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  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 11/13/2007 10:31:04 PM

    And here we have yet another NAIA member eric, spreading the usual smear about HSUS and other humane groups. It's the same smear and same lies, year in and year out.

    Funny how Patti Strand's friends the dog breeders all found their way here!

    And whom do they point people to? Why, more propaganda from Patti Strand, paid lobbyist for the PUPPY MILL INDUSTRY.

    Patti Strand is also on the Puppy Mill committee of AKC, and she is one of the reasons that AKC now makes eighty percent of it's income from registering puppy mill dogs. All that puppy mill blood money pays for those dog shows and other vanities! (Patti Strand is also an AKC judge.) NAIA and Patti Strand are in the business of promoting purebred dog sales, and hurting shelters and adoption programs. Patti Strand and her band of dog breeders (and other affiliates) call mixed breeds dogs, for example, "defective mutts that should be killed." Since the HSUS has exposed puppy mill cruelty, and asks for rules and laws for dog breeders, Patti Strand and other NAIA members smear HSUS and other humane groups at every opportunity. One tactic they use is the smear tactic of calling humane groups "terrorists." Meanwhile, Patti Strand and her NAIA members are running unlicensed businesses and not reporting income and not paying taxes. Money is the root concern of NAIA, as well as hurting adoption programs and manipulating people to buy from puppy mills and purebred dog breeders.

  • Posted By: eric-716 @ 11/13/2007 9:10:15 PM

    http://www.animalscam.com

  • Posted By: eric-716 @ 11/13/2007 9:02:10 PM

    I'm glad to see that at least a few (etbmfa and Waltah) on here are able to see what the H$U$ truly is and see their animal rights agenda. If the animal rights people here want deception and corruption, they need not look any further than their own H$U$. What about the LA Attorney General's investigation into H$U$'s misuse of funds collected from the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts? H$U$ also got caught with their hand in the cookie jar yet AGAIN when they sent out a press release (which by the way, is where your donations are more likely to go instead of actually helping or caring for any animals) claiming donations would go towards the care of Michael Vick's dogs when THEY DID NOT HAVE THE DOGS. How's that for deception????
    Here's another good article that exposes the truth about H$U$
    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_7172876

  • Posted By: thunderhill @ 11/13/2007 9:02:02 PM

    Wow, what a turnaround - how does the Wayne of today who now says he felt a kinship with animals for as long as he can remember square with the Wayne of yesterday who said:

    ???I don???t have a hands-on fondness for animals???To this day I don???t feel bonded to any non-human animal. I like them and I pet them and I???m kind to them, but there???s no special bond between me and other animals.??? Wayne Pacelle quoted in Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt by Ted Kerasote, 1993, p. 251.





  • Posted By: eric-716 @ 11/13/2007 9:00:43 PM

    I'm glad to see that at least a few (etbmfa and Waltah) on here are able to see what the H$U$ truly is and see their animal rights agenda. If the animal rights people here want deception and corruption, they need not look any further than their own H$U$. What about the LA Attorney General's investigation into H$U$'s misuse of funds collected from the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts? H$U$ also got caught with their hand in the cookie jar yet AGAIN when they sent out a press release (which by the way, is where your donations are more likely to go instead of actually helping or caring for any animals) claiming donations would go towards the care of Michael Vick's dogs when THEY DID NOT HAVE THE DOGS. How's that for deception????
    Here's another good article that exposes the truth about H$U$
    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_7172876

  • Posted By: VeganV @ 11/13/2007 8:48:04 PM

    Pacelle writes:
    "Since 1990, I've been part of 20 successful ballot-initiative campaigns to end the abuse of animals."

    It's commendable of Pacelle and others to work so hard at these reforms, but to be honest here, legal reforms alone rarely end animal abuse; most reforms only mitigate or circumscribe the abuse.

    Veganism is the only path to ending animal abuse, and my hope is that HSUS will complement its legislative work with even more vegan outreach than ever before. It may be a more effective strategy in the long run.

