A New Intelligence Failure?

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  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/02/2007 2:12:39 PM

    oh boy an attack on a 10 yerar old unfinished nuke plant that has no hope in hell to finish!! oh boy to bad we have no lust to disarm israel as they can never do nothing wrong, ever, not for us. any deaths they willingly take in an act of revenge or genocide or terrorism it's ok with the un-united states! no wounder they all hate us as they follow there own laws not ours so they need to be dealt with asap by nuclear fire-right? Because they don't follow our laws we set and don't have to live by???

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 11/02/2007 1:59:56 PM

    PKBEAR
    Now you know why 79 hostages were taken, as the people of Iran did not want or accept our puppet gov we again interfered in politics we don't understand, and they revolted, so sayeth a Marine who escorted them from Iran after 555 days! To be honest after 555 days you would exspect tired, hungry and dissheveled hostages, not well fed, well dressed, and clean, and looked like they have been at a party at the Rritz! This week Iran STOPPED an attack on the UN-UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY TERRORIST! Now we know they are no enemy, just want power to use as we do! IT WOULD BE MUCH CHEAPER TO SEND ENGINEERS TO IRAN PRIOR TO ANY WAR OR ATTACK AND BUILD WIND AND SOLAR POWER FOR IRAN! THEY PAY FOR PARTS [MADE IN AMERICA] AND NO WASTE CALLED NUCLEAR WEAPONS! NO BODY COUNT OF 30,000+++ WOUNDED, AND A FEW TRILLION MORE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE!! THEY GET GREEN POWER. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NUCLEAR IRAN DO WE? THEN WE HAVE TIME MEN AND MONEY TO REBUILD OUR OWN COUNTRY!!!

  • Posted By: observer101 @ 11/02/2007 10:49:15 AM

    If it was a nuclear installation or not..Why hasnt Syria retaliated? Why are Isreal and the U.S. so tight lipped about it. Wouldnt they want to brag or point out that it was some type of hidden nuke facility that Syria was so secretly hiding? , whether or not WE knew about it isnt the point. That fact that it WAS found, bombed then buried so fast is .Im not a politician or a military planner or would I care to be....but it seems there is a message in this some where for a certain country that I would like to keep nameless...IRAN!!

  • Posted By: unlocktotalkdotcom @ 11/02/2007 9:28:17 AM

    Unfortunately it's a little too late for that PKBear. We are now at a point where we must go on offense more than ever. We must cut the head off of many snakes and wait for the next ones to crawl to the surface. If we wait too long to do so we will then be faced with the decision to nuke or be nuked. If Pakistan falls to Al Queida that will be exactly the situation our new president will be faced with. Nuke Pakistan, locate and destroy all of their unlocatable nuclear submarines or have 2 or 3 of our major cities wiped off the face of the earth. Nobody thought they could do what they did on September 11th. We should be very aware of the threat posed by Al Queida in Pakistan. I believe they have already infiltrated Pakistans military and political system.

  • Posted By: PKBear @ 11/02/2007 9:14:07 AM

    The U.S. has: overthrown Iran's leadership for a puppet; armed Iraq against Iran; Armed Iran against Iraq; armed bin Laden against the USSR; turned our backs on Iraq, Iran, and bin Laden when it appeared they were losing ground (don't want to get our fingers caught in the cookie jar, I suppose); created and armed Israel, and allowed them to annex Palestinian land; bomb their neighbors; possess nukes w/o signing the NNPT or properly declaring them; assassinate foreign leaders; commit genocide and apartheid; slaughter young children...shall I stop there, or are we beginning to realize WHY there is so much hatred of the U.S.? It is now time for us to suck up our pride, and make up for all of our wrongs.

  • Posted By: PKBear @ 11/02/2007 9:13:53 AM

    The U.S. has: overthrown Iran's leadership for a puppet; armed Iraq against Iran; Armed Iran against Iraq; armed bin Laden against the USSR; turned our backs on Iraq, Iran, and bin Laden when it appeared they were losing ground (don't want to get our fingers caught in the cookie jar, I suppose); created and armed Israel, and allowed them to annex Palestinian land; bomb their neighbors; possess nukes w/o signing the NNPT or properly declaring them; assassinate foreign leaders; commit genocide and apartheid; slaughter young children...shall I stop there, or are we beginning to realize WHY there is so much hatred of the U.S.? It is now time for us to suck up our pride, and make up for all of our wrongs.

