Dancing with the Dictator

How Bush's tight relationship with Pakistan's Musharraf has compromised the war on terror.

 
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  • Posted By: plaintruth10 @ 11/14/2007 11:43:11 PM

    Comment: CRICKETER IMRAN KHAN ARRESTED AS TERRORIST IN PAKISTAN !
    THAT MEANS ANYONE CAN BE ARRESTED AS A TERORIST!!
    INCLUDING BENAZIR BHUTTO,NAWAZ SHARIF AND EVEN 9 YEAR OLD SCHOOL STUDENTS !!!

  • Posted By: mohammad_allam @ 11/14/2007 2:41:09 AM

    Comment: This is the biggest challnege that the last days of Bush administration facing.Mr Musharraf has turned down the table of democarcy crusader with a challenege to his own master to do what you are doing around the world.Now it is taime of tast for American and democracy lover to meet the challenge.Are they ready to meet>Let see what happened?

  • Posted By: afype @ 11/12/2007 5:48:52 PM

    Comment: Mr. Musharaf is doing a ggod job. He is fighting the god hating terroists and other cutthroats. Thanks Mr Musharaf

  • Posted By: leodelaney @ 11/09/2007 7:46:29 PM

    Comment: There is one thing that is inevitable in this matter and that is that Pakistan will become an Islamic Republic and that it will do so sooner rather than later. The United States as usual has cast its lot with the wrong side, as in allying itself with Mussharraf it has tied itself to a viscious military dictator, the kind that never lasts. We are irrrevocably bound to a loser and we don't know how to get out or even to mitigate the disaster that is largely of our own doing. We should have pulled our support from Mussharraf back in 2000 when it became obvious what he was and that he could not survive. Bush had the opportunity, but like most of his predecessors he never saw a right wing military dictatorship he didn't like, and so we propped Mussharraf up until there was no possible way for Pakistan to achieve another government other than a civil war which must inevitably won by the Islamic National leaders.

    And so in the name of fighting the farcical "War on Terror" and containing the effforts of the few thousand fanatics around the world, who if truth be told pose us no threat, we have generated yet another large powerful state, opposed to us. Bush is not the first President to overlook the atrocities of those who we support because we believe them to be closer to our interests than the other side, but he is the first President whose actions have been so stupid as to create huge states, with whom we could be friends or at least partners, into avowed enemies. Pakistan, 165,000,000; Syria 20,000,000; Iran 75,000,000; Iraq 28,000,000 are all heavily opposed to the United States and most of the rest of the Muslim world is opposed to us because of our attitude toward these states and our general intolerance of the Muslim World. In Pakistan we have a chance to ease a little of the pressure by abandoning Musharraf and allowing the Pakistanis to choose their own next government, by boalot or by bullet, but not by our interference. However we won't do this because, at least our present leader, believes that we have to export "freedom," whatever that is and nobody in the Middle East cares or wants it, and "Democracy" which is even less understood and less wanted than "freedom." Never has a nation so endangered itself as has the United States in pursuing, in the light of all desires to the contrary on the part of the pursuees, the imposition of meaningless words on other peoples.

    It is time for the United States citizenry to stand up and demand that our nation come home and tend to its own problems and stop trying to give those problems to people who don't want them. We cannot police the world, we cannot change the world, we cannot remake the world in our image and above all we cannot force others to do our will no matter how hard we try. We have a lot of leanring to do and apparently we are led by the untrainable.

  • Posted By: nazia @ 11/09/2007 4:26:41 AM

    Comment: Pakistan is again under worst conditon and no doubt this situation come again on fulfilling the demands of US.Our corrupt and weak leadership are promoted and strengthened by US agencies and huge dollar funds. us recover dollar aid by making defence deals with the govt but that leave an enormous damage to our political and economic structure.At present the situation is like that US is threatening to stop aid to corrupt army mafia, Our coward generals are trying to haunt US governance by taliban activities that is absolutely and no doubt production of army.In this game of power Bhutto is also demanding her share by creating threat of public demonstration to army mafia. In this power pulling activities the most hiting targets are Lawyers,judges and media men and all anger of failed govt is being thrown on them. People of US are kindly requested to refrain their govt of unlawful acts on other countries.They can stop all aid to our mangement but let us live in peace .

