‘What She Can’t Do Is Have It Both Ways’

Dems aren't interested in truth I guess ..

Dems aren't interested in truth I guess ..

"I think she was being disingenuous."

Why ask her wjen you brought the subject up?

Most of you complaining about Obama "mudslinging" have no idea what mudslinging is. Comparing Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing Kerry of self-inflicting his wounds in Vietnam, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing McCain of fathering a black love child, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing Hillary Clinton of being a closet ***, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing Obama of practically being a sleeper agent, THAT???S mudslinging. John Edward???s ???Barber-gate???, and being accused of pimping out his cancer-inflicted wife, THAT???S mudslinging. Criticizing your opponent , whether those criticisms are valid or not, is NOT mudslinging. If Clinton is as thin-skinned as most of the posters here, then God help her in the general election.

Most of you complaining about Obama "mudslinging" have no idea what mudslinging is. Comparing Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing Kerry of self-inflicting his wounds in Vietnam, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing McCain of fathering a black love child, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing Hillary Clinton of being a closet ***, THAT'S mudslinging. Accusing Obama of practically being a sleeper agent, THAT???S mudslinging. John Edward???s ???Barber-gate???, and being accused of pimping out his cancer-inflicted wife, THAT???S mudslinging. Criticizing your opponent , whether those criticisms are valid or not, is NOT mudslinging. If Clinton is as thin-skinned as most of the posters here, then God help her in the general election.

PART THREE
"The tape proves the Clinton administration was aggressively tracking al-Qaida a year before 9/11. But that also raises one enormous question: If the U.S. government had bin Laden and the camps in its sights in real time, why was no action taken against them?
Bob Kerry, a former senator and current 9/11 commission member, said, ???The most important thing the Clinton administration could have done would have been for the president, either himself or by going to Congress, asking for a congressional declaration to declare war on al-Qaida, a military-political organization that had declared war on us.???
In reality, getting bin Laden would have been extraordinarily difficult. He was a moving target deep inside Afghanistan. Most military operations would have been high-risk. What???s more, Clinton was weakened by scandal, and there was no political consensus for bold action, especially with an election weeks away."
The Republicans launched a massive attack on Bill Clinton, dragging him through all the crap regarding Monica Lewinsky, as a distraction, so Bin Laden could get away! So, once Bush stole the election, they could launch their plan of a war with the middle east. All they needed was their event like *pearl harbor* with our *#1 enemy Osama*, and they were in business. They got what they needed, Osama is still free, and Bush and his cronies are rich, rich, rich!
Bush and Bush 42 led us into Iraq. Nice try though.

PART TWO
Rwanda - Rwanda was a tragedy, one that Clinton personally apologized for. "With the failure in Somalia still very much in the minds of American policymakers, neither the United States nor the United Nations moved aggressively to stop the slaughter."

Kosovo - In 1999, Clinton moved with NATO to begin a massive bombing campaign against the Serbian government to end its "ethnic cleansing" of Albanians in the Kosovo region. Specially trained forces from the Serb Interior Ministry, along with paramilitary forces that had been active in Bosnia years before, had created hundreds of thousands of refugees through the application of this policy; Serb forces also murdered thousands of ethnic Albanians. But the bombing worked and, with the help of Russian diplomacy, forced the Serbian government to withdraw from the region. With no American battle casualties during the fighting, U.S. troops joined British, French, and other NATO forces to occupy Kosovo as peacekeepers under an agreement worked out with Yugoslavia. The province remained nominally part of Yugoslavia, but the Kosovars had gained autonomy, and the possibility of eventual independence. Clinton's forceful stand in Bosnia and Kosovo enhanced his foreign policy resume.

Disbarred - For 5 years. Clinton agreed to the Arkansas fine and suspension Jan. 19, the day before he left office, as part of an understanding with Independent Counsel Robert Ray to end the Monica Lewinsky investigation. The agreement also satisfied the legal effort by the Arkansas Supreme Court Committee on Professional Conduct to disbar Clinton for giving misleading testimony in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case. Who wouldn't cop a plea to avoid a sex scandal? Ask any republican, and they will agree.

Clinton pardoned 3 more during his presidency then Reagan. He received 2000 petitions. Mark Rich's pardon was supported by Scooter Libby, so there probably was something fishy about it. HAHA Clinton was never convicted of wrong doing. The presidential pardon is the right of the president. He did what he did. As for Hill's brother, who wouldn't pardon their family? He served his full term in jail, and it was for a cocaine charge. As for him taking money to get his friends pardons, maybe he needed the money for drugs? haha anyway he gave the money back, and they are not responsible if he was lying to them. Every family has their black sheep, no?

Failure to capture Bin Laden - Oh my god! You just made me realize what happened!?! Clinton's failure to capture Bin Laden was because he was mired in scandal! (Am I a little slow on this one?)

Clinton had been on the hunt for Bin Laden, they were tracking him, and had satellite images of him. So, if the Clinton administration was so close to finding Osama, and were actively seeking him, why did Rice and the Bush administration treat Osama like a non-threat, before 9/11, and in their comments after 9/11??

Reply to Hitch and Don_1111 - It is long, so I have to break it up in three parts.