  • Posted By: unlocktotalkdotcom @ 11/02/2007 9:02:54 AM

    The biggest threat right now is Pakistan. Al Queida will take control of Pakistan with a coup. It's only a matter of time. And when they do they will have Nuclear weapons. This should take top priority over Iraq, Iran, Syria, and North Korea. Something must be done and it must be done soon to avoid a nuclear 9-11!

  • Posted By: greenbasilisk @ 11/01/2007 6:34:53 PM

    well in response to Stephanie.. Of course they want to defend themselves, but these people have ben hating us for dcades.. they want to see us extinct.. and they cut our heads off on the internet. Do you really believe these people need sympathy. They need re-education!

  • Posted By: greenbasilisk @ 11/01/2007 6:33:33 PM

    well in response to Stephanie.. Of course they want to defend themselves, but these people have ben hating us for dcades.. they want to see us extinct.. and they cut our heads off on the internet. Do you really believe these people need sympathy. They need re-education!

  • Posted By: greenbasilisk @ 11/01/2007 6:33:17 PM

    well in response to Stephanie.. Of course they want to defend themselves, but these people have ben hating us for dcades.. they want to see us extinct.. and they cut our heads off on the internet. Do you really believe these people need sympathy. They need re-education!

  • Posted By: skd500 @ 11/01/2007 5:10:53 PM

    In my heart, I believe that the reason that Iran wants to engage in nuclear capabilities is that the Middle East is afraid of the United States coming in and deposing whomever it wants to at any time, and turning into a global bully, rather than a global policeman. It is a fine line, between peace-keeping, and greed-goading, and we border on the latter, especially in the eyes of the Middle East, I believe.
    I am no expert in this field, and I cannot pass judgment on our leaders, when I do not have all sides of the facts, I just surmise this in the readings of the articles over the last few weeks, and the Iranian President's comments, (and non-comments that he did not clarify), that I surmise the Middle East is trying to act DEFENSIVELY and NOT OFFENSIVELY, which is the way they are being perceived.....Who wants to end up like Saddam over there??? I think deep inside, these actions to arm themselves with nuclear weapons in their eyes will give them strength and a bargaining chip to bring to a table, and without it, they live always in a shadow of the threat of American control and hostile takeover. I try to put myself in their shoes and see it from both sides, wouldn't we, as a country be doing the same thing if the tables were turned??? Wouldn't we want our leaders to do that for us, and give us a feeling of being protected??? But I have to say, it is a very, very frightening prospect to allow a country who is developing such a hate for us to have this kind of power given the emotions driving it. The one who brings a peaceful solution to this will need to understand the motivation behind the emotions causing the problems, and I hope over the next few months, we continue to get a realistic view from both sides of the sphere, and that someone above realizes that it is cause and effect, and there needs to be a peaceful solution, really quick.......Sanctions, are a way of force, to force a will, and I do not believe that this will do anything more than anger the Iranian people even more, and in turn martyr the acts of the Iranian President and escalate his position. I hope President Bush can find a better way than showing his force on the issue, as I believe THAT is the real cause of the issue in the first place......Just my opinion, thank you for allowing it....Stephanie skd500

  • Posted By: TakeEmAllOutNow @ 11/01/2007 5:03:49 PM

    It's time to quit pussay footing around. Take out every single one of these nuclear construction sites in development, after providing the warning that the building country has thirty days to acquiesce to independent inspection by Baradei's organization.

  • Posted By: Want A Change @ 11/01/2007 11:38:04 AM

    We can't openly attack the N. Koreans for selling the technology to Syria because another multi-billion dollar buy-off is on the table similar to what we did 10+ years ago when Clinton was in office. They promised then just as they are promising now to disarm but they're laughing all the way to the bank while they develop nukes in underground bunkers.

