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  • Posted By: cyon603611 @ 11/02/2007 4:55:45 PM

    I'm a 41 year old single women and think that women today have come a long way from my grandmothers days were you are told to get married and then have a baby. This same topic have come up in my circle of friends and I told them that I would be willing to try having a baby that way since this will be the first one

  • Posted By: Adamsmom @ 11/02/2007 4:55:31 PM

    WOW... Dont like that ''HEMANS'' comment , First I am sure your mailorder bride thinks you are wonderful , she doesn't know the language enough to see you are illiterate . Anyway, I hope you are happy but with an attitude like that , I doubt it. Would bet you took her passport away also ? .I am a single 41 year old ''MOM'' and it does break my heart to be such . And no, I dont hang out at the mall.The cowboy I was in love with was all talk and no walk. I am very saddened and confused but I kept my son who was born May 5th 2007. I tried to include his ''DADDY '' all the way , I even had to endure his new girlfriend calling me at the hospital and alarming the nurses with her radical behaviour . While waiting for the specialist to deliver my ''stuck in the birth canal, his heart rate is dropping '' baby. My ex thought it would be an appropriate time to ask about DNA testing , his behaviour was so crass they wanted to take drug testing on my baby..Anyway my son and I are ok together the ''daddy '' doesnt even call and yes, I want child support, for me if my ex had been man enough I would have gotten married..Men can't be angry because women can do it without them and if they dont like working two jobs to pay child support maybe they should be a lot more careful where they leave their sperm.. Amazing how similair love and lust are in the dark , I just want to say ''thanks ''to the women out there , that make a site like this available .Cause I am still lost about what to do when my son wants to know his father. I mean what does my ex have to teach him , how to lie ? how to be two faced ? how to tell a woman what she wants to hear then abandon her when she falls for it all . For me I'll do this on my own and I am sorry if I hurt GOD but gentleman what was my alternative ?

  • Posted By: LithoMan @ 11/02/2007 4:55:31 PM

    Rustman - I agree. Sex is not a weapon, it's how marriage is forged in steel. No sex, no love. Best quote I ever heard, Men give love for sex, women give sex for love. If it is a weapon, then how can a guy be faithful and a womens emotional needs be met. It scant be a one way street.

  • Posted By: bubbusda @ 11/02/2007 4:55:20 PM

    I think when you are considering having a child. You must put the child first and do what is best for the child. In America, we often think of what will work or what will do. We need to change our mind set and do things the best way and not take short cuts. It is not best for the child to not have a father. That is all that needs to be said. It would be better for a woman to marry a good man that is a friend and have a child with them. Life is never perfect. We need to turn the TV off and wake up and realize that. If you want to have a child, do it the right way, don't be selfish. A child needs to have a father.

  • Posted By: RAIVAIN @ 11/02/2007 4:55:10 PM

    To all of the people that are bashing women for doing things different:

    You all need to stop judging and accept the things that make other people happy. If it were up to married couples to carry the human race beyond a few more thousand years we would be out of luck! FEMALES in nature be it human or otherwise, are capable of taking care of their own children whether there is a MALE present or not. You can see it clearly that in species that require two parents, when one leaves, the MOTHER is left with the choice and most choose to let their offspring die. Be grateful that humans do not take that approach and that WOMEN are CHOOSING to carry on the life of the species. Look around you. If women were not wanting to have a child we would all be extinct by WAY before our time.

    Men should take notice of the trends and if they are feeling that they are being replaced, men should take a closer look at themselves to find out what is making them less attractive to women in our society, and more of a sperm donor instead. Men should probably be a little more responsive in a positive way by helping women raise better men so that successful women do not go to sperm banks to fulfill our natural right to breed.

    I have talked to my parents, both happily married, about the possibility of having a child with or without a man present and they will be just as supportive as they are with both of my married sisters. If they think that I will be a good parent by myself, that is a good opportunity for me to ensure my genes are passed on to the next generation. ENSURING genes are passed on, belongs as a natural right for BOTH men and WOMEN!!

  • Posted By: RiTZ @ 11/02/2007 4:54:25 PM

    eurobee_82303
    Dont you realize that if something in marriage fails and they claim to be a christian it is because of the sin they were walking in. It does not mean that it is how christ lived. You see that is the problem with people who look at christians. They are looking at the people not Christ

  • Posted By: Dford @ 11/02/2007 4:53:44 PM

    I think it is quite interesting that the more rights and benefits women receive (either from the courts or society) the more they hate men. Stop the bitterness ladies.

