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John Edwards is running out of time.

By Richard Wolffe | Newsweek Web Exclusive

Nov 16, 2007 | Updated: 7:58 a.m. ET Nov 16, 2007

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Posted By: nosassingSWMBO @ 11/23/2007 2:57:17 PM

Comment: To "honorine" - I wish more of the candidates, R and D, would get angry. Thirty plus years ago the Republicans joined the Democrats in an intervention when high crimes and misdemeanors were going on in the White House. Now the Republicans are enablers, refusing to hold this administration accountable. We need someone to get angry about where this administration has taken the country and and how much time and energy the next administration will have to spend repairing the damage done.

To "tarheelsarenotforedwards" - being a manager does equal wealth. My father was a regional manager, wore a shirt and tie to work and we were never above lower middle class. The government's definition of middle class begins with annual household income in the $20k range which is ridiculous wherever in the country one might live. As for taxes, the plan should be to close loopholes for hedge funds and corporation. If you haven't seen it, take a look at "Why We Fight," an excellent documentary that warns about exactly where we are unfortunately today - with the military industrial (congressional) complex running our country. It's probably much worse than Eisenhower ever imagined.

So for me, anyone but Hillary who would just continue the corrupt system. I hold out little hope of anyone really being able to reverse course. Take a look at "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" and you'll see that similar corruption was already in place way back in 1939!!!
Posted By: uuforyou @ 11/17/2007 9:27:22 AM

Comment: I voted for John Edwards once, and I'd vote for him again. I truly believe he would be "The peoples President".
I'd like most of all to see a Edwards/Bayh ticket. A strong center/left Southerner and a center/right midwesterner. I truly love America, thats why I vote Democrat.
Posted By: AmericanCitizen @ 11/17/2007 8:54:10 AM

Comment: I am a registered democrat and have voted for democrats my entire life but if Edwards becomes the nominee I will have to vote for a republican. To win elections the democratic party needs to move back from the abyss that is socialism.
Posted By: AmericanCitizen @ 11/17/2007 8:37:23 AM

Comment: Those who created the increase in productivity with the power of their brains should share more in the gains from them. Yes those that work with their hands and do things ANYONE can be trained to do are less secure now, they should be. Creativity and brain power are the only things that improve all our lives and should thus be given more rewards. Capitalism is the worst economic system except for all the others that have been tried. if you want to see the results of socialism look at france.
Posted By: cybercitizen @ 11/17/2007 1:24:51 AM

Comment: Because John Edwards did not sell his soul to gain contribution money, the broadcast media often ignore him. They know where the stations manager's bread is buttered. Edwards focuses his efforts and policies on improving the lives of working people and ensuring that our children will have a better future. Working people did not share in the benefits of productivity growth in the last decade. They work harder, feel more at risk, and cannot afford campaign contributions. Edwards fights for them first and foremost.
Posted By: honorine @ 11/16/2007 10:26:30 PM

Comment: I used to respect Edwards and think that he was cool. Now, he sounds like an angry old man who is upset and acting like a crazy man. He needs to get his act together. He must calm now and stop acting so hyper. He misspeaks all the time.
Posted By: 18anapple2 @ 11/16/2007 7:31:31 PM

Comment: Note that Edwards says that she has taken more money than any other candidate.. Edward has also accepted money from these special interests only not as much ...an analysis of info available on opensecrets .com is clear eveidence of that .
a function of these donations is the fact that people actually want to give it you....its rather hilarious that Edwards has tried to make into a virtue the fact that although he would love to accept their money they just dont want to give it to him because they really are smart enough not to want to back a losing horse!
Posted By: 18anapple2 @ 11/16/2007 7:30:54 PM

Comment: Note that Edwards says that she has taken more money than any other candidate.. Edward has also accepted money from these special interests only not as much ...an analysis of info available on opensecrets .com is clear eveidence of that .
a function of these donations is the fact that people actually want to give it you....its rather hilarious that Edwards has tried to make into a virtue the fact that although he would love to accept their money they just dont want to give it to him because they really are smart enough not to want to back a losing horse!
Posted By: dandino @ 11/16/2007 6:23:05 PM