  • Posted By: natasha ejaz @ 11/08/2007 1:04:50 PM

    Comment: I think people should know Pakistan's history before they try to sully the name of Zulfiqar Bhutto...he is a hero for the people of Pakistan and this very reason answers a lot of questions as to why America decided to get rid of him...simply put...he was a threat to the ego of Amercia who think they have the sole 'right' to make a nuclear bomb...we had a traitor in a uniform, Zia, known CIA agent confirmed by their reports who did the dirty job for 'them' and hanged the most popular, most brave and most sincere leader Pakistan had ever seen. He had the courage to tear into pieces a document from the puppetry foundation called the UN because it hurt Pakistan. He gave people voice, freedom and pride. His legacy today carries on by his daughter burdened under corruption charges. But the funny thing is that not a single case against her has been proven...isn't that enough?? the people she was fighting against wanted to divide Pakistan and have Sindh to themselves...we don't want that, do you?..very recently 'they' were declared a terrorist organization by Canada. oh wait maybe 'idlehands' dislikes her simply coz he or she is totally bought out by the US? Anything is possible. Are you getting paid to write against people who are our heroes and call all muslims from Iran to Pakistan terrorists? these very so called Islamic militants were trained by the CIA and the ISI-to fight in the name of Allah against the Soviets....at that time they (freedom fighters now terrorists) were heroes for America and their brainchild, their human bombs carefully brainwashed for their arch enemy.. backfired. It is your chance to not just read but UNDERSTAND the history of a nation which has suffered from vested interests of the West owing to its strategic location and serving as a buffer state to India. We need to be freed from physical and verbal violence. Please stop teaching us our own history. And yeah Amercians are anything but fools.

  • Posted By: idlehands @ 11/08/2007 9:01:10 AM

    Comment: Musharraf knows what he is doing because in the event that Benazir takes power she is going to wrestle away the authority of controlling Nuclear arms away from the Army and her corrupt officials will sell some pieces to the highest bidder and no one would be able to stop that, As long as the Army is in control the Western Nations should thank their lucky stars because Benazir will start the abandoned project of the Oil pipeline from Iran to China which will severely crash the US economy to bits and pieces, Why do u think that Musharraf attacked his own people in the province of Baluchistan ( same reason) he had to stop the China Iran gateway because that will surely lead to regional destabilization,
    Let Musharraf deal with Pakistan and don???t let Bhutto take power because that would be more disastrous because then u will have to fight 3 enemies at once all getting strong thru Bhutto and her democratic ( corrupt ) Pakistan. An economically strong China and 2 nuclear armed terrorists Iran and Al Qaeda.

  • Posted By: idlehands @ 11/08/2007 8:50:21 AM

    Comment: Oh My God ........... How can Americans be really fooled and are always found gullible to believe anything that is taught to them is beyond me. You people are really very na??ve. Do you Americans know that Benazir's father Zulfiqar Bhutto was the one who gave the nuclear bomb to Pakistan and Dr. A Qadir was his find? Don???t u guys ever bother to read up on the person u r supporting for elections Benazir is the one who gave all the power to the Dr Qadir so that the spread of the Nukes could occur. Don???t u guys know that Benazir's mother is a staunch Iranian Shite and belongs to Iranian origin, Don???t u guys know the track record of Benazir Bhutto's 2 previous governments which have been proved and agreed upon by many activists that they both had the most corrupted elected officials in office and all the while she maintained a police state in the city of Karachi for almost 7-8 yrs in the name of rooting out the terrorists who belong to a specific ethnic group who had not shared with her the power. Do u guys know that she tried to wipe out an entire generation of people just by classifying them as an outsider and the Army had to step in because they were after all the citizens of Pakistan,
    Musharraf knows what he is doing because in the event that Benazir takes power she is going to wrestle away the authority of controlling Nuclear arms away from the Army and her corrupt officials will sell some pieces to the highest bidder and no one would be able to stop that, As long as the Army is in control the Western Nations should thank their lucky stars because Benazir will start the abandoned project of the Oil pipeline from Iran to China which will severely crash the US economy to bits and pieces, Why do u think that Musharraf attacked his own people in the province of Baluchistan ( same reason) he had to stop the China Iran gateway because that will surely lead to regional destabilization,
    Let Musharraf deal with Pakistan and don???t let Bhutto take power because that would be more disastrous because then u will have to fight 3 enemies at once all getting strong thru Bhutto and her democratic ( corrupt ) Pakistan. An economically strong China and 2 nuclear armed terrorists Iran and Al Qaeda.

    • Posted By: plaintruth10 @ 11/14/2007 11:35:22 PM

      Comment: Politics is a science.
      The art of war,betrayal,etc.
      So the best bet would to have US or UN troops in Pakistan .

  • Posted By: diveit @ 11/08/2007 4:45:29 AM

    Comment: I guess if everyone is not a peace loving democratic individual, then they are a dangerous, illegitimate ruler??? That sure rules President Bush out. Oh, by the way, how many Americans voted for President Bush? Oh yea, the general American public cannot vote for the President, I almost forgot.

    Drastic measures are required in Pakistan and like Turkey in the past, it needs a strong military ruler to ensure that Pakistan stays "Secular" and not a Theological Democracy like Iran. Theology and Democracy should not mix. That combination is the most illegitimate, dangerous, desperate, tyranical, despotic, Hitleristic combination that can be achieved without bringing Hitler back from the dead.

