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A Drop of Blood in the Water

Watch out, Hillary: the feeding frenzy has just begun.

By Richard Wolffe | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Oct 31, 2007 | Updated: 6:53  a.m. ET Oct 31, 2007

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  • Posted By: John Luma @ 11/03/2007 2:09:48 PM

    Comment: Democrats like myself want to know: Is Hillary for giving amnesty to 20 million illegal foreigners, or lying about her beliefs in political doubletalk? Will she disclose the truth of her White House documents, or try to keep them hidden like a secrecy-oriented Bush-Cheney? Will she be honest with voters ABOUT EVERYTHING, or try to b.s. her way into power like most other pols? The spotlight now will reveal the answers.




    She will not say when she will bring the troops home. I will not vote for that dishones
    She will not release the very revealing doc



    uments from her years in the Clinton White House. I will not vote for such ogance and dishonesty.

    If you are a Democrat, particularly after 8 years of the Bush fiasco, you must insist on total transparency,
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    honesty, and policies that support the best interests of citizens, not foreigner

  • Posted By: inddenver @ 11/03/2007 2:06:03 PM

    Comment: Hillary is going to lose the Democrat's chance to the WhiteHouse in 2008 if she's nominated. She will not win in the general election. Polls are already saying a good chunk of the "voting" public, not just democrats, would not vote for her. If she is the Democratic nominee, I, a female, ***, hispanic democrat will NOT vote for her. I'll just sit out the election. I have never done that. Hillary cannot be trusted. She has too much baggage that the republicans can't wait to get their hands on. Republicans want her to win the nomination so they can then tear her apart. She was evasive at the last 2 debates now. I say John Edwards for 2008. He represents a better chance for winning in 2008. He's not a woman and he's not a black muslim. Let's be realists, the people who actually vote in America are not going to vote for a Hillary or Obama. John Edwards for 2008!

  • Posted By: sulliclari @ 11/02/2007 5:55:24 AM

    Comment: Again during this debate, Hillary said Joe Biden is right. END OF STORY

  • Posted By: conserve @ 11/01/2007 12:53:14 PM

    Comment: Hillary, like all the other candidates, has had plenty of time to think about the ramifications of accepting the "undocumented" and providing them the privileges of citizenship without any commitment or effort on their part - she should not only have anticipated the question, she should have been prepared to answer it. She has no concern for the problems they cause, she just wants their VOTES!!! The vote is for citizens, not for those who enter our country with the express (or unexpressed) intent to destroy America, its political system and its culture.

  • Posted By: Gayront79 @ 11/01/2007 12:24:06 PM

    Comment: I watched the debate a couple of nights ago and clearly Obama and Edwards are loosing as we speak. They are trying all they can to keep the power they have going into this first run off vote. They are scared, and it did look bad attacking women on a stage full of men. Edwards talks about lobbying efforts by Hillary but he took money from lawyers bundling money for his campaign, hum, in addition, when he made profits from the foreclosure of homes in the State of Louisiana, by a company in which he was invested in, cashed out with lots of money and he created no fund to give back money to help those people, but he is right, "two Americas", which part of America is Edwards part of 1 or 2? Double talk ah Edwards. What world are you from, you saw you talk no money from lobbyist but from a lawyer Pac, what is the difference? You sir are a double talker.

  • Posted By: dogman @ 11/01/2007 11:47:13 AM

    Comment: Edited verison: It is pretty easy to figure out what Hillary meant in the debate two days ago concerning illegal immigrants and drivers licenses. If we are talking about the problem of drivers without insurance then one way to deal with it is to allow illegal immigrants to have drivers licenses so they can get insurance, that is common sense. However, if we're talking about the problem of illegal immigration then giving illegals drivers licenses to live clear after crossing a porous border; No, that isn't the best deterrent. Now, I didn't watch the debate but it sounds like the question was trying to split Hillary's positions on the lack of insured drivers, illegal immigration, homeland security, and civil liberties. She answered the first part too succinctly and needed to add the buzzword of illegal immigration on the second part. That would of led her to a comment on a national id cards and how she hestiates to go there. With a rousing 'we need to closed the border' as a final statement, we would be practicing the phrase Madam President. This was a chance for Hill to hit a glad slam, and she foul it away with a full count.

  • Posted By: dogman @ 11/01/2007 11:29:12 AM

    Comment: It is pretty easy to figure out what Hillary meant in the debate two weeks ago concerning illegal immigrants and driver's licenses. If we are talking about the problem of drivers without insurance then one way to deal with it is to allow illegal immigrants to have driver's licenses so they can get insurance is common sense. However, if were taking about the problem of illegal immigration then giving illegals driver's licenses to live free after crossing a porous border isn't the best deterrent. Now, I didn't watch the debate but it sounds like the question was to split Hillary's positions on the lack of insured driver's, illegal immigration, homeland security, and civil liberties. She answered the first part too succinctly and needed to hit the buzzword of illegal immigration all the second part. That would of lead her to a comment on a national id card and how she hestiate to go there. With a rousing we need to closed the border. This was a chance to hit a glad slam, and she foul it away with a full count.

  • Posted By: boyblue @ 11/01/2007 7:04:35 AM

    Comment: they say she took 2 hours of attack, and stayed calm and on task the entire time. Well Bill definately taught her good. Remember when Bill was on attack about Monica, and he stayed calm, and on task the entire time? Thats what they're taught to do!

  • Posted By: alreds @ 11/01/2007 4:53:30 AM

    Comment: Mrs. Clinton is trying to have it both ways, but now she's finally being forced to define herself. This is the right approach to use to unmask her and to bring to light what she really is. Way to go!

  • Posted By: USMC1980 @ 11/01/2007 4:22:08 AM

    Comment: Despite the supposed "vulnerabiltiy", Hillary Clinton is stillwinning in every major poll against her rivals, AND against Rudy Giuliani. The truth is, that one stumble won't erase the perfect score shes had in every other debate. Despite the wishes of Wolffe, Matthews and others, Hillary Clinton is still by far the strongest candidate, and in a choiuce between her or "Bush Bot" Rudy Giuliani, she wins among the vast majority of Dems and Independents....and that is something no amount of spin can change.

  • Posted By: USMC1980 @ 11/01/2007 4:20:58 AM

    Comment: Despite the supposed "vulnerabiltiy", Hillary Clinton is stillwinning in every major poll against her rivals, AND against Rudy Giuliani. The truth is, that one stumble won't erase the perfect score shes had in every other debate. Despite the wishes of Wolffe, Matthews and others, Hillary Clinton is still by far the strongest candidate, and in a choiuce between her or "Bush Bot" Rudy Giuliani, she wins among the vast majority of Dems and Independents....and that is something no amount of spin can change.