Comment: As many of you have mentioned - the pro Hillary bias of Blitzer and his crew + the pro-Hillary audience they put together was quite a shocker. The fact that the audience booed whenever anyone had the audacity to disagree with Hillary, combined with Blitzer's decision to allow (perhaps encourage is a better word) it was a bit much.
- Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 19:26:11
  
  Comment: In Nevada it wasn't hard to put together a pro-Hillary audience with 55% of the Democrats supporting her.
Posted By: bogey666 @ 11/16/2007 5:47:18 PM

Comment: I am not a Hilary hater.

she is very good on her feet at these debate settings. She's the queen of the quick debate soundbite, all vetted prior by her pollsters and advisers.

She's also a very smart woman, no doubt.

But this packing of the crowd with pro Hilary heckling goons, and her (to what to me is most amusing) headmistress glare when she's taken to the woodshed for being the ultimate insider and favorite of corporate interests is just too funny.

Hilary as "change"? too funny.

She's also the liberal version of the "Nanny State", just like the evangelical Puritan loons on the right, she also knows "what is BEST for you".

because it takes a village. With her heading it.

I'm going to hurl chunks now.
Posted By: WestCoastSweetheart @ 11/16/2007 5:38:40 PM

Comment: The Middle class can't exactly be debated by a number. In some areas, namely the large cities (that the Democrats NEED to court), $97,000-$150,000 just does not get you as far as it used to. In those areas it IS the middle class. Our household brings in about that, and we certainly aren't in the upper class. Cities such as Seattle, D.C., New York, San Fransisco, etc, $97,000 per year would not get you much of anything. Yes, only 6% of people make more than that, but they are largely in large cities and are the middle class. There is no easy answer, but if a person that makes $1,000,000 is taxed the same (provided their is an increase)as a person making $150,000, the person making $150,000 will certainly feel it much worse than the former.... Just food for thought.
Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 4:30:27 PM

Comment: Edwards is a flip-flopper by nature. When he was running for the Senate in North Carolina in 1998, he presented himself as a moderate to get the voters of Conservative North Carolina to vote for him. In 2004 his was a liberal that was left of moderate. In 2008, he's became a leftist, socialist, and a populist to appeal to the moveon.org wing of the Democrat Party. Which will Edwards be in the White House if elected.
- Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 16:38:34
  
  Comment: Well he BETTER be what he has promised us or we'll throw him out in 2012!!! And I believe he will be. Or I wouldn't bust my hump to help him. Hey, I have been on these boards all day - I do have a life, nice debating with you but I have to run.
  - Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 18:01:11
    
    Comment: North Carolinians are fed up with Edwards. He spent his 6 years in the Senate from 1998 to 2004 running for the Presidency. He had the poorest attendance record in the Senate and missed more floor votes than any other Senator. He only voted on items that he could use later in his campaign for President. If he's elected President he will go AWOL for four years campaigning for King of the World.
Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 4:25:49 PM

Comment: Edwards appears tired in debates and on television because his populist and socialist messages aren't being accepted by the voters. It's hard for man who gets $400 dollar haircuts and lives in $6 million dollar estates to have credibility with the voters when he talks about the two Americas and how he's for the average worker.
Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 4:12:08 PM

Comment: The commentators of the debates need to ask Edwards how much he will raise taxes on the middle class and the wealthy to pay for all of the Socialist and Populist promises that he makes to the poor. If Edwards is elected he will bankrupt the middle class, the wealthy, and the country as a whole to pay for the Socialist and Populist promises that he makes to the poor. Edwards is trying to be Robin Hood.class and the
- Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 16:20:18
  
  Comment: He isn't going to raise taxes on the middle class - only on the wealthy.
  - Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 16:27:03
    
    Comment: JenniferAmelia's comments are missing the disclaimer that says "this political statement is paid for by the John Edwards for President campaign".
    - Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 16:31:28
      
      Comment: Nope - I do it for free because I strongly believe he is the best candidate.
  - Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 16:24:52
    
    Comment: To pay for all of the promises he's made, he's going to have to raise taxes across the board. Also, what's your definition of middle class. Depending on the candidate, the cap of middle class is anywhere from $100,000 to $250,000. When it comes time to pay for all of Edwards Socialist and Populist promises, the cap on middle class will move lower towards $100,000 and even lower depending on how is needed.
    - Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 16:34:49
      