PART ONE:
Somalia - you mean when the troops were sent in by Bush 42? That Somalia disaster? The failure of American troops to be properly equipped for the mission, which led to the resignation of Secretary of Defense Les Aspin, was in part responsible for the failure there. An operation that was being managed not only by UN headquarters in New York but also by dozens of contributing governments.

Bush 42 was warned:
"There is little reason to believe that the bitter and long-standing clan rivalries that have turned Somalia into a particularly murderous African Lebanon will yield to outside intervention???. Tragic as the situation is in Somalia ??? the dissolution of the Somali nation-state does not affect vital USG security interests. Accordingly, USG should think???and think again???before allowing itself to become bogged down in a quagmire without the promise of offsetting concomitant benefits."

In December 1992, in one of his last acts as President, George Bush proposed to the U.N. that United States combat troops lead the intervention force. The U.N. accepted this offer and 25,000 U.S. troops were deployed to Somalia. President Bush stated that this would not be an ???open-ended commitment.??? The objective of Operation Restore Hope was to rapidly secure the trade routes in Somalia so that food could get to the people. President Bush stated that U.S. troops would be home in time for Bill Clinton???s inauguration in January.

Once President Clinton was inaugurated he stated his desire to scale down the U.S. presence in Somalia, and to let the U.N. forces take over. In March 1993 the U.N. officially took over the operation, naming this mission UNOSOM ??? II. The objective of this mission was to promote ???nation building??? within Somalia. One main target was to disarm the Somali people. UNOSOM ??? II stressed restoring law and order, improving the infrastructure, and assisting the people with setting up a representative government.

President Clinton supported the U.N. mandate and ordered the number of U.S. troops in Somalia reduced, to be replaced by U.N. troops. By June 1993, only 1200 U.S. troops remained in Somalia. However, tragically, 18 soldiers died in Somalia the Battle of Mogadishu.

Perhaps committing troops to a country in the middle of clan warfare, when advisors reported that it was too risky, in the final month of office was not the smartest move by Bush 42. Blame all you want, but this was not a Clinton failure.

Hillary can have it both ways Barack! You're losing and so is Edwards. How's that for an honest approach.

I will be very happy when people begin to realize that this campaign should not be about what Bill Clinton did while he was in office. If so, then maybe Bill should run. Is he the one truly running? I find it quite ironic that Bill and Hillary have dismissed the contributions of his cabinet members and the brillance, talent and intellect he surrounded himself with during his administration, including but not limited to one of the best sec of state, Ron Brown and Al Gore, his vice president. These folks didn't ride in on the Clinton Arkansas wagon. Furthermore, have you obama bashers thought to look at the economic climate in Arkansas during Clinton's administration as governor. Compare that to the decline in our climate during his administration and his failure to take the threats of the taliban serious. Some of the major problems we are having today are a result of Bill and I presume Hillary's pillow talking.

Perhaps once in a lifetime (and perhaps not that often) the American public has the opportunity to elect a president as brilliant, honest, and genuine as Barack Obama. Someone with the natural abilities and knowledge to succeed on a grand scale, who cares more about the country and its people than the power, influence and money that comes with the job (or in Hilary???s case, a designation in the history books as the first U.S. woman president). We Americans continually do things that are shockingly stupid - like reelecting George Bush even though he had proven his incompetence over the prior 3 years. For the future of the nation and the world, can't afford to get it wrong this time.

Perhaps once in a lifetime (and perhaps not that often) the American public has the opportunity to elect a president as brilliant, honest, and genuine as Barack Obama. Someone with the natural abilities and knowledge to succeed on a grand scale, who cares more about the country and its people than the power, influence and money that comes with the job (or in Hilary???s case, a designation in the history books as the first U.S. woman president). We Americans continually do things that are shockingly stupid - like reelecting George Bush even though he had proven his incompetence over the prior 3 years. For the future of the nation and the world, can't afford to get it wrong this time.

Everyone seems to think the a presidential candidate is supposed to be omniscient and omnipresent. They don't need to know everything; that is why they have advisors and Secretaries of Defense, et cetera. They only have to make a final decision based on what advise they have received. A candidate only needs a path and a plan. How they achieve success is through their advisors, et al.

As for those who believe Barack Obama is where he is at today is because of the Clintons, someone really needs to go back a little further in history. Clintons had nothing to do with putting Barack or anyone else where he is today. I think Robert Kennedy had a lot more to do with helping minorities achieve positions they are able to attain today.

No matter who you like. VOTE. If you don't, nothing you say here means anything.

Let's clear something up. Hillary is riding on the coat tails of her husband and skirting the issues. The US isn't that stupid and we are ready for a real change. Obama is the next president.

Obana has no clue which direction to go. Hillary and Bill made Obama he should never forget that Clinton made him!!! Had it not been for Clinton Obama would just be an unknown now he has the nerve to attack the Clinton's the way he does. If Obama was smart he would have pushed his stupid ego aside ran vice to Hillary and after the next 8 years he would have gotten the experience to be President. If Obama gets to be President of USA he would be the most smart ass, spoiled leader we have had. As a Black American Male i would never vote for him-not now!