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  • Posted By: vvaughan @ 11/07/2007 3:09:09 PM

    Thank you, thank you. The citizens of this country must wake up! Education is the future and yet we do not seem to value it. The government and the public need to treat educators with the respect they deserve instead of with incredible distrust. We have been trained to teach, we know what we are doing yet we are not consulted about important issues such as this. Continue the good work.

  • Posted By: lvemykurlsmom @ 11/07/2007 3:01:45 PM

    During my daughters open house at school her teachers discussed what they would be studing...math that is not in the books provided so they are just winging it with worksheets and a notebook, history starting with anciet egypt thru WWII. All so they can pass state exams in February.... just over halfway through the school year. My daughter has all A's except in Math so she does not qualify for advanced placement in our district and is bored to disruption so teachers can make sure NO CHILD IS LEFT BEHIND... In reality not all children learn at the same pace or to the same level. In concept this is a fantastic idea but it obviously not working...instead of producing a healthy range of abilities to the workforce, we have carbon copy mediocre graduates.

    Thank you Mr Wasserman for speaking up for all the children

  • Posted By: Nash530 @ 11/05/2007 8:12:38 AM

    Unfortuneatly I am involved in the school system and the NCLB is a disaster in the state of South Caolina. The version here is called PACT. The issue I have is half of the teachers still don't teach to the standard test criteria and then in the end the educators use it as a means to hold kids back. This is total crap. No accountability for anyone but the kids and they are simply pawns for our screwed up government to play their chess game with. Now how about the advanced kids. NCLB means no kids pushed forward, and they are held back from excelerating. Our district decided this year to share our Excel teacher with other schools and cut back time spent with a handfull of advanced learners.
    Our government needs to take this NCLB and stick it where the sun don't shine.

    • Posted By: oc-mks @ 11/07/2007 2:59:02 PM

      Public school is a straight jacket for kids who want to go above and beyond what is offered in the class room. Parents need to get involved and ask for options that fit their childs needs and interests.

      I just "graduated" (homeschool style,) I dropped in 6th grade out to pursue my favorite skills and interests and impove my horrid spelling (which my public school teachers could only shrug at.) I am not going to college either because I have better things to do. I'm getting ahead, I refuse to be hearded around like a cow!

      If your child is self-motivated, give them the space and tools they need to advance!

  • Posted By: tnkmarsh @ 11/07/2007 2:54:16 PM

    It is fine to disagree with the NCLB and I personally do. What I don't like is the lack of discussion around possible and probable options to the NCLB. NCLB came about because students were getting DRASTICALLY different educations from different school districts - many of which correlated with their community and socio-econmic level. We need a system that guarentees a similar education from EVERY school in every state. Where is the complaint and/or better solution for the students receiving a lower education due to poverty?

  • Posted By: roberts4145 @ 11/04/2007 10:27:03 PM

    Bravo - Good for you. I am amazed at the longevity of the standardized testing as an accurate means of evaluating student progress. Fortunately as a student, the only standardized test that I faced was the SAT, but as a parent, I am shocked and disappointed in the amount of time that is dedicated toward teaching the TAKS (Texas' version of the standardized test). Teachers at my sons school are ashamed of the wasted time and effort, but they know that they have no choice in the matter - their jobs are dependent upon satisfactory test results. Standardized testing must end, it does not accomplish what is needed and I would argue that it has hurt our kids education more than testing has helped - can you believe in Texas that school administrators plan for an average of a 30% dropout rate for students in Texas high schools? How is standardized testing helping?

    • Posted By: MorganD @ 11/06/2007 11:04:58 PM

      I'm 16 years old and I've been an A and B student all of my life, yet I am a horrible test taker, I freeze up and I never do well. I'm being told that I have 3 trys to pass the TAKS test or I'll be held back another year. I personally feel I'm being left behind.. I work hard to earn my grades, yet the kids who don't pass their classes and earn their credits pass?! Why is that fair!? As for what roberts4145 mentioned about the school administrators planning for an average of 30% drop out rate, I believe it! Why? because they do NOTHING to help the students who truly need help.

      • Posted By: oc-mks @ 11/07/2007 2:50:15 PM

        MorganD-

        I'm 18 years old and I dropped out so I could homeschool. Public school only wants to heard kids like cattle. If you're not the type to homeschool or take sole responsiblity for your own education, I reccomend you find a program or charter school that will give you the tools and attention you need. I know how you feel, and there is NOTHING public schools will do to fix it. Ask your parents for help, find a mentor, get a job you're iterested it. There are a billions of alternatives to public school that will put you ahead. You need an option that will be interesting and do-able for you; public school is only holding you back!

