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'The Situation Has Become … Unacceptable'

Turkey's ambassador warns that patience is running short. The military option is open.

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  • Posted By: KUFU @ 02/22/2008 6:50:39 PM

    Time to reply to Apostallian Now for his comment on 11/06/2007 9:23.22 am : Patience is a virtue for Turks. They never lean on others but themselves. History is full of their courageous wars, losses and victories. They have established 16 empires throughout their 4000 year past and never been a slave nation to any other. Maybe therefore they are not only well known as deadly warriors, but managed to govern their region with no conflict they can not over come.

    So follow todays news and also wait for days to come. Yes only members of the nations accepting slavery can be called brats. As you may bear a grudge against Turks, sorry to think so, but you or your ancestors might be members of those lived in slavery, but never could show the courage to fight a war without leaning on the others. So go back to history 101 and learn more about before to talk about. Watch the news and see how Turks sacrifice their life and blood (like the color of their flag) to protect their Nation as they always do against anybody regardless of their ethnicity. Do not count on some traitors to win against this nation. History showed it otherwise so far.


    As you might have forgotten your history I just wanted to remind your biased comment below.

    apostallians Comment : When is turkey going to quit be the worlds biggest cry-baby,they act like a badly behaved brat who doesnt get its own way.Quit leaning on the other countries for help all the time.You boast of being a great power,but i think you are afraid of the Kurds and all of this threats is only shadow-boxing.


  • Posted By: TooDamnDumb @ 11/02/2007 4:16:30 PM

    The Turks are great chess players and lousy poker players. They do not bluff. None of their leaders are draft dodging chickem hawk neo-cons. The fight wars on battlefields not newspapers. When they crash over the border we will do nothing because Bush has broken the military. We will sell out the Kurds because the Turks have a 500 plane jet fighter forvce with the same planes we have. They have 100 divisions on active duty about 100 miles from the border. They are the finest trainned army on Earth They have never lost a NATo war game with us..They stood by us for 50 years. The reason the Soviets never tried to attack across the Fulda Gap into Western Europe is they knew that 500,000 Turkish Oscars would be crashing into their exposed southern border. If we let our neo-cons screw up our only ally that has never let us down, it will be even a greater disaster than this stupid war itself. Get ready for the 2 million Kurds we let come over here, to save them from Turkish retribution. It will be Saigon 2008 as we evacuate our brand new embassy in Baghdad. Let the Turks take over the place. They ruled it for 500 years and must know a thing or two about playing one bunch of fanatics off against another.
    Toodamndumb.

    • Posted By: KUFU @ 11/02/2007 6:35:39 PM

      Turks has the patience to act wiser than us. Just remember Cyprus. After yerars of Greek atrocities Turkish army intervened and no more blood shed since 1974. For around thousand year they are in this geography and governed more land than US had today for 400 years. Now all they desire is to protect their citizens regardless of ethnicity and they are entitled and capable of doing that. LET THEM do what they know best to do to protect themselves from the bloody pkk terrorists and baby killers as we are now trying to do as well.

      • Posted By: jules007 @ 11/09/2007 12:37:53 AM

        Comment: I completely agree with Kufu's comments about the Turks knowing what they're doing. I disagree with the comment below that the Turks are cry-babies. The Turks are more than capable of standing up for themselves. Every male over the age of 18 is required to do 15 months compulsory military training. The US should butt out and let the Turks do their thing. Get rid of the PKK now! The Turks know what they're doing. Let them do it....

      • Posted By: jules007 @ 11/09/2007 12:33:24 AM

        I completely agree with Kufu's comments about the Turks knowing what they're doing and I didsagree with the comment below that the Turks being cry-babies. The Turks are more than capable of standing up for themselves. Every male over the age of 18 is required to do 15 months compulsory military training. At the moment, all they're trying to do is appease the US, because at the end of the day, it's the US that are the dangerous ones.... it's all about the oil for them, nothing else. I think they should butt out and let the Turks do their thing. Get rid of the PKK now! They know what they're doing. Let them do it.

  • Posted By: john K @ 11/08/2007 9:08:58 PM

    i think that the U.S is being too controlling. We need to let other countries help us more. We talk about being short on troops, well allies can help us too. If we combine our forces there is a better change to stop the PKK terrorist activities by the border and ultimately settle a large dispute.

  • Posted By: apostallian@embarqmail.com @ 11/06/2007 9:23:22 AM

    When is turkey going to quit be the worlds biggest cry-baby,they act like a badly behaved brat who doesnt get its own way.Quit leaning on the other countries for help all the time.You boast of being a great power,but i think you are afraid of the Kurds and all of this threats is only shadow-boxing.

