A Gender Fender Bender

Team Hillary misplays the victim card.

By Jonathan Alter | Newsweek Web Exclusive

Nov 5, 2007 | Updated: 6:46 p.m. ET Nov 5, 2007

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Posted By: Ciardha @ 03/11/2008 10:03:45 PM

Comment: "Ferraro's line felt awfully 1970s. No one of any consequence endorsed the idea that the other candidates were sexist. " Oh really. Alter, your misogyny is showing. You and all the media and the other candidates (especially Obama) have shown just how sexist our culture still is. Women 40 and older know this and are really revolted by the lot of you. And we aren't keen on Obama either because of his many sexist comments. That doesn't fly with 40 something women (Obama's generation by the way. We know the frat boy game he's playing and it doesn't play with us. Plays great with you GUYS and the female cheerleaders of men you have in the so called newsmedia.)
Posted By: soren lerby @ 11/12/2007 3:47:03 PM

Comment:
So now it???s official that in the Democratic field for the Presidential race, we have six contenders, who discuss policy issues, trade questions and criticism at each other and could be and held responsible for one???s words and actions, and one who would only announce her policy and intentions but is above any criticism or question.

It portends what Hillary Presidency will look like, if it ever going to happen; she will only announce what she wants to do, or what her policy would be, and any criticism against her decisions or policies would be judged sexual discrimination and silenced by her cronies and liberal mainstream media. Maybe we should think again about whether America should elect someone only for the sake of achieving a diversity milestone and feel good about ourselves or if we want to elect someone who could be held accountable, who do not hide behind gender victim card. U.S. Presidency is much, much more important than simply being a trophy for diversity movement. After all, isn???t it the cornerstone of democracy that citizens freely elect some one who is accountable to their constituents?

In a way Hillary is smart in letting her cronies do all the work of playing gender victim card, while she herself keep away from that kind of cheap trick. She could appear strong, statesmanlike, rising above the cheap gender card, all the while ensuring that her opponents and the media will think twice before leveling any criticism against her in the future. And it???s also a rare time that Ferraro could get a media spotlight, after her historic landslide defeat as a token woman candidate for Vice President of the U.S. She surely knows how to play the gender victim card very well because she was the foremost expert on this, in fact it is her only expertise in politics to this date, and her only qualification for VP candidacy was that she was a woman.
Posted By: sarainitaly @ 11/07/2007 2:04:58 PM

Comment: "Hillary does not stand for anything, makes no difinative statements, and cannot seem to answer a question directly. "

What are you talking about? You are just repeating the same standard talking points used by Hillary haters. Some of her issues:
Making health care affordable and accessible to every American. Reducing the cost of energy and making us energy independent. Expanding access to affordable, high-quality child care. Veterans rights.Making college more affordable. Protecting families from predatory lenders and helping them avoid foreclosures. Increasing the minimum wage.
Creating good jobs with good wages to expand the middle class. Balancing the federal budget so we don't pass today's massive debts to the next generation. Reward savings, protect pensions, and provide greater retirement security. She also is realistic in her talks of ending the war in Iraq and troop withdrawals. Womens rights, repairing our standing in the world, reforming immigration, and others. I suggest you read more about it on her web site, obviously you know very little about her career in politics/public service.

I find her quite direct in her responses, and feel that she looks at both sides of issues. I would rather someone examine the pros and cons of issues and find the best solution. Not someone who just takes a hard lined party opinion.

It is your right to not like her/vote for her, but can we please stop with these blanket untrue statements. I find it utterly ridiculous to say that she stands for nothing. Perhaps nothing YOU care about, but she does stand and fight for many causes.

And imnotdiscloing, as a "woman with her eyes on politics" you will be the one to make it harder for women to make it in politics with your ridiculous statement blaming a woman for her husband's cheating. And Hillary has raised an exceptional and bright daughter. You must be very young.... How can you expect to unify a country when you say such dividing and negative comments as that?

