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  • Posted By: Doc Becker @ 11/07/2007 3:07:40 PM

    Israel doesn't have nukes...they can't admit to that fact even if they did. Either way it's in Israel's best interest to have this doubt. Doubt that they have nukes and avoid the eventual arms race of the Islamic states and doubt that they haven't got nukes and run the mistake that they just might....it keeps things in a balance.

    The USSR and the US realized that neither side would win from a "nuke" war...this total destruction concept kept everyone at bay. Islamic fanatics believe that whatever happens is the will of Allah...so life to them on this earth doesn't really matter..nothing matters except Allah...how do you create restraint with that type of attitude? You don't...your only course of action is to limit military significant power (i.e nukes, WMD) to contain the threat. We (as the world) cannot allow this "roll of the dice" to take place and create an arms race that will undoubtly spread out of the regional borders...is it fair?....that depends on your perspective....if we lose friends on this issue then we don't really need those type of friends ...do we?

    We need to reevaluate our "rule book"...it's too thick and bulky for the new threat we face. In the past we always had the benefit of geographical isolation to cover our tactical and political mistakes...in this new world we live in we don't that ability. We have to "get it right" the first time or suffer the consequences of our ignorance. PLease look up in your history book under Nevile Chamberlin and WWII...that should create a new perspective.

  • Posted By: intention @ 11/07/2007 2:22:16 PM

    One day the United States might let the leash go; and Israel will handle our woes in the middle east. Until then we will keep them at bay for our own political intrests. Dont think for one minute that Israel attacked Syria without the OK of our leaders. Once the U.S. get what they want or needs they tighten up that leash again. One last point; The only reason Israel has nukes is because we allow them to. Remember this as Americans and friends of America...They hate you cause of who you are, they hated you since the day they were born and that is all they are ever taught.

  • Posted By: MaroMaro @ 11/06/2007 9:27:24 PM

    FunnyIsraelalready has NUCLEAR ARMAMENT ANDHHUGE NUCLEAR CAPABILITY and US takesnoaction. Israel makes USbelieve that Syrua "might" have a nuclear plan and we support their raids onthe already partly choppedoff by Israeli annexation of their Golan. Syria is poor and unable tosupport itself and because Israel is an enemy of Syria US supports Israel, withno limits...What are US interests here? WhyUS losesmore and more friends in the whole world? We should be intelligentenough not to fall again in another Iraq war. We are already being brain washed togo to war on Iran with dearer consequences than the war on Iraq!

  • Posted By: MaroAlone @ 11/06/2007 9:24:49 PM

    FunnyIsraelalready has NUCLEAR ARMAMENT ANDHHUGE NUCLEAR CAPABILITY and US takesnoaction. Israel makes USbelieve that Syrua "might" have a nuclear plan and we support their raids onthe already partly choppedoff by Israeli annexation of their Golan. Syria is poor and unable tosupport itself and because Israel is an enemy of Syria US supports Israel, withno limits...What are US interests here? WhyUS losesmore and more friends in the whole world? We should be intelligentenough not to fall again in another Iraq war. We are already being brain washed togo to war on Iran with dearer consequences than the war on Iraq!

  • Posted By: murvet.satir @ 11/01/2007 10:56:11 AM

    IsraeL have 200 Nucklear-Bomb on the FuZe!off corse iRAN will make a Nucklear-Bomb too.

    • Posted By: dsharon @ 11/05/2007 8:06:56 PM

      Yes, Israel is a responsible government that is responsive to the needs and enlightened self-interest of its citizens.

      The Iranian Khomeini-style dictatorship is an irrational theocratic war-mongering dictatorship.

      Were Arabs and Muslims to agree to settle their issues with Israel peacefully, they would have no reason to worry about Israeli arms. As they have a long track record of violence, intolerance and regional hegemony -- it is a WONDERFUL thing that ARE worried about Israeli arms.

  • Posted By: montgomeryjon @ 10/30/2007 11:52:36 AM

    The reason countries in the middle east are so desparate to develop nuclear weapons is that they are afraid of US agression. They see the energy crisis comming .They see Iraq. They see our inability to squash the greed of the gas and oil industry and how big business' lust for money is hampering our ability to develop new sources of energy. They see that we are coming for their oil. They know the only way to protect their way of life is to be armed with nuclear weapons. U.S. denial business as usual is the real enemy.

