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Absent amnesia—which only happens on soaps—Democrats will be fine.
It seems I can't post my Daily Kos blog webpage address without it being cut off.
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or just go to http://www.dailykos.com and search for Newt's diary
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Hillary Clinton is the GOP's best GOTV strategy
Thank you, Karl Robe, for the wake up call to blue America. If Democrats want to win the 2008 presidency and, more importantly, achieve a landslide takeover of Congress next fall, we need a team that won???t stir up the negative passions of conservatives. Even with the Iraq war and lying, cheating and stealing (war profiteering and record oil profits) firmly tied to Bush Admin policies, the left wing response is dismal. The left simply doesn???t use its majority voting clout. Next year there is more at stake than just the presidency. Progressives have a potentially historic opportunity to take back the Senate in 2008. We need to be careful not to reinvigorate the faltering conservative movement with a bad choice in the Democratic primary. Democrats banking on failure in Iraq and awareness of what the disastrous Bush Admin policies have done to our country in the past six years support any candidate who says they???ll do things differently. Democrat contenders are riding the anti-war, anti-Bush movement. But savvy voters can proactively calculate how the election will go next year if our candidate strikes a hugely negative chord with Middle America. If Sen. Hillary Clinton wins the nomination she will inspire conservatives to vote as no one else could. Right-wingers don't just dislike her, they actively despise her! They'll vote in droves to ensure she doesn't win the presidency. Anyone but Hillary is the Republicans' best GOTV tactic, even more so than their anti-gay and anti-choice strategies that have spurred their followers to vote in the past. While at the polls, they???ll also vote for all those rubber-stamping Republican Senators that progressives would like to fire. For that matter, plenty of people would vote against Barack Obama simply because he???s black or against Bill Richardson because he???s Hispanic. While we should not dismiss either of them just because racism stands in their way, Democrats should be realistic about their prospects as number one on a presidential ticket.
It???s time for progressives to face reality: A split vote between Obama and Edwards will likely result in a huge loss next fall. If progressives want to enact change in Congress to achieve true election reform, get big business out of our government and move to an independent Iraq, we need to decide on a team that can truly win, before the Democratic Primary occurs. If Molly Ivins were alive, perhaps we could ask her to publish her pick for president and vice president and try to create a solid voting block that way. She said, ???There are times when regular politics will not do, and this is one of those times.??? If Democrats can identify a winning team before the Primary elections, Edwards, Richardson, Obama or even Dennis Kucinich have a chance to do what???s right and team up NOW to help Democrats take back both the Senate and the presidency in 2008.
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Right on Markos! I have been reading some of the unremarkable comments coming directly form the other 30% that have blindly been following the failed Bush Presidency even when 7 painful years have passed. Instead we are sadly subjected to the inexcusable lies and implausible outcomes of traitors like Karl Rove and his ???BFFL??? Bob Novak. We now know that the despicable act of outing a CIA operative was one of the lowest moments in our history and that anyone would consider any advice from one of these traitors as unbelievable. To be devoid of reality and absent of facts other than your own is wrong. Misguided political gaming like I read in Rove???s article is always followed in lock step by the ???sheep??? that have nothing but praise for a traitor like Novak and Rove but in the same breath would dismiss the facts; that 7 out of 10 Americans are extremely unhappy with the direction of this county under the Bush regime will not be forgotten any time soon.
Right on Markos! I have been reading some of the unremarkable comments coming directly form the other 30% that have blindly been following the failed Bush Presidency even when 7 painful years have passed. Instead we are sadly subjected to the inexcusable lies and implausible outcomes of traitors like Karl Rove and his ???BFFL??? Bob Novak. We now know that the despicable act of outing a CIA operative was one of the lowest moments in our history and that anyone would consider any advice from one of these traitors as unbelievable. To be devoid of reality and absent of facts other than your own is wrong. Misguided political gaming like I read in Rove???s article is always followed in lock step by the ???sheep??? that have nothing but praise for a traitor like Novak and Rove but in the same breath would dismiss the facts; that 7 out of 10 Americans are extremely unhappy with the direction of this county under the Bush regime will not be forgotten any time soon.
The contrast between this piece and Karl Rove's is subtle, but stunning.
Mr. Rove understands campaigning; Mr. Moulitsas understands blogging. Rove outlines a strategy for Republicans to get 50.1% against Hillary Clinton, who will probably be on the ballot; Moulitsas exhorts Democrats to get angry at George Bush, who will certainly not be on the ballot. Rove has won 2 presidential elections he had no business winning; Moulitsas has made a business of backing losers.
Taken together, these two essays chart the way for Democrats to lose again in 2008. The question that should concern Mr. Moulitsas is not why Democrats are so much better at governing, but why Republicans are so much better at getting elected.
Once again, the "backing losers" theme so popular among wingnut welfare recipients and their peripatetic fans when talking about Markos Moulitsas, rears its ugly head.
Why? Because to the modern American right wing, there is no principle that can not be immediately sacrificed for the sake of gaining and holding power. Because Moulitsas acts out of principle and supports progressive candidates who are often long shots (guys like Jon Tester and Jim Webb, neither of whom were favored by the Democratic Party bosses in their primary campaigns, but who -- by the way -- ended up winning), his candidates don't always win.
