If you think Musharraf's wrong to free jailed Taliban members while he busts dissidents, wait until you hear who's back on the loose.
Comment: I would feel safe sitting beside a Muslim or Sikh. You make interesting comments. Unfortunately, there are stereotypes that exist that are not true, but thanks to responses like yours you were able to easily prove that the stereotype is a fallacy, and is indeed not true. Not all Muslims, Arabs and Sikhs are terrorists. It is amazing how a local conflict if not treated can spread around the world. Thank you, I learned something today.
Comment: Eddiewhere, what you say is true. There were once Sikh terrorists. But no more. Sikhs once fought India for an independent homeland of their own in the 1980's. Indira Ghandi's Sikh bodyguard assassinated her for a brutal government crackdown on Sikhs in Punjab, India. That movement has been over for 2 decades. Much like the civil war in Ireland is over. You don't see Irish anymore and get suspiscious. When Americans see people with turbans in the USA they should know that they represent no threat whatsoever. At least, not as part of a global terrorist movement. I'm sure there are some Sikh criminals out there, but Sikhs are far from Muslims and indeed have battled them for centuries on the Indian subcontinent. A Sikh kingdom was a chief obstacle to the expansion of Islam in the Indian subcontinent before the arrival of the British. I would feel very comfortable sitting next to a man in a turban on an airplane, because I know that he is Sikh, and not a Muslim. Muslims in America do not wear turbans. And a terrorist Muslim NEVER would. That would just be stupid.
Comment: The Sihk's who do wear turbans on their heads killed Ghandi in 1984 and bombed a Canadian Jumbo airliner in 1985 killing over 220 people headed to New Dheli. My point is that terrorists like the mafia have penetrated parts of government and the white collar community especially in the technology and sciences field. These terrorist organizations have evolved over time and now have become a threat to the entire globe. What i know is that we got caught with our guard down on 9/11 and it is time to recognize the threat as "real" and not deny it/, and change the subject to religious babble. Americans must realize that we have to be on top of our government so they protect us against technological,chemical, biological and nuclear attacks. Terroists exists everywhere and are not all Muslims. However, there are organizations that are Muslim and Arab that have made it clear they want to eliminate states around the world by any means necessary. They have demonstrated that they have evolved and can penetrate the CIA. Our responsibility as Americans is to get educated and get involved with organizations that provide solutions. Your opinion means nothing unless you have some influence on the topic. We are at war and I think people in this country do not appreciate the fact that there are young men and women dying around the world so you can have the freedom to share your religious and historical input. THis is not about agreeing or disagreeing about stereotypes, this is about reality. And the reality is that many people think that individuals with turbans or brown skin who are terrorists. Whether it is true or not it is reality. THat is the least of my concerns. My concern is that we know there are former soviet republics that are Muslim states who could have entities within there governments who support Al Queda ideology or anti-american ideology not Macveigh(a sick young man) ideology Timithoy Mcveigh did not have the support of Muslim and Arab countries, he did not have spies in the CIA. THe real threat is a terrorist organization penetrating Russian and Chinese governments or to having influences in those governments, or to have merely sympathizers in those governments, who would provide an avenue for terrorists to attack the United States. Or vice versus. Chinese could technologically attack the United States and blame it on terrorists. Foreign policy is a very delicate and ongoing issue. We are in a hundred year war, these terrorists organizations are passing their ideology down for generations. 20 years from know China and Russian could be our enemies and we would be 20 years behind in the fight. You dig.
Comment: shankardada2 thank u for a very good post indeed i only wish i could say it as good as u did. i always thought that one should know the subject in order to be able to condem or condon it. apperently u did your homework which is good. many people express their "oppinions" regarding religion but those are mainly "exerpts" and not true oppinions based on historical facts. now i am not denying very existence of man whose name was Jesus Christ. nor the implication of such in a conception of christianity. but just like with any ideology of mankind even this one has turned out against human race. i'll be brief ond blunt. one should really study the history of christianity to understand the impact it had in the past on not just individuals but whole nations to understand that what islam is going through is surely nothing new to christianity. knowing what divisions, over the years, have been placed among people around the globe in the name of "somebody's" God sometime makes me think if the very religion is actually a very instrument of evil
Comment: now never mind how gullible the schmack musharraf is, cuz i think he knows what he's doing. the question is how far the idiot bush is willing to go with this dictator while gullible americans nod their empty heads everytime this dumb a$$ bush farts through his yappy mouth
Comment: It saddens me,and never ceases to amaze me the amount of people that are so gullible in this world.The melting pot that is called Global Terrorism stretches far and wide across our otherwise peaceful planet, and reaches positions of power not only on a local government level but higher.This has always been the case and always will be. While there is quote: freedom fighters, there will always be sympathisers in sometimes high places of authority who for one favour or another, will always be willing to turn the other cheeck, so to speak.Also when it is appropriate for certain governments to do so, certain things may be done for specific reasons, which the common man need never know about, even though to the common man, it doesn't make sense. In reality, there is a reason, good or bad, for certain decisions.
Comment: Comment: Here was leo decieving people and telling that terrorists are just a bunch of restless fanatis who can't stay still. I was rigtht our enemy is decieving. What do you think about the mole that was working for Hamas(declared a terrorist organization by the United States and Alllies) under the banner of the CIA. That's right Leo they are not the 21st century terrorists have penetrated the CIA. How did this Happen? Because people like LEO thought the enemy fit the status quo a male with a "Turban"// Instead as mentioned the enemy was a women working for the CIA. Leo you underestimated the enemy. Do you know who your neighbor is?
Comment: All males with turbans in the USA are Sikhs, not Muslims, MORON. The Sikhs are in the vanguard of the Indian army and were booted out of Pakistan at the time of partition of the two nations. People with turbans in this country, far from being terrorists, have been at the forefront of fighting jihadi terrorists in Kashmir and elsewhere. Get your stereotypes straight, people. Or are you too dumb even to be proper bigots?
Comment: Musharraf must be arrested or court marshalled.
He holds the secret to 9/11.
Comment: Here was leo decieving people and telling that terrorists are just a bunch of restless fanatis who can't stay still. I was rigtht our enemy is decieving. What do you think about the mole that was working for Hamas(declared a terrorist organization by the United States and Alllies) under the banner of the CIA. That's right Leo they are not the 21st century terrorists have penetrated the CIA. How did this Happen? Because people like LEO thought the enemy fit the status quo a male with a "Turban"// Instead as mentioned the enemy was a women working for the CIA. Leo you underestimated the enemy. Do you know who your neighbor is?
