The Ghosts We Think We See

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  • Posted By: sarahcarla @ 10/31/2007 5:48:08 PM

    Perhaps his students didn't want to wear the sweater after learning that it was worn by a mass murderer, because now they wondered whether the sweater was clean; maybe the murderer was dirty (didn't bathe) or had a physical disease etc that, even though unlikely, was still lingering in the material. Or maybe they just didn't want to be known around campus as the one that put on the murderer's sweater. Regardless of age, students don't let things like that go by...even adults in the work place. I doubt seriously that most of the students thought that the murderer's essence remained on the sweater and they will now be affected somehow. Granted a few people may think that way. Maybe a strong sense of morals (morality) is more at play with the first example. Perhaps the thought of a murderer is so repugnant to alot of the professor's students and the sweater symbolized the murderer and that is why most put down their hands.

  • Posted By: joaquin79 @ 10/31/2007 5:23:24 PM

    Apperently there is a large group of people out there that have no faith. Yes, I understand that some may say that seeing isbelieving.
    But there are things that occour with out anyone doing anything. I have experiance ghsts before. I know that it tuely happens. Obviously not to everyone. How about telepathy? I have done it, and proven that it is real. Some of us are more sensitive to our soroundings. In our minds, we clearly see, and know what truely happens. you just have to pay more attention when it happens.
    Joaquin

    • Posted By: rkarlberg @ 10/31/2007 5:46:53 PM

      If you have telepathy, you can win $1,000,000. There are organizations out there who will pay this amount to anyone who can demostrate ANY psychic ability under reasonable conditions. Gee... I wonder why nobody has ever been able to win???

  • Posted By: Mandy Foster @ 10/31/2007 5:44:01 PM

    Science states that the first law of thermodynamics (often called the Law of Conservation of Energy) suggests that energy can be transferred from one system to another in many forms. Also, it can not be created or destroyed. Thus, the total amount of energy available in the Universe is constant. Einstein's famous equation (written below) describes the relationship between energy and matter:

    E = mc2
    In the equation above, energy (E) is equal to matter (m) times the square of a constant (c). Einstein suggested that energy and matter are interchangeable. His equation also suggests that the quantity of energy and matter in the Universe is fixed.

    So, if energy cannot be created or destroyed (according to Einstein), what happens to the soul (i.e., energy) when the body dies? The above law of thermodynamics suggests that it is merely transformed.

    200 years ago, people thought Van Leeuwenhoek was insane when he suggested that tiny creatures invisible to the naked eye were responsible for disease. Then he proved the existence of bacteria through the use of the microscope. Allow me to point out that he was not a scientist, but an uneducated tradesman with an open mind and endless curiosity.

    What I am saying is that I see a parallel between the 17th century university-educated scientists who mocked Van Leeuwenhoek for believing in something he could not see and the 21st century scientific skeptics who make fun of people for their beliefs in something that can???t be quantified.

    I personally believe in ghosts, having witnessed one. However, I am not stating a case for ghosts here. This is simply a request for people to keep an open mind on the subject.


  • Posted By: kaustin @ 10/31/2007 5:40:56 PM

    I have had unexplained experiences since the age of 7, when I was being tapped on the back in my sleep. As the tapping grew harder and more urgent and finally started pulling on my shoulder, I was fully awake and set up quickly and turned around, but nothing was there. Since then I have had many experiences, not on a regular basis, but spread out here and there over many years. When I was 14 my name was whispered very loudly and slowly directly into my ear, like someone was leaning right up to my ear from behind me. It was broad daylight and I was dusting my room so I could go to the mall with a friend. Of course, when I turned around, nothing was there. One time at the same house my bedroom door opened up abruptly, hit the dropped ceiling, and shimmied back to. The only ones in the house were mysef, my friend who was spending the night (and was a witness to this), and my infant brother upstairs. My parents had gone out and had not yet returned. Many other strange experiences happened in that house where we lived from the time I was 11 until 16. In more recent years my husband and I and our infant daughter lived in a house built in 1900 and we both had a few experiences there, even though my husband has always been a skeptic. I was the only one up late one night and had just turned off the TV in the living room and was walking through the dark to the bathroom. Just before I reached the bathroom, I heard a voice up high (like from a very tall person) at the end of the hallway say, "Hey you!!" real loud. It startled me and then I thought maybe my husband had the TV on in the bedroom. I opened our bedroom door and he was sound asleep with no TV on. A few days later my husband was awakened by a tapping on his foot at the end of the bed. He thought it must be the cat, but when he looked, there was nothing there, and the cat was curled up between us sleeping. A few days later there was a very loud two knocks on the front door, way up high, just as my husband was passing by and I was in the same room. He opened the door immediately, and there was no one there. That night I was in the bathroom getting ready to wash my face and there were the same two abrupt loud knocks on the bathroom door, way up high.. I opened it right up wondering why my husband knocked so high up. He was not there, and no one else was in the house. These are just a few unexplained experiences I've had. These never happen when I'm thinking about something scary. They always are totally unexpected. How could anyone explain away these happenings?