    • Posted By: dsharon @ 11/05/2007 7:57:20 PM

      What exculpatory nonsense...

      You don't think it might have something to do with the fact that every Middle Eastern Country save Israel and Turkey are DICTATORSHIPS;

      Syria is working on its Assad Dynasty; while Mubarak is grooming his son to take over the role of Tyrant. King Abdullah, while very nice and pro-Western is the 4th generation of a Monarchy.
      .
      Perhaps you also noticed that most of the Arab states -- except those glutted with oil (thanks to American and Western technology) are economic failures.

      Perhaps you'll be willing to concede that by in large Arab dictatorships are minorities ruling a majority: Syrian Alawis ruling Sunnis, Jordanian Hashemites ruling Palestinians; Gulf Arabs denying citizenship to
      the "foreign" resident workers who make their economy possible.

      But NOOOOOOOO!!!!! That isn't the problem -- it's only the fault of the Americans and the Israelis.

      Of course, I understand why, you don't have to tell me, its cuz you've been HUMILIATED (ya miskin).

    • Posted By: thinkability @ 10/31/2007 9:57:11 PM

      Firstly u must stae which middle east country. Because many of the middle east countries have power and are strong military wise. It is based on the law very unlickely that the US can take over are dictate any middle east country based on the fact that the UN would not allow it. I believe that the middle east countries with the nuclear weapons have them for other reasons such as they were always as history shows always in conflict with one another and all they have done has upgraded to nuclear weapons from stones and home made weapons. I believe however also that the Irag and afganistan have something planed and have brainwashed the citizens and they see america as EVIL. What the US and the UN should do is come up with a plan to reverse the brainwashing of the citizens to help overthorow any oppressors.

    • Posted By: rkarlberg @ 10/31/2007 6:09:25 PM

      Huh? Protect what way of life? Most people in the middle east don't get to share in the wealth. Almost every country in that region is a harsh dictatorship. I do agree that Bush has been too aggressive; but we want to buy their oil, how is that a threat???

  • Posted By: edwardnow @ 10/27/2007 9:18:27 PM

    Now the Zionist want to attack Syria as well? When will this end! America and its Media have no business fussing about these small countries in the middle east. I am sure the Zionist community with its racist agenda is convinced that Arabs are racially inferior and cannot be trusted with the means to defend themselves. Meanwhile we arm their aggressive neighbor Israel with ever more sophisticated weapons.

    • Posted By: dsharon @ 11/05/2007 7:42:55 PM

      1. Syria declared war on Israel in May 1948 and then invaded that country.
      2. Syria has never withdrawn its declaration of war -- on the contrary, it has prided itself on being the leader of the Rejectionist Front and vilified all, including other Arabs, who have made peace with Israel.
      3. Syria continues to implement a campaign of aggression against Israel, through its proxies Hizbollah and Hamas.
      Accordingly, what possible basis do Syrians and their apologists have to complain if Israel bombs a Syrian target? You don't like it... then advocate peace. If not, then enjoy the consequences of warmongering.

  • Posted By: 95bravo @ 11/02/2007 4:12:28 PM

    ...today i saw that arabic channels ran a t.v. special on the proper way for husbands to beat their wives ... no *** ... what a *** up region led by followers of a ridiculous religion and peopled by pretty much the ugliest people on the planet ... i mean really physically ugly , one eyebrow men with small little bodies and no doubt small little dicks too ... they are cowards when it comes to fighting too , every time some little *** over there makes enough noise to get the worlds attention he talks about the fighting to the death or the mother of all wars or the desert will run red with the blood of the infidels or some other silly *** but then they run when faced militarily and give up ... i was soldier and i clearly recall the jokes after both gulf wars about cheap ak-47s that had been "never fired and only dropped once " ... that pretty much describes the little *** over there ... pinko panther that means you too pal .