    • Posted By: plaintruth10 @ 11/14/2007 11:32:36 PM

      Comment: So you support Military rule in Pakistan,Bangladesh and Burma,is it ?

  • Posted By: diveit @ 11/08/2007 4:45:22 AM

    Comment: I guess if everyone is not a peace loving democratic individual, then they are a dangerous, illegitimate ruler??? That sure rules President Bush out. Oh, by the way, how many Americans voted for President Bush? Oh yea, the general American public cannot vote for the President, I almost forgot.

    Drastic measures are required in Pakistan and like Turkey in the past, it needs a strong military ruler to ensure that Pakistan stays "Secular" and not a Theological Democracy like Iran. Theology and Democracy should not mix. That combination is the most illegitimate, dangerous, desperate, tyranical, despotic, Hitleristic combination that can be achieved without bringing Hitler back from the dead.

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 11/07/2007 8:13:25 PM

    Comment: Musharraf is a coup leader.
    Musharaff is an illegitimate ruler.
    Musharaff is dangerous.
    Musharaff is desperate.
    Musharraf is a tyrant,despot,military dictator.
    One man was the cause of W.W.2.
    Hitler was the root cause of millions of deaths.
    Rather than killing Hitler the world went to war.
    Dont tell me they couldnt have killed Hitler.
    Quote "What has history taught us.You can kill anybody"-Godfather ,movie.

  • Posted By: rvarma @ 11/07/2007 12:44:08 PM

    Comment: The world ought to be the most concerned about the nukes in Pakistan. It is amazing how the US allowed itself to be duped into believing that AD Khan, whom himself stole nuclear technology from the Netherlands and where is convicted in absentia for stealing the technology, could all by himself proliferate nuclear technology to other rogue nations in the world. It is laughable to suggest that the ISI was unaware of the proliferation activity, particularly in a country where a bird can't take flight without the country's intelligence services being aware of it. It is a well known fact that the nascent nuclear program in Iran came from Pakistan. The US is worried about Iran, but remains deafeningly silent about Pakiistan, the crucible of terrorism, and a country which has amassed hundreds of kilograms in enriched uranium, and harbors the world's most dangerous terrorists. I wonder when the US and the rest of the world will wake up to this fact. Senator Joe Biden in a recent Democratic debate rightly pointed out that the country which is presnetly the most dangerous in the world is Pakistan, and not Iran or North Korea.

    • Posted By: YanjunChen @ 11/07/2007 2:53:28 PM

      Comment: Why do we (US) think that we need to support a corrput/non-elected leader like Musharraf? Stabler Pakistan is needed (a pre-condition) to fight global terrorism. Musharraf does not provide a stabler goverment.

  • Posted By: rvarma @ 11/07/2007 12:37:46 PM

    Comment: The most critical issue facing the world is the control of nukes in Pakistan. There is no way a lone scientist, who himself stole nuclear secrets when he was employed in the Netherlands, could have proliferated nuclear technology to other rogue regimes in the world without the complicity of Pakistan's army and the ISI. Includentally, when all this proliferation occurred, Musharaff was the army's chief of staff. The idea of a lone scientist operating without the knowledge of all the intelligence services of Pakistan being aware of it is laughable, particularly in a country where a bird can't take flight without the amry or intelligence services being aware of it.

  • Posted By: BashirHerl @ 11/07/2007 7:50:56 AM

    Comment: The hyper active judges and a few lawyers were carried away in the wave created by scandle-hungry journalists of "too many to feed" media channels encouraged by President Musharraf himself. They took the case of his elegibility too far and delayed it beyond tolerance. He HAS been re-elected but notification was stopped. He sent too many gestures of cooperation to the judiciary but these went in vain.
    Now we should let him hold elections. Too hot protest will only delay the return to democracy.
    M. BASHIR HERL
    Faisalabad Pakistan.
    mbh@bhpura.com

  • Posted By: RaniaM @ 11/06/2007 12:04:21 PM

    Comment: Masherif, I hear you and can understand your perspective. I would like to share with you a great article on Singapore's leader - Lee KuanYew - great man. He was a bit of a dictator as well but look where he landed his nation - This may be foolish but I really prefer to be optimsitc "Singapore Leader Outlines Lessons of Leadership" - http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/news/2000/lee_kuan_yew.htm

  • Posted By: RaniaM @ 11/06/2007 12:04:17 PM

    Comment: Masherif, I hear you and can understand your perspective. I would like to share with you a great article on Singapore's leader - Lee KuanYew - great man. He was a bit of a dictator as well but look where he landed his nation - This may be foolish but I really prefer to be optimsitc "Singapore Leader Outlines Lessons of Leadership" - http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/news/2000/lee_kuan_yew.htm

  • Posted By: shakeelahmadch @ 11/06/2007 3:58:47 AM

    Comment: Nice balanced article - and this is first time i am impressed by NW that they spoke the truth and told american citizens to look for more friends in PK and changing policy to Pakistan Policy.

