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  • Posted By: xksmx @ 11/07/2007 4:19:10 PM

    I would like to say BRAVO to David Wasserman. Teachers are basically "teaching for the test". Kids are not learning how to question, critically think, or develop learning/thinking skills that will take them much farther throughout their educational careers than test taking skills. The job of a teacher is demanding as it is, but to teach only for the test throughout the year makes it much tougher. I most definitely agree that this is something we need to be sure our local and federal government officials are aware of. At some point, we need to be able to improve our educational system to a point where we are producing quality young minds in quality systems. Thanks for keeping this issue in the forefront David Wasserman!!
    ksm

  • Posted By: moragamom @ 11/07/2007 4:18:57 PM

    I applaud David Wasserman. I have two children - one with a learning disability and one who is gifted and in the GATE program. Because of the "No Child Left Behind" law my two children are graded on the same bell curve which makes it very difficult for her to get an "A". I also recently found out that because of this law, I can make no modifications to her high school curriculum or she will not receive a diploma when she graduates just a "Certificate of Completion." "No Child Left Behind" is leaving MANY special needs children behind. It has also taken the "Joy" out of teaching because the teachers are only teaching what is on the test.

  • Posted By: globalqueen1 @ 11/07/2007 4:13:43 PM

    Thank you David. You have covered one part of the problems that children are facing in today's education. As a substitute teacher another problem that I have found it that since our local high schools have removed vocational classes from the school many of the students will have nothing to do but low paying jobs after graduation. College is great but many kids either do not have the means or want to continue to higher education. I think we need to include the bricklaying, carpentry, sewing, etc. in the school so that these kids will have a marketable skill upon graduation from High School. Everybody is not going to go to college, so we are letting those kids down by not offering them some sort of marketable skill.

  • Posted By: fike4ecu @ 11/07/2007 4:01:18 PM

    I agree 100%. The intent of the law was to ensure that race, economic status, and handicap would not limit a child in receiving a quality education. However, it has become a tool to measure nothing. If a school has 20 yearly objectives and meets 19 of the 20, it is a failure. Only in this law would 95% mastery be seen as an "F." Nothing has changed over time. There are academically advanced children, there are average children, and there are academically challenged children. That bell curve still has the majority in the middle. The tests are designed to put everyone in the middle or above and that is just not possible.
    When you raise the bar so high, some kids realize (through one of their 8 intelligences) that the bar is out of their reach, and they quit school. Think about a short person. If you physically raise a bar so high that the person cannot jump up and reach it, after a while, they quit trying to jump. You will have the over-achiever who will eventually reach it, but the majority won't. That is what NCLB has done. Now they label schools that have many drop-outs as "drop-out factories." NCLB simply raised the standards out of reach, so most quit rather than continuing to jump in a futile effort.
    Shannon Fike
    SCSDB
    Spartanburg, SC 29302

  • Posted By: akey @ 11/07/2007 3:58:40 PM

    Colorado administers these tests also. These do not reflect what the kids know. Ask most of them and they just fill in the bubbles in patterns, because they hate taking these tests. My son should have been held back when he was in 1st grade. He has had horrible problems in school. I requested and fought to have him held back, but was denied by the Principal and school board the reason "No child left behind". He is now a Junior in High School and has a reading and math level of a 6th grader. In a year he will be out in the real world. How did this help him? Congratulations to a teacher that will stand up for what is right. I wish more teachers would stand up to the law makers.
    Our own (Former) Governor took the test, but he's test scores were never released to the Media.

  • Posted By: akey @ 11/07/2007 3:48:57 PM

    I have disliked the Colorado CSAP tests that the "no child left behind law created" also. I wish more teachers would take this stance. I'm a parent of a student that Should have been left behind in second grade and was denied(I requested him to be left behind) , but because of this STUPID law he is now a Junior in High School and tests at a 6 grade level. What does this say about our Future?