    • Posted By: abe12 @ 11/04/2007 9:15:20 AM

      to 95bravo
      i believe you as an ignorant facist when regarding to arabs and moslems well who invaded iraq and afghanistan and is loosing his ass and wasting money in killing innocent children simply to control the oil resources instead of asking for it lieing to the international community about nuke in iraq what about the massacres , rape nand burglary perpetrated by the american troops showing us what democracy is like and there is no such thing as arabic channels broadcasting how to beat your wife because women are respected and protected by our religion that punishes severly any violence on women stop sending these misconceptions fruit of your low iq and knowledge of other people and the insurgency in iraq is showing the world whose dicks are small we deplore the attacks on the wtc but so far who is responsible has not been clarified and israel insists on killing palestinian civilians and dubbing them as militants as if a 6 year old girl could be of any harm .moshe dayan an israeli said that no wonder the palestinians hate us we have occupied their land without any appearnt cause

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/03/2007 7:11:28 PM

    Then ALLOW them the parts needed for green power, kill the nuclear waste weapons and sell them the parts! Make 2 billion a day instead of spending a few trillion we don't have and 30,000++ dead and wounded! YES i said ALLOW them the parts, as they are not ALLOWED today by BUSH!!! My head is in ,this, country, making money for the people ,of, this, country, in ,this, country, not WAR making everyone else rich, by, this country!! As to building nukes inside this country, it's possible, only cause we are to busy trying to rule the world, and not paying attantion to our own country!! When it comes to the Middle-East the term terrorism applies to every country weather its exstreme or Governmental!!

  • Posted By: Paul H @ 11/03/2007 3:29:48 PM

    Everyone keeps talking about them attacking Israel ... terrorists would like to use a nuclear bomb inside the United States. So stop all this bullshit, "we shouldn't fight Israel's war for them" talk. We can't afford to have any of these terrorist states gain nuclear weapons. They would surely give bombs to those who wish us harm.

    Bull your heads out of your asses and smarten up people!

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/03/2007 2:05:42 PM

    WITHOUT RELIGION AND KEEP IT CURRENT!! WHY ARE WE THE USA RESONSABLE FOR ISRAEL, THE BEST ARMED COUNTRY THERE, WITH NUCLEAR MISSLES AND A HUGE MILITARY AND SO ON???WHY DO WE THE USA NEED TO [ GIVE ] ONE AMERICAN LIFE TO THERE CAUSE! WHICH IS VERY DEBATABLE AS TO, WHO, THERE, ARE THE TERRORIST?

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/03/2007 1:58:29 PM

    PRIOR TO ANY WAR!! THE USA SHOULD SEND ENGINEERS TO HELP IRAN BUILD WIND AND SOLAR POWER, AND RELISE THE WASTE CALLED NUCLEAR WEAPONS, DO NOT APPLY!! TO BAD BUSH DENIED THIS TO HAPPEN!! NO WIND OR SOLAR PARTS ARE TO GO TO IRAN-WHY?? IF THEY ARE GREEN, AND GET THE POWER THEY CLAIM TO WANT!! WE JUST SAVED 30,000 LIVES 100,00,000 WOUNDED AND A FEW TRILLION, WE COULD HAVE MADE SELLING THE RIGHT PARTS TO IRAN FOR SOLAR OR WIND. A GREEN IRAN AND IRAQ IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!! A NUCLEAR ISRAEL IS!!! TO BAD THIS KIND OF INTELL DOES NOT EXSIST IN DC!

  • Posted By: tarfooot23 @ 11/03/2007 1:51:20 PM

    when will the intelligently stupid wake up and realize extremists are attempting to destroy Israel and will decry to the world each time it is retaliated against? Today's world is exremely naive and sreet stupid!

  • Posted By: tarfooot23 @ 11/03/2007 1:49:41 PM

    When will the stupid wake up and realize nuclear materials are being made in an attempt to destroy Israel!!!!!!!!!!!

    What else can you say? It is always the uninformed stating a "new intelligence failure" or we are "killing the innocent", etc

