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  • Posted By: salmio @ 10/31/2007 10:28:59 PM

    yes but thats the sort of insanity that inspires those folks to smash airplanes into buildings, the whole idea that the afterlife is more important and to sacrifice something now. whats the point of building a wonderful society and place for our children when there are people who want to undermine that by saying theres no place like the afterlife. Modern society has no place for religion and the chinese got it right by not allowing expression of religion as all it does is damage society. i think religion should be practiced like meditation, something you can do by yourself without influencing others who are here to get on with this life and get on with business.

    • Posted By: Brian Leahy @ 10/31/2007 10:39:22 PM

      Hear hear!! Yes, the notion that mortal life is irrelevant, and that the afterlife is the "real thing" is really very, very dangerous.

      • Posted By: cjsimon @ 10/31/2007 11:03:01 PM

        To say that the afterlife deserves our great consideration is not to say that mortal life is irrelevant. Indeed, mortal life is anything but irrelevant; it is filled with opportunities, good works, purposes and the like. We live a life of purpose here on earth through God's Spirit. But we live this life with an eternal perspective, valuing that which has eternal value. "Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God. For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do- living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry. They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you. But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit." 1 Peter 4:1-6

  • Posted By: jaytmoon @ 10/31/2007 10:53:42 PM

    I don't profess to be an expert in the paranormal but there is some energy that is released upon death. That "energy", what ever form it takes is sentient but does not normally last for long (on our plain of existence).
    My father passed away on a Sunday morning in 1994 while on vacation in florida. I was awake and reading the morning paper when I felt a hand touching my head and shoulder. That was 7:30 in the morning. At 9:15am, I got a call from my mother that dad had collaped in their condo in Florida. The paramedics said he suffered a major Anyurizm in the brain stem and all body functions ceased instantly. Oddly, my brother has a similar sensation that morning. I flew to Boca that afternoon to bring my mother home and (regretably) sign the papers to turn of the life support that the hospital had dad hooked up to.
    My Dad was a good man who went to church almost daily. I know he was at peace with himself and God. I can only believe that an angel let him say fairwell to me and my Brother that day.
    So any of you reading this blog who deny the existence of another realm through pyscology and cold hard science, fine. I hope that when your final hour comes you may still see those who went before you and welcome you into thier loving home!
    PS: This is a true story, not a fabrication.

  • Posted By: smcox20 @ 10/31/2007 10:53:07 PM

    Well, I am Wiccan and I do not have orignal sin. This is in refereence to those comments shown on the first page. Anyways do not mass me with Christians because I come from a different people not Adam and Eve. Want to question that well read the orignal Bible before King James got a hold of it and you'll see that even in thier the writing mentions in Genesis that when Cain left he went to the land of Other People and married. Therefore there were people before Adam and Eve not created by the Christian god. It also goes on to say that he began to worship the dieties of that region. So, since I do not beleive in your god I do not have orignal sin. Even Hostorically speaking it has been found that those living in different regions worshipped different gods. Therefore, it's even historical accurate to believe that Eden was another god's experiment not that of the others. Oh and by the way I also do not believe in the Devil/Satan/Lucifer. He is and you won't admit this a Christian Diety not one of mine. So, I can not worship him.

  • Posted By: painter para @ 10/31/2007 10:51:38 PM

    contact me at lisa-art@hotmail.com I will send photos

  • Posted By: angel0898 @ 10/31/2007 10:51:18 PM

    Salmilo, I can see you logic, but the book wasn't written in the beginning of creation. Way back then societies were strictly oral. John was written as an account from the life of Jesus. The book of John was written down a few decades after his death.

  • Posted By: painter para @ 10/31/2007 10:50:53 PM

    I believe in the other side I have been a artist for 15 years i recently began painting spirits and souls weirdly enough if i paint a spirit if you look at it from another angle you can see a perfect human face I hav epainted the souls of murdered rape victims as well as just a persons physce i would be glad to post my work it is phenominal my spirits are free but some are not

  • Posted By: sas212 @ 10/29/2007 8:25:21 PM

    Living in England, I was awakened from my sleep because I felt someone sitting down on the edge of the bed, to find absolutely no one there. I was sleeping on the side of the bed that was directly next to the wall. Explain to me what made the bed depress down and wake me from a sound sleep. This not only happened once, but several times. I believe there is a world that none of our scientific reasonings can explain and it drives all the black and white thinkers crazy! I like living in the gray.

    • Posted By: ItsInYourHead @ 10/29/2007 10:02:00 PM

      That's odd. I'm awaken by dreams quite frequently. It appears this is the first time you've ever been forced awake by a dream.

      • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/29/2007 10:43:20 PM

        How about when you're awoken to the presence of a black silouhette, only to know this means someone you know will die quite soon? Happens with the women on my Mom's side of the family, primarily my Mother. The last time it happened was regarding my old roommate in LA who died on my birthday from a motorcycle accident in 2004. Still dreaming? ;)

        • Posted By: Brian Leahy @ 10/29/2007 11:07:14 PM

          Interesting, it has the potential to be testable. Have any of your relatives clearly and confirmably made their "silhouette sightings" known BEFORE news of the death reaches them? And obviously, we have to discount deaths that could have been easily foreseen, like people who were recently in car accidents, or had a terrible disease.

          Also - I take it your relatives sleep with lights on? Silhouettes can't usually be seen in the dark.

          • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 12:28:48 PM

            She's visited prior to death, however they are typically sudden. yes, a car accident in one, SIDs in another, and again, my roommate's motorcycle accident . Distance isn't a part of the equation as he was in LA, she was in Ohio. She'd only met him once when they visited me in LA, so not a real connection between them either other than him being my friend. As for the length of time before someone dies, it varies... and as for warning someone? They're silohettes... No distinguishing features although the one she say the day my roommate died was his height and build. (5'3" Chinese body builder) There was more to it as well, but don't care to go into it on here. When these things occur, we all just make sure we're as careful as can be. No way of knowing if it can be altered.

            • Posted By: cm00dy @ 10/30/2007 12:54:20 PM

              PS - regarding silouhettes and the dark... we have windows in our houses. Is your room so dark that you wouldn't see someone standing right over top of you if you awoke at night? (or do your eyes not adjust to the darkness?) Maybe you're eyes are rod deficient?

              • Posted By: Brian Leahy @ 10/31/2007 10:50:11 PM

                I was imagining a shadow shape against a wall - which WOULD be hard to see in the dark. Someone leaning over you -- yeah, that's different.

  • Posted By: jaytmoon @ 10/31/2007 10:50:11 PM

    I don't profess to be an expert in the paranormal but there is some energy that is released upon death. That "energy", what ever form it takes is sentient but does not normally last for long (on our plain of existence).
    My father passed away on a Sunday morning in 1994 while on vacation in florida. I was awake and reading the morning paper when I felt a hand touching my head and shoulder. That was 7:30 in the morning. At 9:15am, I got a call from my mother that dad had collaped in their condo in Florida. The paramedics said he suffered a major Anyurizm in the brain stem and all body functions ceased instantly. Oddly, my brother has a similar sensation that morning. I flew to Boca that afternoon to bring my mother home and (regretably) sign the papers to turn of the life support that the hospital had dad hooked up to.
    My Dad was a good man who went to church almost daily. I know he was at peace with himself and God. I can only believe that an angel let him say fairwell to me and my Brother that day.
    So any of you reading this blog who deny the existence of another realm through pyscology and cold hard science, fine. I still hope that when your final hour comes you may still see those who went before you and welcome you into thier loving home!

  • Posted By: frenchfry @ 10/31/2007 10:49:33 PM

    people should visit www.counterevolution.info

  • Posted By: AfroCuban @ 10/31/2007 9:46:06 PM

    I am a believer by the grace of God. why It says falsely is that science is FALSE. God created us with a CONSCIENCE. you cant con God. God instilled right and wrong in us when He created us. you white devil scientists try to say racist bullshit like, we evolved from monkeys- that is BULLSHIT. we arent like monkeys. Humans have an understanding of right and wrong. Humans are made in Gods Image and Likeness. you white devils are dead wrong. Look at what they call the books "Science Fiction'. Science is FICTION. science is a lie. there is no big bang theory. there couldnt be something when there was nothing, you *** idiot. how could there be 2 things to 'bang' together when there was nothing. that theory is pathetic. white foolishness. The TRUTH is that God is the Creator of Heaven, Earth, and all things, including all of us. He made all things with wisdom. Thats why He sends rain, sunshine, gentle winds, all things He created to grow the trees and plants, and water them, to bring forth fruit, to feed the animals, to feed us. He makes it a beautiful harmony. white people have been destroying the Earth for a long time. white people treat the Earth and other people of the Earth who happen to be of color by Gods grace, they treat us like their wastebasket. they take it for granted all this beauty and greatness that God has done, and does every day.

    • Posted By: roselking @ 10/31/2007 10:48:23 PM

      My father is white, and my mother is Filipino. What does that make me? Half an idiot? I pray that your heart softens.