      Comment: Well I'm not sure what the statistics are. But in the debate last night Obama said that only 6% of Americans make more than 97,000 per year. SO, I'd say the middle class is somewhere in the MIDDLE..... Wherever that is. I think it's like about 40,000 or 50,000? That's the middle. So where would I put the cap? 100,000 probably. Too bad for you 6% but you're NOT the middle class. You're the upper class. I don't know where Edwards will put the cap - I'm sure he'll be fair.
Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 4:09:07 PM

Comment: Edwards did not start out dirt poor. You have to be careful with Edwards because he lies by omission. Edwards tells us that his Dad worked in the mill all of this life therefore showing that John Edwards has blue collar roots and values. What John Edwards didn't tell us is that his Dad was a manager in the mill. With his Dad being a manager John Edwards doesn't have blue collar roots and values.
Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 4:07:16 PM

Comment: Edwards didn't start out dirt poor. When Edwards talks about his past, he lies through omissions. Edwards tells us that his Dad worked in mill all of his life to show that John Edwards has blue collar roots and values. What Edwards doesn't tell us is that his Dad was a manager in the mill. This knowledge shows us that Edwards doesn't have blue collar roots and values.
- Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 16:19:02
  
  Comment: I was under the impression that his father was not promoted to manager until later in his childhood. That means he STARTED OUT poor. I didn't say he was poor all his childhood.
  - Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 18:03:12
    
    Comment: You've been listening to too much propaganda and spin from the Edwards campaign. His father was a manager in the mill most of John's childhood and college years.
Posted By: dougmourer @ 11/16/2007 4:06:46 PM

Comment: No, you got it wrong...I was thinking of my dog.
- Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 16:27:58
  
  Comment: Yes your dog probably has a better chance of beating the Republicans than Hillary does too lol....
Posted By: dougmourer @ 11/16/2007 3:17:14 PM

Comment: Look, I am not against Edwards. You may be tired of Bush/Clinton/Bush/and potentially Clinton, but look at the man..his wanting to do the best for the country will never find him lifting up the little people: you and me. Not as long as he one of those wealthy you speak of. Get real and get behind someone who will beat the dead headed Repub''s!
- Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 15:53:51
  
  Comment: dougmourer: #1. I don't believe you - you are DEFINITELY against Edwards!
  #2. Edwards started out dirt poor. Edwards started out WAY poorer than Hillary. Edwards started out even poorer than me I think. He's been there. Sure he's wealthy now. But he knows where he came from. He's said he will never forget where he came from. And I believe him. Besides, they're ALL wealthy! You can't run for president anymore unless you're wealthy.
  #3. If you are referring to Hillary as somebody who can "beat the dead headed Repub's" then I think you are badly mistaken. I think she'll lose. I think they'll shred her. Edwards has a better chance of beating them than Hillary does.
Posted By: mikesmithcomic @ 11/16/2007 2:18:16 PM

Comment: I sincerely believe that if Obama and Edwards declared themselves to be "The Democratic Ticket" they would pull the rug right out from under Hillary's candidacy. Too many Democrats are searching for an alternative to the Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush/Bush/Clinton syndrome.
Posted By: dougmourer @ 11/16/2007 1:48:27 PM

Comment: Edwards looks and sounds like HE is even tired of hearing himself! Tired, very old material is difficult to sell to an interested ear much less the disinterested ones. His never ending pounding of Hiliary detracts from his medicore and difficult to believe message of change. Being a political journeyman like he is turns him through his sour sincerity, into just another one of the insiders.
- Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 14:32:58
  
  Comment: I agree - sometimes John Edwards does seem tired. I'm sure he probably IS tired. Tired of being beaten on by the media. Tired of being called names. Tired of not getting the respect he deserves as one of the Democratic front-runners. Tired of being run ragged by day after day on the road, trying to keep his name out there. His campaign lacks the funds to run advertisements like Hillary and Obama can with their bloated coffers. I'd probably be tired too if I were him. As far as his message being "old" yeah, I suppose wanting to do the best for the majority of people in this country and believing that the wealthiest should pay their fair share may be old, but it's as good as ever in my book, and if it isn't good in your book, you've got a problem. His message is far from medIOcre (use spell check next time) - it's strong, right, straight-forward and courageous.
  - Posted By: tarheelsarenotforedwards @ 11/16/2007 16:22:27
    