Comment: Musharraf must be arrested or court marshalled.
He holds the secret to 9/11.
Comment: This article should act as eye opener for supporter of Musharraf in western countries. Musharraf and Pakistan amry are the very reason that extremism exists in Pakistan. Taliban was originally created by Pakistan Army and during army eight years rule they only flourished in Pakistan. Musharraf is brutally cracking down liberal and secular element in Pakistan and at the same time releasing score of convicted Taliban from jails as pointed out in this article. Taliban was created by Pakistan Army and this ugly creation won't go away as long as their patrons are in power. USA has given billion of dollars to Pakistan Army to fight terrorism and these dollars has gone into pockets of Army Generals without any serious effort to eradicate the menace of Islamic extremism. Military is shutting down crucial civil society institutions and as a result Al-Qaeda/Taliban are finding room and flourishing in Pakistan.
It is high team that west recognize true face of Musharraf. The only solution to Pakistan problem and extermism is democracy and not Musharraf.
Comment: Terrorists in the 21st century can do a lot more damage than terrorists from a hundred years ago. Terrorist are not all fanatics, they support terrorism because they hate America. These people are not your buddies, they will obliberate this country if they had the capabilitiies. you offer no solution. Your solution is to do nothing and ignore the crisis. I do agree that the leadership in this country has made mistakes, so it is our duty as Americans to help them fix it. You seem like an intelligent fellow, you should work as a consultant for one of the Thinktanks in Washington D.C and advise the leadership how to deal with fanaticss( .who are backed by wealthy supporters)who want to work with anyone who will help them kill us. Biologically, Chemically or nuclear. I don't want people to be scared I want them to confront the reality that there are 5 Muslime states in Central Asia that were former soviet republics. These states, must never be tempted to work with terrorist organizations or American enemies. For example think of the possibility of these states colluding with CHina and RUssia to thwart American interest in that area, what better way to do that than through terrorist. Terrorist disrupt American interest in the middle east, and RUssia and CHina profit as do the 5 Muslim states. America is then blamed for the destabilization. As you can see foreign policy is not a cut and dry isssue it 's complicated . I haven't even touched on the Israeli issues. WHich makes this situation even more complicated. IT is America and Israel against the whole region even against countries in Europe I like to call haters; most notable France and Russia. Putin is disgusted with American plans to integrate missle defence systems in Eastern Europe on land that use to be part of the Soviet Union. This issue could cause Russia to turn on the United States and begin their alliance with CHina. I am looking forward to hearing your solution leo.
Comment: And lastly, lexcathedra, it is probable that "Jesus" is just a figment of the imagination of some writers in the early 2nd century, AD. See http://www.atheists.org/christianity/didjesusexist.html . I would certainly require a mountain of evidence to believe that a man walked on water, or replicated 100 fish out of one, or rose from the dead, or that when I drink wine and eat crackers that I am somehow drinking His blood and eating His flesh... There is surprisingly little to no evidence, in the form of independant observation, as there has been for certain other religious figures' existence, such as Buddha, Mahavir, Mohammed, Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, etc. Not to say that these characters were supernatural, but there is much more evidence in support of their existence.
Comment: As for eddiewhere's concerns, stop repeating the same post over and over again. I agree that we must address the terrorist threat in the Muslim world, I wish that we could do so by simply having Muslims turn away from Islam, just as so many Christians are beginning to turn away from Christianity. But it is probably unrealistic. Instead, we must at least encourage those Muslims who are attempting to redefine Islam to religion of peace, much as Christian "moderates" have done for Christianity. We must make them in our own likeness, "cafeteria faithful." Also, in Pakistan specifically, we must encourage an alternative to Musharraf. We must encourage democracy and economic expansion. We must encourage a government with true legitimacy that can face the militants in the Northwest Frontier Provinces. This will be a government of Muslim moderates; and they will be our saviors, even though lexcathedra despises them so.
Comment: Oh and Lexcathedra - you ARE casting stones in the name of Christianity, by denigrating those who are attempting to moderate Islam by selective readings of the Koran, just as Christians have moderated Christianity over the past half century by ignoring large swaths of the Bible.
Comment: I am not Muslim. I feel sorry for those who are so beholden to books that have caused so much evil in the world. Followers of Islam expanded by force throughout the middle east, Africa, Europe, and Asia. Followers of Christianity crusaded in the "Holy Land" and butchered their opponents. In Spain, Under Muslim rule, Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived together. After ascendancy of the Christian King and Queen, all other religious groups were killed or expelled. Jews butchered their opponents in ancient times. These acts were all COMMANDED by the leaders of their religions. The Pope ordered the Crusades. Mohammed ordered Arab conquests. Moses' God brought on the plagues (although, the plagues are far from documented truths - this is probably an fictitious act of barbarism by your God). It is all pure evil cloaked in the guise of a road to salvation. Thankfully, most Christians are much more civilized than their ancestors were when Christianity was 1400 years old. Incidentally, that is the age of Islam now. When Christianity was 1400 years old, Christians were beheading Muslims, Jews, and Witches. The Enlightenment and Renaisance, an age of reason, NOT THE CHURCH, saved Christianity from the Dark Ages. Hopefully, Muslims will see the light of reason far earlier than the timeframe Christians. When I made the comment of the casting the stone, I was pointing out the internal inconsistency of the Bible itself. The words of the Bible can and have been used to justify any nefarious purpose. The answer to the evils of Islam, like the answer to the evils of Christianity, will come from outside of the religion. Hopefully mankind can soon see these religions for what they are - cynical attempts to manipulate the minds of men at the worst, and crutches for the weak of spirit at the best... I know that speaking to a devout Christian or Muslim is like speaking to a brick wall though. It is amazing to me that you cannot acknowledge all of the evil things that have been done in the name of your religion. Perhaps this is simply the nature of man, to blindly cling to his belief system in the face of overwhelming evidence of its evils. It would be interesting, Lexcathedra, to hear your arguments if you had been born in Saudi Arabia. I'm sure you would be equally as illogical, in support of Osama Bin Laden, that is...
