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The Ghosts We Think We See

Normal brain functions, such as seeing patterns, make us more likely to believe in the supernatural.

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  • Posted By: Spiritrose22 @ 10/29/2008 2:06:12 PM

    I am a paranormal investigator. I invite you to join my team on one of our investigations.

  • Posted By: AfroCuban @ 10/31/2007 9:46:15 PM

    One day you WILL be held accountable. Fear God and repent of your wicked ways. Believe the Gospel, and Believe in God and Jesus Christ. Spirituality, Faith, Belief is Right and Good and Natural, and Pure. it has nothing to do with brain functions or 'seeing patters'. Its a gift of God. I pray if anyone reads this and God convicts your heart, call upon the Name of His Son Jesus Christ. I know there will be alot of white scoffers. they mean nothing. God will destroy them just like they destroy the Earth. Jesus Christ is the Only Saviour, who is Able to save us from our sins, wrong doing, wrong thinking- like this bullshit article of 'ghosts' they posted. Jesus Christ saves. The Holy Ghost is real. Be baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. God has given me His Holy Spirit by His grace. He gives me an understanding of Spiritual things. You will see how demonic and evil this world is, like these articles on newsweek. I reject this bullshit article. Its satanic and evil. Jesus Christ is coming again. Every eye shall see Him. You will not escape from Him. You can not Hide from the Creator. 'For whosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved' metaphysics is a lie. I hate your white devil philosophies. Jesus Christ saves. I DO see Spirtual things, you white devil. Not 'think I see'. Spiritual things are real. you white people are the ones who are fake.. *** dualism. UNITY is True. God makes us One Spirit with Him GODDAMN YOU ***.. 'shows up in children'.. because the KINGDOM of GOD belongs to little children. you white devils try to sound like its a disease or something evil. SPIRITUALITY IS GOOD. its PURE. its RIGHT. GO TO HELL ALL OF YOU WHITE *** YOU SATANIC BASTARDS

    • Posted By: etepen @ 10/31/2007 9:55:07 PM

      Wow! Since Jesus was not black - he was really a devil? Now that is eye-opening!

      • Posted By: Cap'n Rita @ 10/31/2007 10:10:47 PM

        Are we sure he wasn't? Black, I mean. Dogma was quite a thought provoking movie...

        • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/01/2007 3:13:36 PM

          Yes, we are. He was neither black nor white. He was Semitic, Jewish, Hebrew; specifically a descendant of the tribe of Judah. His genealogy is listed out maternally in the first chapter of Matthew and paternally in the third chapter of Luke, if you're interested.

          • Posted By: frodogenic @ 01/22/2008 4:07:51 PM

            Although I agree with you, Dogma is a good movie to have out there. After all, Jesus wasn't anymore white than he was black. :)

    • Posted By: roadrunner97 @ 10/31/2007 10:40:51 PM

      WOW, you really are a racist freak. I am glad I am not like you............it shows us how low your intelligence is.

      • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/28/2007 11:22:56 PM

        And that's not a judgmental comment?

    • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/01/2007 3:30:15 PM

      "You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:26-28)

      "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." (1 Corinthians 13:4-7)

      "Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited. Do not repay anyone evil for evil." (Romans 12:16-17)

      "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you." (Luke 6:27-31)

      "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful." (Luke 6:36)

      "When they came to the place called the Skull, there they crucified him, along with the criminals--one on his right, the other on his left. Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." (Luke 23:33-34a)

      I pray that you will read the words of the God and Christ in whom you claim to put your faith, and be yourself convicted.

    • Posted By: Cherry85 @ 10/31/2007 10:50:38 PM

      If christianity were the only true religion then why did it only begin to show up in the last 2000 years. Civilization has been around for several millenia, not the meager 2000 years that christianity has seen. Why did 'god' not guide the people in other parts of the world? If every man was equal then that should have been the case; it wasn't. Christianity was formed on the foundation of a hundred religions that preceded it. Then it was bent at the will of its creators to satisfy what they wanted. They put the fear of eternal suffering in the minds of the common people in order to keep them in line. I will give credit where it is due though; the greatest story ever told. 2000 years later and it is still believed by millions. People are too scared to educate themselves which is why religion still exists. They want the comfort of an afterlife and a reward for all those selfless deeds they do (but that was the point of creating religion to begin with now, wasn't it?) Christianity has its roots in the religion of -ancient- civilizations. Religions that predate christianity by thousands of years and originated on other parts of the globe. Religions that christians saw as pagan or unholy or wrong. Why though? Because ancient civilization worshipped the sun. God's sun. Every year in the northern Hemisphere the sun reaches the lowest point in the sky on dec 22. For three days it does not visibly move and then it rises. Directly above the sun is the crux. A constellation that resembles a cross. Hence the 'son' dying on the 'cross' and after three days is resurrected. In the bible, jesus was merely a parallel to joseph as well. began a career at 30, sold by judah or judas depending on which you're talking about. born of a virgin. Joseph was merely a prototype for jesus. Don't get me wrong though, I think religion was a great idea. It kept the common people under control. People who were uneducated and unruly. In today's society is is meaningless. Most people hold compassion for those who are unfortunate. We know right from wrong and what not. Religion has overstayed its welcome.

