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  • Posted By: Nyquil Jones @ 11/08/2007 6:02:26 PM

    It is so easy to suggest that testing is somehow biased and unfair. What is never discussed is an alternative. These teachers that are we are supposed to just trust to do their job, without standardized measurement, are all to often uninterested in doing just that...their job. If the students fail the test at least a red flag is raised for an administration to determine the reasons. Also, for each of these 'conciencious objectors' (whom I believe truly teaches and cares about his students) there are a half dozen slackers coasting to retirement. Where is the outrage from these teachers about that undeniable situation? I would like to also discuss the rampant molestation of students by this same 'saintly' bunch, but I haven't the time or the space.

  • Posted By: Nyquil Jones @ 11/08/2007 6:00:34 PM

    It is so easy to suggest that testing is somehow biased and unfair. What is never discussed is an alternative. These teachers that are we are supposed to just trust to do their job, without standardized measurement, are all to often uninterested in doing just that...their job. If the students fail the test at least a red flag is raised for an administration to determine the reasons. Also, for each of these 'conciencious objectors' (whom I believe truly teaches and cares about his students) there are a half dozen slackers coasting to retirement. I would like to also discuss the rampant molestation of students by this same 'saintly' bunch, but I haven't the time or the space.

  • Posted By: msaccullo @ 11/08/2007 6:00:17 PM

    I agree. The debate also needs to examine what these tests are doing to critical thinking in our classrooms. This year in my Middle School, the English teachers are teaching directly to the English Language Assessment and ignoring teaching English. The authors meaning, moral lessons and the reader???s personal interpretation do not matter anymore. Students simply practice the skills which will benefit them on the test.
    I teach Social Studies and I have my classes do research and create websites which they use to teach their fellow classmates. We engage in debates, do mock court trials, perform dramatic historic plays, create PowerPoint presentation, and use Photo Story 3 to tell historic stories with pictures and music and more. The Social Studies Assessment which my eighth grade students will take at the end of the year is incapable of measuring any of this learning. If my students numbers drop by one percent, did I do a poor job with my students? The truth behind the testing is that it is there to serve the politicians who need an issue which they can rally the voters around. It also is there to try and get teachers who are not doing the job to work and perform at a higher level. That should be achieved in other ways, because the great teachers who care, constantly must sacrifice curriculum enrichment for their students to put aside time to teach to the test.

  • Posted By: ellenwestSC @ 11/08/2007 7:20:15 AM

    That which is important can not always be tested.
    That which CAN be tested, is not always important.

    • Posted By: msaccullo @ 11/08/2007 5:56:46 PM

      I agree. The debate also needs to examine what these tests are doing to critical thinking in our classrooms. The English teachers are teaching this year strictly to the English Language Assessment and ignoring teaching English. The authors meaning, moral lessons and the reader???s personal interpretation do not matter anymore. Students simply practice the skills which will benefit them on the test.
      I teach Social Studies and I have my classes do research and create websites which they use to teach their fellow classmates. We engage in debates, do mock court trials, perform dramatic historic plays, create PowerPoint presentation, and use Photo Story 3 to tell historic stories with pictures and music and more. The Social Studies Assessment which my eighth grade students will take at the end of the year is incapable of measuring any of this learning. If my students numbers drop by one percent, did I do a poor job with my students? The truth behind the testing is that it is there to serve the politicians who need an issue which they can rally the voters around. It also is there to try and get teachers who are not doing there job to work and perform at a higher level. That should be achieved in other ways, because the great teachers who care, constantly must sacrifice curriculum enrichment for their students to put aside time to teach to the test.

    • Posted By: msaccullo @ 11/08/2007 5:52:47 PM

      I agree. The debate also needs to examine what these tests are doing to critical thinking in our classrooms. The English teachers are teaching this year strictly to the English Language Assessment and ignoring teaching English. The authors meaning, moral lessons and the reader???s personal interpretation do not matter anymore. Students simply practice the skills which will benefit them on the test.
      I teach Social Studies and I have my classes do research and create websites which they use to teach their fellow classmates. We engage in debates, do mock court trials, perform dramatic historic plays, create PowerPoint presentation, and use Photo Story 3 to tell historic stories with pictures and music and more. The Social Studies Assessment which my eighth grade students will take at the end of the year is incapable of measuring any of this learning. If my students numbers drop by one percent, did I do a poor job with my students? The truth behind the testing is that it is there to serve the politicians who need an issue which they can rally the voters around. It also is there to try and get teachers who are not doing there job to work and perform at a higher level. That should be achieved in other ways, because the great teachers who care, constantly must sacrifice curriculum enrichment for their students to put aside time to teach to the test.