Comment: I think that you are avoiding the topic because you are embarrassed that your religion has be hijaked and that you see the deperation of your Muslim people as they blow themselves up. Just likd the Kamakazi you are desperate Muslims who deep down support their radical ideology. So you have to talk nonsense, nither of you are biblical scholars stick to the topic. Doing nothing and dismissing the terrorist as cave people is not a viable option. The leadership of terrorist movements and their members take many forms, they are doctors, lawyers,businessmen, bankers, old, young, ,male female, political and religious leaders. Terrorist do not need to reinvent the wheel they can purchase the equipment and the scientist from former soviet republics most notalbly the 5 muslim states in central Asia. Could you imagine a President of one of those countries was to work with Al Queda. Remeber an attack does not have to be nuclear it can be biological(diseases) or chemical. This is a global crisis that needs to be deal with socially, economically and politically. Leaders of governments around the world must not even be tempted to support a terrorist organization. The consequences must be so severe that they must fear supporting terrorist groups because it would destroy their own self interest. If the social problems in countries are ignored it will come back to haunt us. Getting rid of terrorist organizations and their leadership and ideology is only half the battle. Working with governments around the world to implementing social change that would promote an ideology of prosperity. People will follow leaders who can better their lives here on earth. So, without social, political and economic reform military action will not have a long lasting impact. After World War 11 everyone had enough the consequences were so high that nobody never wanted to fight another Hitler. They did not alienate Germany after World War 2 instead they helped to rebuild it, WHY? because they wanted to create and enviornment where another Hitler would not emerge. Germany was alienated after world war 1 and was forced to pay astronomical amounts of money in reparitions to Britain, Russia and France. Post world war 1 enviornment made it easy for Hiltler to rise to power. The bottomline is ignoring terrorist movement which has penetrated every continent and class around the world would be a disaster. These movements and their powerful supporters must be confronted and defeated, if not we are in for a big one. The War on Terror is real you just have no idea how much is being done behind the scenes to keep America safe. There have been more than 50 terrorist plans thwarted since 9/11. You completely underestimate the enemy.
Comment: Shankardada2, would you call Jesus a hypocrite for not enforcing the stoning decree against the woman caught in adultery?
Comment: Shankardada2, you've made my point. By quoting Jesus' admonition: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," you have proven that those who WOULD cast stones in the name of Christianity are in truth DISOBEYING what Jesus taught, no matter what supposed authority they may claim to be acting in his name, so thank you, even though I'm sure this is not what you intended to do....As for Muslims "who choose to see the good in the Qur'an," they have no freedom to choose what they will and won't believe if they would call themselves Muslim. Mohammad was quite explicit in how nastily Muslims are to deal with unbelieving infidels, particularly Jews and Christians. See: http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam. The fact that many Muslims live as friends and equals among non-Muslims is not owing to the Qur'an or Hadiths, but to their own personal rejection or moderation of the texts. Call them cafeteria Muslims. Technically speaking, they are apostates. As for the afterlife, you well know that Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead as he said he would. Your current belief, I assume, is that the Gospel writers were either deceived or are liars, which incidentally is precisely what Muslims believe as well. They don't believe that Jesus was even crucified, for no other reason than that Mohammad said that "Allah" tricked the soldiers into crucifying someone else and spirited Jesus to heaven. Why would "Allah" do such a thing? I suspect that it's because Mohammad could not tolerate the thought that salvation would come through a Jew, on the one hand, and on the other, that hell needed to discredit the vicarious atonement, to keep people ignorant of God's gift of salvation, and the best way to accomplish this was by denying that it even happened. You do recall, don't you, that Christianity is the Covenant in the blood of the lamb, but without a death, there is no New Covenant, and Christians are the most pitiable of people, believing a lie. Islam mocks the Cross. Mohammad was happy to serve as hell's "prophet" in this regard.. On his deathbed he implored Allah's curse on Jews and Christians for their rejection of Islam. Nice guy. He gets a lump of coal in his Christmas stocking.
Comment: As far as the theorem of Pythagorus goes, of course it has stood the test of time. But countless other proposals from the same scientist have since been disproven. The same goes for the Bilbe. Sure there are some good things in there. But there are many evil things in it too. We should view it critically and take the good examples from it, and reject the bad. Also we should view morality as having an independent basis from scripture. It seems that unconsciously, you are doing exactly that. Or have you stoned a non-Christian lately? So my question is, why do reject Muslims who choose to see the good in the Quran? I reject both of you simply because I feel that one does not nead the Bible or the Quran to be a good, decent person. And as for the afterlife... Who really knows?
Comment: I did not say that we shouldn't read books 2000 years old. They are part of our heritage. But we should not accept them blindly as guides to spirituality. Clearly Scientology is no better than Christianity and Islam. But maybe it is, in the sense that I have heard of no Scientology passages commanding murder like Deuteronomy. But I don't know enough about that religion to comment. As a former Christian, I feel more comfortable speaking of that religion. No scientist accepts theorems blindly. Instead science is constantly critrically examining and modifying itself. The Church does so only fitfully. The passage that you refer to regards that notion that crusaders probably rarely ate BABIES, which would be cruel even by Christian standards of the day. In the words of Pope Urban II himself: "I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it is meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it." Fulcher of Chartres' account of Urban's speech, Urban II: Speech at Council of Clermont, 1095, Five versions of the Speech (available as part of the Internet Medieval Sourcebook). In 1492, a year famous for the adventures of Columbus, the entire Jewish community was expelled from Spain during the Spanish Inquisition. The Spanish Inquisition was lead by the Spanish monarchy and clergy and was approved by Pope Sixtus IV. This led to the deaths of tens of thousands Jews and Muslims, either during forced migrations, torture, or imprisonment. Open your eyes, do your research, my friend, and stop blindly accepting what your preacher tells you. And when it comes to denigrating Islam for its commands to kill, remember the famous quotation, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Check your own Bible, which on the one hand preaches against murder, and on the other espouses stoning of heretics.
Comment: Shankardada2, it is hardly a well known fact that Crusaders cannibalized the fallen Arabs during their campaigns. In fact, as the link you included notes, it was the Tafurs alone who may have cannibalized some of their victims during the First Crusade: "Specifically, starving crusaders were reported to have eaten their fallen Muslim opponants. (sic) Although such behavior was undoubtedly very rare, sources claim that Muslims spread terrifying rumors of crusaders "who fed very greedily on the bodies of saracens." So, cannibalism may have occurred for reasons of hunger, and Muslims may have lied about it., but what does any of it have to do with Christianity according to the Canon? As for the Pope granting Crusaders a "free path to heaven," would you be so kind as to provide documentary evidence? I am simply not going to take your word for it. Ditto for the Church's "wholesale slaughter and torture of Jewry during the Inquisition." My contention regarding Islam is that the Qur'an justifies and even commands all manner of abuse up to and including murder perpetrated by Muslims against unbelievers, "polytheists," and "infidels.". The same cannot be said of the New Testament....You don't like the thought of using books that are 1200-3000 years old to guide our spirituality? Does that mean that you prefer more current spiritualities, like Scientology or Unitarian Universalism, or are you saying that the older something is, the more irrelevant it becomes? Following this skewed logic, the Theorum attributed to Pythagorus (c.560-c.480 B.C.) should be ditched, which may actually be almost 4000 years old, not to mention the Hippocratic Oath, which is probably 2300 years old. Your whole argument IS laughable.