  • Posted By: TKEIRISH @ 11/01/2007 12:01:14 AM

    Comment: skyz, you obviously are for a big government. However, how do you plan on the government paying for health care for everyone. Not only that, but then how do you regulate it. If going to the doctor is free, paid for by the government, you will see hospital visits skyrocket. Our doctors and nurses will be overwhelmed by merely people coming in for colds and coughs. It would be nice in this world to have everyone have health care and money however it will make people weak and dependent and they will over abuse the system. The best system for anything in my belief is a system that is designed to get pople back on their feet so that they themselves can pay for it.

  • Posted By: jnielsen85 @ 10/31/2007 11:43:38 PM

    Comment: I'm sure if she feels at all threatened Hillary will concoct some way to blame it all on the vast right wing conspiracy that she is obsessed with. We as Americans can only hope that her campaign implodes, we cannot afford another four years of a Billary Controlled White House. God help us if she even gets a sntiff of it.

  • Posted By: skyz @ 10/31/2007 11:35:19 PM

    Comment: sorry for double post - i did not see the first one post -

  • Posted By: skyz @ 10/31/2007 11:32:35 PM

    Comment: hillary will win this election - there are few people of either sex that could remain poised under the barrage of abuse thrown at her - are there better potential presidents than hillary - almost certainly - but they are not running or they do not have the ability to win - her ability to handle diatribes and outright abuse is very valuable as whoever is president will not be tenderly embraced by the rest of this world - she is strong she is aware of the needs of the average citizen and she does not need time to learn how to be president once she is in office - we need her - we have no more time and or money to waste -

  • Posted By: skyz @ 10/31/2007 11:31:33 PM

    Comment: hillary will win this election - there are few people of either sex that could remain poised under the barrage of abuse thrown at her - are there better potential presidents than hillary - almost certainly - but they are not running or they do not have the ability to win - her ability to handle diatribes and outright abuse is very valuable as whoever is president will not be tenderly embraced by the rest of this world - she is strong she is aware of the needs of the average citizen and she does not need time to learn how to be president once she is in office - we need her - we have no more time and or money to waste -

  • Posted By: BROKENANGEL56 @ 10/31/2007 10:57:15 PM

    Comment: YOU ARE RIGHT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING ELECTION. I AM DEPENDING ON YOU TO KEEP THE ISSUES STRAIGHT AND TRUTHFUL FOR ME TO MAKE MY FINAL DECISIONS ON THE WAY I WILL VOTE. BEING AN ELDERLY SHUT-IN I DEPEND ON OUTSIDE SOURCES TO KEEP ME ABREAST OF CURRENT EVENTS. THANK YOU AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

  • Posted By: TerriHamel @ 10/31/2007 10:49:43 PM

    Comment: If you take the time to read Hell to Pay, then Barbara Olson didn't die in vain.

  • Posted By: jjhbiker @ 10/31/2007 10:47:55 PM

    Comment: Hillary can take anything those wannabes and spoilers can dish out,and by doing so, proves she has the wits and guts to run this country, probably better than any of the presidents we have had lately. She has my vote......

  • Posted By: rickf @ 10/31/2007 10:45:57 PM

    Comment: Folks, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are all forgetting Hillary's ace in the hole. His name is Slick Willie, Bubba, Mr. President or Bill or whatever you want to call him, this guy is a tremendous orator and politician and he's got a lot of memories that involve the White House. When this guy gets out on the campaign trail for "Mama" he's gonna talk her and himself back into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Besides, there are still a lot of people out here that like Willie. If he could have run a third time against G W, he would have beat him like a rented elephant. Besides, did you ever see a closer family then the Bushes and the Clintons?

  • Posted By: cbryington @ 10/31/2007 10:36:42 PM

    Comment: Never in Americas history have we had such a need for leadership and such a lack of it. Niether the Republicans or Democrats have offered a choice except for Ron Paul. He is the only one that can tell the truth no matter how hard it is to hear. We need a wake up call, not more of the same. Don't want to bash Hillary or Rudy, I just love my country and it is time, join th REVOLUTION!!!!

  • Posted By: cbryington @ 10/31/2007 10:29:41 PM

    Comment: NEVER IN AMERICAS HISTORY HAVE WE HAD SUCH A NEED FOR LEADERSHIP AND SUCH A LACK OF IT. I HAVE WATCHED BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT DEBATES AND IT IS MY OPINION THAT RON PAUL IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO WILL MAKE THE HARD CHOICES THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA THE NATION IT SHOULD BE, BOTH HERE AND ABROAD.

  • Posted By: POKI @ 10/31/2007 10:23:08 PM

    Comment: the more the other candidates attach Clinton's position the more she stands out. The only reason why the other candidates are attacking Clinton is because they know how much of a better president she will be in 2008.The other candidates need to come up with a better strategy other then talking about Clinton' s plans. They attack because they are avoiding being attacked. Clinton knows better not to attack and that makes her more of leader. Coming election, the world will be ready for a lady president.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 22:37:50

      Comment: Actually the reason the're attacking her is because they know how horrible a President she will make. That's the funny thing, how anyone could possibly think she'd be anything but a failure is beyond me. She HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING ANYTHING!

  • Posted By: Pikesheila @ 10/31/2007 10:14:32 PM

    Comment: I love Hillary but was shocked to hear what she had to say about giving all illegals, drivier licences, also her changes her opinion so often. Hillary that just did not sound like you,

    Sheila

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 22:34:52

      Comment: Unfortunately, Sheila, last night showed exactly how she is. She's been trying her hardest to paint this other image of her but couldn't keep it up any longer.

  • Posted By: JRG3 @ 10/31/2007 9:29:06 PM

    Comment: HRC can bleed in the water until the cows come home and it won't matter. So far there's not a viable Republican candidate to compete with her or Obama. Both HRC and Obama have name and face recognition, they're smart, well connected and gifted with high energy. Both have excellent teams supporting them--Bill might be a *** but he's also an awesome politician. I'm sure HRC is pleased with her performance and enjoys being attacked as the front runner. So far all we Republicans have is Rudy who's a legend in his own mind . What we need is a candidate who is bipartisan, not a political hack or politically schizophenic. American's challenges, and we have many, cannot be addressed by an internationalist or someone who wants to solve our problems with failed policies from Europe, Asia,. or Canada. We must address energy dependency. We must protect our borders. We must protect our economy. We must make our education system the envy of the world. We must enforce our laws. We must shrink our government and get Uncle Sam out of our pocketbooks. We must become a world partner, not the world's nanny. HRC and all the other candidates are giving us 19th centure answers to 21st century challenges. The Republicans have this race to lose and we're running uphill. We need candidates with ideas and answers. Not double talking, old style politicians.