  • Posted By: jodym2 @ 11/13/2007 7:50:48 PM

    Sheldon and others who are arguing over uses of HSUS funds and the fact that they don't run their own brand of animal shelters are ignoring the fact that what the HSUS does most importantly is help fund policy to create laws protecting animals! Since when is running animal shelters the only possible way to protect animals? Do you people have any idea how many hours Wayne has spent supporting new policy and testifying in front of congress? He's doing the single most important thing that shelters cannot possibly do: making it safer for our animals with LAWS and POLICY!

    And if you don't like what they do, why are you giving them "your money?" That's a ridicules argument! If you don't happen to like what the HSUS does, then financially support another organization. But I firmly believe that any educated and empathetic human being who does their research on the HSUS will realize what an incredible organization they are. Wayne puts his life on the line, literally, to protect animals, to question his morality and character is a cheap and pathetic attempt at rationalizing the abuse of animals.

  • Posted By: woodviolet @ 11/13/2007 6:55:46 PM

    It's really exciting to see all the people who are ready to fight back the instant they see propaganda posted by operatives of the anti-animal rights groups.

    But it still never ceases to amaze me that people think they can demonize the Humane Society. If it wasn't so unbelievably corrupt it'd be funny. The Humane Society - those big, bad evil defenders of puppies. Those rotten stinkers who want chickens to be able to turn around. They must be stopped!

    Seriously, how do you sorry examples of bankrupt, soulless monsters even BEGIN to sleep at night?

  • Posted By: woodviolet @ 11/13/2007 6:55:19 PM

    It's really exciting to see all the people who are ready to fight back the instant they see propaganda posted by operatives of the anti-animal rights groups.

    But it still never ceases to amaze me that people think they can demonize the Humane Society. If it wasn't so unbelievably corrupt it'd be funny. The Humane Society - those big, bad evil defenders of puppies. Those rotten stinkers who want chickens to be able to turn around. They must be stopped!

    Seriously, how do you sorry examples of bankrupt, soulless monsters even BEGIN to sleep at night?

  • Posted By: aja_esq @ 11/13/2007 4:59:38 PM

    Sheldon, the HSUS affiliates with humane societies across the country regularly. One need only look back as far as California wildfires to find information on the HSUS disaster response team's efforts to support the San Diego SPCA, the Escondido Humane Society, and other local animal shelters in areas affected by the fire. Moreover, the sparkling new facilities built in southern Mississippi and Louisiana came about following post-Katrina grants of millions of dollars funneled from the HSUS to local organizations. It sounds like you have been relying on the Center for Consumer Freedom for your information. See http://www.hsus.org/pets/animal_shelters/what_the_hsus_does_for_shelters/ for more information on the HSUS's relationship with local shelters. (And, by the way, I have no affiliation with the HSUS although I am a volunteer for my local animal shelter in Oregon.)

  • Posted By: John1970 @ 11/13/2007 4:48:41 PM

    What is Pennsylvania thinking to still allow live pigeon shoots? I remember hearing about them in the 90's and thought that they were long gone. Once you see an image from one of those shoots, you never forget it.

  • Posted By: Sheldon PhD @ 11/13/2007 4:43:00 PM

    Look -- I don't know anything about these other groups. But it does bother me that HSUS doesn't run any PET shelters. It's not affiliated with any local "humane societies." It looks to me like the group just capitalizes on the confusion created by its own name. That's not too honorable. I give money to my LOCAL humane society, not this gargantuan lobby group.

  • Posted By: AC89 @ 11/13/2007 4:39:09 PM

    It's unbelievable that pigeon shoots are still legal in PA. Wildlife kiilling contests should banned across the country. Good for HSUS and other animals protection groups for trying to stop these senseless events and for trying to stop factory farming, the fur trade and other abusive industries.

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 11/13/2007 3:39:10 PM

    Waltah is another dog breeder affiliated with NAIA who breeds dogs for sale and sells through the internet. All these unlicensed dog breeders profit from unreported income, and they don't like humane groups that want dog breeders to be licensed and inspected and follow rules. These dog breeders also benefit from puppy mill sales, either directly or through the AKC involvement. Dog breeding is an underground, illicit business in this country and the dog breeders want to keep it that way! So they smear any humane group that is exposing the puppy mills and breeder cruelty and calling for reform.

