Fireproofed—and Firing Away

Hillary Clinton's 'asbestos' wards off her rivals' flames.

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  • Posted By: crazyhorse165 @ 01/16/2008 12:57:02 PM

    I think Mrs. Clinton would make a great president I can,t MrObama in that kind of leadership He seem to all talk and no action Its hight time that a change be made in Wash. and I think Mrs clinton can make that change

  • Posted By: Northcarolinian @ 01/16/2008 9:21:45 AM

    Hillary says that she is a doer and Obama is a dreamer (= visionary). As in successful corporations, the President needs to be a visionary and his staff, including the Vice-President, should achieve the goals the President has set. I hope under the new leadership of Obama as the President and Clinton as the Vice-President our country will become the respected world leader once again.

  • Posted By: wakeupamerica @ 12/13/2007 3:38:03 PM

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  • Posted By: Nattie75 @ 12/02/2007 3:36:56 AM

    Grow up and stop discussing what your corporate overlords say you should discuss (I know that you are so involved in this ridiculousness that you may be too myopic to understand this), and just be yourself. People may go along with what you say if you do this. (I understand, however, that, due to this incredibly stupidly superficial world, what I say now will may no difference to you.) Such, as they say, is life. And the world is losing its erudition day by day...

  • Posted By: aristotle @ 11/16/2007 1:29:50 PM

    I wonder how many Republican operatives are staked out on the web seaching for every opportunity to "Comment" on a political story with anti-Hilary bile and venom! It's gotten ridiculous how they all tend to sound alike, like they are following someone's "talking points" of the day. I believe most Americans who view these words can separate the chicken salad from the chicken poop as to the real authors of these so-called political "comments". As long as there are Republicans, we will have their dirty tricks to put up with....

    • Posted By: sparks08 @ 11/16/2007 1:38:58 PM

      Um, Im not republican--can't stand Bush and curse his name everyday the gas prices rise because I know his pockets are lined thick with money his took at our expense. As far as H.Clinton goes I distrust her because I think she too has too many special interests helping her today that she will have to repay tomorrow at the expense of the everyday American. There's no bile nor venom here just an honest opinion of someone who is scared to death to think of another president as bad as the one we've got!

      • Posted By: aristotle @ 11/16/2007 1:57:32 PM

        Wow! You gotta be joking! It is impossible for Hilary Clinton to be a president "as bad as the one we've got"! Take your blinders off man--there isn't any Big Oil who have her in its pocket, there isn't any Big Insurance who have her wrapped up, there isn't any NRA who will write legislation in her oval office, there isn't any Halliburton who will make there war profits on her watch, there aren't any Fat Cats who depend on her to give them more tax cuts...on and on...ad infinitum with the differences between her and bush. Wow!

        • Posted By: ublair @ 11/28/2007 11:35:01 AM

          I find it disgusting that the word "whore" is being used to describe this woman. This really need to stop. Is this what you are going call your daughters if they have ambitions to become somebody. This is shameful that in america where you ecourage your daughters to be all they can be we turn around and call them names because they aspire to be someone. You should be ashamed.

        • Posted By: sparks08 @ 11/16/2007 2:50:07 PM

          Gee, let me count the ways they are different...not too many. I just went to a site called whitehouse4sale.org and it lists all the money she has took from lobbyists so that she can hopefully become the next American president. She's not alone...but i did notice that a few like Kucinich have not received any lobbyists money...why not give them a chance.

          • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/16/2007 8:37:08 PM

            Big corporation money? With your implied accusations that she is somehow in the pocket of big corporations, please name just 1 piece of legislation (and yes all you Fox Noise sheep, she has authored, sponsored, or co-sponsored nearly 100 pieces of legislation) that she has signed onto that supports big corporations over working men and women!! The same old baseless accusations from the right often repeated by edwards and obama how she takes money from federal lobbyists and PACs, yet when one examines their record, you will find they take money from state lobbyists and PACs...big difference, huh? Wake up and realize that it takes money to run a campaign: staff, travel and hotels, television and radio airtime, mailings and newspaper ads, etc., etc. That is why people like Ron Paul andDennis Kucinich aren't noticed in the campaign. They have raised maybe $5 million and there is no way you can possibly become a viable candidate and get your message out with that amount of money. There is absolutely nothing wrong wioth accepting donations to finance a campaign, If and when you can prove that this financing has influenced a candidates vote or position on an issue, then you have a legitimate arguement. Until then, wake up and join the real world.

