The Ghosts We Think We See

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  • Posted By: JadePersuasian @ 11/01/2007 10:04:27 AM

    For those interested in viewing a true life encounter......

    Discovery Channel - Series : A Haunting "Casa de los Muertos" - a documentary on one of Guitarist Eddie Benitez's hauntings in Arizona.

    Nov 17, 2007 Saturday - Disc Channel - 4pm EST
    Nov 27, 2007, Tuesday - Disc Channel - 2pm EST

    Gold Album Jazz "Mystery Man", Eddie Benitez; his first concert was at the Madison Square Garden in front of 20,000 fans of Latin/Jazz. Also, performing with such greats as Barry White, George Benson, and more... to be on Discovery Channel, premiering his extraordinary life.

    "Fans claiming to see angels on stage"...., Legendary guitarist Eddie Benitez played in a private show in Phoenix AZ, this was the topic of discussion by several people in attendance after the show in 2003.

    The mystery of Eddie Benitez started in 1976 when he signed with Fania/CBS records, with his first release "Nightlife" at age 14, 6 months later another hit, "Essence of Life", both went gold as he performed/mentored with legendary stars, Tito Puente, Mongo Santamaria and many others, throughout his young music career.

    His performing career came to a sudden halt when Eddie was diagnosed with Hodgkins at a young age of 23. This changed his life forever as he survived the cancer and took time off to reflect on life and spirituality. He continued to write music over the years. His music is a blend of Smooth Jazz, NewAge, and Latin written from his heart that filled with love, passion, and devotion. Throughout his life, Eddie has had many spiritual visions while overcoming a heart attack and an unexplained 3 day coma. Eddie was under investigation for massive healings in his Florida home. "There is no healer, but faith in God, Christ and in yourself" Eddie told the investigators.

    One of Eddie's spiritual hauntings was documented and recreated for the Discovery Channel series "A Haunting" - Casa de los Muertos". The special show will be featuring Eddie's music from past to present. Collaboration with Reknown guitarist, Paul "Sequence Ferguson" on a couple of Eddie's new tracks. His son, Julian Sosa will be portraying Eddie's oldest son in the show.

    Dec 2008, New CD "Lover's Never say Good-bye" to be released. The new hit single, "They Cry" available for download.

    Visit Eddie Benitez Julian Sosa and Paul "Sequence" Ferguson at MySpace -

    http://myspace.com/eddiebenitez
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  • Posted By: Shirleymoates @ 11/01/2007 9:56:58 AM

    Posted in answer to: frodogenic???s comment @ 10/31/2007 11:41:49 PM that (That which does not belong to the natural world cannot be understood by studying the natural world)
    I used to agree with you butllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;by the help of some other expositors of the Bible I know this is Not quite true???because The Principles of the Spiritual world were understood by the centurion by the things which he observed in the physical world???in that he was able to give orders and they were obeyed in the realm of his authority ???so he extrapolated??? from that that things ought to operate in the spiritual world like they do in the physical world. ie???if I give an order in the natural world it is obeyed because I am the absolute boss of 100 soldiers so I deduct /deduce from that that if you Jesus, whom I have heard by report to be obviously the absolute boss of things unseeable and untouchable, give an order to these invisible minions, they will obey you??? just as my soldiers obey me. So???only say the word he said???and I believe my servant shall be healed!!???
    ??? Matthew 8:7 And Jesus said unto him [the centurion], I will come and heal him.
    8 [He] answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof???: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
    9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goes and to another, Come, and he comes; and to my servant, Do this, and he does it.

  • Posted By: babu11 @ 11/01/2007 3:48:18 AM

    I come from Nepal. I do believe on the arguments provided but at the same time I have seen in mountains some shadows be fallen upon animals and humans ( as kids I have seen this). As a result not only human but also animals fallen sick. Later they needed witch doctor to cure them. how do you justify these things?

  • Posted By: Original Blondie @ 11/01/2007 3:32:12 AM

    Cont'd...