  • Posted By: Zogsmog @ 10/31/2007 9:19:46 PM

    Comment: You have a very short memory of history Demilitiacrat. The Clintons stood for the "sanctity of peace"? If you will recall Clinton was president while the Army rangers and were surrounded by the seething mobs of the Somali warlords. What did Clinton do when aides informed him of the crisis in Mogadishu? Did he step up and tell the country? Did he lead? No he left for a west coast political speaking tour. You surely remember Clinton presided over the bombing of Bosnia. Yes many non-combatants including women and children died at Bill Clinton's orders. I don't remember any Bosians ever attacking America. Do you? What are the monstrous gargantuan problems we face that you mention. Iraq? Sure is sucks when soldiers die. We have lost almost 4,000 in five years. We have also lost over 25,000 American teenagers to auto fatalities in the same amount of time. Do you really think that the Clintons who are so adept at speaking out of both sides or their mouths stand for anything but the pursuit of power? Justice? You must have forgotten the last minute pardons of drug trafficers, arms dealers and con-men Clinton handed out in 2001 just before leaving office.

  • Posted By: paul92 @ 10/31/2007 9:08:22 PM

    Comment: the no establishment cause separating church and state only applies to a government-sponsored religion. so does the first ammendment not apply to Bush? don't you want a prez who let's the Lord guide him? even if you don't believe in Christianity don't they have good ideals? you know, demilitiacrat, all presidents have been sworn into office by placing their hands on a bible, and the continental congress had a chaplain on the payroll, so did every single state goverment. there was prayer in public schools until the fifties, and our currency and our flag's pledge both have "god talk." you should read the court brief of paula jones and bill clinton. Mohawk women were the tribal leaders, so why not Hillary? its not because she's a woman, its not because she is a democrat, its because she isn't a good person. she is a cold, calculating, beaurocrat. she believes a woman should be the "absolute mistress of her own body." "it takes a village"? it takes some one willing to preach abstinence instead of a "necessary evil." i am the product of a brutal rape, i am alive because my mother saw life, the sacredness of life. oh yah, "there is a peace that can only be found on the other side of war, and if that war must come, i will fight it."

  • Posted By: Multitasker @ 10/31/2007 8:46:47 PM

    Comment: Talk about unfair and unbalanced, MSNBC made FOX look like Switzerland
    I think Biden actually did the best.
    Edwards is a hypocrite. Sued every doctor he could until his wife needed one.
    Hillary proved once again how well she does talking out of both sides of her mouth. If she wins, I am moving to Canada
    Obama is good, but he doesn't have the "Jerry Springer' mentality that Americans need to vote for him

    • Posted By: conserve @ 11/01/2007 13:00:59

      Comment: Mr. Biden probably plagiarized his remarks from somebody else - much as he did in law school many years ago I was a Delaware resident long ago, and remember Biden well - don't want no parts of that guy.

  • Posted By: thaibonnie @ 10/31/2007 7:58:01 PM

    Comment: I wish the best of luck to Hillary....I think many American's are totally ready and accepting of her. Bashing her husband is old news and so unwelcome by many. Go all the way Hillary :)

  • Posted By: thaibonnie @ 10/31/2007 7:55:34 PM

    Comment: I wish Hillary the best of luck.....America is ready for someone like her and like the article indicated, attacks on her husband is old news and unwelcomed from so many voters.....Go all the way Hillary :)

  • Posted By: mzzim@hotmail.com @ 10/31/2007 7:41:33 PM

    Comment: Just hang in there Hillary. Your co-hearts can't be any worse than coming up against your Republican opponent (Giuliani?). Let's face it. Hillary is the best pick. Giuliani - a noun a verb and 9/11...oh and running a city. There is so much more. We need a change and it needs to be Hillary. The year 2008 is the year of the woman. Hillary has answers to this countries problem. Bush has allowed trouble to run amock. Illegal aliens, fraudulent lending practices allowed, insurance companies bailing in time of extreme patient need, verbal promises of fossil fuel alternative..only lip service. As a consumer I am tired of having to watch my back.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 21:20:52

      Comment: 2008 is the year of the woman? That's priceless! Love the quote you borrowed from Biden, by the way but that quote alone shows exactly why Clinton isn't the answer. Biden makes fun of the experience of Giuliani, yet Hillary doesn't even have that and you think she's the best candidate? You obviously aren't paying attention then.

      Hillary, and the other Dems, wants to push this country to socialism. Health care for everyone is a ridiculously stupid idea. How does anyone think any of that will be paid? Higher taxes. On top of that she wants to give a certain group of people money to open 401 K plans ... who pays for that? The answer is imple ... you and I do.

      I love how everyone talks about the republicans and mainly how bad Bush has been. Bush has been bad but talk about irrelevant ... he's not running for President! You all talk of change, that's what was supposed to happen once the Dems took control of Congress ... right now they have a lower approval rate then Bush does!

      Dems are softer on the issue of illegal immigrants as a whole, that's not even debatable. Hillary has done nothing thus far, she hasn't run anything, nothing and everyone wants to give her the keys to this country. Talk about a joke!

  • Posted By: JRG3 @ 10/31/2007 6:59:51 PM

    Comment: There may be blood in the water but it's not HRC. Hillary is a 'seasoned' politician and experience attorney. Unfortunately, she's also like the herd of presidential wannabes who don't have viable, midstream answers to America's problems and challenges. She's worked with and been married to one of the slickest politicians this country has ever produced and as a pupil of Alinsky knows well how to handle her competitors both democrats and republicans. It's unfortunate she doesn't have more business experience at the executive level and leans towards social democracy. It would be nice to have a fearless statesman in office but I don't believe Hillary is the right person for the job.

  • Posted By: Sarah701 @ 10/31/2007 6:49:17 PM

    Comment: American Dream? Please. hahaha what a loser response. What have republicans done to improve the individual lives of anyone? Nada. Quit campaigning, you're ignorance is appalling. Get a grasp on international politics first, and then come back and tell me why I should vote for another republican.

    • Posted By: chef01 @ 11/03/2007 10:04:23

      Comment: Thank you Sarah701. Republicans, what a joke. They're the reason this country we live in is a mess. What memorable thing has Georgie done. He and the republican controlled Congress accomplished nothing, except war and major national debt. Once more Dems are elected, more will get done in Congress. At least what real Americans want. Actually, ANYTHING is more than Georgie has accomplished. Have any of you ever been to Switzerland? Paul H, you must read the Washington Times. If you think America is doing well, and that our current system is the best in the world, you must live in a bubble house in Arizona with no connection to the outside world. Our country has steadily declined over the past seven years, in so many ways. The only answer is major change in how we do things. That won't happen with another Republican is office.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 19:21:11

      Comment: International politics? LMAO ... yea ... that's a strong platform for Dems ... you truly are amazing. You can call me whatever names you want to Sarah, I come to expect this from ignorant libs, such as yourself.

      But hey ... keep waving those pom poms for Hillary. LOL

  • Posted By: Sarah701 @ 10/31/2007 6:47:23 PM

    Comment: hahaha what a loser response. What have republicans done to improve the individual lives of anyone? Nada. Quit campaigning, you're ignorance is appalling. Get a grasp on international politics first, and then come back and tell me why I should vote for another republican.

