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  • Posted By: Blipvert23 @ 11/16/2007 10:48:21 PM

    PETA = People Eating Tender Animals...Why is it justifiably "moral" (for the PRO-PETA people) to KILL an innocent ear of corn, pea pod, or stalk of grain for that matter...yet condemn people who eat meat?!

    PRO-PETAers claim that there is "Inhumane" treatment of the animals while alive and hold protests over the use of animals for food or clothing...yet fail to understand that dead is DEAD...just like the KASHI (Seven Grains on a Mission) that THEY eat, the soy beans and peanuts that are HORRIBLY ROASTED to death under high temperatures just so THEY may have a meat free snack (and to justify their "non-violence" toward living beings), or even the GRASS that THEY grossly decapitate (to have a "nice" looking lawn of course) with their lawnmowers...meanwhile condemning those of us who LOVE a nice Medium-Rare Prime Rib...MMMMM...delicious...MURDER IS MURDER any way you slice it!

    I saw a picture of a PRO-PETA demonstration which showed naked women wrapped in cellophane, much in the same fashion as any cut of meat you would find in a grocery store. Cellophane (which is: A thin, flexible, transparent cellulose material made from WOOD PULP and used as a moistureproof wrapping, THUS - Killing a TREE) laying on a styrofoam tray! (Can anyone say BENZINE?)

    How cynically enterprising of them...meaning that it's "OK" to KILL the environment with noxious fumes and a long decomposition time for the styrofoam in a landfill...but "Don't dare hurt an animal".

    So the next time you PRO-PETAers think that it's so horrible to eat the meat that is put there for our consumption think about this...If you are truly AGAINST cruelty towards animals...you would GIVE UP your Doc Martins (leatherand rubber made from oil), Wool clothing (Shearing Sheep against their will), and cotton fabric (mutilating and stripping the cotton plant of it's fruit against it's will), as well as ANYTHING that is PLASTIC (as the OIL used to make plastic came from animals) OR...just mind your own business and stop whining!

  • Posted By: CMark @ 11/16/2007 10:48:10 PM

    Mr. Alston tries to be neutral about Ms. Newkirk, but the final sentence in the article says it all--Ms. Newkirk's views are valid. Ms. Newkirk is a total nut case who would prefer that the human race was wiped off the face of the earth so that the animals could live in peace.

  • Posted By: Sheepskin @ 11/16/2007 10:45:10 PM

    "He knows he was lucky I didn't kill him," she says.

    And we all know how much Ingrid loves to kill. She'd rather see an animal dead than owned.

  • Posted By: MartyCharette @ 11/16/2007 10:44:43 PM

    Is that all you got... Peta euthanizes animals... Sheesh, old news...

  • Posted By: Blipvert23 @ 11/16/2007 10:42:46 PM

    PETA = People Eating Tender Animals...Why is it justifiably "moral" (for the PRO-PETA people) to KILL an innocent ear of corn, pea pod, or stalk of grain for that matter...yet condemn people who eat meat?!

    PRO-PETAers claim that there is "Inhumane" treatment of the animals while alive and hold protests over the use of animals for food or clothing...yet fail to understand that dead is DEAD...just like the KASHI (Seven Grains on a Mission) that THEY eat, the soy beans and peanuts that are HORRIBLY ROASTED to death under high temperatures just so THEY may have a meat free snack (and to justify their "non-violence" toward living beings), or even the GRASS that THEY grossly decapitate (to have a "nice" looking lawn of course) with their lawnmowers...meanwhile condemning those of us who LOVE a nice Medium-Rare Prime Rib...MMMMM...delicious...MURDER IS MURDER any way you slice it!

    I saw a picture of a PRO-PETA demonstration which showed naked women wrapped in cellophane, much in the same fashion as any cut of meat you would find in a grocery store. Cellophane (which is: A thin, flexible, transparent cellulose material made from WOOD PULP and used as a moistureproof wrapping, THUS - Killing a TREE) laying on a styrofoam tray! (Can anyone say BENZINE?)

    How cynically enterprising of them...meaning that it's "OK" to KILL the environment with noxious fumes and a long decomposition time for the styrofoam in a landfill...but "Don't dare hurt an animal".

    So the next time you PRO-PETAers think that it's so horrible to eat the meat that is put there for our consumption think about this...If you are truly AGAINST cruelty towards animals...you would GIVE UP your Doc Martins (leatherand rubber made from oil), Wool clothing (Shearing Sheep against their will), and cotton fabric (mutilating and stripping the cotton plant of it's fruit against it's will), as well as ANYTHING that is PLASTIC (as the OIL used to make plastic came from animals) OR...just mind your own business and stop whining!
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  • Posted By: Sheepskin @ 11/16/2007 10:39:21 PM

    "He knows he was lucky I didn't kill him," she says.