  • Posted By: eurobee_82303 @ 11/02/2007 4:53:16 PM

    to everyone who keeps bringing up the point of adopting:
    I would LOVE to adopt. But it's just too expensive. In this market driven society where the adoption agency can take one look at your house and suddenly your adoption rates double, that's just not fair. And when they want to keep visiting you and charging for the additional visits, even though you already have kids and would be considered a no brainer to bring another one into your home. THAT"S JUST NOT FAIR. It's not fair when you're priced out of adopting.

  • Posted By: Gatinho @ 11/02/2007 4:52:47 PM

    I believe that by nature the woman has much more the need to be a mom than actually to have a man beside her. A man is much more the means to achieve the motherhood. The love, passion and whatever are the trick that the nature found to approximate woman and man to guarantee the procreation and the sustainability of the species. Nowadays the woman being financially independent and aware of that reality is looking for ways like a divorce after getting the babies or even being a single parent.

  • Posted By: Messe @ 11/02/2007 4:52:19 PM

    INSEMINATION IS EXPENSIVE. WHEN A WOMAN MAKES THE DECISION TO INSEMINATE, SHE TRULY HAS A DESIRE TO RAISE THAT CHILD IN A LOVING ENVIRONMENT, IT'S BY NO MEANS A FLY BY NIGHT DECISION. THE CHILD WON'T BE AN ACCIDENT OR SURPRISE, THERE WON'T BE LEGAL ISSUES BECAUSE A WOMAN DECIDED TO TRAP SOME POOR GUY FOR CHILD SUPPORT BY HAVING HIS BABY, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT CHILD'S LIFE WILL BE THAT MOM SO WANTED A CHILD, SHE WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO BEAR WHAT WILL BE THE LOVE OF HER LIFE. A MAN CAN BE IN ANYONE'S LIFE, HAVE SEX WITH A WOMAN, CREATE A CHILD, BUT A FATHER IS WHAT WOULD MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE. WE ARE NOT ALL AS LUCKY AS YOU LADIES WHO THINK WE ARE UGLY, OR SELFISH, AND CAN'T FIND A MAN. WE ARE INDEPENDANT WOMEN WHO HAVE NO ISSUES AT ALL WITH MEN. WE ARE JUST MAKING THE CHOICE TO HAVE A CHILD, A GIFT. HOW MANY OF YOU CHOSE TO HAVE A CHILD BECAUSE YOU TRULY WANTED A FAMILY, HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THERE FOR YOUR CHILDREN WHEN THEY ASK THE SILLIEST OF QUESTIONS AND YOU MAKE THE TIME TO ANSWER THEM. HOW MANY OF YOU PUSH YOUR KIDS AWAY WHEN YOU ARE TOO BUSY WITH WHATEVER?
    IF A WOMAN MAKES THE CHOICE TO WANT A CHILD AND INSEMINATION IS HER CHOICE, RESPECT THAT WOMAN AND HER CHOICE. NOBODY JUDGED YOU WHEN YOU HAD BABIES AND WEREN'T PREPARED, NOBODY INSULTED YOU WHEN YOU CHOSE TO STAY IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP POSSIBLY ENDANGERING YOUR CHILDREN. SOMEONE IS ALWAYS GOING TO MAKE A CHOICE THAT YOU ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT. INSEMINATION IS AN OPPORTUNITY, A GIFT FOR THOSE OF US WHO ADMIRE YOU WHO HAVE CHILDREN AND WANT THE SAME JOY.

  • Posted By: cowdragon @ 11/02/2007 4:51:54 PM

    Ritz:
    funny thing is I have read it. Many many times. Each time it becomes more horrifying. You must have read the bible quote calender or something (the one with a happy bible quote for each month) because the king james version and several others are all filled with hate.

    God sent mighty plagues upon an entire nation (Egypt). He then killed all the first born sons of that nation. He then sacrificed his only son (nailed to a cross I might add). He demanded that Abraham kill his own son on an altar. He claims to be omnipotent (that means all powerfull ;) ) and yet allows adults to rape children.

    Yupper, the main message is hate and fear and pain. No room for love in the bible.

  • Posted By: Anir @ 10/29/2007 4:53:19 AM

    It is hard not to notice the anti-male aspects. It is the utopian world of feminism where men don't exist. And to understand its implications for the society, look no beyond than todays society of African-Americans. Single moms, broken homes, no role model for the boys, more men in prison than in colleges. And because this time the victims are men, it never raises an eyebrow. Shouldn't men be given equal respect in this society?