            • Posted By: sparks08 @ 11/16/2007 9:45:43 PM

              I would rather not join the "real world" most have accepted--I'd rather change it for the better of us all. Wouldn't alot of people?

          • Posted By: aristotle @ 11/16/2007 2:59:36 PM

            LOL!! Now I know for sure you are a Republican plant....Go take your wing-nut propaganda and play your dirty tricks somewhere else. P-tooey!

            • Posted By: kool_baby777 @ 11/16/2007 4:29:20 PM

              While you are at it, toss your ignorant "team" mentality aside and look at where ALL OF RON PAUL'S MONEY HAS COME FROM. He has never taken part in the congress pension plan, He has never voted to increase his pay. They call him Dr. No because he CANNOT BE BOUGHT. For God's sake he has a sign on his desk that reads "DON'T STEAL. THE GOVERNMENT HATES COMPETITION". (Unlike your hero Hillary who votes to rob us blind!)

            • Posted By: sparks08 @ 11/16/2007 3:16:04 PM

              You sure sound like you want Clinton to be president and you are sure you state that I am a Republican plant....maybe you should think again...hey tell me where info can be found on all campaign money--tell me and provide proof that what I read was false...tell me one thing I have said that has been pro-republican...I just don't think Hillary Clinton will be good for this country. I am open minded tell me how I am wrong, provide resources for me to look up, don't just LOL because I am not on board with Clinton. Again, I want to know what is soooo wrong with Kucinich.. I am guessing you are a democrat you must know about him...why not him?

      • Posted By: kool_baby777 @ 11/16/2007 4:25:42 PM

        Here's an idea, go read the BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
        Hillary and the rest of the democrats (Kucinich not so sure) trample on it like it is a piece of garbage!!!!
        This includes Bush and his war gang, they are FAR WORSE than any nightmare we could ever have imagined. Am I angry? Let me tell you something. I am mad as h e l l with what our CORRUPT politicians have done to this country and I am NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE. Apparently, neither are the "true" patriots in this country. Ron Paul offers what we as a nation are STARVING for. (And he means it!) Once his message gets out (see USA today on Nov 20th/21st) the nation will FEAST on the opportunity to grab hold of our CHANCE to get our nation BACK!!!! And no HIllary, you and your self serving w h o r e self can get out because you aren't part of that plan!

    • Posted By: stentoner @ 11/16/2007 4:30:58 PM

      Hey Aristotle, feeling paranoid? Touting the "vast right-wing conspiracy" idea? Find blaming others irresistable when sentient beings act and think independently? Having difficulty articulating points of view without resorting to inflammatory language? Then the Communist Party of America may have some work you can do.

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  • Posted By: bonas50 @ 11/21/2007 11:06:51 AM

    Well , I see Oprah is coming out for Obama. Why doesn't that surprise me... If he wasn't Black wouldn't she be for Clinton ? I mean , Clinton is right up her alley... Well , maybe Sharpton or Jackson , can let us know the answer ..... I mean Clinton is another Hitler, and I personally don't know anyone who would voter for her, but Obam is an unknown substance.... Where has he been ? What has he done ? And what is his strong suit except for a few flowery speeches... C'mon Oprah, open up and set the record straight. I'll tell you what, you tell me you are voting for him because he is black, and I'll tell you that I'm not voting for him for the same reason.

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  • Posted By: Braes @ 11/19/2007 3:27:20 PM

    Geo Washington warned us about partisansip and sectionalism. I think He has been well borne out across 200 years of Presidential Elections. John Adams our 2nd had opposing editors and papers shut down and jailed for sedition, and the Election of Jefferson to replace him was fruaght with Images of French Guillotines and revolution. Lincoln was referred to in cartoons as an Ape.
    None of these Debates are debates. They are stage managed, handled and packaged for replay. These are moderated forums. Joe Biden, (I am a Hillary Supporter btw...) is usually the smartest character in the pack and hasn't a prayer. Joe isn't PC either. He tends to blurt. Yet there are truths in him, in each blurt.
    I'd suggest one go read W.J Bryan's Cross of Gold speech, and decide what being a Democrat means. Other than isolatng one candidate for 60 minutes of time on a Sunday show, there is very little we can do to get depth. These moderated forums are designed by and for the sound-bite.