Comment: Lexcathedra, it is well-known fact that Crusaders cannibalized the fallen Arabs during their campaigns. You may say that Crusaders do not represent Christianity, but you have to remember that the Pope, head of your Church, granted all who went on Crusades a free path to Heaven. Please see http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html, or just watch the History Channel's special on the Crusades. I would think such a devout Christian as yourself would take pride in the Crusades and would want to know the details of those brilliant military campaigns. The references are from Christian sources, not Arab ones. Do you deny the Church's wholesale slaughter and torture of Jewry during the Inquisition? These are all known facts. You may say that these events do not represent "true Christianity," whatever that means. But then you are no different from Muslims who reject Islamists as unrepresentative of Islam. Face it - horrible, horrible things have been done in the name of all religions. And the people doing them have found passages in their scriptures to justify themselves. Why do we use books that are anywhere from 1200-3000 years old to guide our spirituality? It is fine to study them critically, but accept them blindly??? We don't use 1700 year-old science books, or grammar books. The whole thing would be laughable, if it weren't so deadly.
Comment: Shankardada2, you are quite fond of throwing libelous charges and accusations around, without providing a shred of evidence in support of your assertions of "fact," aren't you? If you have proof, produce it,, otherwise quit posting complete rubbish, like Crusaders devouring the corpses of Arabs they slaughtered! What independent and authoritative source provided this gem? Only an idiot would believe it, but even if, for the sake of argument, some Crusaders engaged in canibalism says nothing about the tenets of Christianity, an essential distinction that you don't care to draw because it doesn't suit your foul purposes. Again, exterminating Native Americans under the guise of "Christianizing" them says nothing about Christianity, but everything about the exterminators. The short of it is that you aren't interested in the truth, but in spewing bile, which has quite evidently eaten thorugh your facade of rationality. Better just to abandon it altogether...Finally, the Old Testament is seen by Christians as the root, the prophetic foundation, that came to fruition in the person of Jesus of Nazareth. The New Testament does not abrogate the Old Testament since, unlike the Qur'an, there aren't contradictions that need to be reconciled; the New rather fulfills the Old. See: http://www.i-amfaithweb.net/ot_prphcs_flflldby_yeshua.htm
Comment: The american public might have to suffer the foreign policy that serves the fight against terror at the expense of their youth in less than ideal circumstances but those of the world who think politics has the last word, we fight our fights when we vote. This next election was set to be one returning the government to a more peaceful and internally productive role however the unrest among Muslim nations will upset that easily. There is no doubt that Islam has inside itself an ability to turn on a dime to kill. We have suffered it numerous times as has the rest of the world and we are not ready to accept a lie that will get your killers another whack at our bellies. We will elect a leader capable of delivering a policy to end this foolishness of debating religion while being stabbed in the back. It is quite clear that the change we seek is slow and costliy to us but it is highly preferred it be faster and costlier to those responsible for these populations. The Saudi kingdom is matched by Iran in the resistance to western values. The hate mongering is all inside their religious populations and they play coy about what to do about it. That leaves the west with only one conclusion, there is a united interest among all muslim nations to upset the west and constantly seek to expand the rule of Islam world wide as is in the scriptures. This is a pathetic truth and it can only be stopped by Muslim scholars world wide. They have recently spoken and their offer of protection,conversion or death is unfortunate. The truth exposed is that there is an axis of religiously governed peoples masquerading as peaceful.
Comment: adirondack_1: It is not only Islam that has it wihtin itself the will to kill. All religions do. We all need to move beyond using these outdated religions to guide our lives. We need to better the condition of mankind here and now, and not naively await the spoon-fed promises of an afterlife of milk and honey. Back to the issue at hand of Musharraf - We need to press for him to step aside and allow the creation of a government with some legitimacy so that it can concentrate on fighting the Islamists, rather than fighting its lawyers and scientist.
Comment: Comment: The 21st century terrorist is a decieving enemy that preys on entities that leave themself vulnerable to attack(innocent). Doing nothing and dismissing the terrorist as cave people is not a viable option. The leadership of terrorist movements and their members take many forms, they are doctors, lawyers,businessmen, bankers, old, young, ,male female, political and religious leaders. Terrorist do not need to reinvent the wheel they can purchase the equipment and the scientist from former soviet republics most notalbly the 5 muslim states in central Asia. Could you imagine a President of one of those countries was to work with Al Queda. Remeber an attack does not have to be nuclear it can be biological(diseases) or chemical. This is a global crisis that needs to be deal with socially, economically and politically. Leaders of governments around the world must not even be tempted to support a terrorist organization. The consequences must be so severe that they must fear supporting terrorist groups because it would destroy their own self interest. If the social problems in countries are ignored it will come back to haunt us. Getting rid of terrorist organizations and their leadership and ideology is only half the battle. Working with governments around the world to implementing social change that would promote an ideology of prosperity. People will follow leaders who can better their lives here on earth. So, without social, political and economic reform military action will not have a long lasting impact. After World War 11 everyone had enough the consequences were so high that nobody never wanted to fight another Hitler. They did not alienate Germany after World War 2 instead they helped to rebuild it, WHY? because they wanted to create and enviornment where another Hitler would not emerge. Germany was alienated after world war 1 and was forced to pay astronomical amounts of money in reparitions to Britain, Russia and France. Post world war 1 enviornment made it easy for Hiltler to rise to power. The bottomline is ignoring terrorist movement which has penetrated every continent and class around the world would be a disaster. These movements and their powerful supporters must be confronted and defeated, if not we are in for a big one. The War on Terror is real you just have no idea how much is being done behind the scenes to keep America safe. There have been more than 50 terrorist plans thwarted since 9/11. You completely underestimate the enemy.
Comment: Oh, and one last thing - if the New Covenant abrogates the Old Testament, then your Christianity does the same thing your website accuses the Koran of doing. If it doesn't apply, then why the heck is it in the Bible?