    Comment: He's tired because his populist and socialist messages aren't being accepted by the voters. It's hard for man who gets $400 dollar haircuts and lives in $6 million dollar estates to have credibility with the voters when he talks about the two Americas and how he's for the average worker.
    - Posted By: cybercitizen @ 11/17/2007 01:33:02
      
      Comment: Edwards has visited all 99 counties in Iowa. He works really really hard. His haircuts cost more because he pays the barber to travel to him. That way, he has enough time to shake more hands and answer more questions. The house they built is Elizabeth Edwards' dream house, the one built to pamper her. The one they will spend the rest of their lives in--minus their years in the White House.
Posted By: nosassingSWMBO @ 11/16/2007 1:24:34 PM

Comment: It's encouraging to see these positive and hopeful comments about John Edwards, Joe Biden, et al. While I am a "Decline to State" citizen, raised in very Republican home, living in the Nuts, Fruits and Flakes State of CA, I don't know anyone who is for Hillary Clinton. And it concerns me that she is leading in the polls. We must change the "military industrial [congressional] complex" that has gone from simply corrupting our form of government to corrupting our world neighbors. As Mr. Edwards has said, a Clinton Whitehouse would be more of the same with a "D" rather than an "R." While I applaud her accomplishments, she will be unable to unite this badly divided, demoralized nation. Iowaberry, anything we non-Iowans can do in the next 45 days to assist? Ditto New Hampshire.
- Posted By: cybercitizen @ 11/17/2007 01:40:03
  
  Comment: Donations are welcome via http://johnedwards.com, or mail to John Edwards for President, FUNDRAISING, 410 Market Street Suite 400, Chapel Hill, NC 27516, or faxed to 919-967-3644.
Posted By: JenniferAmelia @ 11/16/2007 12:58:18 PM

Comment: What I would like to know is this: why, when he is the only viable alternative to Clinton and Obama, did John Edwards get less time to talk last night than either Biden or Kucinich, neither of whom has any realistic chance of winning the nomination? Why was he seated off to the side instead of next to the other front-runners? It really makes you start to believe that the media is out to get him, as his campaign has alleged. For some reason they are trying to force-feed us Clinton and Obama (especially Clinton), maybe because they are owned by big corporations that are scared sh*tless of an Edwards presidency. Hopefully people will see how unfairly Edwards is being treated and it will make them angry.

I would like to see the American public show some insight and some spine and say "You are not going to choose our president for us. WE will choose our own president. We're not as stupid as you seem to think we are. We will choose the person that's going to do the most for us, and we can't be bought, bullied, or tricked into voting for the candidate that you want us to elect so that you can continue to flourish at our expense." That's what I want to see happen, and that's what I think WILL happen.

As far as Edwards changing his positions on things like universal healthcare from a few years back, that's ok. People change over the years. They have time to reflect, they see the error of their ways, and they change paths. That's entirely different from what Hillary Clinton has done over the past couple weeks regarding drivers licenses for illegal aliens. Two weeks ago she said she was for them, then she stuck her finger in the wind and realized that was an unpopular position. So last night she changed her position. Hillary Clinton is just a double-talking politician.

And furthermore, I think nominating Hillary is a great way for the Democrats to up the odds that they will lose the 2008 election, which should be theirs for the taking. Winning New York is a WHOLE OTHER DEAL from winning the United States. Maybe Hillary can win New York, but can she win Texas? Montana? Tennessee? NO. Hillary Clinton cannot win conservative rural districts. Period.
Posted By: Blubbalip @ 11/16/2007 12:29:18 PM

Comment: How can anyone vote for Hillary Clinton? Even I could say that I will get a bi-lateral commision to solve all the world's problems, which is what I continue to hear from her. We already have that group - it's called Congress. What we need is someone to lead, not get another languishing group together.
Posted By: Cincinnatius @ 11/16/2007 12:25:11 PM