Hillary has worked her adult life in public service, and has dedicated a lot to women's and family issues. You should at least know a little about her, not just listen to and spew the same old tired blanket negative comments.
Posted By: sarainitaly @ 11/07/2007 1:06:01 PM

Comment: "Hillary does not stand for anything, makes no difinative statements, and cannot seem to answer a question directly. "

What are you talking about? You are just repeating the same standard talking points used by Hillary haters. Some of her issues:
Making health care affordable and accessible to every American. Reducing the cost of energy and making us energy independent. Expanding access to affordable, high-quality child care. Veterans rights.Making college more affordable. Protecting families from predatory lenders and helping them avoid foreclosures. Increasing the minimum wage.
Creating good jobs with good wages to expand the middle class. Balancing the federal budget so we don't pass today's massive debts to the next generation. Reward savings, protect pensions, and provide greater retirement security. She also is realistic in her talks of ending the war in Iraq and troop withdrawals. Womens rights, repairing our standing in the world, reforming immigration, and others. I suggest you read more about it on her web site, obviously you know very little about her career in politics/public service.

I find her quite direct in her responses, and feel that she looks at both sides of issues. I would rather someone examine the pros and cons of issues and find the best solution. Not someone who just takes a hard lined party opinion.

It is your right to not like her/vote for her, but can we please stop with these blanket untrue statements. I find it utterly ridiculous to say that she stands for nothing. Perhaps nothing YOU care about, but she does stand and fight for many causes.

And imnotdiscloing, as a "woman with her eyes on politics" you will be the one to make it harder for women to make it in politics with your ridiculous statement blaming a woman for her husband's cheating. And Hillary has raised an exceptional and bright daughter. You must be very young.... How can you expect to unify a country when you say such dividing and negative comments as that?

Hillary has worked her adult life in public service, and has dedicated a lot to women's and family issues. You should at least know a little about her, not just listen to and spew the same old tired blanket negative comments.
- Posted By: adam in iowa city @ 01/14/2008 16:12:56
  
  Comment: I'd direct you to the bankruptcy bill of the 1990s that Hillary voted for, which would have thrown children under the bus in favor of big credit card companies. Hardly the women's and family issues dedication I want in a president.
Posted By: dsprl2000 @ 11/07/2007 11:56:35 AM

Comment: Iamnotdisclosing said If Hillary Clinton couldn't keep her family, mainly her husband, together and working in harmony, then how can we expect her to achieve the same feat with a country!

That sounds much like the logic in the Bible that says that if a man cannot control his own family then he can not be the pastor of a church. If one wants to use biblical logic then considerate that the man is head of the house and it is his job to lead his family. I do believe that Bill failed on that account but Hilliary did the biblical thing. Her family is still together.

I'm a republican and an evangelical and I'm voting for Hiliary unless she chosses John Edwards as her running mate (I'm also from North Carolina)
Posted By: brogowski @ 11/07/2007 11:08:16 AM

Comment: Bush seems to have a nice family. I like Laura and the girls seem great. He's F** up our country. I don't see a connection between a marital affair and and killing 100,00 Iraqi civilians for lucrative contracts that will eventually make Cheney rich!!!
Lee Anne Brogowski
Posted By: Iamnotdisclosing @ 11/06/2007 6:49:21 PM

Comment: Would agree with "LongBeachKimmers"... However, I would be so forward as to say that voting for Hillary Clinton just to get a women in office is not only ignorant, but stupid. If we vote in a woman into office she should be the RIGHT woman. As a student who has eyes on politics for her future, I think that voting in Clinton runs the risk of making it even harder for women to succede in politics. What does it say about us if we are willing to go along with anyone who is the same gender as we are.