  • Posted By: Curmudgeon @ 11/07/2007 3:48:55 PM

    When are we going to realize that the primary purpose of public education has little to do with educating children? Public education has become a laboratory for the latest educational "theories", social engineering, political correctness, and a forum for the teachers' unions, not to mention a self-perpetuating bureaucracy primarily concerned with moving large sums of money from one place to another.
    As a retired teacher with 28 years experience, I find it amazing that the dedicated teachers (and there are still many, though their numbers are dwindling) can continue to motivate students despite the incredible roadblocks that the local, state, and federal bureaucrats place before them. The pressure on these teachers to prepare and organize stunning amounts of paperwork, presumably to go into a file somewhere, never to be seen again, and the demands of teaching to standardized tests which measure little, leave little time to truly connect with students.
    Public education is broken, and I don't really know if it can be fixed.

  • Posted By: mommy1 @ 11/07/2007 3:42:32 PM

    I'DE SAY WE AS PARENTS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT IN OUR COMMENTS HERE.....I SAY WE PASS THIS POST ON TO THE PROPER GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, SO THAT THEY CAN SEE HOW CLUELESS THEY REALLY ARE ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING TO "OUR KIDS".....PARENTS, TEACHERS, STUDENTS UNITE!!!!
    AMEN

  • Posted By: ml329 @ 11/07/2007 3:42:03 PM

    I am glad someone spoke up about this, especially a teacher. The truth is there are children who need to be left behind. There are many reasons, imaturity, student-teacher conflict, losing a parent, etc, all these can affect learning, but passing them on to the next grade will only put them further behind, and when , or if they do make it to college they will see what a great injustice was done. We are so worried about their self-esteem, you'll worry more when your child can't make in this world because you didn't want them left behind, when the real reason was YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED!!!!!. i'LL EMBARRASSEMENT ANYDAY IF IT MEANS MY CHILD WILL GET THE EDUCATION NEEDED.

  • Posted By: texasmortarman @ 11/07/2007 3:36:18 PM

    Way to set a civic example there Mr. Wasserman. Let us all continue to take your lead and dress sloppy, have unkempt hair, and a scraggy beard while picking and choosing what laws we wish to follow. I know that is just how I want my children to look and behave while they struggle to read the want ads and scrawl their poor handwriting on job applications at the local burger joint.

  • Posted By: Curmudgeon @ 11/07/2007 3:31:11 PM

    Public education has nothing to do with educating children. It has become a gigantic test tube for social engineering, a sounding board for political correctness, a source of free day-care for working parents, and an enormous bureaucracy that exists simply for the sake of moving money from one place to another. As a retired teacher with 28 years experience, I consider it a miracle that the majority of our children turn out as well as they do. The dedicated educators of the public school system help children achieve in spite of, not because of, the efforts of the local, state, and federal public education bueaucrats.

  • Posted By: KEIOKA72 @ 11/07/2007 3:31:06 PM

    I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND MR. WASSERMAN FOR TAKING A STAND. I BELIEVE WE AS PARENTS NEED TO DO THE SAME. OUR CHILDREN ARE FALLING BY THE WASTESIDE, WHILE THE SCHOOLS ARE ISSUING THERE STANDARDIZED TEST. THESE TESTS ARE EXTREMELY BIAS. WE LIVE IN THE SOUTH, HOW CAN OUR KIDS ANSWER REASONING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ON A SNOW DAY? THEY CAN'T IT SNOWS ONCE EVERY 20YEARS OR SO HERE. I THINK THE TEACHERS TEACHING THE KIDS SHOULD BE ALLOWED MAKE UP THE TESTS, BECAUSE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN TAUGHT AND WHAT THE KIDS SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH. THE "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND" IS A JOKE. EVERY TEACHER AND PARENT THAT IS OPPOSITION OF THESE TESTS SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND TAKE A STAND FOR OUR CHILDREN, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. GOD BLESS YOU!

  • Posted By: mommy1 @ 11/07/2007 3:28:26 PM

    WOW...IDE SAY WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT IN ALL THESE POSTINGS'.......WE SHOULD FORWARD THIS INFO TO THE PROPER GOVERMENT OFFICIALS SO THEY CAN GET A CLUE AS TO HOW CLUELESS THEY ARE!!!!! PARENTS, TEACHERS, STUDENTS UNITE!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Dixie @ 11/07/2007 10:34:07 AM

    The No Child Left Behind law is not what is sounds like. It's actually a way to leave minority and poor schools behind. When a school does poorly on the tests they are punished instead of given help. Things are taken away from them and given to schools that are already doing well. It's a very backward law that does what the United States is so used to doing...it gives to those who already have and takes away from those who don't have. The NCLB law is a discriminating law to keep the poor and minority children down and to continue to give more and more to the privledged.