Comment: This Ohioan also believes John Edwards has many more latent supporters than indicated by current polls. His campaign is right to concentrate on appealing to actual voters and in refusing funding from big money lobbyists on principle. If we elect our next leaders based primarily on their support among our financial elites and their media enablers then our national health can only continue to deteriorate. I urge all voters to consider John Edwards and other principled candidates on their own merits, and to not be lulled by our commercial media into supporting candiidates based soley on their appeal to large contributors and special interest advocates.
Posted By: drakelaw06 @ 11/16/2007 12:13:53 PM

Comment: Is it me or does Hillary's line make no sense. "...when somebody starts throwing mud, at least we can hope that it's both accurate and right out of the Republican playbook." So we should hope that it's accurate. And we should hope its right out of the Republican playbook. why would I ever hope anything is right out of the Republican playbook. I think I understand what she is saying, it was not executed correctly and I wouldn't give her any points this round like every one on the Hillary bandwagon wants to. Remember Kerry's botched joke? We all knew what he was saying but its not what he said.
Regardless, I wish team Hillary would stop pretending they're above the fray. If any campaign has done any mud sliging it is hers. All they care about is power. They have done nothing but criticize and spin every other candidate. And give me a break on not playing the gender card. Who are you really trying to convince the voters or yourself. This is one Iowa Democrat that is going to have some difficulty voting this year if she gets the nomination. Wake up America, she ain't Bill and the good old days aren't gonna come back just because a Clinton is in the White House.

Go Edwards/Obama 08!!!
- Posted By: echavajm1978 @ 11/16/2007 15:53:44
  
  Comment: You did not hear or read the comment correctly. Or what you read was typed wrong. She did not say "we can hope that it's both accurate and right out of the Republican playbook." She said, "we can hope that it's both accurate and NOT right out of the Republican playbook." So as you can see...the word "not" really makes a huge difference. I watched a clip of her comment and I'm correct on what she actually said.
Posted By: Pacrat @ 11/16/2007 12:06:14 PM

Comment: John Edward's downfall was his self portrayal as coming from poverty. Nonsense. However, he is the only candidate of either party who seems to be concerned about poor people.

He seems desperate at this point. Why? Would anyone really want him to be president? He had a totatlly meaninfless term as a Senator - why would he suddenly become a good president. Not that anyone wouldn't be better than Bush and his syncophants today!
Posted By: dawnra @ 11/16/2007 12:06:01 PM

Comment: I think Edwards/ Biden is the ticket I'd most like to see. They in my opinion they are the most sincere, honest, realilty based candidates on either side. Hillary is becoming more intolerable with each passing day.
Edwards wants to do what ever he can for the people of this country, Hillary, what every she can for her own selfish ego. That is exactly what I see!
Posted By: Pacrat @ 11/16/2007 12:03:08 PM

Comment: What brought John down was his own rhetoric. His claim to be poor was suspect at best and spurious at worse. However, since he was the only democratic candidate who seemed genuinely concerned about poor people. As for the republican candidates - forget it. They could care less about poor people!

What in the world has made Iowa the state who decides who is the nominee or not. The state is hardly representative of America at large and the folksy portrayal of its citizens as average Americans is ludicrous. The same holds true for New Hampshire. Both states are important, but hardly set the tone for the rest of America.
Posted By: iowaberry @ 11/16/2007 11:34:45 AM

Comment: This Iowan believes the country will wake up on January 4 to a new frontrunner. His name is John Edwards. No polls indicate that; just a gut feeling after talking to many Iowa caucus-goers over the past several weeks. Regardless, it's going to be a much tighter race than the media is leading us to believe.
- Posted By: nosassingSWMBO @ 11/16/2007 13:27:43
  
  Comment: Your mouth to God's ear. Do you have a pulpit?!
Posted By: iowaberry @ 11/16/2007 11:32:28 AM

Comment: This Iowan believes that Edwards will, indeed, astonish the country by winning the January 3 caucuses. No polls tell me that. But that's the sense I get from talking to many Iowans over the past several weeks.
- Posted By: sean2007 @ 11/16/2007 12:06:22
  
  Comment: I agree that Edwards will be the winner-I tell all the way from New Jersey !

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