On last comment is this: If Hillary Clinton couldn't keep her family, mainly her husband, together and working in harmony, then how can we expect her to achieve the same feat with a country! What we need in this time of our nation is a President who can unify our country.
Posted By: LongBeachKimmers @ 11/06/2007 5:37:23 PM

Comment: I think that voting for a woman just because she is a woman is an amazingly ignorant thing to do, just as voting for a black man just because he is black would be ignorant. Let's get the BEST candidate in office, whether he/she is black, white, male of female. It would be like some gender-based affirmative action! Hillary does not stand for anything, makes no difinative statements, and cannot seem to answer a question directly. Remember - those who stand for nothing will fall for anything! Let's forget the democratic/repubican, left-wing/right-wing line and stop polarizing America! We need both wings to fly!
Posted By: dotshock @ 11/06/2007 2:12:11 PM

Comment: With the ever increasing list of critique against Hillary, how can she be right on everything? How can her candidacy appear stable when she is being viewed and cross-examined by every imaginable and non-imaginable circumstance and what-if anyone can dream up?
First of all tell that two-faced John Edwards to knock off the negative campaigning and get back on message. Same for Obama. If anyone on the Democratic ticket ressembles a Republican its those two and their below the belt campaign style. If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, I'm voting Independent cause I can't forgive the negative, Swift boat style of campaigning the other camps are doing. If they succeed at it, then the party as a whole just became the enemy. And I have to ask most of you anti-Hillary types this. Do you see Hillary for what she truely is or is it the face that the MSM and Republicans keep trying to put on her? If you have not met the woman first hand, you have no business putting words in her mouth. This red blood American MALE farmer sees only one person to unravel the crap the current admin. has covered the fine name of America with, and its not one of the same party, nor is it a trial lawyer or Senator with 20/20 hindsight and the benefit of not being a Senator when going to war with Iraq war was being discussed. We are seeing the Republican machine going after her and its vast and deceptive. Its so broad if you are alert to it, you see it everyday and in many ways. The best thing that could happen to this country is to elect Hillary president so we can bury some of the stereotype labels we've been too lazy to do until now. Any woman not voting for Hillary needs to see a proctologist.
Posted By: j737rivers @ 11/06/2007 12:36:39 PM

Comment: I am a woman and I am not voting for Hilary. I have too much of a value for being informed to vote for a candidate just because she is a woman. Hilary hasn't really answered important questions to a satisfactory degree, for me. She seems to be circular in her views, trying to please everyone, and not actually giving feasible solutions to problems that matter so much today. Therefore, I am not voting for Hilary, not because of the gender she happens to have, but because she doesn't show signs of being a good leader.
Posted By: j737rivers @ 11/06/2007 12:35:22 PM

Comment: I'm a woman and I am not voting for Hilary. I have too much of a value for being informed to vote for a candidate just because she is a woman. Hilary hasn't really answered important questions to a satisfactory degree, for me. She seems to be circular in her views, trying to please everyone, and not actually giving feasible solutions to problems that matter so much today. Therefore, I am not voting for Hilary, not because of the gender she happens to have, but because she doesn't show signs of being a good leader.
Posted By: j737rivers @ 11/06/2007 12:31:32 PM

Comment: I'm a woman and I am not voting for Hilary. I have too much of a value for being informed to vote for a candidate just because she is a woman. Hilary hasn't really answered important questions to a satisfactory degree, for me. She seems to be circular in her views, trying to please everyone, and not actually giving feasible solutions to problems that matter so much today. Therefore, I am not voting for Hilary, not because of the gender she happens to have, but because she doesn't show signs of being a good leader.
Posted By: BNG1987 @ 11/06/2007 12:15:17 PM

Comment: We need Hillary in the White House! Hillary is just as quailfied for the presidency as any one else running if not more. Also when Bill was in office the economy was awesome and we were not in a war over oil. Beacuse lets face it that's all this war is over. Bush's father ownes oil wells! Now that Bush has taken office the economy has gone to crap, oil is at record highs and we are at war for "WMD's". Yeah okay! If we get Hillary, who I think most deserves the presidency, we also get Bill back. Who by the way was framed with the Monica Lewinski act. Who really keeps their dress with bodily fluids on it unwashed?! I say go Hillary!
Posted By: BNG1987 @ 11/06/2007 12:03:47 PM