    The Catholic Encyclopedia defines All Saints??? Day as a feast to ???honour all the saints, known and unknown.??? At the end of the second century, so-called Christians began to honor those who had been martyred for their faith and, believing that they were already with Christ in heaven, prayed to them to intercede on their behalf. A regular commemoration began when on May 13, 609 or 610 C.E., Pope Boniface IV dedicated the Pantheon???the Roman temple of all the gods???to Mary and all the martyrs. Markale comments: ???The Roman gods left their place to the saints of the triumphant religion.???
    The change of date to Nov came under Pope Gregory III (731-741 C.E.), who dedicated a chapel in Rome to all the saints and ordered that they be honored on Nov 1. Exactly why he did this is unknown. But it may have been because such a holiday was already being celebrated on this date in England. The Encyclopedia of Religion points out: ???Samhain remained a popular festival among the Celtic people throughout the christianization of Great Britain. The British church attempted to divert this interest in pagan customs by adding a Christian celebration to the calendar on the same date as Samhain. . . . The medieval British commemoration of All Saints??? Day may have prompted the universal celebration of this feast throughout the Christian church.???
    Markale points out the increasing influence of Irish monks throughout Europe at this time. The New Catholic Encyclopedia also observes: ???The Irish often assigned the first of the month to important feasts, and since November 1 was also the beginning of the Celtic winter, it would have been a likely date for a feast of all the saints.??? Finally, in 835 C.E., Pope Gregory IV made this festival universal.
    As for All Souls??? Day, on which prayers are recited in order to help souls in purgatory attain heavenly bliss, this holiday was fixed on Nov 2 during the 11th century by the monks of Cluny, France. While All Souls??? Day is ostensibly a Catholic holiday, it is clear that confusion existed in the minds of ordinary folk. The New Catholic Encyclopedia notes that ???throughout the Middle Ages it was popular belief that the souls in purgatory could appear on this day as will-o???-the-wisps, witches, toads, etc.???
    Unable to uproot pagan beliefs from the hearts of its flock, the church simply hid them behind a ???Christian??? mask. Highlighting this fact, The Encyclopedia of Religion says: ???The Christian festival, the Feast of All Saints, commemorates the known and unknown saints of the Christian religion just as Samhain had acknowledged and paid tribute to the Celtic deities.???

  • Posted By: Original Blondie @ 11/01/2007 3:27:55 AM

    Cont'd...

    The fact is that Halloween and celebrations like it are steeped in paganism. The apostle Paul wrote: ???I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons.??? (1 Cor 10:20-22, New International Version) He also asked: ???What common interest can there be between goodness and evil? How can light and darkness share life together? How can there be harmony between Christ and the devil? What can a believer have in common with an unbeliever???? (2 Cor 6:14-16, Phillips) The Bible thus condemns the whole idea of putting a Christian mask on a pagan practice!
    Also, the Bible warns against the practice of spiritism. (Deut 18:10-12) While it is true that the vast majority of those who celebrate Halloween would claim to spurn Satanic practices, we should, nevertheless, be aware that historically this holiday has close connections with the occult. Thus, it can serve as a door leading to spiritism, especially for impressionable youths. Pagan rites and traditions tainted by spiritism simply have no place in Christian worship; they are far from harmless.
    Finally, there is the fact that Halloween, All Saints??? Day, and All Souls??? Day are all based on the beliefs that the dead suffer or that they can somehow bring harm to the living. However, the Bible clearly shows that such beliefs are not true, saying: ???The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.??? (Ecc 9:5) For that reason, the Bible counsels: ???All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol [the common grave of mankind], the place to which you are going.??? (Ecc 9:10) Since the dead are unconscious and thus incapable of harming others or suffering themselves, we have nothing to fear from them. At the same time, prayers to help them are of no use whatsoever. Does this mean that there is no hope for our dead loved ones? No. The Bible assures us that ???there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.??????Acts 24:15.
    With knowledge comes the freedom to choose. We cannot be expected to make intelligent decisions if we do not have all the facts. After considering the facts brought up, what will you decide? Will you worship the Devil? Or Jehovah God the one exacting exclusive devotion and will destroy those opposing him, including any followers of Satan because he is his enemy, either knowingly or unknowingly (Nahum 1:2) It is our responsibility then to do research to find the true religion to gain everlasting life (John 17:3) For Jehovah God wants all to be saved (John 3:17). Do you want to be?

    Contact the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society for a free bible study to teach you these bible truths.
    25 Columbia Heights
    Brooklyn, New York 11201-2483
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  • Posted By: littlelady @ 11/01/2007 3:19:06 AM

    ..... So according to the law of physics that woud be applied here, all the objects (planets) should be spinning in the same direction as the original.. back to my, I think it's 2 planets ,spinning the opposite direction from the rest ..hmmm I wonder why,, maybe God wanted to make the big bang theory look dumb.. just maybe.