  • Posted By: stopglobalwarming @ 10/31/2007 10:47:22 PM

    I just wanted to say to Roadrunner that I believe being open-minded includes both the possibility that there is a God or a higher power and the possibility that there is nothing. You said it yourself, you can't see it, you feel it. Well, the same reasoning goes for the opposite view: you can't see it, you don't necessarily feel it. I am not one to criticize anyone's beliefs, I embrace everyone's ideas and possibilities. I just wanted to say that I think it seems slightly hypocritical to say that you do not understand athiests AND that people who believe in God CAN'T be wrong. I believe entirely that they can be wrong, just as much as athiests can be incorrect as well. There is no way to tell the truth, so saying one belief is right and one belief is wrong is an impossible argument. I at one point considered myself an athiest, and then realized that I can't prove anything, so I see myself today as agnostic, although I do not believe in anything, I still believe there is a definite change that I could be wrong. I just wanted to throw that out there because I'm sure you meant well, but it come out that way in a few of your points. I'm not starting an argument-just thought I'd let you know my side too.

  • Posted By: stopglobalwarming @ 10/31/2007 10:47:01 PM

    I just wanted to say to Roadrunner that I believe being open-minded includes both the possibility that there is a God or a higher power and the possibility that there is nothing. You said it yourself, you can't see it, you feel it. Well, the same reasoning goes for the opposite view: you can't see it, you don't necessarily feel it. I am not one to criticize anyone's beliefs, I embrace everyone's ideas and possibilities. I just wanted to say that I think it seems slightly hypocritical to say that you do not understand athiests AND that people who believe in God CAN'T be wrong. I believe entirely that they can be wrong, just as much as athiests can be incorrect as well. There is no way to tell the truth, so saying one belief is right and one belief is wrong is an impossible argument. I at one point considered myself an athiest, and then realized that I can't prove anything, so I see myself today as agnostic, although I do not believe in anything, I still believe there is a definite change that I could be wrong. I just wanted to throw that out there because I'm sure you meant well, but it come out that way in a few of your points. I'm not starting an argument-just thought I'd let you know my side too.

  • Posted By: painter para @ 10/31/2007 10:46:34 PM

    I have been a artist for ttwelve years or more recently i have been painting peoples spirits and souls I can send you my work it is so weird because they look exactly like spirits and souls recorded by PHYSics of the paranormal please e mail me at lisa-art@hotmail.com my work is so amazing

  • Posted By: righttoexpress @ 10/31/2007 7:22:22 PM

    Normal? Always wondered what one uses as a point of reference. Edgar Cayce and Nostradomus "saw" with far more than their eyes. Seers have been killed in the fearful name of withcraft. We are far more powerful beings than science is ready to prove. Our land has been overrun by fear based posturing. When we return to a place where we "see" with the heart once again we will embrace visions beyond our wildest dreams. For those with the courage to "see". Thank you.

    • Posted By: be real @ 10/31/2007 8:01:03 PM

      I have never responded to anyone before, but tonight I must. Science, science, science. How many of our so called scientific findings are later found to be false. We are always attempting to explain something away. Things that frighten us. "There must be an explanation" So with our eyes we look for an explanation. To truly see, does not require our eyes alone. If fact it does not require your eyes at all. Most of us are afraid to really see. We only see what we choose to see, what we want to see. What we are comfortable admitting we see. I tell my children all the time; "Do not pretend you don't see what you know you see" In a sense we see with all of our senses. There are many things around us, at all times; if you just get quiet and listen and feel and not shut things out when we become afraid. We want to pick and choose what is real. What is real to one may not be real to another. I am a person guided by my feelings, my intuitions, my gut. I can tell many stories, stories of near death and hearing actualconversations before they happen and on and on. None have a scientific bases, it doesn't make them any less rea And no I have never done drugs..

      • Posted By: Brian Leahy @ 10/31/2007 10:45:33 PM

        The strength of science is it's commitment to finding the truth, even if it means rejecting previously held beliefs. A specific scientific premise may not survive, but the scientific method endures, and it gets results.

        Science does not satisfy every human need though; religion and spirituality are undeniably useful and even helpful. But it stops being so the moment your religious belief becomes a law I have to obey, or the moment it gives you permission to blow me up.

  • Posted By: kingspred @ 10/31/2007 10:40:56 PM

    I understand why there are skeptics and secularism. Wars have been waged, lives have been lost, money has been stolen, sanctimony emerges in the name of religion. Religion is extremely precarious when not understood or practiced properly. Secularists feel that a faith-based system is illogical, that science proves who we are more than religion. They think there is no God or they blame God for the world being so unjust. Well why must it be that science and God are so mutually exclusive? And here's a reminder: religion is not supposed to be easy. Understanding God is not easy, for we can never fully understand. It's a lifelong journey. The world is what we make of it. Free will enables us to make this world what it is. We are also supposed to live in harmony with the Earth. Billions of years have shaped our planet and the universe, natural disasters aren't going to subsist just because humans have been around for the blink of an eye in geological terms. God wants us to choose Him, to choose to be good for ourselves and others. He doesn't want us to be obedient robots. Overzealous people of faith miss the point, as well. Passing judgment on and reprimanding others is antithetical to what God wants from us. There isn't one path to God, but there is one goal. The afterlife exists and what you do in the physical realm will determine where you go from here. Do the best you can, be thankful, help others. You'll be all right.