    Few weeks earlier i was in US and discussed the same with few US friends and they all were unhappy by the action US Govt. is taking. I can only wish that Bush and forth-coming President of US will take right actions which are desprately needed to win the war of Extremism and Terrorism.

    Shakeel,
    Lahore, PK

  • Posted By: RaniaM @ 11/05/2007 8:40:06 PM

    Comment: Dear Masherif,
    I agree with you in principle. I wish we had cleaned up the Taliban before venturing into Iraq. Now these extremists are seeking refuge in moderate Pakistan and trying to hijack the institutions there. The citizens fear and resent this. Something has to be done. Musharraf seems to want to clean up the mess. He is a dictator but the rest are crooks - take your pick! I. At the end of the day, I can live a dictator who can follow up his rhetoric with the right action. Time will tell.

    • Posted By: masherif @ 11/06/2007 10:32:40 AM

      Comment: Dear RaniaM
      Among the rest (you call them crooks) there are peaceful people, intellectuals and their families with their children too. Arresting and preventing them from participate in how Pakistan can come out of this crisis is a very dangerous step and it is inhuman! How could children be able to love such country or to grow up on such political and social system?
      To be fooled into believing on someone who is acting against humanity and human rights, is from my point of view dangerous. I do not want accusing you at all and I hope deeply you understand me as I hope the best for your country and any other country too. Never once a long world history there has been a dictator who was engaged in building democracy, neither before nor after cleaning up the mess. At the very least, this would be a long way round!

  • Posted By: afype @ 11/05/2007 7:26:55 PM

    Comment: God bless Mr. Bush and down with enemies of USA. God bless our arm forces. To hell with terrorists, liberals and all other god hating, america hating wimps. Go USA.

  • Posted By: afype @ 11/05/2007 7:23:14 PM

    Comment: God bless the USA

  • Posted By: leodelaney @ 11/05/2007 3:44:23 PM

    Comment: Why blame Bush? Since he himself is a total loser he has always allied our nation with losers. We should allow the Middle East to become the Islamic States ruled by religious leaders that they are going to become anyway. Instead we do all in our power to thrust our form of Democracy on the people of that region who have no need of it, don't see it as a blessing and don't want it. Contrary to popular belief the only people who believe the world is jealous of the American life style are the American people. What we should be doing is getting our uniformed assassins home from that area and letting those states work out their destiny as they see fit.

    There is no doubt that a threatening power will arise from that working out, but it will be a power that can be dealt with just as we never let the cold war become hot. The United States has to learn that imposing its own version of a social system or imposing its own particular brand of religious fantasy on another has not worked since the last of the missionaries was eaten. A hundred years ago the world was ready to accept civil and religious colonialism, but nations have now thrown that off and the US's attempts to reimpose it in the name of "freedom" are doomed to failure. And the failure has cost us dearly, in money, lives, honor, ethics and dignity.

    The tiem has come to bring our armies home and stand down our military expenditure and military threat in favor of improving the lives of our own people. The Soviet Union is gone, China is pursuing a different competative road than military confrontation, terrorism is and always has been a non-threat, a weak Boogie Man created by incompetent and failed leaders and, while the Middle East will incarnate as an Islamic Empire that is decades away, and there is time to accomodate ourselves to that. But it will take an understanding of how the world has changed from the 19th and 20th Centuries and how the United States has a different role to play in the future, perhaps a far less important one. We need far thinking and far reaching leadership, not the same old macho, fear ridden, military hobbled, ignorant and insular leadership we have now and which we are offered for the future. Though the Democrats may offer us a start on an understanding of the world they are still hidebound by the past and the Republicans are little more than a stage full of empty suited neanderthals uttering only one word (taxes) and threatening everyone and everything they come in contact with. Still, there's time.

  • Posted By: RaniaM @ 11/05/2007 3:14:31 PM

    Comment: Like many others I am saddened by the state of affairs in Pakistan. Not so long ago I used to live there. Growing up in Pakistan in the 80s, I saw women vote, own property, work in any and all professions, drive cars, travel with ease - nothing out of the ordinary. It was a country of moderates, in sharp contrast to Iran or Saudi Arabia. Suicide bombings were unheard of in this country until now. Today these are becoming commonplace, and the level of religious extremism is greater than I have ever witnessed. No one will disagree that the 'emergency' is a regressive move but I ask you, how else can we fight the wave of terrorism that has infiltrated our borders. We must focus cleaning up the Taliban in Afghanistan. These groups are a menace for the entire world. Unfortunately, we have diluted the war on terror by going into Iraq - permitting the Taliban to seek refuge elsewhere. I hope we can agree that we need to prevent Pakistan from falling into the hands of extremists. It was never so.