  • Posted By: BobbieF @ 11/04/2007 1:57:30 PM

    How dare you suggest the Emperor is not wearing clothes. NCLB is a fiasco in every school district ih the country. It is counter productive to education. Teachers teach to the test and do no longer educate out children. Shame on those who support this. I bet they have not taught in a classroom in decades.
    We must educate our children and this law and test do the opposite.

    • Posted By: oc-mks @ 11/07/2007 2:42:49 PM

      How correct you are. The public schools have an agenda that goes against everything that encourages a motivated learner or educated person.

      - Seat time and attendance is the bottom line for public schools. Funds are obtained directly from the number of minutes a kid will sit in a chair regardless of whether or not he is educated.

      - All learning done in the class room is geared towards getting kids through these tests. In school, I was made to take classes on how to take a test! What a useless skill! Again, no mention of learning anything usefull... ?!!

    • Posted By: lvgolfer @ 11/07/2007 1:09:17 PM

      Not all teachers teach to the test but it sure puts pressure on teachers and schools to teach to the test so they make the REQUIRED improvements set up by NCLB and Mr. Bush

  • Posted By: deborabf @ 11/07/2007 2:40:02 PM

    My son is a prime example of everything that's wrong with high stakes tests. As a freshman in a Texas high school last year, he earned 15 A's and 1 B. This year, he currently has 7 A's and 1 B. His only B is in Advanced Placement Chemistry.

    When his senior year comes to a close, his class ranking will most likely be somewhere in the top 20%. It is not unreasonable to believe that he may score Commended on his Science, Social Studies, and Language Arts exit exams.

    However, he sustained a brain injury from a fall when he was 2 years old, resulting in a learning disability in Math. Because of this, it is quite likely that he will not be able to pass the Math exit exam. If this happens, he will be denied a high school diploma.

    There is something very wrong with this picture. A student who earns 90% A's and the rest B's should never be denied a diploma because they can't pass one measure of competency. Every other measure of his skills will prove that he has the competency needed to be a high school graduate and that he should be allowed to further his education in areas of strength, creative writing, journalism, social studies.

    We need to fix this problem now before more children are hurt.

  • Posted By: cboath @ 11/04/2007 1:20:39 PM

    If he doesn't like the test then he should run for public office or start a community program to change the law. However as an employee of the school system he knew he was required to administer the test as a condition of his employment. His failure to do so should have netted him termination from his position. I'm glad he was reprimanded and I hope if he pulls this stunt again his state certification is removed permanently.

    • Posted By: oc-mks @ 11/07/2007 2:35:54 PM

      cboath-

      Notice, however, that making the choice he did, in the position he's in put a much brighter spot light on the situation NATIONALY than had he simply sat on the district school board.

    • Posted By: OLDSCHOOL TEACHER @ 11/07/2007 1:58:18 PM

      Obviously you have no clue as to his real protest. YOU should learn more about NCLB and find that the real reason behind his protest is that more children are being left behind because of NCLB than are truly being served. YOU are probably a school administrator.

  • Posted By: tshulman @ 11/07/2007 2:32:38 PM

    The problem is not testing but the form of test that is being administered. Research has shown repeatedly that the types of tests that are being proctored do no test students on what is really important, their ability to critically think. Rather it tests student's ability to regurgitate the facts, and why do they test this way? Because it is the easiest form of test to evaluate. But really what good is a population who knos the facts but does not have the skills or ability to do anything with them? I can and will support testing when it tests the right skills, until then I will take my teaching license elsewhere.

  • Posted By: chandie @ 11/07/2007 2:26:42 PM

    Good for him for standing for what he believes. I always did great in class but was horrible at test. I am now a college graduate but probably would not have made it out of High School if I was going to school with the no child left behind law. I believe we are not teaching the kids important things such as mortgages, taxes, stock market, how to budget, how to start a business. I have so many problems with the school systems today and hope to see changes in my lifetime. Maybe I will be the one to fight for the changes.