Comment: We need Hillary in the White House! When Bill was in the White House the economy was awesome and there was no war over oil. Because lets face it that is what this war is about. Ever since Bush took over the presidency the economy has fallen apart and we've gone into World War III. If we get Hillary in the White House we get both her and Bill. What is better than that?!
- Posted By: stuarta1979 @ 11/06/2007 12:25:04
  
  Comment: Thats right. We get to have a foreign diplomacy that matched Bill Clinton's. Everytime we get attacked, we'll just stick our heads in the sand and redirect the people's attention away from the true issues with a sex scandle. Also, our economy was being sucked dry from the inside. Our debt was being paid off with the surplus in the Social Security treasury. So, we just shifted debt, not really taking care of the root cause....too much spending by the government and government expansion.
  - Posted By: justDNA1 @ 11/06/2007 13:22:17
    
    Comment: Comment: The "sex scandal" probably would not have garnered such attention were it not for Republicans pushing it to the forefront at every possible moment. Let's not for get the ever self-preserving press either. The "true issue??" Was Saddam or Osama bin Laden responsible for 9/11? Every situation could be handled differently given hindsight. I am sure even some Republican leaders and other members of the current administration will eventually say, "Well, this or that could have been done better." Oh wait, that has already happened. Let's not touch government spending and expansion. I am not sure of any time that such an abuse of a President's power was so evident as it is with the current President. I don't know if there has ever been a time of such blatant disregard for law or the people's will as there is now. Hopefully, whoever takes office next (Republican or Democrat) will do something positive to unite our country and make the U.S. a postive player in the world community.
Posted By: Disillusioned Liberal @ 11/06/2007 12:03:41 PM

Comment: For crying out loud! Stop with the gender crap. She has successfully diverted attention from what she would do as president (what is her agenda for the country? What bills will she initiate for the crippled domestic programs? Why, exactly, will it take another ten years before we're out of that sink hole in the Middle East?) to her gender and how bad the boys are for picking on her. How could anyone, man or woman, vote for her when she has yet to give a straight answer on anything? Geez, I thought we outgrew the boys vs girls stuff when we left high school. I say, "ADBH", any Democrat but HIllary.
Posted By: Hillary4Pres @ 11/06/2007 12:03:01 PM

Comment: The only reason sex has become an issue is because the media has made it so. It is shameful that the general media pundits have latched onto this aspect and blown it way out of proportion. The journalists who claim to be professional and earnest in their reporting are doing a great injustice to their field. They are intentionally sensationalizing comments made by candidates, specifically Hillary Clinton, and have shown themselves to be unrelenting in defaming a great leader of our day and future President of the United States of America. Hillary will become our next president no matter what the media projects. You're only serving to discredit yourselves and your profession. How disgraceful!
Posted By: Hillary4Pres @ 11/06/2007 11:58:30 AM

Comment: The only reason sex has become an issue is because the media has made it so. It is shameful that the general media pundits have latched onto this aspect and blown it way out of proportion. The journalists who claim to be professional and earnest in their reporting are doing a great injustice to their field. They are intentionally sensationalizing comments made by candidates, specifically Hillary Clinton, and have shown themselves to be unrelenting in defaming a great leader of our day and future President of the United States of America. Hillary will become our next president no matter what the media projects. You're only serving to discredit yourselves and your profession. How disgraceful!
Posted By: kjb79 @ 11/06/2007 11:58:25 AM