  • Posted By: rkarlberg @ 10/31/2007 5:39:48 PM

    Sorry, but there are no such thing as ghosts, ESP, angels, etc. This is all just a wish for Something for Nothing. No psychic phenomena has ever been verified; no ghost, god, angel or demon except by people who really wanted to believe. Why can't people just enjoy the life we have, there are so many positive things in the world, if we just put in some effort.

  • Posted By: proxyrincess @ 10/31/2007 5:39:13 PM

    Were can you can see a ghost in florida.?

  • Posted By: Tiffmichn @ 10/31/2007 5:39:09 PM

    Funny how evidence of the supernatural and spirits have been common knowledge to some for years, but it takes until 2007 for one scientist to come up with a "biological explanation" and we are supposed to throw all of the other evidence out the window. Maybe science can explain how a branch on the window sounds like the boogeyman, but not how cancer patients heal after prayer, psychics help solve murders, or houses shake when an exorcist arrives. People are more keen and observant than science gives us credit for. However, we lose credibility in the fact that we are easily deceived into believing spirits are whatever we want them to be, rather than facing the music of what they really are.

  • Posted By: Lafem @ 10/31/2007 5:38:58 PM

    Dreams that come true: I had a dream of the death of a brother, two weeks later he die I had not told anyone of the dream until after he had died. when I was 14 my father died and I had told everyone he was going to and they told me I was being a brat and should not say things like that but I knew it was going to happen. My mother did a year later and I also knew that she was going to die. I dont know how I know these things but I know when things are going to happen, however I cant just pick things out and know they are going to happen. Its more like a feeling when Im awake or it comes to me in a dream like with my brother. Keep in mind that I was under the age of 16 at the time of these deaths.

  • Posted By: mts881 @ 10/31/2007 5:38:37 PM

    Here's one more for the "weird happenings" vs. brain chemistry debate -

    My friend's younger brother died several years ago in a car accident. I was friends with him growing up, but hadn't seen him or been in close contact for a few years before his accident. A few months after the accident, I started having weird dreams. In them, he would be talking directly to me, or I would be in a group of friends and he would be there, but no one else could see him.

    After the third or fourth dream, I was sitting alone and thinking, "Why am I having these dreams?". I distinctly heard, "I want you to look after my friends". It should be noted that I was an engineering student at the time, and not the type of person predisposed to hearing random voices.

    A year later I met a girl who I had never known (she had lived outside the US most of her life) but who had known the friend who had passed away. We started talking about him, and she recounted the same experience, reciting verbatim the words "I want you to look after my friends". I hadn't shared the story with anyone, nor had I prompted her in any way, so it came across as a very strange experience.

    I'm not sure what my internal brain chemistry levels were doing at the time, but I'm pretty sure they had nothing to do with the experience. I obviously cannot prove where people go / what happens at death, but it is evident to me that it is more complex than dopamine and imagination.







  • Posted By: annemart @ 10/30/2007 1:52:06 AM

    The title of this article pre-supposes that once science has found a way to explain instances of specific phenomena, then all similar instances observed are explained and hence 'non-psychic'. However, multiple explanations for the same observation(s) may actually exist in many cases. so the possibility of there being real psychic phenomena cannot easily be discounted.
    In a similar vein, proving something cannot happen is actually impossible: the prover would have to show unequivocally that the 'something' cannot occur in any known part of the universe, and one could easily apply this test to Astronomy. For example, how easy would it be for a researcher to generate and physically measure a sustained temperature of 100-200 million C (the core temperature of a star) in a laboratory? Yet, the temperature of a star is a "known" fact, just as 40 years ago, dinosaurs were 'known' to be cold-blooded, and yet are considered increasingly to be the warm-blooded ancestors of birds.
    Either way, science is actually a court of law: if you accept the 'facts' presented by the prosecution, you must reach a verdict of guilty, othewise there is sufficient doubt in your mind and you decide 'not guilty'. The same is true for this article: if you need evidence to support your debunking of psychic stuff, then go no further, otherwise keep an open mind. This article was written with 'debunk' in mind, hence the title.

    • Posted By: cassdenata @ 10/30/2007 8:56:43 AM

      Science also can't disprove that the world is run by a giant spaghetti monster, that UFOs disproportionately visit trailer parks in the midwest. If there is a vision of a ghost, the first, safest explanation to believe is that it is a product of the mind. We know that hallucinations are common in humans, it is becomingly exceedingly clear that all consciousness is a product of the brain and there is nothing to survive after death. But a fair scientist will continue to try to find evidence of ghosts. If after centuries of testing, no apparition can be found, why should any sane person believe in it.

      • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 12:23:46 PM

        ahhh yes, nothing like using satire to validate one's self.

        • Posted By: caspian2007 @ 10/31/2007 5:35:24 PM

          cassdenta, I read through all your comments, and you seem the most clear thinking person out of the bunch so I will ask you my question. You said, "it is becomingly exceedingly clear that all consciousness is a product of the brain and there is nothing to survive after death." From my amatuer studies of the brain, I believe this statement to hold some truth. My question is, why do people fear this so much. The purpose of fear , it seems, is to provide a sense of caution when an avoidable danger is imminent. Some people have a fear of heights. That is reasonable, because falling hurts. It is useless to fear the inevitable. If it is all mankind's fate to cease to exist, then why does the thought of that drive so many people to panic? My own fear of not existing intrigues me very much. Is it some perveted form of my instinctual fear of not wanting to die? Why do you think people need to believe in the eternal existence of their consciousness. Please do not think this is some kind of challenge. I would never be so bold as to say I had the answer to the existence of man. I do believe in God and in Jesus, but not because I want to alleviate this fear by doing so, but because I beleive in Jesus's message on how to treat others.

        • Posted By: cassdenata @ 10/30/2007 1:34:56 PM

          I know you are being sarcastic but sometimes I think that satire can cut through an issue much more precisely than long bouts of logic. Whenever someone mentions that evidence for god is lacking but science can't disprove god, I always mention Bertrand Russel's teapot analogy, which hypothesizes about an extremely small teapot circling the earth out in space. It is so small and far away that you can't disprove him but you aren't going to live your life based on the assumption that there is a teapot circling the earth.

          • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 1:45:33 PM

            Absolutely valid observation and completely understandable for those who haven't had the fortune to experience. Totally understandable. If you wouldn't be too freaked out by witnessing either God or ghosts, i do pray you get that opportunity in your lifetime. There's no greater comfort in knowing.

            • Posted By: cassdenata @ 10/30/2007 2:43:54 PM

              How condescending and self-assured. It is quite ironic to be talked down to by someone who believes in mystic apparitions and a sky-daddy that controls all.

              • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 3:36:01 PM

                PS - I think logic shows you're the one who's self-assured. I'm assured by a teapots circling the Earth and mystic beliefs.

                • Posted By: shelovesit @ 10/31/2007 5:12:45 PM

                  What's wrong wiht being self-assured? Isn't that the point of believing in something?

                • Posted By: sheloves @ 10/31/2007 5:10:34 PM

                  What's wrong wiht being self-assured? Isn't that the point of believing in something?

              • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 2:54:21 PM

                Oops, disregard, thought you were replying to my response about physics and supernatural coexisting... Wow. I wish something good for you and you attempt to provoke me with personal attacks. Going to call me names next? All I can say is "how ignorant, rude, and closed-minded." Good day.

              • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 2:48:45 PM

                No, it's simply logical to say they require each other to exist. lol

    • Posted By: oak23 @ 10/30/2007 8:33:43 AM

      Science is not imprecise, but the popular view of it is. Few non-scientist Americans, particularly, seem unable to distinguish between hypothesis, theory and fact. Hence we find people arguing hypothetically about fact (multiple causes for single effect) and ascribing a factual basis to theory (cold-blooded dinosaurs). My apologies, annemart, but you can't have a world where both the laws of physics and supernatural phenomena coexist.

      • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 2:14:25 PM

        LOL you better believe physics and what we call the supernatural coexist.

  • Posted By: ad1975 @ 10/31/2007 4:49:29 PM

    I believe in ghost, this ability to see ghost runs in my family. Ghost look like any normal person except theyre see through. I myself have seen several but only see them for a few seconds then they disappear.

    • Posted By: angel58 @ 10/31/2007 5:33:35 PM

      I too have seen things I cant explain. And I was raised a christian, which goes against all I was taught. But I have seen too many things and I have to agree there is somehting out there. We are not alone. And I think Its great.

  • Posted By: WitchyMel @ 10/31/2007 5:33:08 PM

    The same goes for believing in God . Someone can tell you that it's true but until you have your own personal experience, it is only an opinion of someone else or something you know you're 'supposed' to be believe. But when you reach out for help from God and you receive it, then it becomes fact to you.

  • Posted By: Teresalp @ 10/31/2007 5:31:52 PM

    This article does touch on that some people are more receptive to 'seeing' patterns due to dopamines. We are all very similar and very different in terms of physiology. It's kind of thought provoking to think that there are systems of energy that are random and that appear as a human. I wonder if anyone has ever seen an animal ghost? I wonder if there has ever been a group siting of a ghost or spirit? It seems as though these experiences happen when a person is alone. Could that be due to people distracting one another from seeing something that has physical form? These kinds of articles are interesting but only create more questions.