    • Posted By: masherif @ 11/05/2007 4:16:34 PM

      Comment: Dear RaniaM
      I agree with you that we need to prevent Pakistan from falling into the hands of extremists.
      And I agree with you that fighting the wave of terrorism must be clear for everyone who concerns about freedom and democracy, not only in Pakistan!
      But, today all dictators and unfortunately many other democracies are humiliating the very basic human rights using war against terror as excuse! Do you know how many dissidents are under house arrest or in prison toady just because they are thinking different like this dictator from Pakistan? I hope you can agree that this has nothing to do with your very justifiable wish fighting the wave of terrorism! For me this is one of the indicators of dictatorships.

  • Posted By: felix918 @ 11/05/2007 1:15:33 PM

    Comment: Beginning with Truman and up to Reagan we supported Dictatorships(however distasteful) to contain communism. Now, it seems, we will support anyone who opposes Terrorism.

  • Posted By: shoegen @ 11/05/2007 1:04:29 PM

    Comment: Musharaff obviously has limited intelegence on how to deal with his country's internal problems. Marshall law is usually the last resort for a civilian government but it is the prefered type of rule for the military. Mass arrests,imprisonment without trial or charges, disappearences and torture, violent crackdown on protests or dissent and takeover of the media and courts are all hallmarks of dictatorship.Musharaff's opposition will be arrested and detained the body count is going to grow fast. The ultimate effect of this action almost allways is overthrough. The United States must monitor the situation very closely because if it appears Pakistan's nuclear weapons are in danger of falling into unfriendly hands they must seriously consider a first strike to remove the threat of a missle attack by extremists on the U.S. or thier allies in the region.

  • Posted By: mgcuerva @ 11/05/2007 11:02:07 AM

    Comment: As a latinamerican I would just disagree on the "Americans have always been uneasy about dancing with dictators" or just I start numbering the ones americans support through the eigthies in the region. ??And what about Chavez, will the americans stop complaining about his luck of democratic's ways or will they use the same standars as with Musharraf, Kadafi, etc.? May be Mugabe can also have something to say about the dictatorship to defend the people and the democracy

  • Posted By: mgcuerva @ 11/05/2007 11:00:02 AM

    Comment: As a latinamerican I would just disagree on the "Americans have always been uneasy about dancing with dictators" or just I start numbering the ones americans support through the eigthies in the region. ??And what about Chavez, will the americans stop complaining about his luck of democratic's ways or will they use the same standars as with Musharraf, Kadafi, etc.? May be Mugabe can also have something to say about the dictatorship to defend the people and the democracy

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 11/05/2007 8:17:06 AM

    Comment: Will the CIA assasinate Musharraf ?
    Please dont .
    Musharaf must be tried in an InternationalCourt of Justice.

  • Posted By: edfeeney @ 11/05/2007 12:55:12 AM

    Comment: Although I don't have a whole lot of confidence in the radical elements if they took over Packistan but I would still trust them more than Mucharraf. Afterall it was one of his nuclear weapons scientists whosold every nuclear secret he could get his hands on and he sold them mostly to our enemies. So it'll be a tough call but Musharraf has already proven hes more than capable of de-stabilizing the world.

  • Posted By: mananqureshi @ 11/04/2007 9:45:34 PM

    Comment: Mr. Hirsh forgets that, Pakistan under Musharraf has deliveerd to US hands more than 700+ terrorits , inlcuding dozens of several high proifle Al-Qaida leaders, he should remember that when he criticizes the regime in pakistan.

    • Posted By: masherif @ 11/05/2007 4:14:27 AM

      Comment: Dear mananqureshi: Don't you think that every dictator needs terrorists? When necessary creating terror too! What do you think how our world would looks like if we don't have such terror? No Musharraf, no Bush, Putin ... and Mr. Hirsh can cultivate flowers! Today every dictator and many so called democracies like US, Israel and others humiliate the very basic human rights for war against terror! Do you know how many dissidents are under house arrest or in prison or may be already killed just because they are thinking different like this dictator from Pakistan? And finally I guess you already know who have created and supported a fundamentalist Bin-Laden and its bloody Al-Qaida???
      That is also unfortunately the double morale of U.S. policy and history.

  • Posted By: mananqureshi @ 11/04/2007 9:43:53 PM

    Comment: Pakistan under Musharraf's regime has delivered more than 700+ terrorists to US custody, not counting the hundreds if not thousands killed. Columnists like these should keep that in mind while they "critique" the "dictator".

  • Posted By: mona0529 @ 11/04/2007 7:44:02 PM

    Comment: WHERE THE HELL IS MY COMMENT, I DON'T SEE IT DISPLAYED

  • Posted By: mona0529 @ 11/04/2007 7:30:44 PM

    Comment: The media needs to stop focusing on Pakistan and focus on what America id doing for its own people, like creating jobs, having a stable economy and stop sending your kids to war cause of nationality. Where is the justice in standing up for America when the rich party while the working class work their asses of to provide for their families.