Comment: I think sexism in America is sometimes blatantly obvious and then at other times delicately subtle. To a point when even a man may not realize he is guilty of it. Before writing this article, did you sit back and ask yourself why in 2000 Rick Lazio felt he could get away with approaching Hillary the way he did? Did you ask yourself why Tim Russert was questioning her about Monica Lewinsky? Was any other candidate???s marriage called into question? In Hillary???s last run for Senate an opponent mentioned that he thought she got plastic surgery, because she was ugly in some college photos. Have you ever heard of any other candidate accused of plastic surgery? Even in the debates this year, the other candidates were asked to comment on Hillary???s pant suit? Were any other candidate???s suits brought into question? How can you honestly sit back at your computer and write an article about how Hillary plays the gender card when that was the card the press gave her?

The last Democratic debate I wasn???t angry at the other candidates for attacking Hillary. I was angry at the press for their way in handling what was supposed to be an objective debate. The press took part in setting the other candidates up to criticize her like a game of volleyball. They set up the questions and John Edwards and Barack Obama came down with the spikes almost as if they were handed those questions ahead of time. She???s not being treated equally by the press and that???s what is getting underneath my skin. Even in a line from your own article, ???Ferraro???s line felt awfully 1970s??? What???s wrong with that? See, that was your attempt at being condescending to her point of view, because she stuck up for Hillary who for some reason or another you have a bias against.

Her gender isn???t something that works for her or works against her. It???s something she must deal with. And in dealing with it, she in turn shows how much stronger she is then the other candidates, because it rarely gets her down.
Posted By: kjb79 @ 11/06/2007 11:50:32 AM

Comment: I think sexism in America is sometimes blatantly obvious and then at other times delicately subtle. To a point when even a man may not realize he is guilty of it. Before writing this article, did you sit back and ask yourself why in 2000 Rick Lazio felt he could get away with approaching Hillary the way he did? Did you ask yourself why Tim Russert was questioning her about Monica Lewinsky? Was any other candidate???s marriage called into question? In Hillary???s last run for Senate an opponent mentioned that he thought she got plastic surgery, because she was ugly in some college photos. Have you ever heard of any other candidate accused of plastic surgery? Even in the debates this year, the other candidates were asked to comment on Hillary???s pant suit? Were any other candidate???s suits brought into question? How can you honestly sit back at your computer and write an article about how Hillary plays the gender card when that was the card the press gave her?

The last Democratic debate I wasn???t angry at the other candidates for attacking Hillary. I was angry at the press for their way in handling what was supposed to be an objective debate. The press took part in setting the other candidates up to criticize her like a game of volleyball. They set up the questions and John Edwards and Barack Obama came down with the spikes almost as if they were handed those questions ahead of time. She???s not being treated equally by the press and that???s what is getting underneath my skin. Even in a line from your own article, ???Ferraro???s line felt awfully 1970s??? What???s wrong with that? See, that was your attempt at being condescending to her point of view, because she stuck up for Hillary who for some reason or another you have a bias against.

Her gender isn???t something that works for her or works against her. It???s something she must deal with. And in dealing with it, she in turn shows how much stronger she is then the other candidates, because it rarely gets her down.
Posted By: sosebee2 @ 11/06/2007 11:25:42 AM

Comment: Not so fast! Hillary Clinton seems a bit too anxious to get this primary process over with so she can get on to the big game. But she needs to play the current game which is allowing the voters (the employer) to discover where she intends to go with the country after she gets the job. This election isn't just another election cycle for most of us. Issues that are larger than anything we ever imagined 20 years ago have to be dealt with. We are waiting out the current President while we contemplate the next President changing course. I don't think we're going to be satisfied with tasty soundbites. I realize the Dean Scream sank Dean's candidacy but sometimes I wish Mrs. Clinton would show us more than a pre-packaged campaign blitz. Her answers to real questions about her history in the Clinton White House: matter. Her vision for America's foreign policy and her justification on the Iran and Iraq vote: matter How will she deal with illegal immigrants: matters. Her answers to what can she will do to turn the misguided American energy policy around: matters.