      • Posted By: cjsimon @ 10/31/2007 11:48:06 PM

        Prior to the past 2000 years, Christianity existed as a promise - the predictions of Christ are found in the old testament scriptures, still used by those of the Jewish faith, who continue to await the Messiah (see, for example, Isaiah 53). Jews are the older sibling of Christians, in a manner of speaking. What is recognized as Christianity today began with Christ's birth 2000 years ago, when the old scriptures were fulfilled. But the Living God, the Creator of the heavens and earth, who revealed himself through Christ, has been revealing himself from the beginning. And he has given us the mission of spreading the wonderful news about his forgiving grace to people from every nation, making these varied nations part of his unified family.

    • Posted By: Dragonrdrz @ 10/31/2007 11:43:32 PM

      I have to say it, this is the worst display of Christianity I have ever seen. This guy is showing how idiotic and hypocritical alot of so called christians are in this world. I bet he even thinks that science was created by satanists. Science has always been embraced by the christian church, ummmmm read some history.
      And what does this all have to do with white people? You dont think there are fake black, hispanic, cuban, asian etc.... people out there. Man you are messed up in the head, and heart.... And one more thing, the world is not evil, people are evil... and not all of them..... just ones like you that use the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ as a shield fo your Hypocracy and angst against everyone but yourself. This just p[roves my thoery that I have met more racist non white people than I have white people. I live and work in a predominatly black city. WOW this just boils my blood.... HOW DARE YOU

    • Posted By: roselking @ 10/31/2007 10:44:07 PM

      I am a Christian, and it seems like you are judging others. That is against what Christianity teaches. We should try to gently correct, and pray for people not condem them. That's God's job.

    • Posted By: josephjohnson55555 @ 10/31/2007 10:00:39 PM

      Dear afroCuban....Your hatred for white people is evil itself. You had better know that those who hate will not go to heaven. Nor will racists. You ought to meditate on that.....

  • Posted By: newstom @ 01/03/2008 8:11:05 PM

    You've done a nice job rationalizing ghosts away. They are real, and science can't explain them. When you see one, don't ask a scientist. They are not figments of the imagination. There is more going on in this wonderful world than is taught in school. I am a scientist.

  • Posted By: newstom @ 01/03/2008 8:02:54 PM

    You've done a nice job of rationalizing away something that does exist. When you see a ghost, science won't help. Your faith should be solid, though.

  • Posted By: kikiclaire @ 11/27/2007 1:26:56 AM

    I dont believe in ghosts and spiritual world,though sometimes things happen and leave me with questions.i believe what you hear from people make you want to believe they exist esp those who believe and believe only on that,i would say "when you imagine something and think about it for a long time it registers in your subconcious mind and become real to you"

  • Posted By: arash2evc @ 11/09/2007 2:06:28 PM

    Most phenomena happens around us have their own scientific reasons unless we refer them to what is called supernatural events. In fact supernatural events are those which we couldn???t find any explanation for them. Believing in some supernatural events doesn???t necessarily means you???re a skeptic person.

  • Posted By: dolphinevc @ 11/09/2007 1:17:41 PM

    I do believe in ghost and spiritual world, but If someone pay me to wear the sweater had been worn by a notorious murderer I would do it. I think in each religion, we have a different beleive for our god. As a catholic person I beleive that my body is being protected by Jesus.

  • Posted By: fr@meworks @ 11/07/2007 7:01:06 AM

    I think that people should read a very interesting and provocative book called The Timeless Mind by English author and artist Kathleen Fraser.

  • Posted By: Chamberlain @ 11/03/2007 1:58:44 PM

    Ghosts, seriously? If you want to see something scary, check out the profit increases after a hotel appears on some lame "Most Scariest Hauntedest Places" show.

  • Posted By: Original Blondie @ 11/03/2007 1:37:34 PM

    Continued...and Jehovah God (Psalms 83:18)the almighty, creator of this earth and all the heavens (1 Cor 8:5,6) whom we pray for his will to be done and his name be sanctified in the "our father prayer" @ Matt 6:9-10 and his only begotten son Jesus Christ who is a separate entity from God (Col 1:56-16), not part of a Triune God as most religions teach incorrectly, and who didn't found the Catholic Church, rather Christianity! Halloween???s roots, although not found in the Bible, can be traced back to a pagan origin. The pre-Christian Egyptians, Greeks and Romans all celebrated a festival for the dead. These ancients believed that on these occasions the spirits of the dead returned; therefore food was left for them and lamps were kept burning so they would not lose their way. Continued...