Comment: BTW, Shankardada2, why do you suppose it is called the New Covenant, and not the Addendum to the Old Covenant? Why do Christians NOT have to be circumcised, or why can they IGNORE the OT's dietary requirements? Pick the right target, Bozo.
Comment: You truly are a Christian Apologist. The Catholic Church used the very passage I mentioned when condemning Jews and heretics during the Inquistion. Actually, you spend some time studying history and your own Bible. You will see that the Bible served as the handbook for any number of tortures and atrocities that the Church and Protestant England committed on other peoples thoughout the world. From the Crusaders, who devoured the corpses of the Arabs they slaughtered, to the American settlers, who exterminated the Native Americans under guise of "Christianizing" them. Modern "Christians" are modern only to the extent that they IGNORE their own religion, or reinterpret it to something it was not meant to be. Better just to abandon the facade altogether...
Comment: Who knows who actually wrote any of the passages in the Bible or the Koran? The Bible was assembled by a conference (The First Council of Nicea) put together by your "civilized" Roman Emporer, Constanine in 325 AD. Some books were included, others were left out. Far from being a divine book, the Bible is a completely human endeavor, assembled by politicians under the guise of scholars. These were the same Romans who continued to enjoy gladiatorial combat and practiced slavery.
Comment: Word to Shankardada2, get your facts straight, unless you'd really rather play the troll. Saul who became Paul, and who wrote most of the Christian epistles, could have been called a killer and subjugator PRIOR to his conversion to Christianity. According to tradition, he was put to death by the "civilized" Roman Empire, as was Peter, another NT author. John died in captivity and James fled Jerusalem when Rome sacked the city. Luke was a physician, Matthew a tax collector. Of course, none of this matters to you, does it? You'd rather just spew bile,. Suggestion: your "facade of respectability" needs work...
Comment: "If your brother, the son of your father or of your mother, or your son or daughter, or the spouse whom you embrace, or your most intimate friend, tries to secretly seduce you, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods,' unkown to you or your ancestors before you, gods of the peoples surrounding you, whether near you or far away, anywhere throughout the world, you must not consent, you must not listen to him; you must show him no pity, you must not spare him or conceal his guilt. No, you must kill him, your hand must strike the first blow in putting him to death and the hands of the rest of the people following. You must stone him to death, since he has tried to divert you from Yahweh your God..." (Deuteronomy 13:7-11). Apologists for Christianity, the religion of peace, behold your own Bible!
Comment: Read up on "The Quran's Doctrine of Abrogation," here: http://www.islamreview.com/articles/quransdoctrineprint.htm
Comment: All "religious moderates," and this includes Muslims, are moderate only to the degree that they ignore certain teachings of their religions. However, even religious moderates (Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc.) are enablers of the religion. The moderates allow the religion to limp along with a facade of respectability. In reality, the religious texts were penned by barbarians who killed and maimed and subjugated their opponents.
Comment: Also see http://jihadwatch.org/
Comment: Islamist: http://www.islamistwatch.org/
Comment: I am extremely disturbed with the irresposible and loose way of using the word " Islamist" to define certain group of people inthe news media. It seems that they are trying to present the word islamist as synominous to terrorists, when in reality Islam is totally against terrorism.
Comment: to jacobpetersontaxans: First of all, all religions are foolish attempts at imprisoning the minds of people with dogma set in stone anywhere from 1200-3000 years ago. That being said, the word Islamist is the perfect word, even better than the word Crusader. The term sums up a terrorist ideology and equates it with the source of that ideology - a particular interpretation Islam. It is a brilliant play on the words "racist" and "fascist," whose movements had similar goals to Islamists. All three believe in the inherent superiority of their particular sect. All three have bizzare and evil plans for world domination. All three believe in subjugation and even extermination of their opponents. Nobody in the media will call a responsible, peace-loving Muslim an Islamist. If that Muslim believes in establishing a caliphate from Spain to Indonesia, or if that Muslim believes the solution to the world's problems is for all infidels to convert to Islam, or all Shiites to become Sunni (or vice versa), then that Muslim is an Islamist. Get use to the word.
Comment: No man who has died is going to crack the sky and save your pitiful Butts. Muslim or Christian. You people and your death wishes are going to get everyone killed. I wished the Bible said that if you commit suicide you can get to heaven. So all of you religious freaks can just go kill yourselves instead of taking the rest of us with you. For goodness sakes these books were written when they thought the world was flat.
Comment: Bush and Cheney must be impeached. What the F is wrong with the Dems and Nancy Pelosi.
Comment: Bush and Cheney must be impeached. What the F is wrong with the Dems and Nancy Pelosi.
Comment: Looks to me like the Taliban is the least of Mushie's worries in Pakistan. The whole country is sick of him and wants him out. That's what happens when you have hundreds of Madrassas teaching poor illiterate Muslims that their purpose in life is to memorize the Koran and kill those that don't believe as they do Not very useful skills if one wants to make a living, raise a family and have a measure of happiness in life.
Comment: For those of you who are worried about these nations having nuclear bombs I don't care in the slightest about a nuclear threat and anyone who thinks that there is one from nations who are still in the stage of enriching uranium or nations that have a few bombs but absolutely no way in which to dfeliver them, should do a litle reading on just how hard it is to set one of the things off and just how heavy and delicate an early model bomb such as possessed by India and Pakistan is. Even Tom Clancy couldn't make the bomb go off. The nuclear threat is little more than a callous ploy on the part of an incompetent President to justify his silly, stupid, unnecessary and totally failed "War on Terrorism."
The latest reports on terrorist activities indicate that since 9/11 there have been 23 documented terrorist attacks, both successful and thwarted, around the world. That works out to less than four per year and with limited loss of life. However if you want to consider anything that is done by those opposed to the United States such as insurgents trying to drive us out of Afghanistan and Iraq, civil wars such as in Iraq, attacks by rebel forces in Pakistan and other countries undergoing civil wars, turban wearing men beating their wives, jay walking by an Arab person, jumping up and down yelling "Death to the Great Satan," and expressing pride in their country on the part of Middle Easterners as "terrorism," then there are many such events. But real terrrorists are few and far between and they are largely confined to caves 7000 miles away from the United States, are armed with rifles and homemade bombs and spend a lot of time muttering into their beards. They pose no more threat to our nation than bee stings or lightning strikes. However our President does need them to be in the millions and their attacks in the thousands to justify the 2 trillion dollars already spent and the trillions yet to come on a farce called the "War on Terror."