  • Posted By: clikdawg @ 10/31/2007 6:27:51 PM

    Comment: Well, at least last night's debate gave us a good preview of the inevitable theme of her "inevitable" presidency: "Bush Was Worse!"

    No matter what happens, no matter how badly she stumbles, it will be Bush's fault, just like W has blamed everything on Bill; and the stock answer to criticism will be: "Would you like George Bush back again?" Delivered, of course, with incremental increases of her trademark shrillness, exasperation, and sense of personal entitlement.

    Fun, huh?

    And the American downward spiral continues ...

  • Posted By: Sarah701 @ 10/31/2007 6:25:55 PM

    Comment: I find the majority of comments ignorant and irrelevant. Quit whining about the plan for universal health care, unless you have a better idea. Anything beats the pathetic system we are currrently ruled by. I look at the Republican field of candidates and see all of them as being potentially worse than the current president. Hillary is clearly the strongest candidate and is certainly shrewdly calculating enough to really effectively deal with Iran and regain international support for the U.S. Not only that, but she is an international figure, and widely respected, unlike most of the other candidates. Get over yourselves people--she's a flip-flopper, she's manipulative. Blah blah blah. She's a politician, and so is every single person up there. At least she's owns it, whereas others waste time trying to create the illusion that they're not like other politicians, when in fact, that's exactly what they are. You want splash and pizazz? That's exactly what we voted for in 2000 and look where that got us! Quit looking at the superficial. Who really has the stomach and tenacity to deal with the multitude of national and international quagmires we find ourselves in. If anything, last night's gang-up on Hillary (because let's face it, that wasn't anything closely resembling debate) only proved that she's got guts and staying power.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 18:39:38

      Comment: And your comments aren't ignorant? Anything beats the pathetic system we are currently ruled by? That pathetic system you complain about is the best in the world.

      It's funny to watch Democrats complain about how this doesn't work, that doesn't work, but yet it's always things that ARe run by the government that arte bogged down and inadequate, so what's their answer to that? Give government MORE to do.

      This country was founded on capitalism, not socialism, it's a system that gives incentives to be the best you can be and you will be rewarded. That's what the American Dream is all about, you can have anything you want, but you're going to have to work for it, nothing should be handed to you and someone who makes more then you shouldn't be forced to take money they've earned and give more back so the government can fund free health care for those who can't afford it. What should be done is talking to those insurance companies who charge a boat load just for coverage. And maybe work on people who sue for everything under the sun.

      People want to blame blame blame and blame some more rather then looking themselves in the face and knowing the buck stops there with each and every one of us. It's not the governments job to give me health insurance, that responsiblitiy falls on my shoulders and everyone elses to provide for themselves.

      I work two jobs to provide for my fiance and I. People need to start providing for themselves insteading of acting as if they're owed something from others. Maybe if people did a little more for themselves instead of complaining how life isni't fair they'd have more for themselves.

      The plain and simple truth is if you want capitalism, you will vote republican, if you're a whiner and want government to do everything for you because you're too lazy to provide for yourself, then you want socialism and the Democrats.

  • Posted By: woodsman1st @ 10/31/2007 6:03:29 PM

    Comment: Just wait until Peter Paul, the guy that paid for her big Bollywood Bash, gets through with her. She is so crooked she can't even testify in her own defense; but runs away from it. She has more mud thrown on her regarding illegal campaign contributions than all the other candidates, from both parties, put together. She is going to have to answer for all those pardons that she and her lying hubby Billy sold at the end of their disasterous time in the White House. She is going to have to answer why hubby Billy ignored and did nothing about the attacks on the Cole and our embassys throughout the world. She is going to have to explain why Billy boy refused to accept Bin Laden who was offered to us on a silver platter. Indeed she did learn lots of things while hubby Billy diddled with Monica and then lied under oath. I fear for our country if she becomes POTUS and then attempts to apply all she learned while Billy Boy destroyed our country for eight years.
    We should all be very afraid with her leading the Democraps; and God forbid if she ever does become POTUS; with that chilling thought we should all be VERY VERY AFRAID!

  • Posted By: janetb @ 10/31/2007 5:56:45 PM

    Comment: Paul thinks Hillary is evil because she wants to give immigrants driver's license,?It's ok for George Bush to give them total amnesty while showing no mercy to the American public

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 18:22:18

      Comment: And you'rer wrong about why I think Hillary is evil, she's evil because she wants to lead this country into socialism, it's just a shame you people don't understand that.

  • Posted By: janetb @ 10/31/2007 5:52:27 PM

    Comment: Paul says that Hillary is gfiving something(driver's license ti immigrants) and that is a no-no. Better than Bush giving total amnesty to them and in the same stride sticking it to Americans.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 18:10:46

      Comment: Ummm, what do you think the Democrats want to do? Bush made a huge mistake by suggesting such a thing, you will never hear me say otherwise.

      I will say though that it's amazing the how people ignore Hillary's inabilities by declaring it's Bush's fault of comparing her to him, she's not running against him.

      But she has done nothing, thus far, to prove she deserves to be the next President of the United States, but she has done a lot to prove why she shouldn't be.

      Universal health care is one of the worst ideas ever, and her stance, along with most libs on illegal immigrants is enough for people to know she's not the one who should be the next President.

      She has no experience, and that's the reason her hubby, Bill, won't release information on what she did while first lady to the public until 2012, well after this election.

  • Posted By: ryanjones2006 @ 10/31/2007 5:51:29 PM

    Comment: The debate last night was an all out Hillary roast. She proved once again she can stand up to bullys and fight for what she believes. She will easily topple the republicans in November 08.

    • Posted By: dotymed @ 10/31/2007 20:55:25

      Comment: Paul your greed and ignorance is showing. What do you think would have happened to this "once great" nation if "the new deal"had not been introduced by Roosevelt? Socialism? Damn Skippy. Did it save this country? Damn right it did. Your greed and self centeredness will not let you understand that unfettered capitalism is the most destructive and
      inequal form of govrnance ever contrived by man. That is why we are now a corporate-fascist state. Pull your head out of your butt and think clearly for the first time in your life. Capitalism has been a great way for the rich to maintain and grow their wealth while the poor have no chance but to suffer. Hell, what do you think about our privatized (mercenary) armies and our privatized medicine? Is that the reason we now rank #13 in the world for heathcare? All An insignificant trust fund baby like you now needs is a privatized daddy to keep your mouth full.

      • Posted By: Zogsmog @ 10/31/2007 21:25:32

        Comment: Why is China rising. It isn't due to socialism. Capitalism works!

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 18:12:33

      Comment: Actually she opened the door and let people see the real Hillary, a person not qualified to be President of this country.