  • Posted By: americandesi @ 11/04/2007 7:18:41 PM

    Comment: Bhutto and Sharif crooks themselves who looted the goverment of billions where have safe haven in Europe (Switzerland, London,and Saudi Arabic). These two jokers of politicans were very anti-US and were back by Islamfundamentals in Pakistan. These are the people (Supporters of Bhutto/Sharif) who are the cancer in the country. The terror, the Talibanizan of Pakistan is due to the old guard in Pakistan. Musharraf's actions may seem extreme to the western world, partly b/c they don't live in the conditions as Pakistanis so they have no first hand knowledge of corruption, terrorism, and fundamentalism. By having martial law, the government is doing their part to curtail the ignorance and more importantly violence destroying the country. I believe Musharraf has a very tough job and he is doing his best for the betterment of Pakistan.

    • Posted By: natasha ejaz @ 11/08/2007 3:36:37 PM

      Comment: "From Jinnah to Zia" by Muhammad Munir...please read. You will find out how there was never any political rule in Pakistan even when you thought there was. It is a long sad history full of paradox and contradiction. The army has always ruled. It has destroyed us. It is not accountable to any institution. On any average if Nawaz messed around with one million, the army did away with 10 billion. You cant even compare. Please read as much as you can by Pakistani authors. Thank you.

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  • Posted By: masherif @ 11/04/2007 3:05:08 PM

    Comment: Problem dictatorship ??? Or supporting dictatorship?
    The biggest drama from my point of view is how we define the foreign policy? We are all proud about to say, foreign policy is the policy of interests! You all hear such definitions not only in political debates but we learn this very stupid things also in our so called elite universities and we hear it also often from so called intellectual prophets. And we repeat and repeat it fluently.
    As long as we don???t ask ourselves what does this mean we don???t have to wonder about supporting dictatorships. We don???t have to wonder about damaging our own democracy and our freedom. It???s very simple; such way leads to deep corruption on thinking and on dealing, whatever we are going to do. Because when something matches our interests so it doesn???t matter if the solution will be the dictatorship. And for sure it doesn???t matter dancing with the Dictators and it doesn???t matter if we are not recognizing free elections or threatening democratic rights.
    See US support for governments in Egypt, Jordan, Algeria, Saudi Arabia and many other countries in the world. See also the support of Israeli occupation and its humiliation against the very basic human rights. And more see the US support for Bin-Laden against the bloody Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

  • Posted By: Versamedi @ 11/04/2007 12:59:23 PM

    Comment: Can somebody tell which is a bigger threat? Nuclear-armed Pakistan or Iran who is going to arm itself 10 years from now?

  • Posted By: Massenger @ 11/04/2007 11:46:45 AM

    Comment: Dictatorship can not serve the purpose of democracy. Pakistan may now become another Afganistan or Iraq. Will the US policy makers ever understand this? Blind as they are in their persuit of power and resources around the world. When they do, the world will be a far better place for everyone to live. Better for Pakistan and rest of the world struggling for democracy. There would have been no need for the disastrous war on terrorism if democratic aspirations of the people of South and West Asia were duly supported. Rather not tampered by US power interests.

  • Posted By: cpatwork@hotmail.com @ 11/04/2007 11:00:25 AM

    Comment: Pakistan is not the No.1 generator of just anti-US terrorism, they are the No.1 generator of all terrorism, period.

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  • Posted By: flanet @ 11/04/2007 10:33:45 AM

    Comment: Unless we don???t understand that US have national interest all over the globe, and therefore, we cannot allow certain things happened, for example, Pakistan being taken by our enemies, it is a disgrace but we should obligate and impose our foreign politics. Undoubtedly US have to faces like a coin, one for domestic use and the other face for external use. Let???s admitted and accepted if we really want our country to be success able for more year to come.

    • Posted By: no0ne_007 @ 11/05/2007 11:27:55 AM

      Comment: What if China took the same stance and decided they needed to "obligate and impose their foreign politics". lol, we can't even get out of Iraq, imagine how that war would go. Until the US cleans up its own act, we have no business trying to clean up others.

  • Posted By: captsalman @ 11/04/2007 10:33:03 AM

    Comment: Yes when USA's ally Gen. Musharraff could not maintain his writ and control extremism, it is rather now time to involve general public in fight against terrorism as unpopular Government of the dictator is only paving the way to more terrorism. Only solution is free and fair elections at the earliest. Believe me no sane person in Pakistan likes terrorism, it is hatred towards military junta which is undermining war against terrorism. And undercover elements in the present regime which were flourished under the hagemony of jihadis against USSR(that time) in fact is a problem in restoring moderate society in Pakistan.

  • Posted By: flanet @ 11/04/2007 10:22:32 AM

    Comment: It is time to understand that US cannot impose democracy in countries where for centuries they were leaving as they are now. Why our interest is to oblige democracy in those countries? Is it not the same that if they were like to impose in our country the Islam? Unless we can understand and respect the principles of leaving together -and that is- leave and let leave in peace, we always going to confront violence and murders as we see today and therefore, war.

