Death in Perugia

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  • Posted By: T-BONE @ 11/16/2007 12:39:28 PM

    EVEN THOUGH HER FRIENDS IN SEATTLE PAINT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PICTURE OF THIS GIRL, REST ASSURED THAT LOOKS CAN TRULY BE DECIEVING, ONE LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF HER AND HERE BOYFRIEND TOGETHER WILL TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW, HE LOOKS DOWN AND SHE GLARES AT THE CAMERA, SCARY IN A WAY, MOMMAS GIRL IS ALL GROWN UP NOW.

  • Posted By: truedirector @ 11/16/2007 12:23:00 PM

    PaxTerminus.. LOL. . is she had committed this crime in the USA and implicated the black guy (which she did)..she would be getting ready to get off scott free. ROFL..

    • Posted By: PaxTerminus @ 11/16/2007 12:39:00 PM

      Well, I really did not think about that - my point was more that in EU the sentences for the same crimes are much lighter than in the USA. In Europe even the life sentence usually means about 15 years as you are eligible for mandatory parole after serving 60% of your sentence, while the "life" usually means 25 years.

  • Posted By: jeff77 @ 11/16/2007 12:16:02 PM

    I have 3 wonderful children, all adults now, who were never struck while they were being raised. There are more effective ways to discipline your child. So don't give me this "spare the rod and spoil the child" crap.

    • Posted By: cdhinnant @ 11/16/2007 12:36:54 PM

      You seem to have missed the key phrase "out of control"; when a child is drinking, drugging, and partying to the point the police is involved - - believe me it was not her first time. I believe that somewhere along the line Mom was privy to this behaviour and did not appropriately address it then and it carried on, now we have the influence and combination of extreme behaviours brought on by her handsome Italian boyfriend and one thing led to another. See my point. Obviously, your children were brought on the carpet whenever they got out of line and that was enough to get them corrected. That is not always the case, for some children it does take another level.

  • Posted By: _name @ 11/16/2007 11:49:27 AM

    Divorces produce troubled kids.

    • Posted By: livurlife @ 11/16/2007 12:36:48 PM

      Not necessarily. I studied that exact question for an entire semester as an honors project. And I was a divorced adult at the time whose married brother had a more problematic child than I had. Its not divorce, its the constant presence of conflict in the child's world. That CAN follow divorce, i.e. money is often a problem, parents continue to battle in and out of court, parents who do not have full custody promise they will visit and then come late or not at all, parents start dating and do confusing or inappropriate things around their children, parents or others may 'parentify' a child - meaning lean on the child (and by this I mean even if 15, 16 or up) for advice and counsel and really, thereby, creating a situation where the child has to act as a parent while concurrently trying to become an adult him or herself. I am NOT trying to blame single parents here. Actually, its the contrary, there should be more social support for children and families in need. But ALSO, I am pointing out that many children from single-parent households will NOT have these problems and at the same time, many children from two-parent households CAN have problems if there is a lot of conflict from the same or other concerns, parents leaning to much on their children if, for example, one parent is drinking or drugging badly, or if there is sexual conduct that confuses or hurts, or if siblings have issues, or parents fight verbally or physically, or are verbally or physically abusive or if there are other strains on the household such as one or both parents being a veteran of either Gulf war, physical or emotional disabilities, parents being too stressed because of money or taking care of THEIR parents . . you name it. DIVORCE, per se, is NOT the problem.

  • Posted By: geo'07 @ 11/16/2007 12:36:32 PM

    i hope for understanding this planet in perils. we are society, should we not hold some sense of responsibility. look around there is distruction and ignorance all around us. we are too busy to notice this or that until it ends up on our doorstep.... well it's too close now... and still we continue as if it is all meant to be. we are all responsible for this.. we are society.

    geo'07

  • Posted By: Mistress @ 11/16/2007 12:36:14 PM

    yep she did it alright

  • Posted By: lolligagger2 @ 11/16/2007 12:35:46 PM

    This is a very scary world in which we live.

  • Posted By: hopefullyoptomistic @ 11/16/2007 12:34:13 PM

    simply a sad story , sex can be a very dangerous game, especially with numbers, it can change people into aggressive animals instead of rational thinking human beings, if they all were into this kind of sex and she wasn't then she didn't have much of a chance, i'm sure they went further than they anticipated but they lost all form of reason once they all agreed to hurt this unfortunate soul

  • Posted By: fiftyfromlosangles @ 11/16/2007 12:31:27 PM

    It is horrible thought that a female would do this to a fellow female. Her friends from Seattle claim she is a nice geeky gir.l. They don't know her anymore. And she is a whole different perverted person. I hope to gets life in prison for what she and the others did.

  • Posted By: glorycat @ 11/16/2007 12:30:58 PM

    Why are people blaming TV and media for everything? Heinous murders have occurred since the beginning of time. We all grew up with TV and most of us could not conceive of holding someone down and slitting their throat to add "excitement" to our sex lives. Please put this crime into perspective. These are sick individuals we are dealing with.

  • Posted By: Mistress @ 11/16/2007 12:28:40 PM

    i think she had something to do with it or she did it or she knows who did it.