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/03/2007 1:48:29 PM

    Attack Iran piss off Russia,who has a large military again, China, who we promised Tiwain to free them from?? China has 4 atomic missles aimed right at Tiwain, so there would be nothing left to free or get spare parts from, and has a very, very, large, well armed military! As it is Israel who arms them against the arms bann right under our noses, as we arm them?? Yes our military is much larger than the 160,000 in Iraq as subverted by Bush, our military is much larger than Bush leads us to believe but most are not used in Iraq, just re-deploy the same over and over, so when its over, only 160,000 must be discharged and medicaly treated as the plauge, by our own, as we do now to those who come home. [ touched] 95Bravo knows nothing of this, or he would be trying to make all life for Veterans livable, not unimaginable as 95Bravo, and Bush wants!!! Not now or in this century could we take 60,000 infintry and take on a 1 million man infintry which is on the other side of the wall in Iran, along with a large working Navy,Airforce,and so on, you know all the things we did not ever have to deal with in Iraq, as was all blown up with the help of the USMC. Who i wish a Happy Birthday to! So keep on disrespecting our own 95Bravo. Shows your alliance, and to who, and it's not the USA, that's apparent! Go back into hiding 95Bravo the world is far better off without you! So sayeth Alphonso Pussnuts, who Old Corp Marines know well!!

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/03/2007 1:02:04 PM

    95Bravo sounds like the kind who wants to take a huge batch of small pox infected blankets to the hospitals in Iraq for all the children we put in there! He Truly believes that walking into Iran will be as easy as Iraq?? To bad U.S.M.C. Special Forces Long Range Recon Rangers are not there to laze the targets, as they were in Iraq in 91, and those who lived, were left to die!!! Only 95Bravo believes in spending more than we paid for this entire country, on Iraq! [the people who danced in the streets when the WTC was hit including Israel,Iraq,Afganastain, Syria,Turkey, and everybody else in the Middle-East] They all danced, even Bush cause 3000 died, and 2.5 million employed. [not a bad trade puts it so clearly so i guess he is a never has had to kill to get home-ever!! Do not try again to tell a combat Veterfrom a friend] Can't wait for 95Bravo to meet an Iranian in battle! Or is he a has been, or a never was! I see he is prior military, but i also know alot of military who never stepped foot in the Middle-East. If he did as stated, BOTH Gulf Wars?? [we only had one] If in 91 he never fired a shot!! Well done to take credit, for the bombs my brothers in arms lazed to hit, not yours fool! It's apparent the new military has no love for the old as 95Bravo proves, and he is a pinko for following orders?? As you seem to disrespect all who did! So 95Bravo not only is your MOS that of a jackass but you have proved your the back end of it ! To all other 95Bravos, good work, come home, and this is the only jackass you have to worry about??? He knows nothing of death, recieving or doing. So he is the one and only example for you to focus on! As it was he,,, who made you all-punks, as he is!!! Marines forever!! 95Bravo learn your history, and check your own facts, cause your opinion is one reason we are bankrupt and in Iraq, and lossing, and don't have the ability to take Iran not in this century! IF SAVING 30,000 AMERICAN LIVES AND A FEW MORE TRILLION DOLLARS is pinko?? Then you need a wake up call, real quick, but i do not think you could handle it, and would meet my son over there, so he could read "last rites" to you as you die! Reason For Death-stupidity of, underestimating the enemy!!! Only a coward can reconise another coward, so now we all know what you are 95Bravo!! You are a discredit to your own country

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/03/2007 12:05:17 PM

    95Bravo was describing himself in the mirror! the amo we brought with M-16s were put back on the plane, and we were told AK-47 amo is all that is needed. not a weapon of population control as is the M-16, but they did not refuse satcoms, stingers, or training or getting armed either. So 95BRAVO as the coward you are where were you in 79, oh ya still in moms arms hu. well the real Marines were in the Middle-east arming everyone,Omar,Hussain, Bin-Lauden and 35 different countries worth of soldiers, or 135,000 freedom fighters as we called them! They with our help bankrupted the Russian gov and now they do the same to us and it's working cause we have a Bin-Lauden friendly president!! who helped his family out of the country on Sept 12, so 95Bravo army right, A-ain't R- ready for M-Marines Y-yet-right!!! yellow is the color of your heart not my sole you fool!!!

  • Posted By: knicknaime @ 11/02/2007 7:58:19 PM

    Hey, 95bravo. Were the people you described Moslems or Jews? You did not say.

  • Posted By: Pathfinder1969 @ 11/02/2007 5:12:51 PM

    Spoken like a spoiled, fowl mouthed, ignorant facist, 95bravo

  • Posted By: Pathfinder1969 @ 11/02/2007 5:11:25 PM

    spoken like a spoiled, fowl mouthed, ignorant facist, 95bravo

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