The "War on Terror" is a creation of a weak President with the connivance of an out of control media. So too is al Qaida. There is absolutely no reason for al Qaida to exist in order to account for what has already happened and what may yet happen. Terrorism needs no world wide organization bent on the destruction of the United States and a web of interrelated cells all waiting for the word to attack. To start with terrorism is an individual action taken by a few fanatics who are not likely to be controlled from a central source. No one can get fanatics to sit around and do nothing, which is the state of terrorism today, while waiting for the great day. William of Occam, a 14th Century English philosopher said, "The explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory." This is called Occam's Razo and if we look at terrrorist attacks and use this principle, the most obvious unnecessary as
Comment: The 21st century terrorist is a decieving enemy that preys on entities that leave themself vulnerable to attack(innocent). Doing nothing and dismissing the terrorist as cave people is not a viable option. The leadership of terrorist movements and their members take many forms, they are doctors, lawyers,businessmen, bankers, old, young, ,male female, political and religious leaders. Terrorist do not need to reinvent the wheel they can purchase the equipment and the scientist from former soviet republics most notalbly the 5 muslim states in central Asia. Could you imagine a President of one of those countries was to work with Al Queda. Remeber an attack does not have to be nuclear it can be biological(diseases) or chemical. This is a global crisis that needs to be deal with socially, economically and politically. Leaders of governments around the world must not even be tempted to support a terrorist organization. The consequences must be so severe that they must fear supporting terrorist groups because it would destroy their own self interest. If the social problems in countries are ignored it will come back to haunt us. Getting rid of terrorist organizations and their leadership and ideology is only half the battle. Working with governments around the world to implementing social change that would promote an ideology of prosperity. People will follow leaders who can better their lives here on earth. So, without social, political and economic reform military action will not have a long lasting impact. After World War 11 everyone had enough the consequences were so high that nobody never wanted to fight another Hitler. They did not alienate Germany after World War 2 instead they helped to rebuild it, WHY? because they wanted to create and enviornment where another Hitler would not emerge. Germany was alienated after world war 1 and was forced to pay astronomical amounts of money in reparitions to Britain, Russia and France. Post world war 1 enviornment made it easy for Hiltler to rise to power. The bottomline is ignoring terrorist movement which has penetrated every continent and class around the world would be a disaster. These movements and their powerful supporters must be confronted and defeated, if not we are in for a big one. The War on Terror is real you just have no idea how much is being done behind the scenes to keep America safe. There have been more than 50 terrorist plans thwarted since 9/11. You completely underestimate the enemy.
Comment: Utter and complete nonsense based upon unequivable lack of questioning and blind acceptance of what weak and incompetent leaders want you to believe. There is no such thing as a 21st Century terrorist. A terrorist is what a terrorist has always been, a fanatic willing to take the lives of the innocent or even his own life to advance a warped cause. This has not changed for centuries and despite the words of George Bush that it is a new terrorist we face it is not. What we face is a crisis in leadership which has led us into a nation whose primary characteristic is fear. It is people like you with your massive extrapolation from a single incident, and with imagination worthy of the Brothers Grimm and Sax Rohmer, who create this climate of fear and who will be ultimately responsible for the departure of the United States from the world stage as it wraps itself in obscenely expensive military deterrent against a non-existent threat. Our greatest enemmy is not another nation or a terrorist fanatic or a natural disaster; our greatest enemy is our own weak, ignorant and self-serving leadership.
I agree with much else of what you say though having been there I know that the recovery of Germany after WWII was far more humanitarian and economic self-interest than it was to prevent another Hitler, Ira Levin notwithstanding. And out reasons for seeking accomodations with emerging Islamic Republics, of which we shall see many more in the coming years, should be for those same reasons, not from fear of a few tousand fanatics scattered around the globe armed with rifles and making pitiful home made bombs. If we continue to characterize one billion Muslims as being the same as those few thousands, and if we continue to demand change to our liking in the Muslim world, and if we continue to threaten Muslim nations with invasion, death, destruction, and occupation then we shall never be able to reach any social or economic accomidation with the Muslim world. The result will not be the demise of the Muslim Republics, for they are here and they are the future in the Middle East, Asia and Africa, but our own demise as we create antagonism after antagonism and attempt to confront it with a military which has proven itself ineffective, worthless, anachronistic and obscenely expensive to the point of national bankruptcy. It happened to Greece, Rome, Germany, France, Spain, England, The Soviet Union and so many more and the United States is not immune to the same militarily generated bankruptcy as they. But at least they had enemies as an excuse; we don't even have that and, unfortunately for us, stupidity is not an excuse.
Comment: Terrorists in the 21st century can do a lot more damage than terrorists from a hundred years ago. Terrorist are not all fanatics, they support terrorism because they hate America. These people are not your buddies, they will obliberate this country if they had the capabilitiies. you offer no solution. Your solution is to do nothing and ignore the crisis. I do agree that the leadership in this country has made mistakes, so it is our duty as Americans to help them fix it. You seem like an intelligent fellow, you should work as a consultant for one of the Thinktanks in Washington D.C and advise the leadership how to deal with fanaticss( .who are backed by wealthy supporters)who want to work with anyone who will help them kill us. Biologically, Chemically or nuclear. I don't want people to be scared I want them to confront the reality that there are 5 Muslime states in Central Asia that were former soviet republics. These states, must never be tempted to work with terrorist organizations or American enemies. For example think of the possibility of these states colluding with CHina and RUssia to thwart American interest in that area, what better way to do that than through terrorist. Terrorist disrupt American interest in the middle east, and RUssia and CHina profit as do the 5 Muslim states. America is then blamed for the destabilization. As you can see foreign policy is not a cut and dry isssue it 's complicated . I haven't even touched on the Israeli issues. WHich makes this situation even more complicated. IT is America and Israel against the whole region even against countries in Europe I like to call haters; most notable France and Russia. Putin is disgusted with American plans to integrate missle defence systems in Eastern Europe on land that use to be part of the Soviet Union. This issue could cause Russia to turn on the United States and begin their alliance with CHina. I am looking forward to hearing your solution leo.
Comment: I agree with Zekemob's principles, but have reached a differant conclusion. We should have occupied Pakistan after occupying Afghanistan instead of going on a wild goose chase in Iraq. We could've seized most of the Pakistani nukes and wiped out all safe havens for Al-Qaeda. We would also have eliminated the source of the worst nuclear proliferaters in the history of the world. Pakistan has either offered nukes or the technology to build them to Libya, Iran, and North Korea - all under the auspices of Bush's "friend" Musharraf. The Bush administration once admonished Pakistan that "you are either with us or against us." It should be clear by now that Pakistan is against us. The $600 billion dollars we wasted in Iraq would've been better spent cleaning up the terrorist infested pit that is Pakistan. As it stands now, it is just a matter of time before someone in Pakistan a la AQ Kahn gives nuclear material in a gift wrap to the terrorists.