    And of course, we all know how much Ingrid loves to kill.

  • Posted By: VeganJill @ 11/16/2007 10:32:11 PM

    Was it Albert Schweitzer or Gandhi who said "A Society can be judged by the way it treats its animals." A compassionate lifestyle is compassionate; it isn't an either/or split between animal and human animal issues. I am able to contribute my volunteer time and financial resources to both animal and human issues. Newkirk is a passionate extremist and serves a positive purpose; without extremists the media would ignore causes. Bless you all, and a happy UN-turkey day (poultry are so abused) to all.

  • Posted By: dogteacher @ 11/16/2007 10:21:30 PM

    Interesting how people ignore the fact that PETA's "adoption" headquarters in Norfolk kills above 95% of the animals they promise to find homes for while area humane societies are able to place 50% plus of their animals. Also how PETA employees collected adoptable animals from rural NC shelters, supposedly to take to the adoption center, then killed the animals as soon as they got them safely in their truck and dumped the bodies in dumpsters behind a shopping center. Why? Newkirk and friends do not believe in pet ownership. They considered animals better off dead. This is animal rights??? Give to better causes, such as your local humane societies and spcas.

  • Posted By: mikejoz @ 11/16/2007 10:08:42 PM

    There is no chance that Newkirk will trivialize PETA as she will always have an abundance of young mindless duped recruits who join the organization because they think it's about protecting animals. Their time would have been better served volunteering for "quieter" organizations like the Humane Society which does more for animals and certainly has a better record. Bottom line is PETA is an organization to promote PETA not animal rights.

  • Posted By: mikejoz @ 11/16/2007 10:08:40 PM

    There is no chance that Newkirk will trivialize PETA as she will always have an abundance of young mindless duped recruits who join the organization because they think it's about protecting animals. Their time would have been better served volunteering for "quieter" organizations like the Humane Society which does more for animals and certainly has a better record. Bottom line is PETA is an organization to promote PETA not animal rights.

  • Posted By: cevans68 @ 11/16/2007 10:06:33 PM

    Animal suffering is not sexy, and seldom covered in the media as it should. PETA uses shocking tactics to draw attention to the plight of animals, and I support them financally because they do trigger real change in the treatment of those who can not speak for themselfes.

  • Posted By: mikejoz @ 11/16/2007 10:06:19 PM

    There is no chance that Newkirk will trivialize PETA as she will always have an abundance of young mindless duped recruits who join the organization because they think it's about protecting animals. Their time would have been better served volunteering for "quieter" organizations like the Humane Society which does more for animals and certainly has a better record. Bottom line is PETA is an organization to promote PETA not animal rights.

  • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/16/2007 10:06:09 PM

    Why is it when people who attack others who are trying to do good, they always say "they don't do this, they don't do that" - it is ridiculous. I ask what those people have done. If it weren't for PETA, our society wouldn't know anything about the suffering of factory farm animals, animals for entertainment and for testing. I'll tell you what's "wacko" - taking a beautiful creature out of the wild, breaking its will and putting it in a pair of roller skates or making it dance for the entertainment enjoyment of a bunch of ignorant fcks. I don't know what people are smoking when they attack PETA. It takes an amazing amount of dedication to go undercover in a factory farm or testing facility and watching those animals be tortured to death and having to refrain from screaming out at the insanity of it all! I've seen the countless videos of cows hanging upside down by one leg, having their throat slit with their trachea hanging out writhing around in agony. I'd never be able to stomach it. I'd be trying to save them all, calling the cops, etc. PETA workers all have to remind themselves constantly of the bigger picture of how to help these animals, that yes these ones are suffering but if they can help it, it won't be in vein. I don't care who anyone is - that deserves to be honored. Every group does what they can, none of them can do it all and it???s unfair to crucify them for not. Do you realize how overwhelming widespread the suffering of animals is and how hard it is to fight the fight every day? I am happy there is a strong group out there helping animals on the front lines. Can they do it all? Of course not and show me a group that can. PETA certainly has done more than most.