  • Posted By: Artful962 @ 11/08/2007 5:06:06 PM

    "Aural" refers to hearing. The object of an aural test is for the examiners to hear and separately comprehend the responses and thoughts of the person examined. Thanks for the splendid example of "standardized" blogging.

  • Posted By: misspeggy7 @ 11/08/2007 4:47:26 PM

    I am an E.L.L kindergarten teacher at a school where 75% of our students are African refugees. These students are expected to take this test just as American born students are without any modifcations for language, not to mention culture. The whole law, in my opinion, is absurd and will only cause false judgements on schools like ours.

  • Posted By: wadebeck @ 11/08/2007 12:56:39 AM

    There should be some type of achievment scale in place to determine (rightfully) that progress has been made with a studen'ts capability of learning. I see nothing wrong with that whatsoever. What I see wrong is so many opposed to the idea that leads me to believe that maybe our children are not learning to the extent they should be. Teachers should not be against the idea of higher learning.

    • Posted By: misspeggy7 @ 11/08/2007 4:43:42 PM

      I teach in a school where the student population is approximately 75% African refugees. I am an E.L.L. kindergarten teacher and feel very honored to be able to do what I was born to do. The No Child Left Behind Law does not exclude or modify testing for our students. These students are supposed to be able to take this test just as any other American born student. Therefor, our school is "judged", if you will, on these absurd expectations. The whole situation grieves me because it isn't an accurate way to measure a child's learning.

    • Posted By: andypompei @ 11/08/2007 1:41:01 PM

      I'm a teacher, and teacher's aren't opposed to the idea of higher learning! What we are opposed to are the strict mandates these tests put on some of our students (many of whom are English Language Learners) as well as our schools (it is also unfair to expect students with disabilities to take the same test). The test is biased, and although there are some positives, they are outweighed by negatives and NCLB needs to be revised. To say that we are against higher learning is outrageous, we're teachers because we love children and want to be able to provide them with the best opportuniities we can so that they excel in life. I commend this teacher for taking a stand and for creating a dialogue about this topic.

  • Posted By: fakedaisies @ 11/08/2007 4:41:44 PM

    To slarue: Here's the reference you're referring to: "If we had an aural language assessment [a test using the spoken word], for example, we'd have different test results that would show less of a gap between those groups."
    For your information (and not trying to sound catty, by the way), but "aural" is a word, and it's being used correctly here. "Aural" is a word referring to sound, like "auditory." An "aural" test is where a child hears a word spoken, then defines the word aloud.

  • Posted By: fakedaisies @ 11/08/2007 4:41:09 PM

    To slarue: Here's the reference you're referring to: "If we had an aural language assessment [a test using the spoken word], for example, we'd have different test results that would show less of a gap between those groups."
    For your information (and not trying to sound catty, by the way), but "aural" is a word, and it's being used correctly here. "Aural" is a word referring to sound, like "auditory." An "aural" test is where a child hears a word spoken, then defines the word aloud.

  • Posted By: slarue @ 11/08/2007 3:38:17 PM

    oral is spelled ORAL not aural.

  • Posted By: ChloeBodenhamer @ 11/08/2007 3:21:31 PM

    To be quite honest, I believe that Mr. Wasserman was right in his ways. He did it in a respectful manner; he let the principal of the school know what what was going on beforehand. If the principal objected to it, just as the district officials claimed to, he would have notified someone of higher power. These standardized tests are exactly that: standard. They do not benefit "Higher Learning." They just prove to the state that some students are perfectly capable of doing actual guesswork, or that other students do or do not know how to fill in the circles of the answer sheet. Don't get me wrong, as a highschool student myself, I support trying to get every student up to speed and not leaving a single one behind, but there comes a point where enough is enough. I congratulate Mr. Wasserman on his conscientious objection. I only wish more teachers had the gaul to do the same.

  • Posted By: speechlis @ 11/03/2007 3:33:52 PM

    Mr. Wasserman, you rock! I work in a middle school, and was in a meeting recently to identify students who need "remediation" to bring up their test scores. The assistant principal made the comment, "Well, it's not like the teachers aren't teaching the test." First, level the playing field a bit. Get an immediate and hassle-free exemption for anyone on an IEP. Then get rid of merit pay for high test scores. That would be a start. I support what you did, and wish my colleagues would do the same.

