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  • Posted By: truedirector @ 11/16/2007 12:41:18 PM

    I find it interesting that on a predominantly American "board" the attempt to NOT blame a violent society for one of its children's violent behavior abroad is hilarious. Americans need to really study themselves in terms of the GLOBE, because other than war torn regions, we do lead the planet in violent crime... and now we are seeding other places with our insanity. Like one article said, one billionaire theater owner banned Brokeback Mountain (gay love story) from his theaters, yet had SAW III (torture, murder..) running on two screens. We, as a society, went insane regarding J. Jackson???s breast during a halftime show for a sport that glorifies great and powerful collisions between men over 10 yards and a leather ball.

    • Posted By: glorycat @ 11/16/2007 12:47:47 PM

      Once again, I will emphasize that it is ridiculous to blame "America" for this. Are we not all involved in receiving messages from the media? Obviously you are, if you are blogging about an internet story. Why are the majority of us not killers? It takes more than the media and American culture to create somone this messed up.

      • Posted By: regal185 @ 11/16/2007 1:07:47 PM

        Good Call!! I have always found that to be quite funny!

  • Posted By: rodneyarvid @ 11/16/2007 1:06:41 PM

    Yes, that fact is you are what you were taught by your environment! ??the way you behave is the way you behave! Most of the time you have absolutely no choice in your actions that you are doing since you have been manipulated by media, marketing techniques, parents, teachers, friends and many others. Is what you do realy what you want to do 100%? I have reservations on that idea.

  • Posted By: fghcvb @ 11/16/2007 1:02:19 PM

    I can't read anymore comments. I thought the article was nauseating enough. Through glimpsing commentary I was hoping for affirmation that others are as disgusted as I am... While I truly admire those of you able to recall cases and events to justify your arguments of persecution, I hope these are horrible events that you made a point to understand and not scars that you've taken upon yourselves. It's easy to see who is bitter by their comments and I'm sorry life is a fact. I really mean that, but those arguments belong somewhere else. We've all been upset by this tragedy otherwise we wouldn't bother with all this. Can't we focus on that as something we all have in common? Don't use the victim as something to stand on. It makes me sick.

    • Posted By: corrxions @ 11/16/2007 1:06:23 PM

      you damn near stole the words from my mouth, I just read your comments right after I posted mine

  • Posted By: desidj75 @ 11/16/2007 1:03:53 PM

    Just send the american *** to prison... an all male prison where they will reap this *** apart day after day.

  • Posted By: corrxions @ 11/16/2007 1:03:52 PM

    I had to stop reading all of the comments on here, the minds of so many swayed by what they read and see on tv, you cant handle the cold hard facts of life " LIFE " you all should spend more time with your family or do something else that matters. turn off the tv and take a walk, get to know your neighbors. focus on your local community more not what happend a bloodshot airline flight away. turn off the tv and turn to a friend. Unless you are friends, family or neighbors of the people involved in this case, just let it go....

  • Posted By: fghcvb @ 11/16/2007 1:02:35 PM

    I can't read anymore comments. I thought the article was nauseating enough. Through glimpsing commentary I was hoping for affirmation that others are as disgusted as I am. While I truly admire those of you able to recall cases and events to justify your arguments of persecution, I hope these are horrible events that you made a point to understand and not scars that you've taken upon yourselves. It's easy to see who is bitter by their comments and I'm sorry life is a fact. I really mean that, but those arguments belong somewhere else. What will it take? We've all been upset by this tragedy otherwise we wouldn't bother with all this. Can't we focus on that as something we all have in common? Don't use the victim as something to stand on. It makes me sick.

  • Posted By: MDre22 @ 11/16/2007 1:01:39 PM

    She did it....she was a part of it....she was there..so she can't be ALL that innocent....so tell her bye bye!!

  • Posted By: Michamer @ 11/16/2007 1:01:27 PM

    I recall as a foreign student in the late 1980s in Europe, it was clear that many American students forgot where they were coming from and indulged in behaviors they wouldn't dream of back home. This was also true of other European students. It seemed though that many Americans thought that because they were so far from home, nobody would know of the risky and dangerous things they did. It is entirely possible that Ms Knox is one of that type of person. Her friends here would not necessarily be able to speak of her "European personality"

  • Posted By: ncjoy @ 11/16/2007 1:00:47 PM

    It sounds like this poor little American girl got caught....now undoubtedly her family will pay a huge sum for a defense lawyer and the 2 men will be the ones prosecuted for a crime in which she no doubt played a part in

  • Posted By: corrxions @ 11/16/2007 12:55:59 PM

    I had to stop reading all of your comments, the minds of many, you cant handle these stories. I feel that most of you need to stop reading these articles and spend more time with family or do something else that matters. worry about something in your own community, take a walk and get to know your neighbors. turn off the tv and turn to a friend and let life take its course. Unless you are family, friends, or neighbors of any of the people involved in this case, just let it go..