Comment: Can you learn how to click submit ONCE? You must get a lot of multiple charges on your online purchases.
A) Pakistan is not an Arab country.
B) They have nukes and any country facing your so-called annihilation, would be happy to use them to save themselves.
C) It's people like you that are the cause of the world's problems. You think you are an American because you want to kill everyone in the world that does not share your beliefs? You are the same as the people you want to kill. They want to kill everyone who doesn't think like them.
D) While Cheney and Bush are constantly trying to lay the groundwork for an attack on Iran, Pakistan has become what Bushies are trying to make Iran out to be. A Military dictator, with nukes, who harbors terrorists.
Iran doesn't look so bad now do they?
Comment: " they would be happy to use them" and we need to stop them. before they develop long range capabilities. As mentioned this is a crisis and unfortunately to solve it force must be used. My solution is the only viable option, Remember it is the terrorist who want to kill everyone not me. What is your solution?
You are right Pakistan is not an Arab country, I was just trying to point out that Muslim and Arab countries have people in their governments who are sympathetic to extremist elements around the world. They would not be so sympathetic if the consequences were not in their best interest.
Comment: America never took care o business in Afganistan as a result we have a destabilized region, the has the potential of prducing extremist with nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. After 9/11 we had the world on our side and a chance to eliminate al queda and its leadership. Due to economic and and ignorant leadership we invaded Iraq before eliminating the extremist movement in Afganistan. As a result extremism has grown exponentially like a cancer around the world as a result of Iraq. There is only one solution to this problem and that is to occupy where the terrorist are hiding in Pakistan and Iran, and the five breakaway muslim states from Russia. The occupation must be an internation occupation where the occupying force will begin to implement social change or locals by replacing schools of hate with schools of hope. These schools of a big problem because it is like making a deal with the devil. We are not even touching the head of the snake we are just doig half as** jobs like we did in Afganistan. This is a global crisis the international communit y has to understand that the job must be completed fully. We have to step on peoples toes but we have to do it intelligently not with arrogance and tough talk, but with tough action. People are creating trouble because the consequences are high enough, countries like Pakistan does not need to be lectured or told what to do, what they need is someone to come in and wipe out the extremist and the faction in government that support these extremist . There are entities within all Arab countries that support extremism especially in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, and the 5 breakaway muslim republics from Russia.
Comment: Let's be honest. After 9/11 America had the opportunity to get bin laden and completely destroy the Taliban. It was a half ** as** job. As a result the problem spread to Pakistan. America should have finished the job in Afganistan with sufficient troops and then should have invaded Iraq. Unfortunately, economics, greed and ignorance lead an arrogant leadership into a global disaster . America has always known Musaraff is a dictator, and they supported him. There is only one solution, occupy the territories where the extremist dwell, destroy their camps and replace them with camps of hope, where children could learn trades and skills for the well being of their nation. That would be a good way of spending the billions America give to the warlords. Paying off warlords is like making a deal with the devil, it only contributes to the problem.
Comment: Grow up, travel, learn about other people. Remeber when this whole WAR on terror started, it was reported, with outrage unlike any directed at the present administration, that fighters from various faction that had been fighting each other just days before were attending a wedding peacefully. It is their culture, their customs, their religions. If we truly believed in democracy, not my way or no way, we would have done some intensive consulting up from. We may have found that another word for terrorist is freedom fighter.
Comment: Actually it appears that Musharraf is the only one in this gaggle of morons who recognizes that it will not be long before Pakistan has become another militant Islamic Republic. Perhaps he feels it is best for him to begin now to pave the way for his replacement by the Islamic leaders who are the inevitable result of the feeble-minded policies of Musharraf and his Westen backers. As long as the United States cannot and will not recognize the inevitability of Islamic States in that region and won't forget the high sounding but utterly empty nonsense of establishing democratic values and structures on people who don't understand them, don't want them, know that they would be worse off under them, and will fight to prevent them from being imposed on them, we shall always always lose the hearts and minds of the people. How much better it would be if we bow to the inevitable, bring our uniformed assassins home, let these nations work out their own destiny and work toward establishing mutually beneficial political, military, diplomatic and economic relationships with them. Instead we invade their countries, topple their governments, kill their people, destroy their cities, rape their resources and mock their religion and act surprised that kind of stuff tends to make proud, intelligent, religious people get testy. We reap what we sow. Aid and understanding is the key to our security, not military adventurism and engagement in wars we cannot and never have won. Come home America and tend to your own. Its not easy but we have the total failure of the policy of agression and we can't get any worse with a more tolerant attitude. After all if we can create enemies and we're the best in the world at that, it might also be possible for us to create friends. Even bring back the dozens we have lost in recent years.
Comment: EComment: THe U.S needs to clean house. All countries must realize that there are elements within Arab government and in the muslim world that support extremist.. If they faced annihilation they would not support extremism. IF only AMerica finished the job in Afganistan, we wouldn''t even know who Musharaaf was. As a proud America I share your concern for America's safety. I really feel the five breakaway muslim republics in central asia along with extremist elements in Pakistan, Iran, Syria pose a nuclear threat. It is sad that the new generation youth would have no problem dropping a bomb they do not care about the consequences look how they teach their you to committ suicicde. It appears that the enemy is more dedicated to its movement than we are to ours. We need to back are troops and understand that if we do not sacrifice now we will pay a much greater price later. However we should not sacrifice for an uncompleted job, either we go in or we get out this inbetween business and negotiating with dicatators and warlords must stop. The second threat we face is the disaster in Africa.
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Comment: How sad. America's "ally" once again demonstrates total disregard for all that he declares to be - democratic. Coming one day after 6 American soldiers are ambushed by Taliban in Afghanistan, Musharraf's release of Obaidullah is, in effect, a direct repudiation of the Bush administration's counsel to assure democracy for the people of Pakistan. A recent visit to the Pew website provided an opportunity to examine how people of other countries view America's leadership under the current administration. Why would any foreign leader give much credence to the wishes of an American president whose actions so often fail to align with his rhetoric. It is his failing credibility that, unofrtunately, makes the world an even more dangerous place, more likely to affect a miscalculation on the part of a foreign dictator or despot that believes, to whatever extent,, that current American foreign policy is based more on easily-manipuated expedience than on principle.