  • Posted By: Original Blondie @ 11/03/2007 1:23:33 PM

    Continued... and Jehovah God (Psalms 83:18) the almighty, creator of this earth and all the heavens (1 Cor 8:5,6) whom we pray for his will to be done and his name be sanctified in the "our father prayer" @ Matt 6:9-10 and his only begotten son Jesus Christ who is a separate entity from God (Col 1:56-16), not part of a Triune God as most religions teach incorrectly, and who didn't found the Catholic Church, rather Christianity! Halloween???s roots, although not found in the Bible, can be traced back to a pagan origin. The pre-Christian Egyptians, Greeks and Romans all celebrated a festival for the dead. These ancients believed that on these occasions the spirits of the dead returned; therefore food was left for them and lamps were kept burning so they would not lose their way. Continued...

  • Posted By: Frost845 @ 11/01/2007 1:19:39 AM

    TranceManiac. Science is used as a tool. Tools help us accomplish tasks. Evolution or in your words Evolutionists are simply people who use tools. If some large man in the sky created me and wanted me to believe in him without doubt and everlasting faith then he should have supplied me with better tools. =-(

    • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/01/2007 11:17:18 PM

      He gave you YOU. Look in a mirror and tell yourself you, everything you think, everything you are, everything you hope, every emotion you feel, is nothing but a freak biological accident.

      I think there must be a good reason that idea doesn't sit well with any of us. We all--every last man and woman that ever walked this earth--believe that we have some sort of real significance. Science and mere natural selection can't give that to us. So how do you explain our need for it? Are you going to write that off to natural selection too?

      This isn't an argument against evolution; for all I know, God might have used that method to create the universe. Such a concept isn't ruled out Biblically, that much I know. What I am arguing against is a godless universe. Unless you want to trudge through life convinced that absolutely nothing you do matters and that your very existence is a pointless accident, you're going to have concede to creation in some form.

      And again, you're propping up a straw man to knock down. All monotheistic, creationist religions have a considerably more sophisticated view of God than "some large man in the sky." If you're going to take on religion, take on real religion.

  • Posted By: Frost845 @ 11/01/2007 2:32:08 AM

    gorgeous, aesthetic, balanced, infinitely orderly universe is a lol. The universe has little rhyme or reason to it. Personal taste has always been a matter of opinion anways. The stories in the bible were falsified after people sharpened the skill known as " Critical thinking". My co-worker believes the earth to be 5000 years old. Thinks dinosaurs were alive with us but died. Thinks the Grand Canyon was made by the big flood. Believes in Adam and Eve and all that freaking BULLSH!T. I would rather have people simply believe in a Creator then to follow any organized religion which follows a book that is changed more then M.Jacksons skin color. I think when people stop taking ancient text literally and open their freaking eyes and open their minds they might see how things actually are.

    • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/01/2007 11:03:58 PM

      Science, my friend, is why we describe the universe as gorgeous, aesthetic, balanced, and infinitely orderly. It's simply not true that it has little rhyme or reason involved. Any scientist worth their salt will tell you so, no matter what they believe. The numerous laws according to which nature behaves, the incredible cooperation of your own body, the wonder that is your own brain, are all beautiful and orderly.

      As for the Bible; have you taken a look at the evidence for the other side? I assure you, it is there. One thing you will not be able to argue is that the text has significantly changed. The methods of preserving the Bible were much too thorough for that, as I'd be happy to explain if you're willing to hear. Archeology has supported Biblical history too many times to count.

      Critical thinking and science are not incompatible with the Bible. Neither is every word in the Bible intended to be taken literally. Genesis 1 can easily be read as compatible with evolution, just as easily as with strict creationism. Why? Because it's poetry. The point is, God is the one responsible, however he did it.

      Your argument is attacking a straw man that is far more ridiculous and far less subtle than actual Christian doctrine. If you're going to object, the intellectually honest thing to do is to find out exactly what you're objecting to. Christianity has a lot more to recommend it intellectually than you might think; don't judge the whole concept based on one person.

  • Posted By: josephjohnson55555 @ 11/01/2007 9:18:18 PM

    If someone is oppressed or possesed by a demon or demons, they need to go to a Catholic Priest, who will initially help them and if needed he will refer them to an exoricist priest assigned by the Bishop of their particular Diocese. The Catholic Church was instituted by Jesus and commissioned by Him, and has been around for 2000 years. Since the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus, it alone has the authority given by Christ to expel demons. While Protestant "Bible" churches may help in some cases by invoking the holy name of Jesus in prayer, they lack the Saramental authority of the Catholic excorcist priests who work under the commision and authority of a Bishop, the successors of the Apostles.
    In the gospel of Matthew our Lord said "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it". Although all Christians have the truth to a more or lesser extent, only the Catholic church, founded 2000 years ago by Christ Himself , has the fullness of the Truth. The Deposit of faith, instituted and given by Christ ,subsists fully within the Catholic church.