    • Posted By: derong @ 11/06/2007 11:10:27 PM

      The public school system is not the answer to educating children. The children are not the problem, nor are the teachers. The parents simply hand off this ritalin maintained zombies for the teachers to babysit.
      Instead of dealing with the problem, the government brain trust dreamed up these tests to try and make the schools educate the drugged masses.

      It hasn't worked in the past, it does not work now, and it will not work in the future. What is the answer? If a child is a disruption to the education process, remove that student from the school and put the responsibility back on the parents. Give the administrators and teachers the authority that is needed to maintain order in the classroom, and rely on them to make the student assessments.

      • Posted By: oc-mks @ 11/07/2007 2:27:19 PM

        Go derong!

        Parents are ultimately accountable for their child - why punish children who are motivated learners simply because their classmates are using public schools as a daycare?

        Children should have options. Families should have options. Children who are only there to pass the time can become products of this nation-wide child-manufacturing if they choose; but not at the expense of the children who are making an effort to learn, do and be interested! We need options for our kids!

        (I am technically still a kid, but I dropped out and homeschooled cause I just couldn't handle the restrictions my public school was placing on my education. I know from experience there are better ways to get a relevant, real world education. It's up to the parents, families and kids.)

        • Posted By: Jersey13 @ 11/08/2007 2:19:43 PM

          Parents should keep their kids home on test days. This would send a message to the state that we aren't going to take it anymore. School systems should be held accountable;however, every situation is different. Perhaps we should all go to a national school system and every written word should be dictated by "Big Brother." We could all be one glorified Cuba or China.

  • Posted By: wking167 @ 11/07/2007 12:53:45 PM

    The law holds schools acountable for the childrens progress. Both my children have graduated with the law and I here to tell you the high scoll has gotten better. They are more focused. The kids have got to be able to take written tests. Colleges still look at sat scores. Lets demand that teachers do their job and quit making excuses for their own ineptatude.

    • Posted By: notperfecteither @ 11/07/2007 2:48:59 PM

      Check your spelling and your grammer

    • Posted By: JNS8604 @ 11/07/2007 3:31:56 PM

      It is a teachers job to teach the information. It is the parents job to make the child pay attention. It funny how you think the school system should raise your children. This is ridiculous. Not every school has the same environment. The ones who do well are usually the ones who have parents push them for acheivement. If the student doesn't learn, then he won't learn. Unless these teachers have magical powers, lke they are God or something, we can't hold them 100% accountable. I do understad that there are some teachers out there who need to learn to teach better. But there are more who know how to do their job. Do you expect your children's teacher to teach the SAT to them. I don't think so. There is no way possible. No one is perfect. The test provided by the NCLB and the SAT are very biased. Depending on where you live in the SAT, your vocabulary is different from others. Can you tell me what a regatta is? I'm in college and there is many people who cannot answer that question. It was on the SAT for one of my professors when he was younger. By the way, it is a boat. The majority of people who can answer that question are usually in the small upper class. As a lower class citizen, I considered that as a biased question. I never learned that in school or from my peers. I actually only know that from a movie. Why don't you request to see a previous copy of the test and then you try to answer thos questions.

    • Posted By: officechick @ 11/07/2007 3:18:07 PM

      Posted By: wking167 @ 11/07/2007 12:53:45 PM
      Comment: The law holds schools acountable for the childrens progress. Both my children have graduated with the law and I here to tell you the high scoll has gotten better. They are more focused. The kids have got to be able to take written tests. Colleges still look at sat scores. Lets demand that teachers do their job and quit making excuses for their own ineptatude.
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      To the person who left this comment: Before you bash teachers and how they are handling education, how about you take a course in spelling and grammar? It's "Accountable," not "Acountable." How exactly does one "graduate with the law?" "I here to tell you the high scoll" makes absolutely no sense. It's "S.A.T.", not "sat." Finally, it's "ineptitude," not "ineptatude."

      I'm sure your children are geniuses, seeing as how their own parent can barely form fully comprehendable sentences.

  • Posted By: KEIOKA72 @ 11/07/2007 3:35:12 PM

    I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND MR. WASSERMAN FOR TAKING A STAND. I BELIEVE THAT THE TESTS ARE EXTREMELY BIAS. WE LIVE IN THE SOUTH, HOW CAN OUR KIDS ANSWER REASONING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ON A SNOW DAY? THEY CAN'T IT SNOWS ONCE EVERY 20YEARS OR SO HERE. I THINK THE TEACHERS TEACHING THE KIDS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE UP THE TESTS BECAUSE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN TAUGHT AND WHAT THE KIDS SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH. THE "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" IS A JOKE. THE NUMBER OF KIDS THAT ARE TRUELY LEARNING COMPARED TO THOSE WHO NEED ADDITIONAL HELP, AND ARE RECEIVING THAT HELP ARE SO FAR OFF. MY FRIENDS ARE TEACHERS, AND WHEN A STUDENT IS FAILING AND SHE IS TOLD TO PASS THEM ANYWAY, I GUESS THAT "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" MEANS.