  • Posted By: murvet.satir @ 11/01/2007 10:54:28 AM

    I'm a T??rk: israeL have a atom-Nucklear bomb but iRan will don't a bomb? hahahahah:D

  • Posted By: RCHarmon @ 11/01/2007 9:32:57 AM

    Well. If Middle East is getting worse and trouble for not obey our law. It is better of to start new World War 3 now. Because so many bad people as a crime all over in the world. I agreed with President Bush thinking about new World War 3. I am not sure which new president will be next. They need to be aware that Middle East are tough than we are.

  • Posted By: jhes3 @ 10/31/2007 11:22:54 PM

    it is not a inteligence failure people given that those goverments are doing everyting in their power to hide, mislead, confused, not only other countries but thier own people. Remember this goverments dont want the american goverment telling them what to do and they are trying to do anything to bring down the americans around the world . to top this we got a shady goverment in power right know that has not only lied to the american people (Mr. Bush) but has no real clue how to manage and solve this situation. yes is true this goverments have some right to have covert operations because the american goverment has them all over the world and yes not all the world need to know about them, Itz about human rights and how people are treated by this goverments, not the un or any nation should let a anarquist thats want only power and riches for him self desregarding that his people are dying from hunger and abused by his goverment like north korea for example thgat brain washes itz citizens. point is we dont even know the real time that our goverment new bout this cuz everything we know is contradicting it self . and this countries been at civil war for centuries we wont change that in 5 years by no means the most not get any nuclear weapon we as americans most find a deplomatic way not only to reach the people but to change the doctrine they have been engrave with for centuries

  • Posted By: westisbest @ 10/31/2007 5:13:29 PM

    Good Work TelAviv.

  • Posted By: JobezFamr @ 10/30/2007 6:32:29 AM

    pinkpanther87413, who are you fooling with a comment like that? Saddam managed to get mosrt of the cash loot removed and much of weapons like the big stuff out of Iraq before UN inspectors came and managed to secretely import some more stuff, right.

    >> Comment: what Hussain HAD was blow to hell in 91 as USMC lazed targets for our bombs to hit.

    Just don't make a hill orf beans grow faster moving all that loot out of Iraq hoping to cease an opportunity to escape with it or follow it out and later manage to man handle it again. Shoot the mess that was blown up was probably the laboratories contents before they could become chemical weapons or we would have seen much of it directed against Iraq and Israel by now. The reality is that mankind don't really need the Middle East and the management tends to believe otherwise, I mean there are more things that matter to everyone than the lifestyles of murderers and people that just won't get a better free lifestyle, it does make sense when you think about what they have to succeed with, murderers don't need to succeed in any other way and their fate is destined to death so what counts is they tried psychological training and that did not work so they headed for forced learning and if that did not work it meant death so something had to give between them and death was their ultimate sacrifice, see they die and have left death behind believing they shall reign forever fearing nothing like death so they shed it before they die.

  • Posted By: JobezFamr @ 10/30/2007 6:14:45 AM


    The Psychology in Philosophy

    >> Comment: Let these tribes in the Middle East fight each other, this is none of our business.

    OK, so some poor innocent American minding their own business gets killed, then another and maybe next 100 then 10,000 and mor than 100,000 and that's none of our business is it. The hell that brought you Saddam has not left the Middle East and tribe's are not going to change if you turn your back on them and allow them to do what they feal is their destiny. I hope you are not one of the ones that will allow a terrorist to live in your home, [jncc1701 @ 10/28/2007 2:16:13 PM].

    >> Comment: The truth may come out in 50 years - probably something like 'Israel bombed a Syrian treatment center

    for homosexual soldiers which included several Israeli spies who, it was feared, might talk too much'.

    Put if off on a human characteristic like homosexuality, much of the like is a definate no no and don't think your an exception or your death by their means will be honorable.

    Domestic nuclear facilities also are classified as 'underground launch facilities' which has nothing to do with how to cope with small incoming missile's. These things are best to figure out over a long period of time, it did not take a few days to figure out what a Ark was would it have taken you longer to devise a better plan to conquer the flood, yea, why not go to space instead?

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