  • Posted By: AlwaysforHillary @ 11/16/2007 12:20:29 PM

    Hillary not onlly showed what a TRUE LEADER she is, but she proved how tough she is and she is not going to be a doormat for her wimpy male chavenistic rivals!!! I am so proud of my candidate and I know she will make it to the White House and be the best president this country has ever had!!!!

    Also, I LOVED when Hillary was cheered and Obama and Edwards were BOOED!!! Their mudslinging especially these past two weeks received what was coming to them!!!

    • Posted By: D Defoe @ 11/16/2007 12:57:16 PM

      Booed by who? The same folks that planted questions the week before. Come on. That wasn't "the crowd" booing.......

      • Posted By: OscarP @ 11/16/2007 1:53:21 PM

        what if instead of Obama and Edwards, people booed Hillary? well, then everything was so natural, from people who really were honest and defending the "best candidate" but no, now you have the "planted questions excuse" and many other ones, so when are you going to stop finding excuses and admit that Hillary is and will be the best candidate? Is it so hard to break your pride people? I want this country to take a different path, and she is the only one who can truly do it!!

        • Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 3:11:25 PM

          You must be kidding me. A different path? Hillary will be 4 more years of Bill. That's certainly NOT different.

          • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/16/2007 8:08:43 PM

            booed by who? another typical spin from the hillary-haters. she planted the audience! what a joke! each candidadte was given 22 tickets, while the democratic party and unlv gave out the rest.. sure sounded like more than 22 people booing! and on the 4 more years of bill: tell me why you wouldn't want record surpluses, balanced budgets, record jobs creations, a president that was able to work with a republican congress to get things done, , record low unemployment, record consumer confidence, unparelleled stature and respect in the world,100,000 more police to keep our streets safe, record low crime figures, and on and on. The accomplishments of the Clinton administration were unmatched by any president. But I guess you would like 8 more years of unjustified war, destruction of civil liberties, hatred from the rest of the world, record jobs los, record factory closings, record bankruptcies and home foreclosures, and the list goes on. For those that say she has acclomplished nothing in the senate, I invite you to check the facts instead of repeating a lie from other candidates and Fox Noise. If you did, you'd find that she authored, sponsored, or co-sponsored nearly 100 pieces of meaningful legislation. For those that follow the Edwards lies about her being owned by the "big corporations, I defy you to find even 1 piece of that legislative record where she supported a corporation over working men and women! If you actually did a little independant fact checking, instead of repeating the falsehoods and fear-and-smear tactics from the Karl Rove playbook, you would find that not only is she very accomplished in her job, but also that she IS the nost qualified candidate to move this country forward. Please take the ring out of your nose, by which you are being led around and check the facts by yourself, I'm sure you will sing a different tune.

            • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/19/2007 4:37:17 AM

              Oh yeah. On the planted question thing, the question was"what do you think about global warming and what will you do about it?" WOW! Having that question planted sure was a real devious way to swing all the voters to her side! HAHA! Keep grasping at straws and maybe if you can grab enough of them you'll be able to build yourself a nice little commune where you can all go and talk about the politics of hope while you spew your hatred towards others.

  • Posted By: jsww08 @ 11/16/2007 4:41:35 PM

    Hillary--what a perfect prefab product. Does she ever have a genuine or spontaneous thought or reply?
    So little substance but lots of form. I wonder, does Hillary even know what she stands for besides getting elected?

    • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/19/2007 4:19:41 AM

      Prefab? Genuine or sptaneous reply? I don't know if you understand the idea of a debate, but it is to do your homework and study all the issues and to have your arguements ready so you are able to respond. You call it prefab, I call it being prepared. And I'll take having my president prepared for everything that the world has to throw at her so she can deal with it in a deliberate and knowledgable way, over having a president that knows nothing about the issues and flies by the seat of his pants, any day of the week. Maybe if you were as prepared as Hillary, you would have studied to see what a debate is supposed to be all about, instead of trying to grasp at straws to try and attack her with.

  • Posted By: feminazi @ 11/16/2007 7:56:41 PM

    If Hillary ever gets elected, and god bless the world if she does, she will shed her pre fabbed newly found moderate views and go back to her roots of extreme liberalism. Back to the scandals, pardons of hundreds of criminals, stealing white house china, under the table stock plays with 100 fold upside in a day, etc. And if she portrays herself to be so strong and the one candidate to be able to take a principled stand, why the hell did she stay with a liar and an adultorer? The answer is obvious, she will do anything for the power to bankrupt our country via her social liberal agenda and the main way she will pay for this is further gutting of our military just like her hubby did. When she is done we would have open borders, social medicine, there won't be illegal aliens because she will legalize them all and give the $5000 to boot, we will be overcome with radical islamics and have their temples built in the heart of our cities just like London.

    • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/16/2007 9:11:40 PM

      this must be karl rove in drag. fear-and-smear, all fluff, no substance. try putting forth an arguement based on facts, not based on Fox Noise republican playbook.

      • Posted By: dissatisfied New Yorker @ 11/16/2007 9:17:18 PM

        Typical response from a Dem - Ann Richards started this nastiness off for modern day politics. Isn;t it amazing this gentleman slings mud, talks of all fluff, and then proceeds on being exactly what he says he despises - amazing.

        • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/16/2007 9:26:30 PM

          typical response from a republican. attack the messenger, not the message. By the way, as a former New Yorker myself, tell me if Hillary is such a poor leader, why then was she elected twice to the senate, the 2nd time with nearly 70% of the vote and nearly 40% of the repulican vote, winning all but a few repulican held districts? Are you telling me that republicans are easily fooled and got suckered by a democrat? Kind of shoots your arguement full of holes, doesn't it?

          • Posted By: norocksquatterhere @ 11/17/2007 12:44:24 AM

            How was Hillary elected twice to the Senate? I would believe that there were a lot of dead people voting, and of course 'Uncle Teddy" probably has 'something on every other Democrat and the 40% (?) of Republicans you refer to,' so I'm sure she garnered his help! I wouldn't vote for her because she is not only a liar, but she lies to cover up other lies, and on and on! Who can trust a man when you know darn well he's cheating on you? I don't think America will EVER ready for another Clinton administration, at least that is MY PRAYER! China would have ALL our SECRETS, if they don't have them already!

            • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/19/2007 4:11:19 AM

              Please! show me just one politician that doesn't lie and I'll show you fantasyland! If that's all you have to base your decision about voting for her on, is that she lies, then I guess by that logic you will not be voting for anyone, EVER!

          • Posted By: dissatisfied New Yorker @ 11/16/2007 9:32:03 PM

            Somewhat intelligent remark. Nixon was re-elected also- doesn't mean much. I can only tell you why I vote, not some other New Yorkers. At least responding to you, I can speak to someone who's done their homework. She was re-eleceted because of NY city and Albany and not out in the area i live. Thanks for being intelligent, though.

            • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/16/2007 10:13:03 PM

              My friend, I am glad that you can have an intelligent debate without becoming disparaging and i appreciate and respect that. I would like to tell you how I see things. I see new york, especially rural new york(which is most of new york) as definitely in need of attention. I come from binghamton and last i visited, it was a dilapidated city full of people with no hope,homeless and alcholics. But I also realize that this is not the fault ofU.S. senators, but rather the republican controlled state senate and the former 2 term republican governor. Mrs. Clinton on the other hand has done everything she can for the entire state of new york, especially upstate and often to the detriment of the more populated and heavily democratic cities, She has attempted to steer money from the federal budget to many of the hard-pressed areas, even at the expense of ridicule as evidenced by her attempt to get money for the woodstock museum(which would have been a great incestment generating jobs and tourism dollars for the area) she is one individual that has a long list of legislative records that will show just how much she tried to do for these areas. I can understand you not supporting her for president because of party loyalties or stances on national issues with which you may disagree. But I am miffed at why you would not support her as your Senator. She went into the lion's den of the US senate convinced those on the other side of the aisle that she was a principled representative of your state willing to reach compromise to do all she could to benefit your state. People complain that she takes money from big cor[porations, but there is not 1 piece of legislation that she has signed onto that would benefit corporations to the detriment of her constituancy. As I said, she is not perfect, but she is only one individual who has done everything she was elected to do...represent the people of new york state.