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 11/13/2007 3:34:12 PM

    And as for etbmfa? She is a member of NAIA. What is NAIA? A group run by Patti Strand, who is a paid lobbyist for the PUPPY MILL INDUSTRY. Patti Strand is also on the Puppy Mill committee of AKC, and she is one of the reasons that AKC now makes eighty percent of it's income from registering puppy mill dogs. All that puppy mill blood money pays for those dog shows and other vanities! (Patti Strand is also an AKC judge.) NAIA and Patti Strand are in the business of promoting purebred dog sales, and hurting shelters and adoption programs. Patti Strand and her band of dog breeders (and other affiliates) call mixed breeds dogs, for example, "defective mutts that should be killed." Since the HSUS has exposed puppy mill cruelty, and asks for rules and laws for dog breeders, Patti Strand and other NAIA members smear HSUS and other humane groups at every opportunity. One tactic they use is the smear tactic of calling humane groups "terrorists." Meanwhile, Patti Strand and her NAIA members are running unlicensed businesses and not reporting income and not paying taxes. Money is the root concern of NAIA, as well as hurting adoption programs and manipulating people to buy from puppy mills and purebred dog breeders.

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 11/13/2007 3:24:21 PM

    Who leaves all the anti-HSUS comments? Easy! The individuals, corporations, and lobbies that MAKE MONEY from using, abusing, torturing animals. The livestock industry, hunters, furriers, dog breeders, you name it. They even have lobbyists that earn millions to smear humane groups. One of them is this guy at consumerdeception.com (he also smears MADD for the liquor industry.) All these animal-profiteering lobbies want to keep their hands on their blood money, so they smear the groups that expose the cruelty and suffering. And they crawl out from under rocks to spread the smear any time organizations like HSUS get mentioned.

  • Posted By: surfbird @ 11/13/2007 11:54:51 AM

    Every cause will have its enemies, but reading these comments it bothers me that the enemies of kindness feel so free to lie. Why can't we have a rational conversation? The HSUS operates its own network of sanctuaries coast to coast, providing care and homes to more animals than any other national animal protection organization in the United States. Their bi-monthly magazine and website, Animal Sheltering, and www.animalsheltering.org, are widely considered to be the most comprehensive resources for shelter professionals. The HSUS has a cooperative buying service to provide discounts to shelters on a wide variety of products and services. Plus, the HSUS assists in the rebuilding of animal shelters damaged in disasters, and supplements local budgets for unexpected disaster expenses. Post-Katrina, these support efforts have channeled millions of urgently-needed dollars to local animal shelters. Anyone can say anything about the organization, but you???ll find the true story at http://www.hsus.org/pets/ .

  • Posted By: ironbridge @ 11/13/2007 11:49:38 AM

    etbma, the Humane Society of the United States DOES run a shelter; the Cleveland Armory Black Beauty Ranch. It also sends volunteer veterinarian--through the Rural Animal Veterinary Services--to treat animals in underserved areas of the United States such as Appalachia. The HSUS also trains staff at animal shelters around the country to help them run efficiently and humanely. That particular organizations that etbmfa endorses is not a legitimate animal welfare charity; is is an industry front group for companies such as Ringling Bros. Barnham and Bailey.

  • Posted By: ironbridge @ 11/13/2007 11:48:10 AM

    etbma, the Humane Society of the United States DOES run a shelter; the Cleveland Armory Black Beauty Ranch. It also sends volunteer veterinarian--through the Rural Animal Veterinary Services--to treat animals in underserved areas of the United States such as Appalachia. The HSUS also trains staff at animal shelters around the country to help them run efficiently and humanely. That particular organizations that etbmfa endorses is not a legitimate animal welfare charity; is is an industry front group for companies such as Ringling Bros. Barnham and Bailey.

  • Posted By: waltah @ 11/13/2007 11:26:30 AM

    HSUS is the nation's biggest corporation devoted to using OUR money to take away OUR animals. Donate to them and the money goes into another press release, another dontation to an animal rights-supporting lawmaker, or a fat paycheck to a lawyer or lobbist out to see that your kids have a lot more trouble getting and keeping a pet than you did. And don't forget higher prices for milk, meat, and drugs. Oh, and there's the increase in mistreatment of animals, as animal usees that are essential but too expensive to do in the U.S. are offshored to places without animal welfare laws..

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