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  • Posted By: BevSims @ 03/10/2008 11:59:51 AM

    I am always amazed as to how the American people have one, a very short memory, two, a very short attention span ( in believing everything that someone tells them) and three allow the media to let the Clintons always change the goal post if it does not go in their favor, how is it that Obama has one more states, and this idea that he won't get votes in the General is crazy, democrats will votes for him with his crossover appeal, he has accumulated more delegates even in Texan, and the media in wanting Clinton to win and overcome his lead so badly stated that the momentum was over, she so called won by less than 3% of the vote and now with the caucuses that is questionable.

    Most of the votes she received at the last moment was due to the kitchen sink strategy, but those who made up their minds to vote for her, were not going to vote for Obama and looked for a reason, this Resko crap that the press is allowing her to continue to bring up, he is not on trial Resko is, you have dug and dug and the only thing that you can come up with is property that he purchased, remember Obama gave his money to charity, why can't we see the presidential papers or her tax returns to see what she did with Resko donations that she received, or his middle name or his wife's papers from college, let's not forget the scandal in about her senatorial campaign with Peter Paul giving her campaign 1.2 million dollars, which was never used for the campaign, never donated to charity, but there is a court case that is pending that shows Billary and Chelsea will have to testify on charges.

    WHY IS THE PRESS NOT BRINGING THIS UP.? And her 35 years of experience is a joke and makes me want to throw up when I hear it, do the comparison of her 8 years in office passing legislation or getting it passed and Obama's 8 years in the state senate and 3 years in the senate and the important legislation that he has passed and how he has always been able to cross over party lines, but not Hillary the fighter who only wants to get back in to show the (Right winged conspirators) republicans and rub it in their face.

    The bottom line is if Florida and Michigan are allowed as is to be counted it is not fair, he was not on the ballot, and so what if he chose not to by following the rules, and they Super delegates can wait for the Convention and choose Hillary, I will never vote for her, it will be McCain or stay at home, and it would be a sad day, because all the youth that Obama brought into the campaign not Clinton, she only wanted the youth after she saw what Obama was doing, just like she is insulting the states that she did not win, or have very small delegates stating that in the general they won't count. Hopefully you guys will read and learn.

  • Posted By: BevSims @ 03/10/2008 11:59:38 AM

    I am always amazed as to how the American people have one, a very short memory, two, a very short attention span ( in believing everything that someone tells them) and three allow the media to let the Clintons always change the goal post if it does not go in their favor, how is it that Obama has one more states, and this idea that he won't get votes in the General is crazy, democrats will votes for him with his crossover appeal, he has accumulated more delegates even in Texan, and the media in wanting Clinton to win and overcome his lead so badly stated that the momentum was over, she so called won by less than 3% of the vote and now with the caucuses that is questionable.

    Most of the votes she received at the last moment was due to the kitchen sink strategy, but those who made up their minds to vote for her, were not going to vote for Obama and looked for a reason, this Resko crap that the press is allowing her to continue to bring up, he is not on trial Resko is, you have dug and dug and the only thing that you can come up with is property that he purchased, remember Obama gave his money to charity, why can't we see the presidential papers or her tax returns to see what she did with Resko donations that she received, or his middle name or his wife's papers from college, let's not forget the scandal in about her senatorial campaign with Peter Paul giving her campaign 1.2 million dollars, which was never used for the campaign, never donated to charity, but there is a court case that is pending that shows Billary and Chelsea will have to testify on charges.

    WHY IS THE PRESS NOT BRINGING THIS UP.? And her 35 years of experience is a joke and makes me want to throw up when I hear it, do the comparison of her 8 years in office passing legislation or getting it passed and Obama's 8 years in the state senate and 3 years in the senate and the important legislation that he has passed and how he has always been able to cross over party lines, but not Hillary the fighter who only wants to get back in to show the (Right winged conspirators) republicans and rub it in their face.

    The bottom line is if Florida and Michigan are allowed as is to be counted it is not fair, he was not on the ballot, and so what if he chose not to by following the rules, and they Super delegates can wait for the Convention and choose Hillary, I will never vote for her, it will be McCain or stay at home, and it would be a sad day, because all the youth that Obama brought into the campaign not Clinton, she only wanted the youth after she saw what Obama was doing, just like she is insulting the states that she did not win, or have very small delegates stating that in the general they won't count. Hopefully you guys will read and learn.