Comment: Comment: THe U.S needs to clean house. All countries must realize that there are elements within Arab government and in the muslim world that support extremist.. If they faced annihilation they would not support extremism. IF only AMerica finished the job in Afganistan, we wouldn''t even know who Musharaaf was. As a proud America I share your concern for America's safety. I really feel the five breakaway muslim republics in central asia along with extremist elements in Pakistan, Iran, Syria pose a nuclear threat. It is sad that the new generation youth would have no problem dropping a bomb they do not care about the consequences look how they teach their you to committ suicicde. It appears that the enemy is more dedicated to its movement than we are to ours. We need to back are troops and understand that if we do not sacrifice now we will pay a much greater price later. However we should not sacrifice for an uncompleted job, either we go in or we get out this inbetween business and negotiating with dicatators and warlords must stop. The second threat we face is the disaster in Africa.
Comment: Coming one day after 6 American soldiers were killed in a Taliban ambush in Afghanistan, one can only wonder how dependable an ally Pakistan's Musharraf can truly be. This is not the first time this oft-described "ally" has released Taliban hierarchy, nor is it likely to be the last. Sadly, this administration's penchant for error in foreign relations does little to bolster the confidence of many Americans who are, unfortunately, increasingly anxious about events in Iran, Afghanistan, the Middle East as well as Pakistan. If the administration's actions more truly and consistently aligned with its rhetoric of upholding true democratic values, justice, and international law, perhaps perceptions of, and support for, American leadership in global hot spots would enjoy much broader national and international backing.
Comment: Look up the word Fascist in Wikipedia. I think the definition there would fit the right wing of the Republican Party quite well. The Congressional Dems don't want to do anything. They want it to be as bad as possible for voter outrage come 2008. You think this stuff is all on the up and up? Dream on and pass the Kool Aid.
Comment: Look up the definition of an ignorant dumbass. You'd fit it perfectly.
Comment: you people are scary
Comment: I bought some cotton rags from Walmart awhile ago, They were made in Pakistan. They had a weird smell to them.
Comment: Remember when that evil, commie, LIBERAL Clinton was in the Whitehouse? Gas was $1.12 a gallon, the
twin towers still stood in New York, America had a federal SURPLUS, our President did not try to sell
America's port operations to the Arabs, offshoring American jobs was not encouraged, Saddam Hussien was under control, Protecting the enviornment was actually imporntant, The rich had to pay there fair share in taxes...Are you folks sure you want another Republican President?? williamportor@hotmail.com
Comment: williamportor - Remember when Clinton was in office? The first attack on the WTC occurred, the USS Cole was bombed, Somali Islamists dragged mutilated American corpses throught the streets, and Jihadist lunatics were learning how to fly planes in Florida. Clinton was too distracted to see the impending crisis because he was getting head from a fat chick.
Comment: And we (The U.S. taxpayer) are paying for this!!!! Congress, DO SOMETHING!!!
Comment: Yank1stID
Mushrraf has given to US custody 700+ terrorits and suffered so many casualities, have you forgotten that? you dumb ass?
Comment: We gave the Pakistan government, Musharraf, $11 billion over the last 3-4 years and he folds this fast. Where is the outcry in Congress. Why aren't senators from both sides of the isle deploring this? Is it that $11 billion US dollars aren't worth the time to scream an outrage? What did our intelligence know and when?
Comment: Musharraf is a Terrorist not PAKISTAN and other MUSLIM countries.
Comment: PAKISTAN can beat any country in the whole world if someone did something wrong. We can fight with anybody if some try to rule on us.
Comment: Well, this is the inevitable result of the US declaring war on all of Islam in order to protect Zionist land-grapping in Palestine.
Comment: Well, this was all the predictable outcome of America declaring on Islam in order to protect the Zionist land-grabbing project.
Comment: also nuke fixitup and all those who think as stupidly as does he
Comment: what needs to be done is to jail bush and cheney in a taliban jail
Comment: We might see a huge difference in the world if Cheney, first, and then Bush, were to be IMPEACHED!! The world's people don't hate Americans, they hate what our elected (?) officials have done!!
Comment: Let's do what has to be done..................Nuke the Bastards, and let the games begin...........
Comment: So, let me see if I have the sequence correct.... the Taliban attacks WTC, we invade Afganistan, we ally with Musharraf, we stop tracking down Osama, we invade Iraq, we keep tellinging everyone that the War on Terror must be won, we continue to spend billions on the war on terror in Iraq, we keep sending millions to Musharraf, Musharraf jails the proponents of democracy, Musharraf lets the Taliban militants go free and the White House says that we need to keep sending Musharraf millions.... looks like the War FOR Terror is going smashingly... I sure wish I was in the war-profiteering buissiness like all of the President's friends... I'd be cleaning up!
Comment: If the people of the United States are so stupid to think that the Republicans and other factions representing Christianity and God are their friends and not criminals, then they are not only stupid but you are drunk with God or drunk with you own Nationalism or both and you chose. I'm sick of people protecting criminals in the name of their "God" or their country.
Comment: I heard it on the evening news the other night...fits the Bible Code Prophecy exactly... "Nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists." 2012, here we come...
Comment: "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." Mark Twain
Comment: Obviously, religious fanaticism ain't restricted to the Islamists!
Comment: If the people of Pakistan are so stupid to think that the Taliban and other factions representing Islam and Allah are their friends and not criminals, then you are not only stupid but you are drunk with God or drunk with you own Nationalism or both and you chose. I'm sick of people protecting criminals in the name of their "God" or their country.
Comment: Do you protect George W. Bush and his hoards of uniformed assassins who have emerged with the highest body count of anyone since Pol Pot? If you protect him certainly anyone can protect anyone they feel needs protection.
Comment: Thanks George. Your buddy, Mushy, is really making me feel safer today.
Comment: good view point writers .. I really appreciate..
But can anyone tell me.. that what US will do if talibans hostages its 300 citizens in its own country???
Will it go for War against them in its own.. it means cruching not only the talibans but also its own citizens with them... who are living around them aur those who empathize with them....????
Or it will accept the demands of talibans??? tell me guys what US will doo??
Same were the options infront of Musharaf.. he is also fighting against talibans in its own country Pakistan... but sometime HUMAN is so helpless... same was the conditions of Musharaaf... everyone was saying to Musharaf that they want hostages back.... so what should he do?? I think he has done the rite thing...
It is not Musharaaf's duty to ensure the afety of USa at the price of its pown nation??
Do u all agree?