  • Posted By: salmio @ 10/31/2007 10:38:25 PM

    dorby, i have a question, from a crime scene perspective and scientific point of view, if his body was never found, how can you prove that he even died? He could have actually been knocking on the door..thats how i explain it.

  • Posted By: angel0898 @ 10/31/2007 10:30:07 PM

    Hi Yeti, One example is in John Chapter 1. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it." You may want to google "A Case for Christ."

  • Posted By: lvdancer @ 10/31/2007 5:36:30 PM

    I seem to be the only one here who isn't sure if i believe in ghosts or not. I mean, i've read everyone's opinions and they r great, but how do you draw the line? When i was a real little girl, i used to believe in everything, as usual. Then in the middle years of my young life, I refused to believe in them, mostly on family influence. Now as a teenager, we are learning more and more in science, and I think there is really something to that when some people have said it is against the laws of physics if energy just 'poof' disappears. I also believe that a soul goes to Heaven when the body dies, as I am Catholic Christian. So how do I draw the line? I really do believe in ghosts, but i don't think that they are super-signifigant in life on Earth. Is there anyone who believes in both ghosts AND Heaven? I would love to hear your opinions on the matter. Thanks!!

    • Posted By: kaustin @ 10/31/2007 5:50:29 PM

      I am a Christian and do not understand how ghosts can fit in, but I have had unexplainable experiences happen here and there throughout my life, starting at the age of 7. These experiences do not sway my Christian beliefs, but I cannot deny the experiences. In the Bible, when Jesus is seen by His disciples walking on the water, they are scared and think he is a ghost. If Jesus' disciples believed in ghosts, then there must be ghosts, right? "Ghosts" could also be demons.

      • Posted By: roadrunner97 @ 10/31/2007 10:29:50 PM

        I am christian AND I also believe in ghosts, spirits or whatever you wanna call them. Every place I have lived at was haunted (except where I live now and I even live right next to a funeral home-THANK GOD).I grew up in a strict Quaker church my whole life. I know I cannot see GOD, but I can FEEL God. You can't see the wind either, but you can see what it does and what it feels like. And if your open-minded enough you will also see miracles, something God creates. I also believe in Angels and they can take forms and I believe they can help us in time of need or can take physical form when urgent problems arise. I'm not judfing anyone, but I cannot see how some people are athiest. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Millions of people who know GOD is real and everything it has created or unexplained happenings can't be wrong. The only time an athiest isn't athiest is when something goes wrong in their life, then they blame GOD for their problems. (I have a brother in law like that). I also believe in Heaven. I know too many people who have had real near death experiences and come back to life. Read 90 Minutes in Heaven by Don Piper. (that might disapprove alot of people who do not believe in heaven). I believe we all have a purpose in life, that everything was meant to happen for a reason except some things that throw our chart off track,.I don't call myself real educated at all, and I'm quite simple in my thoughts. I just thought I would throw some random thoughts out........

    • Posted By: Tiffmichn @ 10/31/2007 5:42:07 PM

      From a Christian perspective, the Bible clearly says that there are spirits whose main goal is to deceive people into the evil world. One can assume that spirits sometimes pose as lost loved ones (ghosts) in order to draw someone into the occult and away from God. This does not discredit the existence of Heaven; they are definintely both very real.

  • Posted By: Dorby @ 10/31/2007 10:27:09 PM

    A man was killed in World War Two, his vihicle went over the edge and his body was not found. A year later his mother and father were upstairs sleeping and his two sisters in their teens and early twenties were sleeping downstairs. A familiar knock was at the front door, the girls looked at each other and yelled out "who is it?". The answer that came back was "it's me Fred" it was their brother. As they ran for the front door their mother was running down the stairs yelling "open the door, it's my Freddy, my Freddy". The door was opened but no one was there...can you explain this...this was my brother who had died.

    • Posted By: Brian Leahy @ 10/31/2007 10:29:00 PM

      A cruel prank, played by someone who knew him?

  • Posted By: angel0898 @ 10/31/2007 10:28:47 PM

    Hi Yeti, One example is John Chapter 1. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it." Look up the book "A Case for Christ."

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