  • Posted By: Heidi1164 @ 11/07/2007 2:22:15 PM

    I agree completely that these tests are poorly written, overly time consuming and inaccurate at best for determining the quality of the education our students are getting.
    But I think perhaps a bigger problem is how the results are tallied and acted upon.
    I don't disagree that schools should be held accountable for the quality of the job their doing. This gives them motivation to do their job the best it can be done.
    But it's ridiculous to arrive at a score based on right or wrong answers on 400 tests and then judge the entire school by it without taking a look at possible contributing factors to the individual scores - ie, a higher ratio of non-english speaking students at the school. True fact: whether the child can even READ the test he or she is instructed to mark an answer sheet. Am I the only person on the planet who finds that CRAZY!??
    What about schools who happen to have a large number of developmentally challenged students, who are unable to complete the tests on their "grade level" to the same degree as their classmates. These things should be factored in and a new score determined based on these key pieces of the schools make up.
    Not every school in the country has the same across-the-board average IQ student body. Just like human beings every school is different.
    I'd certainly never stack up to a college professor if required to take the same test as she/he. Would it make sense to require a secretary in the office to take a professors exam and pass or fail will determine whether they keep or lose their job? Ridiculous! Buts is a comparable scenario if you ask me.
    Shools in all cities are different from neighborhood to neighborhood and it's time for the parents of the children in those schools to voice the objections that we are discussing with each other at the dinner table and at parent/teacher conferences and at playgrounds while our children scamper around and in these posts!
    I haven't met ONE school staff member who supports the law as it currently stands.
    This is America people! Let our voice be heard! Write to every person in government whose email and/or snail mail address you can get. Whether they affect this laws writing or not, they surely know someone who does and they'll be talking about it over their lunches if we make enough noise. But we have to do it together!
    {{{stepping down from the soap box now}}} Thank you.

  • Posted By: oc-mks @ 11/07/2007 2:18:49 PM

    Public schools are becoming a communism. Grades are based on attendance rather than performance. Dividing children based on age rather than ability is too restrictive to some and too hard for others.

    "No Child Left Behind" is a dysfunctional program. I agree, children who are below grade level should be helped to meet benchmarks, however I propose a method can target these kids without placing restrictions on all students, teachers and schools.

    I dropped out of school to homeschool because public school felt like a waste of my time and abliities. My sister, on the otherhand, was getting left behind in public school. The school could not provide her the alternative schooling methods she needed; now that she is homeschooling, she is above her grade level in most subjects!

    We need options - not more standards, restrictions and finger-pointing!

  • Posted By: Tharpe6us @ 11/07/2007 2:18:35 PM

    I do not like the NCLB tests. I believe they take away from the teachers ability to teach and prepare kids for the future. I never felt these kind of tests really test a child's knowledge or ability. For some time I have been thinking about keeping my children home when these test are administered.
    Just as a note all four of my children are honor roll students and I have a doctorate in chemistry. Education is highly valued in our home.

  • Posted By: ebarrera1969 @ 11/07/2007 2:16:19 PM

    As proud parent of 4 kids, 3 which are in school at this time, I totaly support this teacher and protest. The politians need to stop thinking what is good for our kids and let the real educators do their job and educate the way they know how. We need to make this a major issue especially now that it is election time. The goverment is the one really leaving our kids behind with this standarized test. Give the power back to our teachers and leave politics out of it.

  • Posted By: cfrancis2 @ 11/07/2007 2:13:50 PM

    As a former elementary and junior high teacher, I got out after nine years for the simple reason that I got frustrated with all the NCLB paperwork that had priority over actual teaching. I spent more time documenting all the accomodations for tests and notes than I did teaching and I taught Physical Education.

  • Posted By: BobbieF @ 11/04/2007 1:51:11 PM

    How about No Teacher Left Behind? Let's pay our educators HALF of what pro football players make.
    Half I say. And support teachers like Mr. Wasserman who have the guts to stand up and say The Emperor Has No Clothes - NCLB does not work and never did. It is counter productive and shame based.
    Go Mike!!!

    • Posted By: birdie1 @ 11/07/2007 2:11:59 PM

      I love your idea...only let's pay the teacher's the FULL salary of the football players....and the football players what the teachers make!!!

  • Posted By: liljacksma @ 11/07/2007 2:10:28 PM

    Mr. Wasserman should be applauded for his courageous stand against the discriminatory educational policies of this country. Its too bad that more of the American public are not aware and informed enough to see the truth for themselves.

  • Posted By: ebarrera1969 @ 11/07/2007 2:07:26 PM

    I have to agree with this educator in Wis....I got 4 kids and 3 in school at this moment....I see it in them that this "NO KIDS..." is not working....I got 3 sister-in-laws that are educators and they all feel the same way....We need to buckle down these politicians do to something different or better yet, let the teachers teacher and they can just get out of the way. One thing is for sure, I trust my kids education more to their teachers then these politicians.

  • Posted By: teachernatalie @ 11/07/2007 2:05:34 PM

    I am a middle school Special Education teacher and I just want to say THANK YOU. As someone who deals with kids that do not fit the norm, it is very frustrating to know that at the end of the year I have to watch my children struggle with a test that does not show whether or not they learned anything that year. To make matters worse, I am held accountable to that score. Accountability is very important and necessary, but determining whether or not I did my job based on a test that many of my students can't even read well is insane. How does it make sense to judge my teaching skills based on a score that a student received on an 8th grade test when that's student's skills are on a 3rd or 4th grade level? Perhaps some of th people determining how we evaluate progress should talk to people in the classroom. Hey, maybe even try spending some time in those classrooms.

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