  • Posted By: jesussaves7 @ 11/16/2007 12:53:42 PM

    doesn't everyone get it??? IT'S VERY SIMPLE.... We are a world living without GOD...it will only get worse unless we come to our knees in repentance through Jesus. BOTTOM LINE. I don't care what your religion or beliefs this is the TRUTH. EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE: BONESIE84@HOTMAIL.COM

  • Posted By: chavez011 @ 11/16/2007 12:43:37 PM

    mia the cat stated: Well there is some truth that Americans have a very bad record with race. While rest of the world abolished slavery 3000 years ago...

    Mia, you are misinformed, there is still slavery in certain parts of the world. The U.S. has bent over backwards trying to help "people of color" (that descrition includes me by the way), stop making excuses for people because of the color of their skin.

    • Posted By: livurlife @ 11/16/2007 12:52:16 PM

      Try being Turkish in Denmark, for example, or just not Danish. I live in DK (American) now and there is much to love. But the recently re-elected government is doing very little to imrpove treatment towards non-Danes or 'others.' By the way, age discrimination is legal in Denmark. Go figure. A country that is otherwise very civlized. Point is- you can't generalize about the 300,000,000 who live in the U.S. but you CAN say that many people strive to disregard color and ethnicity in their conduct and are successful socially and in the workplace. While others have allowed that evil feeling of resentment, and that behavior of' self-pity' to guide them. It's not perfect anywhere and no individual is perfect. But we can and should all try to respect each other. Clearly this even was beyond disrespectful. But I would wager that there was disrespect in some forms throughout the lives of those responsible. Think about it.

  • Posted By: Bettie86 @ 11/16/2007 12:51:14 PM

    WELL SAID, THANK YOU!!!! WE ARE IN CONTROL OF OUR OWN MINDS, IF YOU LET SOCIETY TELL YOU TO KILL THAN YOU HAVE A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE AND NEED HELP!!

  • Posted By: dadee @ 11/16/2007 12:51:13 PM

    I was beginning to wonder why American media organizations aren't taking this story seriously. Its very shameful, sad and disheartening. If this crime was committed against an American, it will be the lead story everyday on CNN, Fox etc (a la Aruba story). We should treat other nations with due respect and sensitivity. It is only then we can erase the arguments abroad that we are too self-absorbed and ethnocentric. The extent of this violence mirrors the American society-sex, gun and drug culture. May God help us!

  • Posted By: steelfaith99 @ 11/16/2007 11:45:21 AM

    WHAT US WRONG WITH EVERYONE!!!! THIS IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT RACISM THEN PEOPLE THINK. A WHITE AMERICAN GIRL KILLED SOMEONE ALONG WITH TWO OTHERS WHO WERE FORIGNERS. THEY WERE SICK. NOT THEIR SKIN/NATIONALITY. AND YES ITALIANS ARE ALITTLE RACIST BUT THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE. PEOPLE COME INTO THEIR COUNTRY AND TELL THEM HOW TO RUN IT. LOOK AA THE MUSLIM/MIDDLE EASTERN INFLUENCE DEBATE IN THE MEDIA. ON ANY COST, SOMEONE WAS HORRIFICALLY MURDERED. THE COLPERATE (BLACK, WHITE, GREEN, BLUE, PINK) WILL AND MUST SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES

    • Posted By: spunja @ 11/16/2007 12:46:13 PM

      your stupidity is implied in your dumb post. First, you say this is not about racism. Then you say Italians are racisit. Then you say they have right to be racist. They you talk about Muslims. You know what I can conclude from this- YOU ARE THE BIGGEST BIGOT AND THE SCUM ON THIS PLANET. YOU RACIST PIECE OF CRAP.

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      your stupidity is implied in your dumb post. First, you say this is not about racism. Then you say Italians are racisit. Then you say they have right to be racist. They you talk about Muslims. You know what I can conclude from this- YOU ARE THE BIGGEST BIGOT AND THE SCUM ON THIS PLANET. YOU RACIST PIECE OF CRAP.

  • Posted By: jmac2 @ 11/16/2007 11:19:03 AM

    Quit looking at RACE when a somebody is suspected of a crime, look at the facts and what they lead to. When people insist on mentioning race in a case they quit looking at the fact and they focus on their own emotions regarding race. Depending on your personel history and race this may bring up emotions of guilt or of somebody being railroaded because of there color. Race history and relations are an important part of history and should never be forgotten and we still need to learn from that history and to heal the division between different races. But always implying white people assume he's guilty because he black or black people assume somebody's being railroaded because he is black is not the answer. Look at the facts and do not generalize people based on race, all you are doing is continuing to advance the problem of racism in the world. Next Americans have been involved in numerous conflicts throughout the world, but so has every European country and middle eastern country. The difference is you are looking at the present day and not the violent history or Europe and the middle east. In Dealing with present day facts America is involved in numerous conflicts, if you do not agree with what is going on get involved politically and speek out. This is a free country and your voice counts whether you believe it or not. But sitting on your butt complaing the worlds problems are caused by America is not the answer. It only takes one person to sway political change. You just have to believe strong enough in your cause to be able to reach everyone and not cause people to ignore what you are saying because of the way you bring your cause to light. Nobody said it is easy but in can be done.