      She's the most unqualified person running for President period.

  • Posted By: Sarah701 @ 10/31/2007 5:26:56 PM

    Comment: First of all, MSNBC should be ashamed at having such a biased moderator host the debate! I found the entire exercise pathetic and desperate on Edwards' and Obama's part. I didn't hear them once spell out a plan of their own. Any time they were asked a quiestion, it was turned into an attack on Hillary. Not only that, but Tim Russert was very heavy-handed in his prodding of Hillary, but practically babied other candidates like Obama with questions like "Were you feelings hurt when Mitt Romney confused Obama for Osama?" Who cares??! That's not a relevant question. I think Hillary withstood the attacks very well, and I love how everyone says she evades the question. Show me a candidate who doesn't! All of them do. At least she has plans! She was literally the only one I saw actually talking about how she would deal with issues. Everyone else was just whining about her. I think it's pathetic and hypocritical, especially of Obama, Mr. "No Mudslinging in Politics!" Talk about flip-flopping when convenient!

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 17:31:33

      Comment: Sara ... she has one plan and that's to raise taxes to provide for Universal health care. That isn't a plan, that's a recipe for disaster. This country doesn't need more government it needs less government. I don't want to pay for your health care, or anyone elses.

      She has no experience in running anything. Living in the same house as her husband while HE was President isn't experience. What has she ever run? Nothing.

      Moreover, any candidate who supports anything giving illegal immigrants anything isn't worthy of being President of this country. She's done nothing but flip flop on almost every topic, it's amazing. Yet, the media loves their darling Hillary, what a joke.

    • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 17:30:13

      Comment: Earth to Sarah Conner: the moderator is a staunch democrat! She did not give an answer to the questions: NEWSWEEK:Still, she continued her strategy of avoiding direct answers to questions: She wouldn't say how she would address Social Security; she declined to pledge whether she would stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, or say whether she supports giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

      Instead she tried to tried to turn every issue into an argument against President Bush. She said Bush's name 25 times, more than all six of her rivals combined.

  • Posted By: sixtymama @ 10/31/2007 5:26:21 PM

    Comment: It is amazing to me that people are so nasty about Hilary. What scares you? A strong woman? An intelligent woman? If she was a man would you react the same way? I think men are afraid of her and the women who are not for her are wrong! Who runs the house in your home? Who raises the kids? Who budgets? Who multitasks all the time? The rest of the world is really into women in power, what is wrong with all of you????

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 17:43:35

      Comment: I can't believe I missed the end of your post ... so we're to vote for Hillary because raised her kid? Cause she budgeted the money at home? Because she multitasks (as if men don't)? LMAO ... you really are a trip. Since no one has bothered to fill you in, having the ability to run a household isn't a thing that will get you voted into the White House.

      Thanks for the great debate and proving my case as to why Hillary isn't qualified to be President.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 17:39:00

      Comment: Wow it took a lot longer then I thought it would to read a response like yours. Poor women ... why are we picking on poor poor Hillary. Well mainly because she's done nothing but flip flop on most topics, or simply bothered to ignore the question all together.

      She also wants to lead this country toward socialism. A woman doesn't scare me, Hillary does simply because she's not even the best candidate in her own party.

      But thanks for not disappointing me, I knew I'd see someone posting something to the effect of women bashing! IT couldn't ismply be that she's just not fit to be President of this country, it has to be I'm afraid of smart and strong women, yea, that's it.

  • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 5:14:19 PM

    Comment: Earth to Hillary: You are not running against GW!

  • Posted By: monicalewinsky69 @ 10/31/2007 5:06:36 PM

    Comment: She is shrlll, opportunistic, calculating and unworthy of being President. Moreover, she is not a person who can bring the countrty together at a time when it truly needs that type of a leader. Bill was. She's no Bill.

    • Posted By: dogman @ 11/01/2007 13:25:59

      Comment: Aren't we all calculating an opportunistic. I would think we would want a president to calculate and know when to go for it. And as for her being high pitched and piercing in tone as say Dean's famous squel, I don't follow. I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

    • Posted By: Demilitiacrat @ 10/31/2007 20:07:21

      Comment: Guess what? Hillary is Bill with Balls. She has alot of the charisma that Bill had, maybe not more than him but her charisma is that you can tell she really believes what she's talking about, that she's believed in it for a long time and has always wanted to help this country from a very young age. You can see that she cares, that she has a good sharp, strong, focused mind, that she has thought about the nearly impossible and thanks to GW the monstrous and gargantuan problems we face as a country right now. I see in her what I saw in her husband. That she holds to her beliefs, which is to stand up for them, and do your best to solve those problems. I see that they both believe in making this a better country, in standing up for what's right, justice, tolerance, and the sanctity of peace in a troubled and unstable world. She has the spirit, the brains, the drive, the heart and the money behind. So all of you idiots that thought a tax cut was the most important thing and would turn the whole country around, why don't you take a good look at what you have sacrificed for your party of hate, bigotry, greed and tax cuts. Oh and has anyone ever heard of seperation between Church and State? When did someone tell Bushy that it's okay for him to talk about the Lord guiding him and how he found the Lord? Nothing against religion, just another example of his immaturity and stupidity. As if it matters at all if he found the Lord or his bung hole.

      • Posted By: conserve @ 11/01/2007 13:11:59

        Comment: Hillary has no beliefs, except that we the people are too stinking stupid to brush our own teeth! Her only beliefs would turn us into a new "Soviet Union" - sometime read up on how Stalin and Lenin dealt with their "enemies of the state", and what constituted an "enemy" - you will find that Hillary represents hatred and bigotry much more than the republicrats do ...

  • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 5:05:30 PM

    Comment: adamskr: quote from newsweek:
    Still, she continued her strategy of avoiding direct answers to questions: She wouldn't say how she would address Social Security; she declined to pledge whether she would stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, or say whether she supports giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

    Instead she tried to tried to turn every issue into an argument against President Bush. She said Bush's name 25 times, more than all six of her rivals combined.

  • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 4:51:30 PM

    Comment: adamskr: the facts are self evident. I dare you to watch hannidy tonight. How can anyone write a story about a debate without actually quoting what the person said? well, this article in Newweek did just that! John edwards: "In the space of 2 minutes, you(Hillary) took two exactly opposite positions on one question." B Clinton did that all the time and got away with it. You should insist upon truthfullness and honesty when someone answers a question. And it was not GW who did not pass the amnesty bill-it was the DEM Congress! So Hillary, are you for or against drivers licences for illeagals? Hillary: BLAH BLAH BALH , and BLAH BLAH BLAH and blame Bush, and BLAH BLAH BLAH....and she never actually answers the question. She did that about 4 times last night. Yet if a Republican mispells "Potato" he is ridiculed on the front page? No media bias? PULEASE!

