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I said the problem is rooted in the violence and se \q4-5
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I wrote my comment but you ate it.
I said the problem is rooted in the violence and se \q4-5
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Amazing that this blog thread quickly left the subject and became a Rohrschach test for people's opinions about blacks vs. whites, Europeans vs. Americans, etc. Given the barbarous history behind every group and the omnipresent evidence that every group is still quite capable of barbarisms, maybe that line of argument should just be buried. That said, little about this case strikes me as incomprehensible - a "good", little girl from America (who apparently has some underlying issues) goes abroad, hooks up with a Euro with some peculiar issues of his own, and together they create a murderous synergy in which the African immigrant may or may not have been involved and/or in which he may have been a catalyst (providing the titillation of inter-racial rape). Meanwhile, the British female victim is chosen because she is both near and an outsider, a convenient "prop" with which to act out their disturbing fantasies. When, however, they've had their "fun", they realize that she is now a threat and they kill her to hide their actions but do so in such a way that they cannot help but be implicated. This is a highly "disordered" murder - a spur of the moment crime, likely impelled by personality flaws in the prime participants which will become increasingly clear as the case evolves.
Divorces produce troubled kids.
The media is partly responsible for this trash, with most movies being so violent that "normal" people can't stand it. Our kids are desensitized to violence and rough sex through movies and video games and our economy is such that both parents, if there are two anymore, are gone from home to earn a living so no one is supervising our youth. This is a modern day Lord of the Flies. It's horrid and sad, and perhaps more pervasive than one wants to imagine.
so is she a dork innocent girl or a cold blooded killer? seems like there a lot of random killing stories happening lately...
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I have never seen a black teacher try to sleep with a student. Can we say the same for white women?
please people, take your racial hatred to another forum and discuss/argue it there. It has nothing to do with this story.
Ive never seen a white woman with no teeth beg for crack money, can we say the same for black women?
Actually yes I have seen plenty of white toothless women begging for crack. Where do you live evidently not in a big city huh?
fidora54, if anyone has issues revolving around racism or prejudice, it is certainly you. These types of comments are what keep racism alive and well throughout the world. Congratulations on your intelligent comments.
hm, being a white American woman, I can honestly say that I have never slept with a student...Why think that every white American woman has the same mentality? Oh yet i can tell you about several black woman that have slept with inmates.. Yet that does not mean that every correctional officer that is a female and is black does that!As i stated before - people of every color and race can make bad decisions.. It is what is inside the person - that gives us good morals or bad ones.
Noone FORCES a person to commit a crime. It does NOT matter what color their skin is...whether white, black, yellow, green.....NOR does a crime pick a woman or man to commit it. It takes A WILLING PERSON....to DECIDE to do it. It's a CHOICE! When are people going to STOP trying to play that PITY PARTY CARD....of RACE!! EVERY RACE....is capable of committing crimes. NONE OF US ARE PERFECT!! We can't control anyones judicial system NOR can they control OURS! If you have a BRAIN at all....you'd want WHOEVER committed this horrible crime to be brought to justice! There was a LIFE taken and now there's a family to grieve for her. We should all be grieving for this young woman! If ALL you're worried about IS YOUR PRECIOUS RACE....then obviously you are insecure about it! I don't care if a little green alien from SPACE DID IT.....I'd want them to be brought to justice! And those of you morons who'll write back and say that I believe in litte green men?.....get a life! You know the point I was trying to make..... I don't know of ANY country who has perfect people living in them who are incapable of committing crimes....do you? Whatever person did this....CHOSE to do it. Their gender didn't MAKE them do it.....THEIR SKIN COLOR did not MAKE them do it...... Are you getting the point here? Some people just like to whine and complain and couldn't know right from wrong if it were to walk up to them and slap them across the face....becaue they're just DUMB or simply DON'T CARE!!
I would like to say that I think the Italian government and the media are making this a "case about America". As it has been said before, Knox did not commit this horrendous crime by herself. Her boyfriend and the bar owner were in no way forced to rape and kill an innocent victim and stable men wouldn't have allowed any girl - white, black, american or not- to talk them into it. So why are we ignoring the Italian boyfriend? Apparently only Americans and foreign immigrants commit atrocities or so this story would have you believe. Wake up world - we aren't the bad guys. Every nation has its own issues.
You are correct that they are focusing on Amanda, but I do not think they are doing so to condemn America. I think the focus is on Amanda because she seems so innocent with her blonde hair blue eyes. The fact that she was an honor student, and came to italy to study, and then ended up in the middle of a sexual crime and murder. It is being sensationalized for those reasons.