  • Posted By: Shankardada2 @ 11/15/2007 2:04:42 PM

    You have to admit, most things he said were true, regardless of Hillary's prospective opponent. She HAS seemed tense. She definitely SEEMS more hard-nosed than "Obambi." It is probable that Bill WON'T be able to keep it in his pants and will attempt to have sex with other floozies. It is also true that Bill IS much smoother than Hillary. It is also evident that Bill and Hillary are in a marriage of convenience and not one of love and trust. Will any of this make any difference in '08? Probably not the loveless marriage, but the rigidity and lack of charisma will. She is the person to beat, like Al-Gore was in 2000. But Guliani is more Bill-like than Hillary (which in this popularity contest called an election is a good thing), and he has a great chance of knocking her off.

  • Posted By: dogman @ 11/08/2007 10:31:39 AM

    Any serious piece that wasn't a disguised hit piece would of mentioned Guilinani's relationship with his wife. She is so insecured that she has Guilinani on a tight leash; calling in the middle of speeches and meetings. This dynamic is unhealthy. As for the Clinton's, we need a hands on president that is how are system works best. And Hill will be letting Bill know just exactly what is her responsibilities and what is his.

  • Posted By: Southern Bell @ 11/07/2007 4:09:32 PM

    After further thought, I'm even more steamed at Evan for this piece of drivel he felt compelled to write. If anyone truly believes there is anything insightful in Smith's book, just go to Media Matters where you'll find how flimsy her research was.

    Newsweek seems to really be flogging this book. One has to wonder what will happen if the contest is Clinton v. Giulinani. Somehow I'm sure Newsweek, under Evan's guidance, will ignore any ethical or "moral" lapses Rudy has committed in it's rush to twist the knife into the Clintons.

    Evan, I sincerely hope you recuse yourself if the choice is Hillary v. Rudy because I doubt you can even pretend to offer an unbiased opinion.

  • Posted By: Eva Lyn @ 11/07/2007 4:06:00 PM

    It does not seem to matter who says what when. Most voters will just blindly go to the polls and vote for whoever without a clue as to what is actually going on. How many US voters out there will actually make an attempt to discover ANY of the candidates'/parties' platforms? Darned few!

    So in essense, it does not matter who write what about whom, it probably won't change anyone's mind about anything.

  • Posted By: andy101 @ 11/07/2007 1:54:54 PM

    I read most of this article before I looked to see who had written it. I looked because I had to know who had written such an unsavory, creepy piece of sexist claptrap. Oh-- Evan Thomas. Makes sense.

  • Posted By: covarrubiasm13 @ 11/07/2007 12:47:13 PM

    this is monica covarrubias i want to be rich to ??? ???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no joke

  • Posted By: Southern Bell @ 11/07/2007 11:21:59 AM

    Who died and made you God?

    What a ridiculous piece of caca. You're ongoing dislike of the Clintons makes you a poor candidate to try and guage their relationship.

    And the moral superiority in your "voice" is truly repugnant.

  • Posted By: rca25 @ 11/06/2007 11:18:12 PM

    "It is clear from reading Smith's book (something that all political journalists need to do, and not just skim) that anyone who thinks he's voting just for Hillary on Election Day is naive. The Clintons are a political package, a two-for-one bargain, a duo inextricably intertwined. Judging from the evidence provided by Smith, they are also an unhappily married couple whose relationship would inevitably affect Hillary's judgment and actions."
    1. I am not a Hillary fan in the least
    2. This treatment of her is unacceptable.
    If they are a duo, then we got them both during Bill's presidency. And, secondly, why would her "unhappy" marriage state affect her more than it affected Bill during his presidency?
    3. Let's all get over the fact that she's a woman and treat her like a candidate.

  • Posted By: mm jw @ 11/06/2007 10:19:10 PM

    The reason I would not vote for Hillary has nothing to do with Iraq, health care, illegal immigration. It has to do with Bill Clinton - with free time- living in the White House. Oh he could travel to Timbuktu on PR missions, but he'd have to come 'home' some time.

  • Posted By: mm jw @ 11/06/2007 10:17:04 PM

    The reason I would not vote for Hillary has nothing to do with illegal immigration, or health care, or Irag. It has to do with the fact that Bill Clinton, with lots of free time, would be living in the White House. But yes, send him off around the world . . . but he'd have to come 'home' some of the time.