  • Posted By: Dammit @ 10/31/2007 4:49:09 PM

    Comment: Keep your videotape handy so you can refer to which of a dozen positions on an issue that Hillary is using today. Her position varies to suit the audience she is talking to. "Tell them what they want to hear" is her M.O.

  • Posted By: adamskr @ 10/31/2007 4:47:18 PM

    Comment: Oh, she is so different from other candidates how????

  • Posted By: Dammit @ 10/31/2007 4:44:45 PM

    Comment: Keep your videotape handy because you will need to refer to in orer to find out which of a dozen positions on an issue she s iusng today. He positonon any issue all depends on the audience she is talking to.

  • Posted By: gladiatorstail @ 10/31/2007 4:39:30 PM

    Comment: The way I see it..

    Hillary and Joe Biden are by far the most qualified people to run. Obama is all around, least qualified, least articulate. He wants to attack pakistan and open a new front on "wart on terror"(not realizing that attacking pakistan=first nuclear war in the modern world). He showed his bigoted side partenering with Donnie. He will let others define him. Edwards was yesterdays hope. Today he is just another "frontrunner" and all he can do is attack others constantly. What are his views on immigration? what are his views on fixing social security? what are his credentials regarding foriegn policy? What experience does he bring?
    Biden IMO is most articulate among all the other candidates. However, putting both clintons resume and his resume side by side, I would choose HRC. She has taken heat and yet stood her ground despite slimy conspiracy by tim russert and chris mathews, both of who cant stand hillary.

    and please MSM, next time you call a debate, I hope it is a real debate, not some punch bag concert.. If I were clinton, I would rethink coming on MSNBC for next debate, hands down!

  • Posted By: adamskr @ 10/31/2007 4:37:57 PM

    Comment: abrooks8-you are as far off as you say the naive liberals are. I am neither naive or gulliable. I consider myslef well-educated, articulate and politically savvy. Your opinion is important and debate is what makes our politicals system work. But you do mot suplly facts for your very general and incorrect statements about Clinton. It seems you are the naive one that buys into the negative bias of the other candidtes and their double-speak. Why can't they sell themselves as the next president of the United States. The bashing they did on Hillary was exactly what we see on grade-school playgrounds. Name-calling because they don't have anything worth saying.

    • Posted By: mzzim@hotmail.com @ 10/31/2007 19:51:09

      Comment: I agree abrooks8. The other candidates need to sell themselves..instead of bashing Hillary. But, they pick on the one who is far out in front because they are affraid on speaking about their own policies, afraid of stepping on toes. This is silly. They are all attacking her. If just one of these guys were smart enough, they would speak out and let the American people know just what they are going to do if they are elected president. Remember when Hillary mentioned her insurance care idea....then the guys all followed her lead and had theirs. It is apparent to me that they do not deserve to be in the lead..and Hillary does.

    • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 16:58:16

      Comment: adamskr----just watch the tape, and listen to what she says, which is nothing. Andbelieve me, if you are a liberal, you are naive and gulible. Navie? DEMS:" Lets raise taxes after the tax cuts have spurred the economy and actually hugely increased the revenue to the federal treasury." Dems: "Lets ignore that actual fact and repeal the Bush tax cuts."
      I am a conservative who wants some form of health care. But I insist that whoever I vote for will give honsts answers without lying all over the place. Listen to the deabte again and see if you can figure out what she said. I can't. Do you want drivers licences for illeagals, yes or no? simple question that needs an answer.

  • Posted By: lennieewg @ 10/31/2007 4:32:01 PM

    Comment: Boy, was I angry at Tim Russert and Chris Matthews, ordinarily 2 of my favorite tv people. Russert seemed not to know the difference between the debate and Meet the Press. His job at the debate was definitely not to go for the gotcha moment, but that is what he did. Leading up to the debate, Matthews spent days pointing out Hillary's supposed foibles and when he was finished bad mouthing her he would smile and say: "That's what Barack Obama should say." Again, he sure stepped out of the role of a commentator who shouldn't take sides. And when the debate was over, his first words were to start in again over Hilary's supposed 2 sided answer to the illegal immigrant driver's license. What is so 2 faced about saying "it makes sense," without agreeing that it should be done? That's a fair statement, not a flip-flop. Anyway, Tim and Chris, you both stepped over the line onethical journalism.

  • Posted By: adamskr @ 10/31/2007 4:28:59 PM

    Comment: abrooks8-you are as far off as you say the naive liberals are. I am neither naive or gulliable. I consider myslef well-educated, articulate and politically savvy. Your opinion is important and debate is what makes our politicals system work. But you do mot suplly facts for your very general and incorrect statements about Clinton. It seems you are the naive one that buys into the negative bias of the other candidtes and their double-speak. Why can't they sell themselves as the next president of the United States. The bashing they did on Hillary was exactly what we see on grade-school playgrounds. Name-calling because they don't have anything worth saying.

  • Posted By: NeedlessLosses @ 10/31/2007 4:20:34 PM

    Comment: We are approaching half the worlds defense spending and we have a CIA budget that exceeds total defense spending for all but a few of the largest militaries. Our troops are exhausted in Iraq and our VA hospitals have become an embarrassment since they were "privatized". And yet, I didn't hear anything about the gross mismanagement of our defense spending - which does not in any way suggest that we are weak on defense if we start managing our assets properly.

    and I just didn't see the passion in the Democratic candidates that the Greedy Old Party (GOP) has for doing brain surgery with a chain saw in Iraq.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 16:32:11

      Comment: I don't know if you're aware or not but this country is fighting a war in two different countries right now, that "could" explain why this defense budget is up and the CIA budget was increased (as it should have been) after 9/11. The agency was in dire need of money since the Clinton administration cut the CIA funding (thanks Bill!). The only thing you got right, sort of, was the comment about the VA hospitals being an embarrassment, they are, but only because they're run by the government ... and to think the idiot Democrats think we could have universal healthcare for the entire country.

      The answer isn't bigger government it's smaller government, just wish some people would wake the hell up and realize socialism is what the Dems want to bring to this country. I for one have no interest in it.

      • Posted By: dotymed @ 10/31/2007 21:10:12

        Comment: Paul H. you're not very smart. The "new deal" saved America and it was pure socialim. We now have corporate-fascism running our country.We are figting two countries that use leftover '81 russian rifles. Before these "wars" fool our defense spending was higher than all of the other countries COMBINED. You shouldn't even be allowed to speak publicly. You show your lack of common sense every time you open your mouth.Socialism? Anything would be a great improvement of corporate-fascism. Or are you afraid you might actually have to work or sacrifice for the common good? yuck...............