    • Posted By: dheart @ 10/29/2007 12:26:04 PM

      anti-male posts... its the new america. raising a child needs both male and female parenst to be involved. it does not matter weather you are a single father or single mother. your child will need both. the reasoning is that both bring different nuturing charectaristics to the equation and results in a more balanced child. i for was raised by both parents until they divorced when i was 12 or 13. my mother did a teriffic job as all four kids are all well educated in an advanced level and im working on my second PHD. but as normal and successful as iam, i did not realize until now how much having a male in our house would have helped me in terms of relationships with women as well as men. its something that can not be measured and my sister says the same thing that she feels that her relationship with her husband which is good would have been a whole lot better if there had been that relationship with a male as she was growing up. we live in a society that says that as long as you have the financial back-up then u are good to have a child. but raising child goes way beyond the financial . bringin other males to help out if you are a single woman or other females if you are a single male only bandaids the situation. you really dont realize what the child is missing psychologically, because youa re not of that particular sex so you would never know. yes we live in a time that men are very irresponsible,but women are irresponsible too

      • Posted By: denada @ 11/02/2007 4:51:25 PM

        Some of these posts are so ignorant and twisted its sickening. Why would anyone use Jesus as a rational for getting married to conceive. Are you demented? Who was Jesus's father? I guess that would fall under "do as I say not as my mom did".
        I'm also a teacher and I see children having more problems whose parents are in a disfunctional miserable marriages or whose parents are of the disneyland type and only show face when their kids get into trouble. I have never seen children of older single mothers and gay couples suffer from the problems the children of "traditional" families are having. I fully support women going this route because I have seen over the years how children of traditional families are changing . Boys are now being raised to expect a woman to not only bring in half the income, but also to be physically fit like they were when they were 15yrs.old , and to be both the parent to the child as well as them. To all the women out there not settling for this,"GOOD FOR YOU and OUR SOCIETY".

    • Posted By: dheart @ 10/29/2007 12:27:29 PM

      anti-male posts... its the new america. raising a child needs both male and female parenst to be involved. it does not matter weather you are a single father or single mother. your child will need both. the reasoning is that both bring different nuturing charectaristics to the equation and results in a more balanced child. i for was raised by both parents until they divorced when i was 12 or 13. my mother did a teriffic job as all four kids are all well educated in an advanced level and im working on my second PHD. but as normal and successful as iam, i did not realize until now how much having a male in our house would have helped me in terms of relationships with women as well as men. its something that can not be measured and my sister says the same thing that she feels that her relationship with her husband which is good would have been a whole lot better if there had been that relationship with a male as she was growing up. we live in a society that says that as long as you have the financial back-up then u are good to have a child. but raising child goes way beyond the financial . bringin other males to help out if you are a single woman or other females if you are a single male only bandaids the situation. you really dont realize what the child is missing psychologically, because youa re not of that particular sex so you would never know. yes we live in a time that men are very irresponsible,but women are irresponsible too

  • Posted By: LithoMan @ 11/02/2007 4:50:28 PM

    cowdragon ; what? Abrahamic religions? WTF is that? Abram is the father of all of us. Thats what makes me laugh about Islam. But, thats a whole other debate. Get a clue. The only part of the bible that actual talks of punishment, is Dueteronomy. And everyone is stoned to death according to deathly punishment. Come on, quit misleading people.

  • Posted By: Rustman1980 @ 11/02/2007 4:50:25 PM

    Men, don't buy into the BS. Don't get cowed into an abusive relationship by some overbearing matriarch who believes a man's place is to feel ashamed and apologitic for being a man and actually having Man's needs. If someone is blaming you, or men in general, for the poor choices that THEY made concerning the people that THEY CHOSE to associate with, then they are not who you want to be with. We deserve better than that.

    I invite all the men on this forum to visit www.nomarriage.com and get informed.

  • Posted By: tiaramv2 @ 11/02/2007 4:50:23 PM

    i am 18 years old and raised primarily by my mother. Though my financial stablity may have been somewhat lacking growing up, i have no complaints. It was through this struggle that my 3 siblings and i have grown to appriciate what we have, as opposed to those i witness that had more "advantages." my siblings and i feel lucky to have come from the single mother situation. While she may not have been educated, she knew the benefits of an education and always pushed us to do well in school, and i am currently enrolled in washington state university. my mother was too busy providing for us to attend many school conferences, but we are not lacking because of it. i resent the teacher that mentioned how rough single parent children have it, for we have grown through our stuggles. i never had anything handed to me, i had to work for it. children with everything handed to them in childhood will not be able to function properly in the real world, without the advantages they had as a child. this is why we are the generation most likely to continue living at home until marriage. we are not to be pitied, and i am your typical, well-rounded college student, who can interact with my peers effectivley and have a normal romantic life, even without a father.

    and why is it that the majority is trying to tell the minotiry how to live their lives? is it really the married couple bussiness to tell a woman she should not be allowed to reproduce? and for what reason? not everybody is a christian, so not everybody is going to abide by the ways of the bible. christians are picking passages from the bible that suit their lifestyle and ignoring the rest.

    It is not that these women are man haters, it is just they they refuse to settle on a man. why reproduce with someone you dont love when this could end in divorce, anyway? and bring a child into a marriage without love? isnt it possible that this could also have some negative reprocutions?