    • Posted By: norocksquatterhere @ 11/17/2007 12:35:06 AM

      You have described Hillary to a T! GOD Bless our Country if she is our president! She would be far worse than anyone else! She is a very calculated female, who would lead our country right down the drain!
      As one of the other bloggers said, " Revolution is just a step away and POWER back to the People is needed!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: a new American from north of the border @ 11/17/2007 4:28:26 AM

    I was at the debate. I feel very strongly that Sen Clinton did not "win" the debate at all. Her answers were pat and typical of the very Washington spin doctoring that this and the former administration have been accused of for lo these many years. Former Pres Clinton has achieved an aura since being out of office and the abysmal Bush years have futher shone his plaque. She's riding in on his coat tails while we all forget Whitwater, her careful "management of information" and her arrogrant treatment of staffers and military wives Elect her and we will get more of the same stagnation and distance. Biden has the most experience but he doesn't have enough "jazz" for today's media. And that final question from a UNLV student about diamonds and pearls? Shameful and she (the questioner) should have been called on it. If she represented the 18-24 voting base that Gov Dean boasted the Dems have in their pockets, then America is indeed in trouble. Diamonds and pearls -- we'll have elected a Queen.

    • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/19/2007 4:07:29 AM

      Hey! Pssst! I don't know if you read the latest news, but Whitewater was a land investment that the Clintons lost money on. It may be that you were so far north of the border that they don't have television and newspapers up there, but out of everything that the republican slime machine did to attack the Clintons, the only thing they could nail him on was lying about being unfaithful to his wife. And, I don't know what you consider "stagnation and distance", but if riding Bill's coattails will bring back his record surpluses, record dollar value, record low unemployment numbers, record jobs creation, record worldwide admiration and respect, balanced budgets, greater equalization between the poor and the rich, record low crime numbers, 100,000 new police officers to keep our streets safe, record numbers of legislation enacted - WITH A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS - record low inflation numbers, and record consumer confidence, then yes, my friend, I'll take the Clinton's over any other candidate in the field, and I don't mind one iota if Bill Clinton is involved or if Hillary is riding his coattails. So, before you start disparaging a person born and raised in the USA, maybe you should do a little more in-depth studying of the facts and leave the gossip column and karl rove politics where they belong: up north in the ice and snow!

  • Posted By: Florida Phil @ 11/17/2007 8:59:09 AM

    The debates need to have commentators who will ask the tough questions. not wolf blitzer forevermore! Tim Russert, Chris Matthews type interviewers. Hillary Clinton can't make up her mind on what or who she represents. It's too bad that Obama doesn't have more experience.

    • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/19/2007 3:51:34 AM

      tim russert and chris matthews? why? because they attack hillary and leave obama alone? why can't a journalist ask obama tough questions, calling him on his waffling and fl;ip-flops? i think i know the answer to that: adults aren't supposed to pick on kids.

  • Posted By: greenbug @ 11/18/2007 9:27:26 AM

    If you watch the exchange again you see that Obama answered Wolf the first time yes. blitzer would not accept it and it became roundly accepted by the msm that he ducked. wrong. The whole thing was a sham with the audience stacking and the booing by Clinton loyalists. CNN is indeed the clinton news network and they totally caved to Hillary's threats. Give me Russert anytime. he doesn't fall for Hillary's garbage.

    • Posted By: Steven Daytona Beach @ 11/19/2007 3:49:05 AM

      funny how you support russert because he and williams went after clinton time and again without giving the same attention and questions to obama and edwards. yet when wolf blitzer asked obama 1 LESS qustion during the debate than he asked clinton, suddenly its a conspiracy to get obama and favor clinton. must have been those 22 people in the audience that clinton gave tickets to (the same number of guests everyone else on the stage had) that conspired with wolf to get obama. this just goes to show how out of tune the obamaniacs are with politics as a whole. first, i don't know if i was watching the same debate as them, but i thought 2 other journalists were asking the questions and wolf was just doing follow-ups, but i guess it helps to follow the republican henchman matt drudge and his unsubstantiated lies. second, i find it most amusing that obama's entire campaign is supposed to be based on "the politics of hope" and yet anytime you read a comment by one of his supporters there is nothing about any vision or plan for our future,,,,you only find them spewing hatred and vile, disparaging comments about hillary! why is that? as far as the booing, once again i have to say, she had 22 invited guests in the audience, just like all other candidates. the rest were invited by the democratic party and UNLV. somewhere in those little peas in your head that you call brains, did you ever consider that the majority of the audience, just like the majority of americans, actually support hillary because she is the mast viable, well disciplined, di[plomatic candidate that stays on message about what she is going to do for our country, instead of trying to blame all of her problems on everyone else but herself? take a good, lonk, honest look at everything that has been presented and you can do nothing but say "I'm voting Hillary". and please people, if you are going to support a candidate for change in politics, back up that support with some substance on your stance on issues and save the fear-and-smear for the karl roves of this country.