      • Posted By: NeedlessLosses @ 10/31/2007 19:12:43

        Comment: Paul H: You are dead wrong about the costs of the war which is paid for through special appropriations that are above and beyond our annual budgeted defense funds which approach half of the world's total defense spending. And if you don't think are troops in Iraq are at the breaking point based on reports from most of our senior military officer, then you have absolutley no clue - but you do have an opinion. Our latest estimate in this war is that the cost could rise to $2.4 trillion when we were told that it would max uot at $50 billion and that we would be reimbursed by Iraq oil And this, plus, more importantly, the human costs, for a war that we did not need to fight.

  • Posted By: kjb79 @ 10/31/2007 4:05:40 PM

    Comment: I too was a bit discouraged by the debate last night. I felt Brian Williams and Tim Russert handled it quite poorly. There was so much Hillary bashing going on that the public rarely had the opportunity to hear the other candidates views on anything. I thought the Times was right to call the debate "pitched." I understand challenging Hillary, but who else was challenged? They don't like Hillary, we get it. Next topic already. As people of the media, they shouldn't let their negative bias of Hillary get in the way of carrying out a constructive debate. What's crazy is that in the last Republican debate we heard the Republicans make Hillary sound like she was a communist. In this debate, the Democratic candidates made her sound like she was joining the Bush Adminstration. You have to wonder, is Hillary really flip flopping on issues or do the other candidates simply want us to believe she is. Who is really saying what they think the public needs to hear?

  • Posted By: Canadianguy @ 10/31/2007 3:41:48 PM

    Comment: I've been following the debates (and politics generally) for a while now, and am consistently impressed with Joe Biden. He's smart, decisive, tough, charismatic and articulate. I think he'd be an amazing candidate. I cannot figure out for the life of me why he doesn't catch on with the voting public. My only guess is that his ideas are too complex and/or that the media just doesn't pay attention to him (and therefore, the public doesn't know him). Anybody have thoughts on this?

  • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 3:29:07 PM

    Comment: To all you gllible and navie liberals, just listen to Hillary's answers to all questions in this last debate. She answers all of them with doublespeak and outright lies and distortions. I cannot think of even one that she answered with any candor? Is this the best you have: more clinton equivocating doublespeak? Just answer the questions Hillary without blaming GW Bush for everything! For example, you blame GW for not passing the amnesty bill, yet he was for it! Ad you have a majority in houses! Truth: the American people want straight answers, and not twisted and turning blame sessions, they want truth and honest answers!

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 16:35:22

      Comment: Sadly enough the Dems don't seem to understand, Clinton is nothing but a fraud. She has no position on anything other then wanting to take the world's greatest healthcare system and put it in the hands of our government.

      This government can't even give provide solid healthcare for our military and we're to believe they'd be able to handle our whole country? Simply a joke.

      She has done nothing to qualify her for President to this point, nothing.

      • Posted By: kjb79 @ 10/31/2007 16:58:30

        Comment: Paul H, if you think this is the world's greatest healthcare system, you obviously haven't been injured in a real long time. For your benefit, I hope you don't get sick and end up in debt from the bills that your insurance company refuses to pay. Boy, are you living in a bubble.

        • Posted By: skyz @ 10/31/2007 23:50:25

          Comment: the world's greatest health care is available here in the usa - however it is not available to all or even most of our citizens - if we can afford to kill a million people we can certainly afford to grant medical care to all our citizens - and if you think you are covered because you work and pay for your health care you might have a really nasty shock coming your way if you or your dependents ever are diagnosed with a very serious condition - just because you pay for catastrophic health insurance does not mean your insurance company will pick up the tab when you desperately need them - those children who are uninsured are the people who will be if they are still alive working to keep things afloat when you are hoping you will be playing golf - you need them to be healthy and well educated - an investment in them is an investment in your quality of life - don't be so short sighted - it is not wise

        • Posted By: Cal_Culus @ 10/31/2007 19:08:56

          Comment: It's interesting to me how there are those amonst us who wish to have a 'Government Sponsored' healthcare system and are upset about the cost of the military and CIA! It's very interesting because if you took a moment and looked at what the Government is 'now' spending on healthcare, i.e. Medicare and such, you will find that there is much more spent on healthcare and socialistic programs than that of the Military! Further, it wasn't the intent of the Federal Government to take care of 'most' of what it has been taking on for the past number of years! The reason that healthcare is so dang expensive, not to mention why Social Security has its issues, is because of fraud and abuse by those that have their hands out . . . either those who don't deserve it and take it or those who are providing services and 'over charging' simply because they can . . . and then there are those who litigate for malpractice and then the lawyers who take advantage of all of this. The money that is being spent by the government isn't grown on trees . . . its provided by 'us' the people of the U.S. via taxes. Democrats believe . . . If I give you a fish you will eat today . . . Conservatives believe . . . If I 'teach' you to fish you will eat for life!!! I want the freedom to fail and to feel the satisfaction when I succeed. Try it sometime . . . you may just find that there is some goodness in getting what you truly deserve as opposed to just simply taking what you want!

        • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 17:08:25

          Comment: No actually I'm not in any bubble. I just believe it isn't the governments job to provide healtyhcare for you, me or anyone. That responsibility falls on us. Sure I would love to see the prices fall, but under no circumstance do I want it to fall on our governments shoulders.

          You want further proof of the ineveitable doom with universal healthcare then look at the government run VA hospitals ... completely inadequate, and look to France and Canada and you will see people unhappy with what they're receiving.

          I suggest you look at the facts a little closer before telling me I'm living in a bubble.

  • Posted By: Shotti @ 10/31/2007 3:27:47 PM

    Comment: Shame on Tim Russert and Brian Williams for their performance as moderators of the debate last night. I think Russert was upset from the last debate he moderated in which Hilary firmly refused to answer a hypthetical question. It seemd that the entire NBC crew ganged up for an assault on Hilary well before Obama, Edwards and Dodd let the mob attack. It was on of the worst debate we will witness. It is one thing to disagree on issues, but personal attacks show desperation. Actrually for the last two weeks or so Chris Mathews was whipping up the frenzy with Howard Fineman and others. And it is all for the rating. I thought Russert was better than that. I recall when Mathews was all gung ho behind Bush and Cheney's invasion of Iraq, because it was a popular thing to do after 9/11. As it turned into a blunder, nobody could criticize Bush more than Mathews. Now the Democrats race had a front runner in Hilary by a large margin therefore it was not attracting that many viewers in the evening or Sunday morning talk shows, hence, this promotion of attacks by the media, particularly by NBC media; again all for the rating.

    If Obama and Edwards are going to follow what the media wishes, what kind of President either one would make, although I confess that Edwards does not need much help to be so pathetically negative most of the time. Dodd is smart , but he has no hope whatsoever. The kind of mess we are in Iraq, it does not give you many great options, so it has to be handled wisely and I am sure whichever candidate becomes President, she or he would do the right thing except may be Kucinich, who is bright but unrealistic about immediately pulling out of Iraq.
    Hilary voted nameing the elite guards in Iran as terrorists. She did not authorize Bush to attack Iran and trust me it is not going to happen, because it would destroy Repulican party. I continue to believe Obama can be a good leader one day, but he has much to learn. Edwards is getting desperate. Hillary will eventually win the nomination.