  • Posted By: theeleven111 @ 11/16/2007 10:03:57 PM

    Want to help stop needless killing of animals? check out http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

  • Posted By: Kaelinda @ 11/16/2007 6:30:19 PM

    PETA does not rescue animals for the purpose of rehoming them and making life better for them. PETA employees were caught euthanizing dogs they had picked up for rehoming, and then dumping their bodies in a dumpster. PETA has one agenda and one agenda only (this is from their website - you can find it in the source code, in one of the meta tags at the top of the code): " PETA's animal rights campaigns include ending fur and leather use meat and dairy consumption fishing hunting trapping factory farming circuses bull fighting rodeos and animal experimentation" PETA also campaigns to eliminate human ownership of animals, including dogs, cats, birds, fish, gerbils, cattle, horses, sheep, goats, and all others.

    • Posted By: ifgq423 @ 11/16/2007 9:54:04 PM

      What's your point. Everything in this list is evil.

  • Posted By: ohana1 @ 11/16/2007 9:49:18 PM

    There are no facets of life in which we have to "depend" on the subjugation and exploitation of animals, any more than there are facets of life that we have to "depend" on the subjugation and exploitation of humans. There are facets of life we "choose" to depend on subjugation and exploitation of other beings because it serves someone's purpose.

  • Posted By: ifgq423 @ 11/16/2007 9:48:31 PM

    I don't like the tag line a rat is a pig is a child. But I won't harm a rat or eat a pig because they're mammals just like us who nurse their young. I don't care how much you deny it but animals have feeling, which is what I've learnt from my dogs. They have a huge range of emotion/psychology from jealousy to trust and love. The only emotion they lack is cruelty. Carnivores always go for fast kill before they eat. But we eat with cruelty from the way we raise them in factory farm and applie cruel animal test for cosmetics. Animals rock on my book because they're as close to angels as you get.

  • Posted By: ohana1 @ 11/16/2007 9:48:25 PM

    There are no facets of life in which we have to "depend" on the subjugation and exploitation of animals, any more than there are facets of life that we have to "depend" on the subjugation and exploitation of humans. There are facets of life we "choose" to depend on subjugation and exploitation of other beings because it serves someone's purpose.

  • Posted By: Tiredoldman @ 11/16/2007 9:19:17 PM

    How about PETAs statement that a rat is a pig as is child?
    i really liked how some PETA idiots slimed Steve Erwin after he died saying that the animials of the world were better off with out him. I have one question for these wackos, how much land has PETA bought and set aside for the future of wild animials? The answer is zero. Peta is a loud mouth orginization that give all real animial care groups a bad name

  • Posted By: Diannari @ 11/16/2007 7:38:11 PM

    Kaelinda, I have been a member of PETA for 15 years. They are not trying to eliminate being guardians to animals. Regarding their campaigns, factory farming, circuses, bull fighting, etc. ??? they should be eliminated. Are you that self-involved that you think you deserve to have these things at a cost of the suffering of other living beings? Gandhi said it best - a society's moral progress is best judged by its treatment of animals. I am not foolish enough to think humans will stop being selfish and allow the ban of meat and leather but society should at least examine how these animals suffer in the process and push to limit the suffering as much as possible. I applaud Ingrid - she is an amazing human being and I am sick of the argument that people should care more for other people - people are corrupt, dishonest and selfish. Show me a dog, a pig or goat that you can say the same about. Animals are selfless, are capable of unconditional love and save human lives all the time. The same week those dolphins were slaughtered mercessly in Japan, a dolphin saved a surfer from a shark. It's disgusting how we treat animals in this world. And how about this, if we were all vegetarian, there would be no such thing as third world starvation. We destroy the land to breed more animals to eat when we could be feeding other countries. If you care so much about humans, think about being selfless so the starving can be fed. Think about the earth we are passing onto our kids and their kids. It???s destroyed by factory farming and the resulting fossil fuel pollution. Think about the kids and how there will be no water for them. Do some research about how much waste is produced by the meat industry. The caring for human beings and animals is connected. You can???t truly have one without the other. Respect for all life is the answer.

    • Posted By: ice_empress @ 11/16/2007 9:18:47 PM

      Amen, sister!!!!

      PETA has done a lot of good for animals over the last few decades and I hope they will continue. People get upset with PETA, but it's more the underlying: "Kill the messanger" attitude. Before getting upset with PETA, people should really analyze their feelings and place the anger where it belongs....at breeders and puppy mills that produce an overpopulation of dogs and cats that have to be euthanized by the millions at shelters every year. At the general public, that continues to demand cheap meats. At people that still buy fur coats.

      And yes, before anyone tells me how to spend my time or tries to dictate which organization is worth of my donation, I sure hope that "you" put YOUR efforts and finances toward a cause YOU feel worth supporting. If anyone is supporting human rights, advocating for children or help to fight domestic violence.....more power to them. But don't tell me what cause is more important, because I know what's important to me.

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