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 11/17/2007 9:38:24 PM


    Having gone through the comments of my learned friends mentioned below, I smell the odor of ???MOSAD??? and ???AIPAC??? ???S presence throughout the length and breadth of USA in every nook and corner to ensure obstruction in the rising of the SAVIOR of USA. They are engaged to do so because they so brilliantly tarnished the image of the lone supper power to utilize USA in their sinister designs through out the world to establish themself as the unquestionable might of the world at the cost of USA.

    Any sane person would agree that Hillary Clinton a lady knocked off not only all the democrats Presidential Candidates but also the fore runner of the Republican Party too. Having seen, listened to from all corners and felt the impact of Hillary Clintons political sagacity, her diplomatic capability and commendations of defense personal regarding her acceptability as COMMANDER IN CHIEF is definitely much higher then all other Presidential Candidates of both the parties the Male stooges of " MOSAD" and "AIPAC"

    I find it imperative to mention here that none of the Presidential Candidates could exhibit so far except Hillary Clinton etiquette that commensurate with the post of the President of USA that too the President of the lone supper power of the world. We definitely do not want any more monkey, man-eater, elephant, snake, scorpion, devil MURDERER AND LIAR like personality as our President anymore.

    My learned friends ask your present incumbent the Vice President why did he with Bush went to war in the interest of oil and to establish Israel as the head man of the Arab land. And more so WHO are these people who controls USA'S economy, commerce, finance ELECTRONIC AND PRESS MEDIA.and has harmed the religious believe of Christianity by incest in family life by pretending to be the mighty exponent of Christianity. All these be asked from Republicans and not from Hillary Clinton. If you all don???t like her then you may as well go to hell who bothers.

    These idiots now gather the audacity to rebuff, in a masterly slanting tone the statement made by the Bishops of Church in a Christian country. Please go and ask Mr. Bush and the Republican party chief as to for whom these people picked up so much audacity to criticize the church Bishops for casting objection on Mr. Giuliani a corrupt criminal, responsible for the killing of Americans in twin tower destruction and also helping the police chief to illegally earn money with a percentage given to him.
    D C HAPPY



  • Posted By: bonas50 @ 11/17/2007 4:09:48 AM

    Part 3 of Ironpant.... Sorry I mean Asbestos Pants, though Willie might be partial to the first description.
    The CEO of Infor USA, Vinead Gupta, a while back bowed out of a fund raiser for Clinton. Gupta was and maybe still is embroiled in a law suit because he gave the Clintons more than $900,000 to provide corporate Jet flights at their pleasure. He paid Willie $2.2 million in consulting fees ( I just love this term, Consulting" ) since he left the White House , meanwhile promising him another 1.2 million for the same service. Is he worth it ? Well , Gupta said " He has brought in over $40 million in political ( yes Political ) connections .... Just a little aside to those who think the Dems are your salvation..... Info USA had hired Nancy Pelosi's son Paul Jr. as a $180,000 a year senior vice president. ( Paul has no experience in the company's main business activities.
    Ever since they got together, Willie and Hillary have played fast and loose with the truth and their code of conduct is always suspect.. They follow the old corrupt adage that the " end justifies the means ". And the end is the White House. The means, step on anyone to get there, tell any lie to get there, and dodge any questions that require a yes or no answer. Lest anyone chide me with the fact that no politician today can pass the litmus test , I would have to agree . We have become a nation of voting against rather than for the Presidency.... Lest G Bush think he is where he is because the majority wanted him , wake up Georgie boy and smell the coffee.... you are there because most thought that you might just be a little better than Gore. Neithre scenario is anything to brag over.
    By the way, we now know that Hillary had to return $180.000 or near that amount which was donated by a felon , ( Chu ?) who is undergoing persecution.
    We all know that this is only the tip of the iceberg. We know that with icebergs the greatest danger lies beneath the surface. Before this is all over , not releasing the Hillary papers notwithstanding, I have a feeling the Clintons may be sorry they ever decided to run again. So, for all you who think everyone is picking on her because she is a woman, or for any other bogus reason, these are some of the facts... They are not astute politicians. They are consumate liars and a pair that no one can trust..... So, all those who think she should be President, well , " there ar none so blind as those who will not see "... Be happy in your ignorance, but stay home next November and give this nation a chance to dig itself out from the hole the present administration has dug for us.