    • Posted By: Stephanie_KS @ 11/16/2007 12:45:39 PM

      Well said...I couldn't have said it better myself.

  • Posted By: seawhispers @ 11/16/2007 12:43:55 PM

    I completely understand that the media, parental upbringing, etc....is NOT the only problem here. It's a whole SLEW of problems. Each with it's own "story" behind it as to the "whys" it happened. Bottom line....there is NO PERFECT human being....and NO PERFECT COUNTRY. NOTHING in this world is perfect and never will be. The television shows WE WATCHED when we were children are NOWHERE like what's being aired NOW. What was the norm back then....is NOT what's the norm NOW. And you STILL had murders, rapes, gangs, etc. They've just gotten worse. Any statistics you can find will prove that. The population is growing by leaps and bounds and that alone will effect those numbers. But some of the trash they air on television ISN'T HELPING!! Regardless of what we learn on television, or at home.....we STILL have a brain that knows right from wrong and we ALL have the CHOICE to either do RIGHT or do WRONG. People would think I was pretty lame if I said...."well the color of my skin made me do it".....or "i did it because I was a white woman".....PA-LEASSSSSSSSSSSE!!!! Right now....the only people I feel for in this case, is that of this womans family and what they are going through. It's bad enough to have to suffer the loss, but having it publicly aired only makes it even worse for them. My prayers are with them and I send my deepest condolences to them.

  • Posted By: T-BONE @ 11/16/2007 12:42:04 PM

    REGRDLESS OF THE PORTRAIT HER FRIENDS IN SEATTLE WILL PAINT OF HER, NONE OF THEM OBVIOUSLY KNOW HER TRULY, ONE LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF HER AND HER "BOYFRIEND" WILL ANSWER MOST QUESTIONS, HE LOOKS DOWN AND AWAY FROM THE CAMERA, BUT HER SYES TELL A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY, LOOKS LIKE MOMMAS BABY HAS GROWN UP, SHAME!

  • Posted By: glory @ 11/16/2007 12:40:14 PM

    you are so right, i am american and i am a mother of two. a very goodn example: my sister would always tell my niece things like get over here or ill beat you in a jokeing way. she has never raised a hand to any of her kids. well one day her daughter was in trouble for something or other my sister was trying to get her inside and my niece was screaming "dont beat me mom, dont beat me! now we thought this kinda funny untill child services came. even though we explain what happened even when the child explained my sister still was investagated. good caring parents get in "trouble" for these kinds of small things everyday yet the poor children that are really being abused are put back over and over again to the parents that beat them. untill the child dies at the hand of the parent, oh then we will all take notice and act so horrified even thou in the history of that family there was probably 4 or 5 reports of abuse.
    the u.s. is a wonderful place. but the legal system needs a major overhaul!! we have more rape than anyone else, man, gee, im so proud! i feel if it were men out there geting raped evey 5 sec. it would be alot different. where else than america that if a man kills someone he can get out of prison in 5 to 7 years but if a female kills oh crap! they will but that wicked woman in jail forever! completly senseless. if you kill someone unless its self defence and theres NO doubt ( by dna ) you should just be exacuted within a month over done goodbye! screw the rapist, child killers and murders all sitting in thier warm jail cells watching HBO and complaining how bad theyve got it. i guess they dont no how jails are in other countrys are where you dont even get a bed or warm food. spoiled and self rightous americans are. i think that gos back to the puritan days. im gonna go, i think i see a witch that needs burning............oh no the witchs protection agency is at my door, man i cant do anything any more!!!!!

  • Posted By: rodneyarvid @ 11/16/2007 11:48:29 AM

    That fact of the matter is that humans are the cause of our problems since we have the ability to think we know what problems are! People are the problem, not a lable of race, gender or what have you. The scientific community has assisted in the idea of labeling, dividing, measuring, etc which has contributed to racism, discrimination, and a host of other issues facing us...

    • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 11/16/2007 12:25:57 PM

      The bit about scientific community contributing to racism is not really true. In the past there may have been scientific theories supporting already exisiting racial prejudice, but anthroplogists have known for years what most others don't. Race is a complete myth, in physical reality it doesn't even exist. There's absolutely no biological evidence for it. It's a social construction;in other words it only exists as ideas in people's heads.

      • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 11/16/2007 12:39:49 PM

        oops sorry for the double post didn'tthink the first one had worked.

    • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 11/16/2007 12:36:03 PM

      In the past there may have been some scientists whose theories supported already existing racial views, but antthropologists have known for years what many others still haven't learned. Race is just a myth, iin reality it doesn't actually exist. There is absolutely no biological evidence to support it. It's only a social construction, meaning that it only exists as an idea in people's minds. Every feature people use to describe race are just gentic variations. Saying a person with dark skin is a different race from someone with light skin is exactly like saying a redhead is a different race than a blond. They are all just variations. If the rest of the world could become aware of this truth and understand it they would realize the whole idea of race and racism would become absurd and pointless

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