    Posted By: An Student of polical Science

  • Posted By: junaidkhan @ 11/04/2007 9:10:08 AM

    Comment: It is high time that US administration and US people recognize that only true democracy in the region will bring in peace and stability in the region. Support of dictators can at best act as a band-aid for an infected wound. Gen. Musharaf is unpopular in Pakistan and history has proven time and time again that lasting solutions cannot come from unpopular leaders.

    Junaid

    • Posted By: edfeeney @ 11/05/2007 1:53:24 AM

      Comment: TO JUNALDKHAN---I have to totally disagree with you about democracy is the only way to promote peace in a region. At least not by todays standards. Bush's spread democracy philosophy has literally de-stabilized every region he's pushed it. Lets start with the Palestinian sitution. After Arafatwe finally get somebody we can deal with. Their almost pro-western. Bush goes ahead and pushes his adgenda even though Israel begged him to hold off. But Bush knew bette and overnight lost our friends and put Hamas in power. An enemy who has sworn to destroy Israel. Good work George. Then to make it even worse dum-dum doesn't like the results so pulls all suppor for this newly elected govern. We have every right to hate Hamas but tough thats who was voted in Now dum-dum finances and arms Fatah to fight against Hamas. Good work dum-dum. Now go to Iraq. Bush decides they need a little democracy so he wipes out and destroys a ruthless, murdering regime to replace it with a newly-elected ruthless and murdring regime. But its way worse than before because the new ruthless regime is beholden toIran. They are our biggist enemy. Even if you didn'tlike the original murdering regime at leat they kept a balance of power and a stability to that area. Apparently you don't undestand that those people would rather settle old scores than embrace the gift of democracy they've been given. So lets fceit free elections in that part of the world has only been beneficial to our enemies. Lets go to Russia now. Heres country that democracy brutalized that society. Now under Putin who's is rapidly turning it back into a totalitarian state is enjoying a 70-80 per cent popularity rating. The Soviets are gladly giving up their feedoms because democracy didn't really lift them out ofanywhere. Either did the free-enterprise system. I could go on but these are easy examples of democracy not working and also de-stabilizing whole regions

  • Posted By: argie @ 11/04/2007 9:08:24 AM

    Comment: Regret having to admit, that Musharraf and Bush are the perfect bed-fellows taylor made for each other and both deserve to be in the quagmire that so stupidly puth themselve into. I fell no sorry for them. The only thing I regret is the curse Bush brought into the United States with his awful mismanagement of the foreign policy of our country.
    God bless America in spite of Bush and his cronies, or is he the crony of them ???

  • Posted By: pirbux @ 11/04/2007 9:07:30 AM

    Comment: Free and independant judiciary, democracy and economic prosperity is strong reply to terrorism. Terrorists get space to flourish where poverty, illetracy and dictatorial rule (law of jungle) is prevailing. Civilised world has to decide whch course Pakistan needs at this crucial time. If army rule is that better then West/USA must have the same rule of law.

  • Posted By: junaidkhan @ 11/04/2007 9:02:52 AM

    Comment: It is high time for US administration and US people recognize that long lasting stability and peace in the region and Pakistan will only come if and when they support true democracy in the country. So far they have been betting on one man and ignorning the aspirations of an entire country; now they must enforce a country centric and not one-man centric policies. I am sure true democracy will bring true peace which is in the best interest of world at large.

    Junaid Khan

    • Posted By: leodelaney @ 11/09/2007 8:00:49 PM

      Comment: It will come to Pakistan only with the establishment of an Islamic State in Pakistan and the return of the United States to its own continent and the end to its power plays of trying to shove "Democracy" and "Freedom" down the throats of people who don't want it.

  • Posted By: argie @ 11/04/2007 8:19:54 AM

    Comment: Regret having to admit, that Musharrat and Bush are good, in fact the best bed fellows and as such they deserve each other and we deserve Bush, since our Supreme Court elected him by implementing a collegiate electoral system.

    God Bless America in spite of Bush.

    john s. ursic

  • Posted By: AKANEWYORK @ 11/04/2007 5:57:54 AM

    Comment: As the Leading democratic nation in the world, we as a nation should take the high moral ground. As we regard our judiciary system in high regards as no "one" is above the law / constitution, we as a nation should condemn the sacking of the Chief Justices' and demand their that they be reinstated and the judicial arm should be free from any interference, that is democracy and that is how we will find moderate friends in Pakistan, not by supporting dictators. We have to end this hyprocricy and once for all, stop supporting military regimes and dictatorships as by doing so, we will make friends and win the hearts and minds of the ordinary citizen, as tat is where true power lies to change a nation. That is how we should combat extremism by supporting the average Joe while exporting democracy around the globe.