"Just the fac ts maam".
Posted By: rsuliman @ 11/06/2007 11:14:53 AM

Comment: You guys were waaay easier on Dubya!
Posted By: Writescripts @ 11/06/2007 10:40:12 AM

Comment: Please, no more Clintons in the White House! That also goes for the Bush and Kennedy families. We need to elect representatives who are...of, by and for the people.
Posted By: mort72 @ 11/06/2007 10:25:36 AM

Comment: Regardless if Hillary was playing the gender card or not,so what?? This isnt an election for a seat on the PTA school board This is for the presidency of our country.This is playing hardball with the big boys. Using gender is a far more subdued political tool than a personal attack on another candidate such as the rant by Rudy the other day demeaning her in what could easly be seen as attacking her for her gender. Rest assured, that as Obama and Edwards fall further behind,as they surely will,they will use any words or deeds they can to get ahead making Hillarys tactics the clear high road in this campaigne.
Posted By: Jack3213 @ 11/06/2007 10:01:15 AM

Comment: Those who support her also feel like victims, as she does, and will do anything including manipulate their way to the top. It shows lack of self respect. Women have come a long way, but with Hillary using the victim card and changing her mind each step of the way, she has not only lowered the standards of women she has projected no ability to lead a country, let alone develop feasible plans that would be succesful. Time for her to cut and run.
Posted By: MSWEET @ 11/06/2007 9:47:05 AM

Comment: Hillary Clintons Gender card is SOOOOOO WEAK, she was asked to answer two questions, she did not answer either one, basically skirtted the issues, when you are asked a question and you do not come back with a answer you are going to be shellacked, whether you are a man or a woman, if you cannot answer the simple questions, you probably shouldn't be running for president, it's a sign of weakness.
Posted By: demosthenes24 @ 11/06/2007 9:27:29 AM

Comment: That one woman, Kate Michelman, isn't just a bystander who is commenting. I read in Time that she works on Edwards' campaign.
Posted By: Poster @ 11/06/2007 9:20:37 AM

Comment: Your article makes clear how the media create something from what is nothing.
Candidate Clinton herself not once said that she felt politically attacked due to being a woman.
Your article "suggests" that somehow Clinton is playing a "race card", when in fact it is her opponents and detractors who keep making that claim in an attempt to create something negative to throw at her.
I do not support Cliinton for president and will not be voting for her in the primary. But, that is due to my political reason not because of her gender.
Posted By: Poster @ 11/06/2007 9:19:53 AM

Comment: Your article makes clear how the media create something from what is nothing.
Candidate Clinton herself not once said that she felt politically attacked due to being a woman.
Your article "suggests" that somehow Clinton is playing a "race card", when in fact it is her opponents and detractors who keep making that claim in an attempt to create something negative to throw at her.
I do not support Cliinton for president and will not be voting for her in the primary. But, that is due to my political reason not because of her gender.
Posted By: sarainitaly @ 11/06/2007 9:15:17 AM

Comment: Can you please report on real matters? These artificial stories are so tiring. Bottom line is, Hillary is, in fact , a woman, and she is, in fact, entering the boy's club. She is, in fact, in unchartered waters. So, in stead of drumming up false controversy and stupid unimportant stories, can we deal with the real, important issues? PLEASE!!!!!
Posted By: greenbug @ 11/06/2007 9:11:29 AM

Comment: I am a woman and I found the whole victim thing to be a stupid move for Hillary. i cannot imagine Nancy Pelosi stooping to such tactics and this is how pelosi became the most powerful woman in Washington. By acting the same as Obama does with his race. The whole situation makes Hillary look weak and whiney and like a spoiled child. Oh, and now the Clinton's have chaged tactics. Now it's swiftboating. oh please!
Posted By: saawariya @ 11/06/2007 8:58:06 AM