  • Posted By: sabre460 @ 11/06/2007 9:32:02 PM

    Perceptive.

    Again, I repeat: I cannot begin to understand an American with two live brain cells to rub together who could possibly 1) Give President Clinton a pass on the damage he did to the office of the Presidency, or 2) Vote for Senator Clinton to be President.

    Although in certain bitter moments I reflect that the average American, ill-read, hostile to culture, provincial, ignorant of ethics, morally bankrupt, and unconscious of any ethnic or family history because he or she is "A 'Merican," (which apparently renders unnecessary further inquiry), deserved President Clinton. At the same time our posterity and history demands better.

    That this prevaricating, misogynistic, intern-seducing, convict-pardoning, Elmer Gantry hick ever became chief executive testifies to the flimsy penetration and character-identifying capacity of the American people.

    The idea that his Illinois-bred, Goldwater Republican wife, seduced thirty years ago by college Marxism, her only qualifications being seasoned by twenty years of spousal betrayal and warming a New York seat in the U.S. Senate, accomplishing nothing, has transported us from the ridiculous to the sublime.

    (Credit to Pixelero, astute poster at Lucianne.com)

  • Posted By: calling all toasters @ 11/06/2007 6:04:18 PM

    Evan, honey, I'm very sorry for you that you and the rest of the Press Corps didn't succeed in capturing Bill Clinton's *** the first time around. Now, the public knows you're not concerned with their well-being, so there's no need to discuss policy. but what make you think you're going to capture the Clenis this time around? Give it up, already.

  • Posted By: BeeGoode @ 11/06/2007 5:08:23 PM

    Amazing! An article with essentially nothing of concrete substance you could identify to to support its thesis that the sky will fall if Bill is around during a Hillary presidency. Generally opinions worthy of a national magazine sit on something more than something like "I think because they have a dysfunctional marriage ..." This is nothing more than speculative conjecture in the extreme.

  • Posted By: jengofet71 @ 11/06/2007 4:54:46 PM

    I do not think the issue of Bill Clinton's Philandering is anymore relevant now than it was nearly 9 years ago when the Lewinsky scandal first broke out. We saw more coverage of that "scandal" than we have seen concerning ANY of the scandals involving the current President and his Administration. This does not bode well for those on the outside looking inside the American culture. Should we not be more interested in the fact that, just for example, DynCorp, cannot account for millions of dollars paid to it for the services it supposedly rendered in Iraq? Should we not be more interested in the scandal involving the outing of a CIA operative, whose status as being on "active" or "inactive" duty should not be considered? The fact that Valerie Plame's identity was given out is a major issue and should be, even to this day, on the cover of every major newspaper and newsmagazine. However, No, we still have people writing about the Clinton's marital Problems and whether or not these problems will affect the next Clinton who might very well be in office.

    Personally, I am sickened by the fact that this issue is still being pondered by some of the world's top journalists. They look just as infantile for still reporting on this issue as the issue itself appeared when it first came to light.

    Sincerely,
    jengofet71

  • Posted By: BeeGoode @ 11/06/2007 4:34:24 PM

    Amazing! An article with essentially nothing of concrete substance you could identify to to support its thesis that the sky will fall if Bill is around during a Hillary presidency. Generally opinions worthy of a national magazine sit on something more than something like "I think because they have a dysfunctional marriage ..." This is nothing more than speculative conjecture in the extreme.

  • Posted By: ConservativeWoman @ 11/06/2007 4:22:27 PM

    We would survive another Clinton presidency, but it sure wouldn't be pretty. She always scared me more than Bill did because her ideology which is Marxist is so strong. Bill just enjoyed all the fun stuff that came with being president, she wants to Rule with a capital R.

  • Posted By: ConservativeWoman @ 11/06/2007 4:16:25 PM

    Hillary, the Marxist, would be even more destructive to the US than her husband was. I hope both he and she keep talking and showing her/their true colors.

  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 11/06/2007 2:02:17 PM

    This is extremely lopsided commentary. You guys are trying to get Barack back on track.. Not everybody thinks Hillary is her husband's shadow. We know that she stuck with him just because of her ambition.

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