @ 10/28/2007 11:17:02 AM

    There is a logical limit to expectations from a democratic and secular nation in a strategic location.Behave,or else cannot apply to every situation.The Turkish-Iranian relationship is not post 9/11 and it is not dependent on what the US does or mostly does not in Iraq.The US unfortunately has no knowledge of practical diplomacy though it can teach it best at its universities like Harvard and Tufts.One more foreign policy flop.

  • Posted By: analyst @ 10/28/2007 9:35:37 AM

    this issue is not related with rights of kurds bla bla bla....is US in Iraq for protecting the rights of Kurds ? What a moronic idea....This is business,oil business, US wish to make money, not protect the customs, languages of forgetten people of middle east...This is a business related with the re-distribution of natural resources in MEast...The fact is very clear...The problem is US would not to share the pie with the others and uses some idiots for protecting the resources againts its former ally.

  • Posted By: richardbeatley @ 10/27/2007 6:25:23 PM

    Kurds have been under pressure for centuries and they have been without a country although they live in the same region and have a population of approximately 20 million.
    The land has been divided among four countries and in these countries they make a lot of effort to survive. It is unfortunate that the West, epecially the UK, left them alone in the 1920s and all nations in the region declared their indepence except this nation of Middle East. What should be done does not sound simple. However, the UN and the West should give their full support to Kurds if they think peace has to come to the Middle East. The four nations where the Kurds live should think of cahnging their attitudes towards the Kurds in their countries. Unfortunately, they are not willing and it seems that they see the situation as a kind of terrorism rather than a Kurdish Issue.

  • Posted By: richardbeatley @ 10/27/2007 6:16:23 PM

    Kurds have been under pressure for centuries and, unfortunately, are not in a situation to defend tehmselves in four different countries. In last years, the Kurds who live Iraq have enjoyed tehir customs, language and political freedom among the insurgencies and bloody streets. If the US Army were not in this country, that would not be pssible, either. It seems that when the US soldiers leave Iraq, they will face many threats from the neighbouring countries.
    This means that the future of this forgotten people of Middle East is unclear and they will have to make a lot of efforts in order to survive and look ahead hopefully.

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