Comment: I agree that Ferraro perhaps misinterpreted the situation. However, I don't quite see how the Clinton video, "The Politics of Piling On," is an attempt by Cher campaign to play the "gender card." She's right, it could very easily be a statement on the general insecurity of the other candidates as Clinton is after all winning!
Posted By: madhatter28 @ 11/06/2007 8:30:43 AM

Comment: Did Hillary really "lose" the debate? She did a heck of a lot better than many of the other candidates. Because she's the frontrunner, does her not doing as well as she usually does (and completely trouncing the other participants) mean that of all the candidates, she's the one (or one of the ones) who "lost"? (Okay, perhaps the rules do say that the participant that does the best wins and all others lose.) Apart from those two issues (immigration and the Clinton library docs), she handled the questions with her usual mastery. But, the Obama's-betraying-the-politics-of-hope thing is wearing thin. If she's ready to be president, she should be more than able to respond and then some. The criticisms made by Edwards and others are legitimate. I know she's preparing for the general), but I wonder if primary voters are getting that message... Will they overlook that come January 3rd?
Posted By: mrbassbone @ 11/06/2007 8:18:45 AM

Comment: Hillary is a joke. She "wants" to be seen" cowering because "all the men are picking on me". Sheesh...give me a break. Is THIS the person you want in charge of our military might? She despises our Armed Forces.
Posted By: madhatter28 @ 11/06/2007 8:15:52 AM

Comment: I don't see how you can say that Hillary "lost". Although it is possible for the debates to have one winner (which has been Hillary up until this one?), those that "lose" do so relative to how the other participants faired. The point is that Hillary did a heck of a lot better than many of the others. How would any of them have faired under such fierce attack? Clearly she could have provided a more convincing response to the Clinton library issue and she could have handled the immigration question with her usual mastery (though it was one of the last questions after more than an hour of attack, attack, attack!), but for most other questions, she was convincing and presidential (that's not to say others like Edwards and Dodd didn't do equally well). As for their "Obama is criticizing the politics of hope" routine, yes it's wearing very thin. Hillary needs to hit back with real answers to their criticisms and then some. The criticisms made by Edwards and Obama and others are legitimate. So, why isn't she? She's ostensibly preparing for the general. But, how many primary voters understand that and are willing to overlook it?
Posted By: Sloppy @ 11/06/2007 8:10:27 AM

Comment: Hillary is a liar. She isnt graceful in the least. How much money she make off her porkbelly investment? Everyone not named Clinton went to jail over Whitewater. She is disingenuous, look up the word. It fits her to a "t."
Posted By: jnbransom @ 11/06/2007 8:07:45 AM

Comment: As confused as I am aboujt the candidates, I cannot help but believe Hillary Clinton would bring honesty back to the Whitehouse, and by extension, politics itself.. at least more than anyone else would.
Posted By: Speritgyde @ 11/06/2007 7:51:17 AM

Comment: This again shows the fundamental flaws of believing that Hillary Clinton would make a good presidential candidate. What will happen when she has to deal with Iran's President toe to toe? Or figure out how to handle Pakistan's governmental woes with it's leader? Will she change policy midstride on Social security when it benefis her? Is anybody seeing these red flags waving? As Obama said, this country doesn't need this type of leadership. It definitely needs so much more.
Posted By: Jack3213 @ 11/06/2007 7:44:36 AM

Comment: Those who support her also feel like victims, and will do anything including manipulate their way to the top. It shows lack of self respect. Women have come a long way, but with this HIllary move mentioning gender as a factor, she has lowered the standards of women. She is OUT.
Posted By: Rome0608 @ 11/05/2007 10:52:40 PM

Comment: Hillary is tough cookie.. She will beat anybody up that is put in front of her.with grace and forcefullness..
- Posted By: mrbassbone @ 11/06/2007 08:20:04
  
  Comment: Hillary is a tough "cookie". Heck...she could not even BAKE a cookie before her dopey comment about not liking to cook.

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