Haunted By HIV’s Origins

Read THE RIVER, a journey into the source of HIV and AIDS, Edward Hooper. He researched over 4000 scientific texts and did over 600 interviews, Arvid Noe, a bisexual Norwegian sailor, is the earliest european aids case, possibly infected in Kenya in 1964. He then became a truck driver and had contacts with German homosexuals. At the time, Haiti was a popular vacation spot for gays, Germans included. It was also a stopover for two archival airline steward who dies of aids. Since type B is not an African type but branched off them later, it is impossible to know who first infected who. Certainly, at a very early stage, the disease was traveling both directions. As to the we gave Africa aids comment, Hooper agrees. The medical community might stonewall, but the first cases of aids appeared after 900000 in central Africa were given the Wistar/Hillary Koprowski oral polio vacinee, probably grown in Belgium. Suggested, but never admitted by Koprowski, is the implication that the final substrait in the attenuation of the vaccine was chimpanzee kidney tissue. In 1985, bood smples taken in Stanleyville, Congo were tested for HIV. One tested positive. It is the ealiest. The year the sample was taken was1959, Stanleyville was vaccinated in 1958.

if you really waqnt to know where the HIV comes from. Watch this video. Worobey's research has a lot of biais. The Haitian or Africa did not bring Aids to the world, but the western world brought it to Africa. Wathc this...
http://davidmcqueen.blogspot.com/2007/01/origin-of-aids.html

If you really want to know where the HIV comes from watch this video. http://davidmcqueen.blogspot.com/2007/01/origin-of-aids.html

There are a lot of poor countries, and most of it is due to internal corruption within their own country. I wish America could feed every person in the world, but to expect us to is ridiculous as it's not possible. The help needs to come from within, but if the powers that run these countries aren't willing to save their own people, our hands are tied. A lot of people expect America to solve the world's problems, but are the first to bash us. The reason why America is so great, is because the people that live here work together to make their country great. A lot of poor countries are run by dictators that suck up all the wealth and let their people starve. The people of these countries need to make their own governments change to work for them, instead of looking for other people to solve their problems. We can't do it all for them, without their pulling their own weight and accepting their responsibility for their governments.

How do you find the origin of such deadly virus after millions of people died and continue dying from it? why any and every deadly disease(s) are usually originated either a third world country or the mother land AFRICA? Must i rise my child to believe that the white man can do no wrong, except inventing and creating goods . His-story teaches us that being black is a curse. Black people rarely get any credit but instead demoralising us. The haitians have absolutely nothing to do with the HIV/AIDS virus. I don't believe it's originated in AFRICA. If we really want to know where it came from, let's start questionning the american and the european government. must i say the " ILLUMINATI. " As a super power we predict the future, we arrange for the future. Why didn't we tackle this epidemy earlier on? There is a cure for the virus but remember that we are living in a capitalist system, special interest at its best. Their idealogy is " THE WORLD IS OVER POPULATED WITH NON-WHITES " woww " LET'S DETROY THEM SLOWLY BUT SURELY"

It is meaningless to blame. If you want, yoiu can do something for those HIV patients, do something to prevent the spreading of HIV. If you can not do these things, you can simply go to blog of forum of HIV personal and support site like pozgroup.com to support the members.

I don't think the research was being racist. Anyone who knows anything about HIV/AIDS knows it has nothing to do with race, religion, or creed. It affects everyone. The research is being done to help better understand this horrible Virus. In order to better understand something, you need to know where it came from, and how it has evolved since. Only then can they truly understand how the virus works. this is an attempt to stop this virus not spread blame. Those of you who think otherwise get a life!! If all you have time to do is pull the race card than you definately need one. oh btw b4 I get hate male my brother is poz and has been for years as have several of my friends and I emplore the research that is being done.

these postings seem like one pathetic whine that has nothing to do with the facts in the article. Every disease has an origin... plague did, cholera, ebola, etc. Some started in Haiti, some in Europe. These are the facts. Get over yourselves! Stop whining!

In response to: As a young haitian man living in the greatest and the worst country in the world "AMERICA" , this humiliating comment is the continuation of oppressing people of color. **********

This new research wasn't meant to be racist. To pull the race card here is ignorant. No blame was placed on the Haitians. Worobey even says "Haitians are blameless for the spread of HIV. They were simply hit earlier."

Also, I'm wondering why a young haitian man is living in America, if he thinks it's the worst country in the world? You're not imprisioned here. There are plenty of imigrants that would be honored to have the opportunities you do.

In response to: As a young haitian man living in the greatest and the worst country in the world "AMERICA" , this humiliating comment is the continuation of oppressing people of color. **********

This new research wasn't meant to be racist. To pull the race card here is ignorant. No blame was placed on the Haitians. Worobey even says "Haitians are blameless for the spread of HIV. They were simply hit earlier."

Also, I'm wondering why a young haitian man is living in America, if he thinks it's the worst country in the world? You're not imprisioned here. There are plenty of imigrants that would be honored to have the opportunities you do.

worldlastbreed @ 11/14/2007 has the story just about right, except he left out the part about how the U.S. gov't has been run by extraterrestrials since about 1830, that's how U.S. science was advanced enough to create the Human Immunodeficiency Virus way back during the U.S. Civil War. Also, the ETs are racist, they hate all humans, but especially the darker colored homo sapiens around the world. The U.S. was actually established by humans, which is why the Declaration of Independence is so good, and why the Constitution is so ideal. But ETs came to colonize this planet, and they decided the U.S. was the best base from which to launch world domination so as to exploit Earth's resources (including its people, which they still use as slaves). Also, the truth of the U.S. Civil War is that it had nothing to do with slavery or states' rights -- it was all about a dispute between two factions of ETs over which was the best way to create a race of human slaves on the planet, starting with the humans of the U.S. Since then, the ETs have made sure to foment race disunity, so whites and blacks will never come together as a single race, the HUMAN RACE, because if we do, we'll present a powerful opposition to the ET conglomerate.

worldlastbreed is on the right track, but left out the part about the extraterrestrials who have been running the U.S. gov't since about 1830. The U.S. Civil War had nothing to do with slavery or states' rights -- the truth is it was fought between factions of extraterrestrials who were colonizing Earth, starting with the U.S. Both factions were racist, which explains why we still have racisim to this day. If it wasn't for extraterrestrial scientific knowledge the young U.S. would not have been able to create HIV in the lab. The virus was first used against slaves and former slaves, but quickly spread to the Caucasian community, which didn't bother the E.T's. because it makes way for more colonists to come from outer space.

For me, the biggest take-away is that Americans spread HIV throughout the world. I'm not a scientist, but follow this logic. HIV began in Africa and mutated from monkey's to humans either through consumption of monkey meat or some other means. Infected people travel to Haiti and infected a few more folks. Then, infected people move to the US and the disease spreads rapidly. Worldwide contagion did not happen until after the disease spread to America. Therefore, Americans spread HIV throughout the world. I think Worobey's study needs to be re-examined carefully, but the obvious seems to jump out at me. Even if HIV originated in Africa and incubated in Haiti, it was neither Africans nor Haitians that spread the disease. I don't mean to point the finger, but if we want to look at the facts and follow "breadcrumbs" it seems the obvious is staring us all in the face.

You might want to double check the death date for Gaetan Dugas, I found several sources which say 1984.

You might want to double check the death date of Gaetan Dugas...