Examining PETA’s Prez

« Return to Article

Discuss

Member Comments

  • Posted By: robertkjjj @ 11/17/2007 1:26:43 AM

    PETA is a despicable, evil, and hypocritical organization. It's crazy enough that they demand that all of us not eat any kind of animals. But did you know that they also demand that we not use animals in ANY kind of medical work or research? Did you know that this includes vaccination work and research as well? Did you know that vaccinations and many medications, such as insulin, would simply not EXIST if it were not for medical research and usage of animals? How???s this for hypocrisy: it was discovered a couple years back that a senior VP at PETA was a diabetic, and she was daily taking insulin to survive. Insulin is derived from animals. When confronted about this, and how her work and goals included stopping such usage of animals, and how it could affect diabetics access to insulin, she replied ???Well, I need MY life; I need to be here to help the animals.??? Unbelievable. If more people knew just how truly evil, how completely BAD PETA was, their donations would dry up tomorrow.

    • Posted By: de232 @ 11/18/2007 12:23:53 AM

      I'm sure other people saw the same report as you and I am sure of them still make donations. Your arguments don't make sense- you just seem a little crazy and upset.
      By using the word 'demand' it appears that you fear the organization for some reason... They're not there to shut down the world, they're there to create an awareness that something is wrong. Obviously it works, because there are so many heated arguments/comments about animal rights (from both sides).
      Take it upon yourself to realize that someone is trying to help something that can't help itself.
      For the comments that talk about who is stronger, or who is smarter.. I don't think that it is even debateable.
      By being the smarter animals, it is a wise choice for humans to take care of what they have.. if they need it to survive.
      Some of the things Peta does may seem insane.. but there are people out there that don't listen or pay attention to any body/ anything else (feelings/emotions/needs) unless it is right up in their face.
      Personally, I don't eat meat.. and I have a few pets of my own.
      I do wear make up and dress in products that were made from animals. You don't need to change your entire life just to make a difference.

  • Posted By: kindnesstoall @ 11/17/2007 8:44:42 PM

    The times of idyllic small farms where animals are treated humanely is long gone. Hens are being kept in tiny cages, sows are kept in enclosures only about 2 feet wider than their body (they look like cars parked in a parking lot and so they exist until they are slaughtered), calves are torn from their mother and fed an iron deficient substitute to provide veal and humans can "harvest" the milk that nature intended for the calf.

    What we humans do to "food animals" is outright disgusting and most people would be outraged to find out how exactly these poor creatures are raised and slaughtered. But, ignorance is bliss and as long people don't know and they don't want to know, so they can still demand their cheap meats with a "healthy"conscience.

  • Posted By: kindnesstoall @ 11/17/2007 8:44:07 PM

    Do plants suffer? We know for a fact that animals do! Biology 101: Plans don't have a brain and nervous system and so are incapable of feeling the same degree of suffering as animals.

    @t9900: ....Why is it that humans can't kill and eat animals but other animals can?.... Are you really trying to compare natural predation vs. factory farming and assembly-line mass slaughter?

    No act of kindness, however small it may be, is ever wasted.

  • Posted By: kamerican63 @ 11/17/2007 7:17:11 PM

    Contoversy seems to create alot of hipe for peta, but if that is all they are about then they lose. Being raised on a ranch I got plenty of animal human relationship. Animals were domesticated for helpers and workers. Then someone made a pet out of an animal. We took good care of our animals, because if you didn't you only hurt yourself. People eat meat so we knew that cattle, hogs, chickens and sheep were raised for that purpose, but not only that purpose, sheep have wool that is harvested, chickens lay eggs and have feathers for our use, Hogs have hides for leather and bristles for brushes, cattle hides for leather horns for buttons Milk for our consumption. All of these animals produce manure to fertilize plants and therefore are self sustainable. I like meat, leather shoes, milk for a milkshake, wool cloth, Ilike eggs for breakfast, I keep my powder dry in a powder horn, I use a camel hair paint brush, rooster tail feathers are used in hats, I like bacon with my eggs, and animals and birds provide these. I would like to know if Ms Newkirk wears leather shoes, Eats jello, wears wool garments, has a down pillow, has a leather belt, uses bacon bits on her salad, eats angle food cake, eats lemon meriang pie, uses wood products (bird habitat loss), uses paper, uses electricity (Dams and fish habitat) , and many other animal products or byproducts? I do not care for peta and there attitude nor Ms Newkirk's convictions on the human race. thanks for the opportunity to express my thoughts

    • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/17/2007 7:46:35 PM

      No disrespect, but I really think you should do a little more research on the victories PETA has accomplished on behalf of animals, the better treatment they have achieved for animals in slaugter houses, in labs, in entertainment, etc. They don't lose. They do everything, right down to supplying dog houses for dogs who are left outside by their owners in the winter so they are kept warm against the elements. Just because you use all those things from animals doesn't make it right. People used to own slaves and think that was acceptable too. We all have re-evalulate how we can be better, compassionate people, be kind to other beings and treat our planet with respect - not just blindly follow along in this world because stuff was acceptable before. Where would we be if great leaders thought that way? I don't expect everyone will become vegetarian or vegan but at the very least, people can demand better treatment of the animals they eat. How is that wrong? We as consumers have that reponsiblilty. I'm not perfect - I'm sure many vegans would have a problem with me because I'm only vegetarian. The point is that it is a process for everyone. And to answer your question, Ingrid is very strict on those things, she does not wear leather, or any of the other things you mentioned. But even people who are involved in the animal rights movement, some wear leather. People learn as they go along. It starts with eliminating things like fur which is strictly for vanity and those poor animals are electrocuted up their butts and strangled. Then you start eliminating more and more. I don't wear leather, wool, etc. and haven't for 15 years. It's not hard to be compassionate. All I ask is people start educating themselves on the suffering behind the food and products they consume..ask questions...demand changes.

  • Posted By: Elaine Hendrix @ 11/17/2007 1:12:23 PM

    i do not always agree with Peta's beliefs or actions, however, whether you are for them or against them I think it is undeniable that agruing for the inhumane treatment of animals is simply not okay. Violence is violence - It doens't matter whether it is taken against children, women, races, men or animals. There will be no peace until there is total peace. Peta doesn't dictate that. Humanity dictates that.

    • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/17/2007 4:06:24 PM

      I completely agree with you Elaine and that's the beauty of it, we don't always have to agree. People have many varying views on how animal welfare should be handled - I'm just happy that people are concerned about it. You're right about peace. Groups like PETA creat controversy and that is good, it puts the spotlight on the issues. I wouldn't have wanted anything to do with Michael Vick for instance, but they got him to enroll in animal empathy classes. They think outside the box.

  • Posted By: Blipvert23 @ 11/17/2007 3:17:15 AM

    I sincerely hope that Diannari was NOT referring to myself...However if it was...I share the company for 4 cats and a big ol' lab, and am in complete control of my faculties! I am not "evil" as you put it...and you are RIGHT...the corn, soy beans, wool, grass and tomatoes DON'T have a voice...as you ripped them from the throat of the plant without their permission!! Just for the record...Diannari...I am Blissfully married and have REAL WORLD THINGS to worry about...not throwing some namby, pamby, whiney-baby fit about where my food comes from...or in what form...be it meat or slaughtered vegetables.

    • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/17/2007 3:58:23 PM

      Give yourself a big ol' pat on the back for having no conscience. You should be proud. Your ignorance would almost be amusing if it weren't for the fact that it's scary knowing there are actually people out there like you....well, I guess that's how Bush got elected.

  • Posted By: Elaine Hendrix @ 11/17/2007 1:08:26 PM

    I do not always agree with Peta's beliefs or actions, however, whether you are for them or against them, I think it's undeniable to argue that harming animals is NOT okay. Violence is violence. Therefore its not okay to demonstrate violence on children, women, races, men or animals. There is no peace until there is total peace.

  • Posted By: No2Peta @ 11/17/2007 12:20:42 PM

    Why people listen to that Nazi Ingrid is beyond me.She like Peta are out only to misinform and brain wash people and their good nature.Thats it.She gets rich while Peta kills thousands of animals a yrs for no reason what so ever then has the nerve to turn around and harrasse meat eaters and animal farmers trying to make a living and support their families.Plus I've yet to see one single credible video or statistic by Peta.

  • Posted By: CarolFromIL @ 11/17/2007 11:52:50 AM

    I didn't see one example of Newkirk "demand" people not care for other issues. Pets and animals DO get abused and treated inhumanely, therefore Ms. Newkirk and others who try to bring it out into the open and stop it are not wrong or "crazy"..

  • Posted By: shayes @ 11/17/2007 8:37:37 AM

    Diannnari wants to violate human rights instead of using animals for medical testing.
    How is that "equal" treatment?

  • Posted By: robertkjjj @ 11/17/2007 1:39:37 AM

    Newkirk is a raving lunatic wh*ore, and PETA members are crazy and mentally disturbed. Not to mention extraordinarily naive, misinformed, and flat out evil. This is a bad, bad, BAD cult folks. They have been exposed again and again for the frauds and liars they are. They do not help animals; in fact, they kill all animals they pretend to save. They want your kids to go unvaccinated. They want you to stop even eating fish. Are they insane? They think rats and mice are more important than humans. This is a SCUM organization.

    • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/17/2007 2:43:25 AM

      Yeah because caring for beings that don't have a voice is so evil - right up there with helping children. I think it's clear who the evil, mentally disturbed one is. I feel sorry for dark, angry people like you. You probably never were blessed by the love of an animal or any human for that matter.

  • Posted By: clarksonrollins@sbcglobal.net @ 11/16/2007 11:15:18 PM

    I know exacatly where my meat comes from each and every night, so do my children. We own and run a sustaniable ranch in Montana. For all I care Ms Newkirk can starve to death along with the rest of everyone else. When the dust settles my children and I will still be out here killing, cutting up and cooking tender meat and wearing fur coats. Fat and happy in Big Sky Country !!!

    • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/17/2007 2:38:44 AM

      clarksonrollins@sbcglobal.net - yes you are exactly the kind of gluttonous slobs that are destroying the planet while stuffing your own faces and your selfish comments prove it. Can???t wait to see how your kids turn out with that kind of example.

  • Posted By: tsota @ 11/17/2007 1:27:37 AM

    From the last paragraph of the article. "But no one has the right to impose his or her opinion of what's important on others. When people start trying to force their will on other creatures, whether man, fish or fowl, Newkirk's philosophy of humanity is affirmed anew." So by smearing paint in a store where people are attempting to make a living, destroying private property, thats NOT imposing opinion or will on other people. Pull your head out, read your own article before you print it.

  • Posted By: robertkjjj @ 11/17/2007 1:22:33 AM

    PETA is a despicable, evil, and hypocritical organization. It's crazy enough that they demand that all of us not eat any kind of animals. But did you know that they also demand that we not use animals in ANY kind of medical work or research? Did you know that this includes vaccination work and research as well? Did you know that vaccinations and many medications, such as insulin, would simply not EXIST if it were not for medical research and usage of animals? How???s this for hypocrisy: it was discovered a couple years back that a senior VP at PETA was a diabetic, and she was daily taking insulin to survive. Insulin is derived from animals. When confronted about this, and how her work and goals included stopping such usage of animals, and how it could affect diabetics access to insulin, she replied ???Well, I need MY life; I need to be here to help the animals.??? Unbelievable. If more people knew just how truly evil, how completely BAD PETA was, their donations would dry up tomorrow.

  • Posted By: swm1167 @ 11/16/2007 11:52:12 PM

    Animals are on this planet for our use, not abuse. What everyone needs to remember is the difference between "pets" and "livestock". Slaughter houses usually try to kill the animals as fast and painlessly as possible, and most will not put up with employees abusing them before the kill. It is saddening to hear that this kind of thing still takes place. Horses have to be broken before they can ridden. A dog has to be trained with some form of disipline and/or reward program. A cat is subjected to captivity and forced to crap in a box. Is this abuse? These are but a few examples of what I beleive are rational opinions of a meat eating, leather jacket wearing, fisherman that is still trying to get over having to put a dog down last week.

  • Posted By: Ahlyssah @ 11/16/2007 11:49:38 PM

    I wonder about the intelligence of Ms. Newkirk sometimes. I have seen and read a number of statements made by her, and something that continues to come up is that animals should not be killed for food. "Dolphin-safe tuna is not enough; we want tuna-safe tuna." All well and fine for human beings who can take supplements for their dietary needs (assuming that they can afford them and live in an area with a well-stocked GNC, of course).

    But what about the ANIMALS that eat meat? Face it: cats and dogs are carnivores. They can eat vegitable matter, but their bodies are designed to deal with a diet that is mostly animal protein. Plant protein, like soy or nuts, doesn't digest the way it should. They need meat to survive, or else they expire from malnutrition. I'm sorry, I love animals and want to put an end to abuse and needless suffering, but I will be damned before I let my cats and dogs die slow, painful deaths just so PETA and the ALF can feel like they are doing something good in the world.

  • Posted By: Blipvert23 @ 11/16/2007 11:14:26 PM

    MURDER IS MURDER...pure and simple...and can anyone PROVE that plants DON'T feel? Just because we humans can not understand their "language" doesn't mean it does not exist...time to pull your head out Diannari and see that MURDER IS MURDER...regardless if a plant can grow anything back, yet another excuse to justify PETA'S actions...how sad...PS: I won nothing for the PETA crowd...apparently no one understands ludicrous sarcasm anymore....making the absurd understandable to people who are so one-track minded and wrapped up in themselves that they "take to the streets" and destroy other people's property...BOYCOTT if you like...but do not judge...as you are NOT worthy and left WANTING!!

  • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/16/2007 11:05:19 PM

    You've got to be joking Blipvert23...if that's all you have then you pretty much won it for the PETA folks. That is so pathetic it doesn't event deserve a response but I'll give you one anyway - show me a cow that grows his or her limb back after it's chopped off (as in the way plants do) then maybe you'd have a case. Plants are not animals - we as humans fall under the category of animals. The question is if they can suffer and animals suffer and feel pain and emotion as WE do. Humans are the stupid ones, destroying our planet and each other.

  • Posted By: saveagrey @ 11/16/2007 10:59:29 PM

    Thousands of greyhounds are abused and killed every year. Thousands of puppies and young greyhounds are killed before they ever make it to race tracks. END GREYHOUND RACING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: saveagrey @ 11/16/2007 10:55:42 PM

    PETA and the entire world need to take a look at the abuse and death of thousands of greyhounds every year. Greyhounds lost at the tracks, they usually die. Thousands of puppies and young greyhounds and killed before they ever make it to race tracks! END GREYHOUND RACING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply

Report Abuse

Enter comments if any for reporting abuse