  • Posted By: bonas50 @ 11/17/2007 3:47:52 AM

    2nd. part of Asbestos Pants ----Hillary is a Socialist , plain and simple --- As long as it's not her money she is spending, and spend she can, she'll put forth any and all plans to cure the world's ills. She has never voted for a tax cut in her life..... She thinks that we, the unwashed electorate, are not capable of thinking for ourselves and we need her and the government to do everything for us. Hence, she cannot even conceive the thought that she will not be the Dems choice to run. In her mind, she has already passed this little obstacle. ( well she might, because I don't see too much opposition in her party at the present time ) So she sees herself and Slick Willie in the White House running things again. I may be guessing , but I think she and Willie cooked this up a long time ago in college or maybe in his mind while in Canada dodging the draft. Hmmmm! I guess Clinton, Bush, and Cheney are not too far apart at that.... Not a shot fired in anger. Yes, not since FDR have we had a 3rd term for anyone, but remember anyone that can parse the word " it" to such a degree and hold up an impeachment , can't be dismissed entirely . Back to his wife ? She is proposing a $150 Million Defence spending bill. ..... Hill newspaper reported that Clinton secured 26 pet projects, now identified as " earmarks " worth $ 148 Million for a 2008 defence spending bill. More than any Democrat except for the chairman of the Armed Services Committee. Siince 2002-2006 , she has landed 360 such earmarks, worth 2.2 Billion, ( that's Billion with a capital B ) in various spending bills.... The beneficiaries have ranged from Defence Giant , Northrop Grumman Corp. to Hew York based Telephonics who wond a $5 million dollar contract for helicopter equipment.
    And thinking ahead, oh we can never accuse the Clintons of not thinking ahead when it comes to increasing the bank account or their quest for power......... Who do you think she has on tap for one of her national Chairmanships ? None other than that paragon of virtue, Alcee Hastings. The Southern district of Florida Judge who was impeached and removed from office for corruption and perjury. Hmmmmm! I think Willie may know a little about this little endeavor.
    ( I don't know how many characters I have left, so I'll send this and continue again )

  • Posted By: bonas50 @ 11/17/2007 3:31:38 AM

    H. Clinton and her asbestos pants -- I hope she has them, anything would be a step up from that canary yellow tent she usually wears. Now for some facts that all her followers seem to ignore in their sobbing sympathy for her for whatever reason :
    Five years ago, she voted to authorize the war --- In June of this year, she voted against the funding but not for a withdrawl date.-----In May 2007, she voted to cut off funding for the war, then refused to pledge and support a measure if it came to a vote .... Then almost as quickly she said she would. Queried on whether she favored the withdrawl which had just came up for a vote on the Senate floor she said, " I'm not going to speculate on what I'm going to be foting on in the future. I voted in favor of cloture to have a debate ". Only a few hours later, she had but another answer : " I support the underlying bill, that's what this vote on cloture was all about ". Perhaps she made a little call to Slick Willie for advice. Other Senators remarked, " Frankly, we're as confused as anyone, on Senator Clinton's position "... ( Source for this ---- Cristy Setzer, Sen. Dodd's spokesperson )
    You want some more waffling ? Or perhaps it is a lesson in Hypocracy 101. ---She spoke at a pro-illegal protest rally and did a 180 when she took panering to new heights, in calling for a border fence, possibly using a surveillance drone, and infrared cameras.. Telling this to the " Daily News "... --- To add insult to injury , this came after she had blasted the Republicans for their crackdown on Illegal Aliens, calling their actions Un-christianlike. I could never find any references to Illegal Immigration on her web site, too hot a topic for her to get involved with at the time, but who knows : since she got caught in the headligts in the debate on giving liscenses, maybe she was forced to enter it into her web. Of course she will wait to see how the wind blows before making a move either way. .
    Small incidents in her life do not escape her lies. Hillarey said, " Chelsea was jogging in Battery Park near the Trade Center, when 9-11 happened. Well , she should have checked with her daughter.. Chelsea in an article for " Talk Magazine " stated that she was at a friend's apartment on Park Ave. South, watching the events on T .V
    ( Since my original comment wasn't printed because i think I went over the 3000 character limit, I'll continue this )

  • Posted By: 44dakota @ 11/17/2007 3:14:29 AM

    Hillary Clinton is a disgrace. She makes me sick.

  • Posted By: 44dakota @ 11/17/2007 3:13:21 AM

    Hillary Clinton is a disgrace.
    She makes me sick to my stomach.

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