  • Posted By: rodneyarvid @ 11/16/2007 12:28:25 PM

    In most societies (most countries I am familiar with) blaming is a great way to avoide the truth. It is quite funny to know that if we all could be raised in quality circumstances (ie, balanced families, behaviourial training, life planning using well founded principles such as honesty, truth, love, health, respect, and so on that in the long run we probably could reduce or even remove the need for police, lawyers, accountants, jails, armies and other industries we have today. But that is too difficult, isint it. most people would lose their job! So, for the survival of the human race, keep going as we are so we can create more jobs for police and prisons....

  • Posted By: hopefullyoptomistic @ 11/16/2007 12:27:16 PM

    simply a sad story , sex can sometimes get out of ones control and the mind changes to an aggressive animal instead of a rational thinking human being, if i'm reading this story correctly, i think it went much further than they anticipated but if they all agreed to hurt her then unfortunately she didn't have a chance.They were probably all into aggressive sex and this poor girl suffered their consequenses.

  • Posted By: DanDeeLion @ 11/16/2007 10:09:03 AM

    The fact that Lumumba's fingerprints are no where to be found in the house suggests to me that Knox was trying to set him up to take her and her boy friends blame. Maybe she even stole his cell phone and that is why he used a different phone the next day. Why do so many white women think they can always blame their evil acts on the black man?

    • Posted By: mshook12 @ 11/16/2007 12:26:33 PM

      Thank god I'm not as dumb as you. Must be tough being this pathetic.

  • Posted By: seawhispers @ 11/16/2007 12:24:47 PM

    I agree with those that feel that the media and what they air contribute to ALOT of where our children get some of their desensitation. Children learn from what they see, hear, and experience. And they WONDER why their precious child all of a sudden spurts out some of the trash they are seeing and hearing on television! That television is being used as a BABYSITTER by alot of parents who do not seem to realize that their children are slowly learning day by day......that this is OBVIOUSLY how it is in life! That's a scary thought! If we continue to allow our children to THINK....that this "ANYTHING GOES LIFE"......lifestyle is the norm....then don't expect them to be any other way. If they never watched television at all.....then they'd learn it from the MAJORITY of kids who DO! And if it isn't that.....they'll learn from what they see AT HOME! If you have parents who do nothing but fight to solve their problems.....that's how that child will think you take care of problems! A parent HAS to teach that child right from wrong....and that's STILL no guarantee that all will be just PEACHY when they get out on their own. Life is HARD.....our children today have MORE to contend with than even "I" did. This world is rapidly changing. While we're gaining technology by leaps and bounds.....the morals and family ties are taking the back seat. We've become a materialistic society where family and principals are disappearing. That's truly sad. We're going to have a society of young people who have hearts that are crusted over that will lack being able to feel anything meaningful. You have babies having babies....and then most of the grandparents end up raising the children who have their OWN needs to be met in their old age. And we wonder why our children are troubled? They can't learn what they don't experience, see or hear. I'm not saying that ALL parents have faltered by no stretch of the means.....but you know how the old saying goes......the majority rules. All we can do is teach our children right from wrong and set the example. And control what you can AT HOME until they get of age......and THEN still be there for them in their lifes struggles to help. We all struggle and want the best for our kids......but it takes effort to do that.

  • Posted By: Bettie86 @ 11/16/2007 12:24:32 PM

    YOU CANNOT BLAME SOCIETY, THAT IS LIKE BLAMING BUGS BUNNY AND TOM AND JERRY. WE EACH CHOOSE ARE OWN ACTIONS WE ARE IN CONTROL OF OURSELVES NO ONE ELSE... AGAIN, I PRAY FOR THE VICTIM AND HER FAMILY!!!!!

  • Posted By: geo'07 @ 11/16/2007 12:19:47 PM

    we are still breathing, why? why is it that this young girl isn't. it could have nothing to do with us, right? i cannot honestly say this. we are to blame, we did this, our society is the culprit and whether or not we want to look at it, it is a part of each and every one of us. look around... what do you see, come on, we see the evil and the ignorance.. and we allow it to be... why, because we cant be bothered.. but this bothers me and it will get worst.... God Save Us.. all...

    geo'07

  • Posted By: iamjj @ 11/16/2007 12:18:55 PM

    Am I the only one who is reminded of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka? Just like Homolka, she had absolutely no indications of rule breaking (other than minor slaps on the wrists) prior to extreme acts. I have a feeling that despite her villification, that it's not just Knox, but her combination with Sollecito that brought this about. For those who don't know Bernardo and Homolka were the "Ken and Barbie" serial killers in Canada in the early 1990s. I have no doubt that if they hadn't been caught after the death of Kercher, Knox and Sollecito would have repeated this ritual, perhaps escalating (I suppose that's possible). To what extent, if any, Lumumba is involved and why, I don't know. What I'm saying is I don't think that this was imagined solely by Knox herself, nor do I think Sollecito was a puppet on a string helplessly waiting for this vixen to tell him what to do. Men who commit sexually greivous crimes like these are rarely complacent types who do as their girlfriends command, and the same goes for Lumumba, if the evidence shows he was indeed involved. That does not mean that I think Knox is innocent in anyway. She was obviously fully involved in the planning and execution of these crimes and should be punished...and there is definitely something wrong with her. I just saw a paralell in their relationships and thought I would point it out.

  • Posted By: truedirector @ 11/16/2007 12:14:36 PM

    _name: "divorces produce troubled kids" . LOL.. how about America produces troubled kids?

    • Posted By: glorycat @ 11/16/2007 12:18:02 PM

      Please tell me that someone is not this stupid?

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