    • Posted By: morrisr @ 11/08/2007 12:59:06 PM

      Do you consider yourself to be literate?

  • Posted By: luckylady2410 @ 11/07/2007 6:28:16 PM

    Mr. Wasserman was correct in the action he took and by expressing his Constitutional rights. We need more teachers in our country that are willing to do what is best for our children and teach them. We send children from their parents and families to schools were we are expecting teachers to teach our children the basics and how to be individuals. As parents we trust teachers, maube it is the teachers who need testing. From the comment by "momof4here" she is right in taking her children out of the school. There are many teachers who are only teachers because they like having the summer of with their families. The are many teachers who need to retire, but they don't have too, they should be tested. Hey, let the students and parents test them and see how they would be judged on their scores...call it the "The No Teacher Gets A Free Pass Law". There have been problems for decades, I am 42 and my parents took me out of public school when I was in third grade.

    • Posted By: sarah9843 @ 11/07/2007 8:07:29 PM

      By the way you write, it seems they took you out before you learned to communicate in the English language.

      • Posted By: morrisr @ 11/08/2007 12:56:38 PM

        did you go to school anywhere else? On the FCAT (Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test) this writing samply would not score much higher than a 3rd grade level!

      • Posted By: morrisr @ 11/08/2007 12:55:46 PM

        Did you ever go back? On the FCAT, your writing as exhibited here would probably put you just about at a 3rd grade level ! !

  • Posted By: morrisr @ 11/08/2007 12:50:20 PM

    He should not be paid for the day he did not work.

    There are EXCELLENT assessment tools available. If this teacher doesn't like the assessment tool chosen by his State, he should work with them to create a better tool.
    I'm curious how he envisions proctoring an aural exam to 30ish students at the same time ! ! !

    I'm not aware of any research which supports his claim that an aural format would benefit the "majority of kids"?! Or that the "majority of kids" are not accurately assessed in their reading, writing, and mathematic skills and abilities by a well designed, written test?

  • Posted By: GermaineDvorak @ 11/08/2007 10:56:06 AM

    I commend this man for standing up tp the Administrators! Most teachers sit and talk and gripe in the lounge rather then taking a stance! Children should be taught to learn not taught to take tests! Their learning process is haulted in order for them to learn how to take these test. Large of amount of stress is placed on the schools to test out perfectly rather than standing out for their academics! Germaine

  • Posted By: GermaineDvorak @ 11/08/2007 10:50:52 AM

    I am prou dof this teacher! Teachers are teaching kids how to take tests. Their academic learning process is haulted in order to do this. I say let teachers teach and let children learn. Germaine

  • Posted By: jack_arrow @ 11/07/2007 12:52:11 PM

    This law is a good thing. Teachers are not accountable for their actions. One teacher's style may not get through the basic skills that students need to have. I recently graduated from a private school that was exempt from most of the tests and I was left behind when I went to college because the teachers did not teach us much. They just had a laize-a fair attitude towards everything. I worked hard and learned on my own, but the teachers SHOULD be held accountable for not doing their jobs. After all, they have the NEA which won't let the teachers be held accountable for not doing thier jobs.

    • Posted By: kesmom @ 11/08/2007 10:43:13 AM

      I notice that you went to a private school. If you felt that way, why did you continue to go there?

  • Posted By: aspenjule25 @ 11/08/2007 9:55:45 AM

    Mr. Wasserman is right! As teacher we are taught that we need to teach to the various learning styles in our classroom, so that every student has the opportunity to learn in a meaningful way individual to them. We are also taught to use multiple assessment methods for the same reasons. Why then, are such high stakes placed on a test that addresses only one learning style? I took a class for my Masters where we delved pretty deeply into this matter and I realized that there is a lot that parents and teachers can do to try and turn the tide here. The only problem is, teachers who openly oppose this like Mr. Wasserman come into danger of losing their jobs. I think of it like this: What if Martin Luther King Jr. and other civil rights leaders had never dared to stand up for what was right...all the while risking their lives? If enough people stand behind this, change can, and will occur.

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