    • Posted By: vvaughan @ 11/07/2007 3:25:05 PM

      It has also caused a terrible backlash of discrimination for children with disabilities. If you can't score on a test you just do not count and you are indeed left behind.

  • Posted By: das4198 @ 11/07/2007 1:34:03 PM

    Congratulations to Mr. Wasserman. I had just stated at a teachers' in-service yesterday that, as educators, we should all be protesting the fact that all we get accomplished in the classroom since "No Child Left Behind" went into effect is to teach to the test. Our children are no longer learning how to think as individuals, nor are they learning skills that would help them to survive as adults. We are trying to teach our young adults to think like robots. I am getting ready to retire in the next year or two. I have to say that I am no longer proud of what I do, because I have been instructed to teach without imagination.

    • Posted By: vvaughan @ 11/07/2007 3:22:34 PM

      It is so sad. I wish we could band together nationwide. Our voices need to be heard. Good luck and best wishes for your retirement, I am sure you have earned it!!

  • Posted By: coach9458 @ 11/07/2007 3:22:23 PM

    Does anyone out there understand that NCLB requires that states measure yearly progress, but it is up to the states to determine how that progress is measured? Is NCLB perfect? No, but it has exposed some of our schools who had such low expectations for their students that they were doing little more than warehousing them. In the age of SAT and ACT scores determining which colleges a student can go to, it seems that a teacher that refuses to allow his students to be tested is not protecting the students, he is hiding his own incompetence.

  • Posted By: atkinsonsta @ 11/07/2007 1:38:20 PM

    I grew up knowing I wanted to teach. I went to one of the top teaching colleges in my state. The college spoke of No Child Left Behind but no one every really told us what it meant. The first semster I taught 3rd grade. I quickly realized the horror of NCLB and couldn't believe someone actually thought this was a great idea. In fact NCLB sets us back decades. In school we learn all the different learning styles and how to help students on so many levels. Yet, our government chooses to administer one type of test. How can someone think this makes any sense. I spent so many hours thinking about ways to engage and promote thinking with my kids. It was all for nothing. The county I taught in required so many hours a day spent on "teaching the test" that I didn't have time for activities that would really promote true learning. I think David is brillant. I choose not to teach anymore. I choose not to be a part of the cruel testing nazis.

    If any parents are reading this, you need to take an active role in this. You are truly the people that can make a difference. Talk to people in your community, talk to your local and state governments. It should be called ALL Children Left Behind. Its just smoke and mirrors. Its a fancy name given to a terrible law. It sounds great, who wouldn't want all children to succeed. The fact is it sets goals that are unachievable and uses tools that don't even test to see if those goals are being met.

    • Posted By: vvaughan @ 11/07/2007 3:20:39 PM

      You are so right. Parents must be the guiding force. Also, teachers need to band together and stop being so compliant and afraid to speak out. Without us there is no education! We need a nationwide protest by all teachers. I am sorry you gave up teaching. Different districts do handle things differently as does each principal. Try again?

  • Posted By: AnaD @ 11/07/2007 3:17:58 PM

    Thank You David Wasserman! Our children need to be prepared to exist in the real world and not educated to pass a test. We need to be reaching our children in the way that they learn, not some blanket education that prepares them for what?

  • Posted By: vvaughan @ 11/07/2007 3:17:01 PM

    Thank you, thank you Mr. Wasserman. Teachers must be more vocal about the many problems we face in our educational system. We certainly are not consulted. As a special education teacher I have seen descrimination on the rise since this act came in to place. We were becoming an integrated part of our school until test scores suddenly became more important than anything else. My students became invisible, the progress they made, and struggled to make, was considered worthless. It is heartbreaking and unacceptable. If America wants to get the educational system back on track put the teachers in charge!!

  • Posted By: AnaD @ 11/07/2007 3:14:27 PM

    Thank you David Wasserman for taking a stand! Our schools need to educate our children, not teach them to jump through hoops. Is this what we consider education today? Our children should love to learn and be prepared to function in society with their "public" education.

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