  • Posted By: AgradZ @ 11/02/2007 4:50:22 PM

    What's wrong with some of you people? "How's a girl going to know if she's found Mr. Right if she doesn't have a father figure?" Are you serious? I don't want to marry a guy that is like my father. Nor do I need my father to tell me what kind of man is right for me. This society is based on choices and I'm going to make mine whether they be right or wrong and whether or not some one else agrees with them or not.

  • Posted By: roadam @ 11/02/2007 4:49:36 PM

    Dear Debbs: I read your post. You are illiterate. And you think you can raise a child?
    Roadam

  • Posted By: slave @ 11/02/2007 4:49:06 PM

    INTRAVIEWER, do you really believe that any God would punish an unborn child by damning it's soul because of the action of the mother? The mother failed the test not the child. Your time on earth is for serving others and being an example and help for those who are less fortunate. If you need to have a child then seek to care for those that have been thrown away. Most on the posts have said that being the biological parent isn't the most important thing. Well how about some action. If you are a sucessfull single person and want a child to love then adopt. Give a soul delivered a hand up. Your god will remember this and you will receive your reward in seeing the child you have taken into your heart and home grow into a caring person and maybe one less name on a role in a prision or even worse a cemetary...

  • Posted By: tiaramv2 @ 11/02/2007 4:49:01 PM

    i am 18 years old and raised primarily by my mother. Though my financial stablity may have been somewhat lacking growing up, i have no complaints. It was through this struggle that my 3 siblings and i have grown to appriciate what we have, as opposed to those i witness that had more "advantages." my siblings and i feel lucky to have come from the single mother situation. While she may not have been educated, she knew the benefits of an education and always pushed us to do well in school, and i am currently enrolled in washington state university. my mother was too busy providing for us to attend many school conferences, but we are not lacking because of it. i resent the teacher that mentioned how rough single parent children have it, for we have grown through our stuggles. i never had anything handed to me, i had to work for it. children with everything handed to them in childhood will not be able to function properly in the real world, without the advantages they had as a child. this is why we are the generation most likely to continue living at home until marriage. we are not to be pitied, and i am your typical, well-rounded college student, who can interact with my peers effectivley and have a normal romantic life, even without a father.

    and why is it that the majority is trying to tell the minotiry how to live their lives? is it really the married couple bussiness to tell a woman she should not be allowed to reproduce? and for what reason? not everybody is a christian, so not everybody is going to abide by the ways of the bible. christians are picking passages from the bible that suit their lifestyle and ignoring the rest.

    It is not that these women are man haters, it is just they they refuse to settle on a man. why reproduce with someone you dont love when this could end in divorce, anyway? and bring a child into a marriage without love? isnt it possible that this could also have some negative reprocutions?

  • Posted By: suzysuzy @ 11/02/2007 4:48:35 PM

    I am a 32 year old mother of 4 girls. Now, two of thses children are my biological daughters and two are my fiances daughters. Their ages from oldest to youngest are 13 (his), 13 (mine), 13(his) and 12(mine). I was engaged when i had both my daughter but ended the relationship when my youngest was 3 months old. My partner was married to his daughters mother and remained married until his girls were about 8 or 9. I single handedly raised my daughters and choose to stay single for 10 LONG years. I have been with my fiance for two years. Thats the history, now here is the point I would like to make.... My daugthers are caring, empathetic, bubbly, itelligent, respectful young women who (for the most part) well behaved while my step daugthers are delightful, cheerful, beautiful, disrespectful of their elders, cruel to people with issues ( over weight, disabled...), overpowering young women who are sometimes so amazingly, purpopsely annoying that most people around them need to retreat. Attention seekers. Now i should point out that i am not bias, really. i adore all of my children but i am not blind to their faults. My eldest for example can be snappy when she feels on edge and my youngest slams doors when she is angry.... His eldest talks like a baby to get attention and steals and his youngest admits to annoying people with endless questions and delights when she can see the frustration she causes....
    Now, my step daugthers were raised in a family situation with a mummy and a daddy. My children were raised by me with no male influence except my step father and occasionally their own father.
    I brought my daughters up with the pressence of mind to know that i was raising self sufficient, confidant, caring women who know their own value and self worth. To know that they dont need a man around to be all that they can be. I was ever mindful that i was raising future women.
    So it matters not who raises our future men and women, single or married, only that they take the time to do the right thing by us all. Single women who seek out means to fulfil their dreams are not going to raise weak, adults who are fratured by their upbrining. They will raise vibrant, go getters who will strive for excellence and do whatever it takes to succeed in every situation. Strong women raise strong children. Strong children become strong adults who will go on to raise strong children. How can that be bad...

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