    Posted BY: Shotti Kawlra

  • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 3:19:59 PM

    Comment: Sorry, media bias: What Hillary said was not even quoted in this article in Newsweek. What did she say to get attacked? Hillary was talking doublespeak and melted down horribly in this debate, yet Newsweek will not "Go there" in her answers about Iran and driver's licences for Illeagals. Newsweek=the Democratic party headquarter advertising machine.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 16:38:39

      Comment: Most of the mainstream media is bias to the Libs ... nothing new.

      I loved watching the real Hillary Clinton come out last night. Anyone who supports giving illegal immigrants anything doesn't deserve to be President, it's that simple.

  • Posted By: gszasz @ 10/31/2007 3:19:48 PM

    Comment: BS, Thank you for a well considered articulate post. I disagree with your conclusion. When Hillary Clinton was fist elected senator, it was a fairly close election. New Yorkers are savvy, well informed and difficult to fool. When she was re-elected she won the majority of republican districts that she lost in previously. This has nothing to do with Bill Clinton. Hillary works extremely hard and has earned a reputation as an informed and competent legislator. It's unfortunate that so many just hate her without reason. John Edwards many be a great tort attorney but was basically a failure as a senator. In fact, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd have far more significant records of achievement and are in fact the heavyweights in this campaign but lack funds. If choosing between the lifetime achievements of John Edwards and Hillary Cinton your right, it's no contest. Hillary wins and the polls show that I'm not the only one believing this..

  • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 3:04:58 PM

    Comment: This whole article proves media bias. Hillary is not even quoted as to what she said! Instead, it;s all about how Hilary wethered the attacks. What attacks? What did she say? Try as you might, msnbc can't cover up what she said. In one sentance, she took 2 different positions on illeagal immigration, and then blamed the Bush administration! And she never answered the question. Do you favor driver's licences for illeagals or not? yes or no? her answer, a type of B clinton doublespeak, speaks volumes And msnbc should be pointing that out instead of acting like a cheerleader for the Democrats.

  • Posted By: abrook8 @ 10/31/2007 3:01:16 PM

    Comment: This whole article is an example of liberal media bias, and it proves just how gulible and naive liberals are. Hillary did not answer the question about driver's licences honestly, and that fact what she actuall said was not even quoted in the article. Instead, the whole tenor of the article was to say how sad it was that poor Hillary was attacked and how she wethered the attacks. With reporting like this, who needs a Democratic party headquearters? You have it already at msnbc

  • Posted By: BS Whacker @ 10/31/2007 2:54:41 PM

    Comment: Reading the poists here, I can't help but to think that folks are looking for some form of perfection. Or looking for Mr. Gore to ride in like the 7th Cavalry (Better late than never?). Anyway, Gore is where we need him. Meanwhile, I look for the guy (or gal) with whom my values harmonize the best. No one is point-by-point perfect, so we really need to look at where we are at as a nation and as citizens of this world. For what it's worth, the Democratic party has a long-standing tradition of standing up for all of us. It also has a long-standing tradition of being at the cutting edge of who we are as a nation. Joe Biden and Bill Richardson have deep and broad knowledge of foreign policy; each has shown that he is far more qualified for Secretary of State than Condi Rice, as has Coin Powell. Both of them have at least 25 years of expeience over Barack; at this point right now, that's what I'm looking for in a Secretary of State. As far as I am concerned, that leaves John Edwards and Hillary Clinton. Hillary is too cute by half for my taste - and for what it's worth, we do need to break away from thei entitled dynasty thing. I'm left with Edwards - and I do believe that his life and what he has learned from it makes him the best choice for our President, and the best successor to G. W. Bush. John has proabably the best strategic understaning of the major issues facing our nation, and has the mental flexibility and tenacity to make every day he's President better than the day before. For me, it comes down to "You gotta feel it!" That's Edwards ... and that's where Hillary comes up short, by a country mile.

    • Posted By: Paul H @ 10/31/2007 16:40:58

      Comment: This election really is a simple one folks ... do you wish for capitalism or socialism. You want capitalism, you'll vote Republican .... socialism, Democrat. It doesn't get any easier then that.

      The Dems won't be happy till they're controlling everything in our lives.

  • Posted By: Lisa_McNiece @ 10/31/2007 2:31:31 PM

    Comment: Ok Johnnyboy, are you really that uninformed. Finally been attacked....she is first and foremost a women in a so called man's world, secondly she is a mother, which is constantly a challenge and thirdly she is an attorney. Face attack is what she does best.....so yes the answer is she can face attack, she's been doing it all along.

    • Posted By: johnnyboy @ 10/31/2007 14:50:37

      Comment: first you'll notice that attack was in quotes. What happened was NOT an attack. She is a flip flopper never gives a straight solid answer. I will agree with you that mothers don't get enough credit, most are awsome. I don't have a problem with a Female President just not HER.

  • Posted By: ellalee @ 10/31/2007 2:24:30 PM

    Comment: I agree with the quoted comment below. There is no equal opportunity in the campaign arena. The media keeps reporting about who has the most bucks. So it comes down to cash, name and face recognition, and who the media reports on. I'm disgursted with this whole thing and the first primary is at least 2 months away. Hey, media! Can we please hear about more than just Hillary Clinton? There are better people for the job than ANY of the "top tier" candidates, but America won't consider them until you start talking about them! Joe Biden and Bill Richardson are both experienced, honest, moderate, have deep understanding of foreign policy, and even have presidential images. They are leaps and bounds more qualified for the presidency than Clinton, Obama, or Edwards. They are not polarizing characters who could never swing a red state (like Hillary). They are serious policians, not just celebreties. They say things that are true, not just things people like to hear. They would have an actual shot at defeating whichever gun-slinging yahoo the right ends up nominating, if they could get any camera time. Hillary is maybe the 5th best person for the job on that stage - let's hear about the others, please!"

  • Posted By: brad2008 @ 10/31/2007 2:22:30 PM

    Comment: Its about time some of the canadites actually expose hillary for what she truly is, a flip-flop conartist. I cant believe people actually fall for her stances or lack there of. everytime she was asked to state where she stands on an issue she backed away and/or switched positions two minutes later. At lease the other canadites know where they stand and dont have to consult with their campaign managers on what policy sounds good enough for the particular people listening. And what is up with the claim to have 30 years experience? Last time i checked she only had one term as senator under her belt. Being married to a politican doesnt count. Otherwise Nancy Reagan would have over 45 years. What a joke. I dont think this will hurt her in the polls because americans, most of them, are too dumb to realize it. Those that do already are in the 50% of americans that wont vote for her under any circumstances. I wonder why this is. It couldnt possibly be that forked tounge she uses so freely...or could it?

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