    So, if someone is besieged by evil spirits, the Catholic church is where they need to go for help.

  • Posted By: Syprate @ 11/01/2007 12:34:48 AM

    lol i just loved the "something can not make something better than itself" my god that almost makes me want to drop on the floor laughing. how do you think humans have developed technology. how do you think arrow heads and other primitive tools were made. those were made by taking a semi sharp rock and using it to create a sharp rock.

    • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/01/2007 6:12:08 PM

      Incorrect. These tools were made by a being which possessed intelligence FAR superior to either the semi-sharp or sharp rocks, FAR superior to even any modern computer. Yes, these beings made use of other, inferior instruments to obtain better instruments. But it's ridiculous to suggest that the semi-sharp rocks are somehow responsible for the creation of the sharp rocks. You might as well say that the chisel created Michelangelo's David.

  • Posted By: Person @ 11/01/2007 1:10:04 AM

    Science is humble. Religion is dogmatic.

    • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/01/2007 6:04:29 PM

      Isn't it just as often the other way around?

  • Posted By: sld21 @ 10/31/2007 5:53:55 PM

    To the people who don't believe in a higher power: Wouldn't you rather have some sort of faith while you're living rather than finding out that there is something more AFTER you die? I'd rather have faith. Honestly, who is it hurting? I'm not pushing my beliefs on you and telling you that you sound stupid so why do you do it to other people who have faith? The Milky Way is not the only galaxy, so who's to say that there aren't other living "creatures" out there and that there aren't ghosts (it's very hard to believe that Earth is the only planet in all of the galaxies that have living creatures)? Where does our energy go after we die then? Science can't explain it and science can't explain a lot of things so how can science say that there isn't something higher our there and there aren't things such as ghosts?

    • Posted By: thereal yeti @ 10/31/2007 9:55:52 PM

      "faith while you're living rather than finding out that there is something more AFTER you die?"

      I would rather live this life to the furthest. THen assume there is something better and take this life for granted, then find out there is a after life..

      Also your comment assumes the only option is a wrathful, angry, spiteful god, that will send you to hell..

      and that it is YOUR god. What if the muslims are correct? (assuming you are not) we both will be EQUALLY surprised, and I will be right beside you in the lake of fire :)

      • Posted By: frodogenic @ 11/01/2007 4:52:07 PM

        Welcome to the world of paradox. Hell exists BECAUSE God is loving.

        Sound weird? Hear me out.

        God created man with free will so that there could be a true loving relationship between us. However, this means he took the risk that we would instead choose to reject him, which we did. Because he loves us too much to force us to love him, he left this option open to us. What's more, he respects the decision we make enough to let it stand. But if we reject God, we choose separation from him; that is the essence of hell. You have only to look at the earth to see what happens when rebellious man gets his way. Right here on earth, God is still trying to get through to us. Post-death, he lets us have our way for all eternity. I suspect man will proceed to make hell quite horrendous. God knows just how awful this separation from him will be for us. Out of his love, he seeks throughout our lives to dissuade us from making that choice; but he also loves us enough to respect whatever choice we make.

        Difficult logic. But logical nonetheless.

    • Posted By: Aoi78 @ 10/31/2007 6:36:13 PM

      If I may, I would like to point out to you the flaw of the aspect of your comment relating to Science being unable to determine the state of energy after the death of a being. The Law of Conservation of Energy clearly states energy cannot be created or destroyed, that only its form may be altered, and that it constantly is. This is a fact of Science that has been proven in many, many, many aspects of life, and has yet to be argued logically. I am not sure if you refuse to believe this, did not articulate your thoughts correctly before communicating them, or were just not aware due to a lack of education, but this is true thus far. As for the outlook on reality with a Scientific approach, it is not said that there are not many aspects of the universe we do not understand, but that many aspects of the universe are indeed undiscovered and unexplained thus far, and that as of yet some things cannot be proven. As for many superstitions, many cannot be proven logically (yet), so there are those who are skeptical about them in general; this does not mean they are not possible, but only that they are not universally acknowledged as irreputable truth.

    • Posted By: chcacat @ 10/31/2007 6:14:26 PM

      I do not need to believe in a "higher power" or "supernatural" phenomenon to know that there are things I am not capable of understanding. ( I struggle with the concept of black holes and antimatter.) But I am satisfied with not "knowing" (or supposing) how everything in the world works. You may have filled in your void with a belief in a higher power, but I am willing to call it a void in my knowledge.

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