  • Posted By: Dave9284 @ 11/01/2007 3:13:28 AM

    While I do agree that not every experience believed to be paranormal is. It doesn't mean every incident is our minds just making sense of something odd. The fact is, is that we are rather simple beings that have not been around a very long time and to believe we understand everything there is to understand is very closed minded. Especially when there are diseases we can't cure, our ability to space travel is barely there, and we can't even come up with a way to all live together in a civilized way. There a lot out there we have never explored and to think just because our modern science can't prove or disprove it means it doesn't exist is just pointless. Science itself states energy can niether be created nor destroyed only change form. Our brain activity is electrical impulses, essentially energy, when we die these cease. Where does this energy go? To me it's feasible that our being, or soul if you wish to call it that, moves to another state and plane of being. It lives on in another place that we do not have the technology to see or sight to try and even imagine or understand. With this plane of existence it is possible that given the right set of circumstances, this plane they are in crosses paths with ours and they can be aware of us, but us not of them, vice versa or both. Maybe too under the right circumstances we are able to tap into a portion of our brain we don't normally use and that allows us to be aware of the paranormal. All of this is my opinion, but to me is highly feasible so if you don't agree feel free to tell why, but don't just mindlessly blast me for it.

  • Posted By: Dave9284 @ 11/01/2007 3:12:50 AM

    While I do agree that not every experience believed to be paranormal is. It doesn't mean every incident is our minds just making sense of something odd. The fact is, is that we are rather simple beings that have not been around a very long time and to believe we understand everything there is to understand is very closed minded. Especially when there are diseases we can't cure, our ability to space travel is barely there, and we can't even come up with a way to all live together in a civilized way. There a lot out there we have never explored and to think just because our modern science can't prove or disprove it means it doesn't exist is just pointless. Science itself states energy can niether be created nor destroyed only change form. Our brain activity is electrical impulses, essentially energy, when we die these cease. Where does this energy go? To me it's feasible that our being, or soul if you wish to call it that, moves to another state and plane of being. It lives on in another place that we do not have the technology to see or sight to try and even imagine or understand. With this plane of existence it is possible that given the right set of circumstances, this plane they are in crosses paths with ours and they can be aware of us, but us not of them, vice versa or both. Maybe too under the right circumstances we are able to tap into a portion of our brain we don't normally use and that allows us to be aware of the paranormal. All of this is my opinion, but to me is highly feasible so if you don't agree feel free to tell why, but don't just mindlessly blast me for it.

  • Posted By: littlelady @ 11/01/2007 3:07:19 AM

    .. there is actually more to it.. you know the gases, gravity, etc... my point here is that according to the law of physics that would be applied here if such a thing happened, would say that the objects that came off of the orignal spinning object, would have to all spin in the same direction as it is...back to the, I believe 2 planets that spin the opposite direction!!!... hmm, maybe God did it that way on purpose to make the big bang theory look dumb... maybe.

  • Posted By: ch4406pk @ 11/01/2007 3:02:00 AM

    The comments posted here seem to be an excellent illustration of the subject matter in the article. Some people are more likely to recognize patterns than others, and a study has shown that those people have more dopamine in their system. Increase the dopamine level, increase the propensity to see patterns. Some posters, who seem to tend not to believe in the supernatural (tend not to see patterns as readily), read the article and take it at face value, commenting that it is an interesting article about a scientific study. Other posters, who seem to be believers in supernatural phenomena (see patterns more readily), read the article, and see a pattern of language that threatens their beliefs, or attacks their religion. Everyone read the same article, yet there are two camps, based on whether or not one saw, or thought they saw, a message that may or may not be there. Only the author knows whether the article supports belief or skepticism, but I would certainly love to see data on the dopamine levels of the people who commented on the article, to see whether they support the findings of the study mentioned.

  • Posted By: ialod2003@yahoo.co.uk @ 11/01/2007 3:01:00 AM

    I think that Psychology in its current state has not been able to explain certain phenomena as best as it should. For instance if we make the assumption that there is an unseen state of matter like air, but which is intelligent probably higher than our cognitive boundaries, the issue of spirituality becomes much more scientific and a reality.
    For instance we do not see air but we feel and even hear it blow around us. By any spec of probability if that airmass should posess a certain level of even human intelligence, let the Proffesors of Psychology tell us how their present level of science can explain such a phenomenon.