  • Posted By: John Jacob @ 11/06/2007 12:20:59 AM

    Couldn't Jeffrey Bartholet muster the courage to correct the Turkish ambassador when he falsely claims that historians need to look at the Armenian issue, as if there is the need to clarify what already is proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the Ottoman Turks carried out a systematic campaign of genocide? Couldn't Mr. Bartholet muster up the courage to remind the ambassador that the only reason the American administration and, ultimately the Congress, shelved the Armenian genoicde resolution becasue it was not the right time and NOT because the veracity of the Armenian genocide is doubtful?
    Turkey is simply trying to "milk" the US for whatever services this "good friend" of the US provides.

  • Posted By: John Jacob @ 11/06/2007 12:19:20 AM

    Couldn't Jeffrey Bartholet muster the courage to correct the Turkish ambassador when he falsely claims that historians need to look at the Armenian issue, as if there is the need to clarify what already is proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the Ottoman Turks carried out a systematic campaign of genocide? Couldn't Mr. Bartholet muster up the courage to remind the ambassador that the only reason the American administration and, ultimately the Congress, shelved the Armenian genoicde resolution becasue it was not the right time and NOT because the veracity of the Armenian genocide is doubtful?
    Turkey is simply trying to "milk" the US for whatever services this "good friend" of the US provides.

  • Posted By: martatan @ 11/04/2007 7:08:01 PM

    The politicians in Turkey seem to be acting with restraint given current public opinion. I visited Turkey from the US twice in the space of about 15 months, and the mood completely changed. In several earlier trips, the people in Turkey were very friendly. This September, they were distant. At least five people asked me why Americans hate the Turks; others expressed the opinion that they would like to visit the US with the same freedom enjoyed by American tourists, but getting a visa is impossible because they're considered undesirable. The perception seems to be that there's a real double standard. For example, if Americans are attacked by terrorists, all allies should back them up with military action against the terrorists; but if Turks or other allies are attacked, they should refrain from any action.

  • Posted By: DC VA MD @ 11/03/2007 9:44:55 PM

    Turkey has approximately 80 million population and 30 million of that are the people with Kurdish origin. The country is directed by 550 house representatives and close to 200 of those have also Kurdish descent. Anybody who doesn???t believe this can check previous Turkish president, Turgut Ozal???s background in Wikipedia, who was also of partial Kurdish descent. According to Reuters news released Sun Oct 28, 2007, 12:12pm ET, 30000 people were killed since early 1980s. If a fanatic group calling themselves as a ???party??? and causing so many peoples??? death by bombing the military stations and killing the civilians including Kurdish villagers how much would you believe their ideology that saving 20 million Kurds in Turkey and giving them freedom when Kurds in Turkey can be elected even as a president? Why 2 million Kurds in Iraq are so much interested with 20 million Kurds??? rights in Turkey when more than 3 million of them are living even in Istanbul?

  • Posted By: DC VA MD @ 11/03/2007 9:43:25 PM

    Turkey has approximately 80 million population and 30 million of that are the people with Kurdish origin. The country is directed by 550 house representatives and close to 200 of those have also Kurdish descent. Anybody who doesn???t believe this can check previous Turkish president, Turgut Ozal???s background in Wikipedia, who was also of partial Kurdish descent. According to Reuters news released Sun Oct 28, 2007, 12:12pm ET, 30000 people were killed since early 1980s. If a fanatic group calling themselves as a ???party??? and causing so many peoples??? death by bombing the military stations and killing the civilians including Kurdish villagers how much would you believe their ideology that saving 20 million Kurds in Turkey and giving them freedom when Kurds in Turkey can be elected even as a president? Why 2 million Kurds in Iraq are so much interested with 20 million Kurds??? rights in Turkey when more than 3 million of them are living even in Istanbul?

  • Posted By: free radical @ 11/02/2007 4:04:37 PM

    I think its very unreasonable that the U.S. has asked Turkey to remain quite in all this. The Kurdish terrorists are killing the Turkish people and it is the duty of their gouvernment to take action. How can you fight a war on terror by ignoring fanatic groups that exist to terrorize.

  • Posted By: apostallian@embarqmail.com @ 11/02/2007 1:08:39 AM

    Who cares what turkey thinks,their pm is going all over with a crying towel.What they want is someone to help them in their incursion into Iraq.They are afraid of the Kurds who are armed fierce mountain fightersThey want the OIL,OIL.

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