  • Posted By: believeintheone @ 10/31/2007 4:55:21 PM

    There is NO SUCH THING AS A GHOST ! Satan's way of leading us away from the truth. GOD say's that we die, then we sleep the sleep of Death. Satan would have us believe that part of us live on,Which is a Lie. Satan and his fallen Angels are fooling allot of people out there.

    • Posted By: angelINwa @ 10/31/2007 5:08:18 PM

      Why are you so quick to judge what is real and what is not? Could Jesus be a ghost because he came back from the dead, how bout them apples!!

      • Posted By: tanita @ 10/31/2007 5:31:25 PM

        Jesus' BODY was resurrected from the death. He then went to the apostles so that they could see his scars. His body was resurrected not only his spirit

      • Posted By: tanita @ 10/31/2007 5:30:22 PM

        Jesus BODY was resurrected, not only his spirit, he then went to the apostles so that they could TOUCH them to see it was him... they didn't touch his spirit, they touched him

    • Posted By: amethyst_47 @ 10/31/2007 5:15:42 PM

      I'd love to know which version of the Bible you've read. Evidently the version that has non-existant grammar and creative spelling. There are dozens of "supernatural" events in the Bible. When a Christian witnesses a supernatural event, it's a miracle, but if you don't align yourself with a church, then you're being led by Satan. Interesting.

    • Posted By: angelINwa @ 10/31/2007 5:11:27 PM

      Didn't Jesus rise from the dead after dying on the cross? That could be considered a ghost. This is crazy, why do you push your beliefs, which are unfounded, on people. Plus, if you believe in Heaven then you are not sleeping the sleep of death at all, you are a spirit in Heaven which means a part of you lives on. So that is a contradictory statement.

  • Posted By: WitchyMel @ 10/31/2007 5:29:32 PM

    Question: How would Satan benefit from convincing people that part of them would live on after death? I would think that this would favor God's side more since people are more inclined to do good. Also, even in the Bible, Satan doesn't have to lie, he simply tempts. He works in accordance with the laws of God, not outside of them. Anyways, fear is your worst enemy and the biggest trick the devil has every played was to make someone scared of him....if he even existed. I know that ghosts and other supernatural entities exist but most people have to see and feel it for themselves to be convinced. AbdTo be con

  • Posted By: BNSFrailfan @ 10/31/2007 5:28:29 PM

    I agree with roney427.

  • Posted By: WitchyMel @ 10/31/2007 5:28:17 PM

    Question: How would Satan benefit from convincing people that part of them would live on after death? I would think that this would favor God's side more since people are more inclined to do good. Also, even in the Bible, Satan doesn't have to lie, he simply tempts. He works in accordance with the laws of God, not outside of them. Anyways, fear is your worst enemy and the biggest trick the devil has every played was to make someone scared of him....if he even existed. I know that ghosts and other supernatural entities exist but most people have to see and feel it for themselves to be convinced.

  • Posted By: stevedb227 @ 10/31/2007 5:26:46 PM

    In July 2004 my mother passed away in Sydney, Australia. I live in St. Louis. I said my final goodbye to her on the phone prior to my flight home. The first night staying at my parents home I had just turned off the light to go to bed and my mothers spirit passed through the wall, looked at me and smiled. I started to talk to her but she turned and disappeared. While I have an open mind on the subject and until then never had any experiences with the supernatural this changed my mind. I had mixed feelings too. I was so happy to see her but was also terrified at what I had just seen. I layed there for some time before I could even think of sleeping. Just food for thought.

  • Posted By: stevedb227 @ 10/31/2007 5:26:20 PM

    In July 2004 my mother passed away in Sydney, Australia. I live in St. Louis. I said my final goodbye to her on the phone prior to my flight home. The first night staying at my parents home I had just turned off the light to go to bed and my mothers spirit passed through the wall, looked at me and smiled. I started to talk to her but she turned and disappeared. While I have an open mind on the subject and until then never had any experiences with the supernatural this changed my mind. I had mixed feelings too. I was so happy to see her but was also terrified at what I had just seen. I layed there for some time before I could even think of sleeping. Just food for thought.

  • Posted By: arreis338 @ 10/31/2007 5:25:20 PM

    I find it hard to categorize the way the human mind works. Experiences we go through have an impact on us both physically and mentally. These descrepencies may enable one to "see" or "perceive" out-of-this-world occurences. Who really has the authority, nevertheless, audacity to proclaim his or her beliefs are the only correct ones floating around? It is up for each independent person to decide whether they believe in the supernatural.

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