    It is critical that scientist do not condemn what they are not able to proof through physics and biology. It may be their own scewed cognitive ability which they acquire in schools which leads to the perception they have.

  • Posted By: littlelady @ 11/01/2007 3:00:16 AM

    Here is something to consider.. everything that begins to exist must have a cause (a creator), while something that just exists does not have to have a cause..example:God! Our minds just can't fully grasp the idea of something being eternal or how such a thing could even be..and that's simply because the things that closely surround us usually have a beginning and an end. Even then, a gaze at the sky and contemplation on the universe, or even at our solar system should leave us thinking, dont u think?..not the most intelligent man or the most advanced technology could ever replicate anything close to what we see in our solar system... it is something incredible that must have some great intelligence behind it..hint hint: GOD!!

    Also the bing bang theory..along with the human evolution theory is just a ridiculous theory people came up with.. perhaps they wanted attention... who knows.On a serious note there is a reason not all he planets rotate in the same direction.. Ill get to that in a minute. First of all we are all familiar with the big bang theory that says that the first bit of matter that started the whole bing bang theory was spinning..spinning so fast until the planets or whatver else exploded off of it and thats is why the planets continue to spin/rotate today.The

  • Posted By: MACGREEN @ 11/01/2007 2:53:27 AM

    TRY PRAYING TO GOD TI LIVE ON HIS TIME IF HE OR SHE LETS YOU, YOU WILL BE SURPRISED THAT TIME SLOWS DOWN TO ABOUT 3/4 TIME. iTS COOL AND ANYONE THAT BELEIVES IN GOD CAN DO THIS.

  • Posted By: MACGREEN @ 11/01/2007 2:48:17 AM

    i HAVE HAD UP TO A DOZEN EXPERIENCES THAT REALLY WOULD BE HARD TO EXPLAIN. iF YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE SOMETHING AWESOME PRAY TO GOD TO LIVE IN HIS TIME AND IF HE,SHE WILL ALLOW IT YOU WILL SORT OF MAGICALLY FEEL THAT YOU ARE SLOWLY DOWN TO A DIFFERENT BEAT OF TIME. GOD DOES NOT HURRY THINGS ALONG LOL

  • Posted By: aji_889 @ 11/01/2007 2:43:05 AM

    To bhavna: I think the articale is dealing mainly with supposedly paranormal experiences that involve lapses due to normal errors brought about by our perceptions, hence the involvement of patterns. For cases of people actually "seeing" these things, as in the "I-see-dead-people" sort of thing, I can't help but feel a little bit skeptical. That is with me coming from a private SECTARIAN university.

    To chauling: The enthymeme somewhere near line 3 conceals an error. No offense there. I just can't see why people see science as something that attacks them when all that scientists try to do is help them.

  • Posted By: babu11 @ 11/01/2007 2:41:08 AM

    I come from Nepal. I do believe on the arguments provided but at the same time I have seen in mountains some shadows be fallen upon animals and humans ( as kids I have seen this). As a result not only human but also animals fallen sick. Later they needed witch doctor to cure them. how do you justify these things?

  • Posted By: aji_889 @ 11/01/2007 2:33:17 AM

    To bhavna: I think the article is only dealing with paranormal experiences involving perception, hence, patterns being involved. When it comes to poeple supposedly "seeing" them, as in dead on, "I-see-dead-people" experiences, I can't help but feel little bit skeptical. That is with me coming from a the College of Science of a private SECTARIAN university.

  • Posted By: Rochelle79 @ 11/01/2007 2:31:26 AM

    A reply to Afro-cuban...WOW you have some major issues-you claim to be a christian-man and a man of god and so spritual-yet you are filled with so much hate and anger for white people? I mean it was an article that someone wrote,her own opinions..which she is entitled to..and you go all racists...what is that about? I think maybe you need god in your life...which you claim to have but yet i dont feel the love of a christian..but I am a white woman maybe it was meant to be felt by people like me...for whatever reason you hate the white race maybe you should take a long look in the mirror and see where the devil is really hiding because i think he is in you!!! I will pray for you as should everyone else in this world,God knows you will need it my friend....

  • Posted By: asim @ 11/01/2007 2:28:59 AM

    When science climbs the mountain of knowledge, it will find that religion was sitting there all along. We just have to wait patiently for Science to confirm all what religion has been saying for the past hundred years.

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