I strongly urge that this not become an Italian vs. American issue. Or black vs. white.
here here. People should focus on the case and the poor victim, not other unrelated agendas
I find this very sad and sickening not matter what country it was done in...
It is obvious that at times a person is able to do things that no one would expect then to do. It is basically impossible to know the spontanious actions of anybody, even with technology, history, knowledge of that person etc. What we all need to consider is that one must be aware of any situation and judge wether it is safe or not. That ability to know such sercumstances can be learned if someone wants to learn it. If you really want trouble, lets face it, you can find it easily. Life can be fun, safe and healthy if so desired...
It really saddens me to think these types of things go on. Its upsetting ,sickening and frightening...
what the hell does race or national origin have to do with anything? The rapist was italian, his girlfriend was american, the bar owner was italian and the victim was American.
How does this make america look bad? A bunch of freaks tortured and killed another humand being to sexually gratify themselves or at the very least were reckless or negligent in their "game" and inadvertendly killed a participant.
Any discussion of race or origin is stupid and useless to this story
The dead young woman is English, not American. The bar owner is Congolese (sp?) not Italian. He is black and been in italy for 10 years. The Italians are actually being very supportive of him. I do not think he is involved.
Wow. Judging from these comments, as Americans, we MUST become more intellectually curious! Is it possible that, in the year 2007, we are this short-sighted and racist? NO ONE yet knows what happened in this case... PLEASE! Know that race is simply the shell that humans wear. That's it. It's that simple... REALLY. Do not mass generalizations about ANY two people... ANYWHERE. Every last person in this world is completely unique. PERIOD.
Well that was a moronic tirade in itself goner79. The judicial systems and your obvious bias and mistrust against them have nothing to do with this article. The defendants have yet to be tried, so you have no basis to criticize the Italian judicial system, and the fact that this crime did not occur on American soil should omit any reason to call in the American judicial system. The fact is, the media, and I am far from a fan of theirs, posted the information as they have received and perceived it, and until it is before a judge and or jury, it is your right to form your own opinion. It is a horrible thing when a young person loses their life, whether or not it was being lived correctly or not, the fact is everything that person has, and is evergoing to have, has now been taken away from her.
Lazy scags? Black people were stolen from their homes and forced to work for free for 500 years. I beleive they were white the people who did the stealing. And what race has been a participent in every war this planet has had? Always screwing things up and then say "Who me/"The distrubing issue here is the blame on a American not race.Or is she innocent because she is white?
Fidora you need to get your facts straight. The black slaves were already slaves of their own people. They were selling their own people into slavery. Pick up a history book before you start spreading ignorance. oh and you think wars are specific to white people? Hahaha Wow
I'm British and white so I see things coming into this Country and not being raised here, I wanted to point out how hypocritical the American people are towards the black people, they seem to be treated as second class citizens unless they can: play sports, sing, act, represent the USA in the Olympics or show their many God given talents, didn't anyone give any thought as to what you all would have to brag about if it wasn't for the black people representing you.
What, first are you just kidding about them being found guilty if they did it? You should know that the judicial system sucks, yes enven in America. They are in Italy where it's probably three times worse. My point is that even if they weren't guilty, they would still get shafted. It happens in the US all the time. It doesn't seem that the country that was founded twohumdred and forty some odd years ago is working out the way the founding fathers pictured it does it?
I am wondering why you think the justice system in Italy would be worse than here? There are no plea deals in Europe, guilty is guilty, the courts are not tied up with frivolous lawsuits, before you make blanket statements do some research!
TThey probably did do it. And if that is the case they need to burn. What is the deal with people and their exhileration with doing evil ***. It's ridiculous and people need to start having their crazy ass heads checked.
Let's forget about race, a young woman was killed brutally and needlessly, all these evil people involved need to be put away forever, so they don't do it to someone else. If they think they can get away with it, who knows how many more people are in danger that they come in contact with. I just pray that justice is served, if not here, they will eventually answer to someone higher. I feel sorry for them, and I feel sorry for their families. Most of all I wanted to vomit when I read what they did to her, and I believe in an eye for an eye. And regardless who uses the race card young or old, they need to wake up and smell the roses, I truly feel sorry for the people who are prejudice, because they will never be truly happy with themselves nevertheless others, so they need a reality check.
I hate how half the people who comment on these stories are idiots. Don't you have anything better to do with you time than to start a racism war? This is not about race, this is about a brutal murder. And not one of you has mentioned anything about the poor victim. Take your hatred somewhere else, I'm sure there's a forum for that somewhere on the internet...
this case has absolutely nothing to do about race. comments like "The white community in America needs to address the issue of why they're raising daughters without morals." is just plain ignorant. whatever happened to just people/parents raising their children with morals? quit finger-pointing and look deep.
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