  • Posted By: dipaksingh11 @ 11/04/2007 4:45:20 AM

    Comment: American leaders simply don't understand asian way of thinking. the desire to look for easiest face saving relationships also creates such a huge mental block in the planning process. The US would do well to be less chummy with dictators and potential dictators.

  • Posted By: dipaksingh11 @ 11/04/2007 4:38:53 AM

    Comment: this is typical of American understanding of affairs of Asia. there is this strong desire to look for easiest face saving solutions which have most often complicated matters. the desire to look the driver in all affairs also is such block to common sense thinking.

  • Posted By: kamran @ 11/04/2007 1:58:29 AM

    Comment: If Bush Administration does not act fast to force Musharaff to restore the constitution and the superior judiciary, there is every danger that some other person from the Army may oust him out and take over. In order to rally public support which is presently against Musharaff in Pakistan, he may announce a U-Turn in Pakistan policy towards support to the USA in its war on terror. Can the US afford that? If not, please act fast before it is too late. Kamran

  • Posted By: Versamedi @ 11/04/2007 12:05:09 AM

    Comment: Musharraf's days are numbered. The question is how we can make sure the nuclear arms don't go into the wrong hands. And we should think fast.

    Versamedi

  • Posted By: kumarswamy @ 11/03/2007 11:54:19 PM

    Comment: It seems all through history great powers bungled in treating others fairly - arrogant, using military power unnecessarily, involving in other countries' affairs where it was not really needed, easily enticed by so called friendly countries to subjugate and exploit other countries, hence using their hard earned resouces of its people in pursuit of stupid goals, spending their own resources to an extent leading to hyper inflation, devaluation of their currencies thus leading to economic meltdown to a point of being basket cases. Remember, Roman empire? Is this happening to United States? Will Americans realize before it is too late, if not already?

  • Posted By: mussalli @ 11/03/2007 11:52:39 PM

    Comment: It is time President BUsh dump the dictator who has taken the entire Nation of Pakistan Hostage for his own power. This is not rule of law this is the terroism of the worst kind.
    S. Shaikjh

  • Posted By: bhangia @ 11/03/2007 11:00:24 PM

    Comment: Respectfully, I don;t agree with mr. Hirish..In order to fight this war against extremism element you need a strong dictator like Mushraaf not looters like Benazir or Nazwaz Sharif. These politicians will sell Pakistan. The political parties in pakistan are highly beaurocratic with no demoratic structure within the parties themselves. Only Musharraf presence could make pakistan secure and give peace with the rest of the world. He is a true patriot. May God bless Pakistan.

  • Posted By: andy_f90 @ 11/03/2007 10:43:35 PM

    Comment: Its outrageous about our two-faced "empty rhetoric" on democracy. This is what Presidential Candidate Ron Paul means when he says, "we better practice what we preach." By supporting the anti-democracy dictator in chief, the Bush administration has once again shown crass judgment. As a Pakistani, I can swear the people have turned against this "SOB" Bush puppeteer and has declared war on his Muslim tribal brethren who are fiercely independent and govern their "own semi-autonomous" tribal Western Frontier.
    I see grave consequences for my country if the Democracy preaching President of this country and the EU don't rein in this illegitimate power-grab now. The Chief Justice is under house arrest, television channels have been shut down, lawyers and lawmakers are surrounded by troops, and the Constitution suspended indefinitely. Would any Americans tolerate such abuse by their chief executive under the guise of "security?" If not then help us freedom-loving Pakistanis stop your gov't from turning this nation half of America's size into a fascist state under anti-Muslim forces and allies like Bush, neocons, and their Israeli supporting backers.

    • Posted By: RaniaM @ 11/05/2007 8:36:09 PM

      Comment: Agreed! Thank you.

  • Posted By: andy_f90 @ 11/03/2007 10:42:59 PM

    Comment: Its outrageous about our two-faced "empty rhetoric" on democracy. This is what Presidential Candidate Ron Paul means when he says, "we better practice what we preach." By supporting the anti-democracy dictator in chief, the Bush administration has once again shown crass judgment. As a Pakistani, I can swear the people have turned against this "SOB" Bush puppeteer and has declared war on his Muslim tribal brethren who are fiercely independent and govern their "own semi-autonomous" tribal Western Frontier.
    I see grave consequences for my country if the Democracy preaching President of this country and the EU don't rein in this illegitimate power-grab now. The Chief Justice is under house arrest, television channels have been shut down, lawyers and lawmakers are surrounded by troops, and the Constitution suspended indefinitely. Would any Americans tolerate such abuse by their chief executive under the guise of "security?" If not then help us freedom-loving Pakistanis stop your gov't from turning this nation half of America's size into a fascist state under anti-Muslim forces and allies like Bush, neocons, and their Israeli supporting backers.

  • Posted By: jojoc10 @ 11/03/2007 9:53:12 PM

    Comment: To steal a quote from FDR, "while he might be an SOB, he's our SOB."

 
 
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