But unlike the modern American right wing, even when his candidates lose, Moulitsas can still respect himself in the morning, having not whored his principles out to the powerful for the sake of winning.
Once again, the liberal disdain of campaign-craft rears its ugly head. Why do Democrats assume that running a competent race equates to sacrificing one's principles?
The truth is the reverse. If, God forbid, the Democratic Presidential nominee adopts the Moulitsas strategy, who pays the price of heroic failure? Will Mr. Moulitsas still respect himself, having whored the people out to the powerful for the sake of his principles?
No, the Republicans are not in tough time, the Liberal Congress is! Doesn't matter how strongly people disapprove of Pres Bush, the disapprove of Congress more! Iraq is winnable, the decimated housing market is due to Pres Clinton making sure everyone (even those you knew would be foreclosed on) was able to own a home, the economy is still in very good shape despite the declining dollar, the dysfuntcional healthcare system is not dysfunctional it is working fine, a still devastated Gulf Coast is still devastated because of the La Liberals running away with the $$ from federal funds, the wealth gap has nothing to do with anything oher than keepng America from becoming a Socialist country if Liberals get their way, and the image of America if fine except in the eyes of Liberals that can't see good in anything only gloom and doom, and the U.S. will always be a geacon of freedom and morality in the World DESPITE
You're entitled to your obtuse opionion, but not your misunderstood facts.
When the stock market peaked in January 2000, the Fed stepped in and began lowering the funds rate to prevent deflation; they ultimately kept them at 1% for far too long and enable unschooled borrowers to think their homes were ATMs as Bush encouraged everyone to go shopping after 9/11.
The Bush administration regulators (that's an oxymoron, if ever there was one) then relaxed rules for lenders allowing them to lend money to anyone who had a pulse and thus generate huge loan fees and bonuses for the lenders and Wall Street debt-to-asset magicians while condemning the financial illiterates to certain subsequent forclosure when the speculative musical chairs would ultimately end, which it is now doing.
Why do you think the Republican congress passed the stringent bankruptcy legislation that will continue to enrich their banking cronies? The banking lobbyists certainly knew what was coming.
You could get a clue by borrowing some books from the library and reading some cogent recent economic history. But I suppose in your case it would only reinforce the wisdom of the following: Do you know what we learn from studying history? We don't learn from studying history.
The Republicans are in great shape, the Liberal Congress is in tough shape! The Gallup poll means nothing regarding Presidet Bushes approval rating compared to what the Liberal Congress rating mean to the people of the U.S.! Iraq is not a quagmire and is extremely winnable, the decimated housing market was foreseen wen President Clinton insisted every American shoud own a home and everyone with an ounce of brains could see the foreclosures coming in the not to distant future after Pres Clinton left office, some people never should have been able to own homes beause they COULD NOT PAY for them! The economy is in great shape despite Liberal biased press and declining dollar, and th wealth gap is what keeps the poorer people in the U.S. from totally going under inspite of what you the Liberal Pess think, the the Image of America is fast coming back to what it should be after the U.S. Liberals tried to demolish it, but counties like Germany and France saw through them and are lining up behind the greatest government in the world, again despitethe Americal Liberals! There is no reason for conservatives to distant thmselves from President Bush, he is not running again! There is much political progress as well as infrastructure progress in Iraq and the Liberals know it, that is why they keep saying there isn't, trying to convince themselves! SCIP is not denying healthcare to anyone, and it will not be covering the people who do not need it inthe first place, namely adults and richer Americans that want to leech off te system! The Demos have amnesia,they do not reme,ber 1996! Go ahead and remind the people of Bush's record that will seal a conservative victory! Ronald Reagan was right abou government being the problem not the solution, they stil are as you can see by the Congress rating! You can ramble on ad on about everything Conservative, but the Libs will bite the dust again in 2008 and will not win Congress or the White House back until they realize the American public is not as dumb as they thik they are!
Step right up ladies and gentleman. We have for your observation and consternation a rare but caged example of a neo-paleo wingnutus twentypercentus. Careful! Careful! Not too close now! It's angry and may bite or scratch.
You can always tell when someone gets their news from FOX ("the we distort you decide channel") and talk radio. Blame Clinton, the liberal media, blah, blah, blah. Wake up! Yeh, Gallup Polls mean nothing.
Then again, neither does the will of a majority of Americans to George Bush. Do you ever watch C-Span and actually listen to the so calles "liberal" and "conservative" congressman"? Have you ever read any of the signing statements George Bush attaches to federal laws? Basically he states that he will obey federal statute only insofar as he thinks it's constitutional, as if he is supposed to decided what is constitutional. Oh yeh, he is the "decider" after all. You are correct that S-CHIP does not refute anyone health care. The president and his congressional allies do. The president claimed he wanted to keep CHIP for poor children. That's a bold faced lie or he is absolutely clueless. Medicaid is for poor children. S-CHIP is for middle income families who can't afford health care or insurances. And what happened in 1996? Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job? To the self-righteous that preach family values, Bill and Hillary Clinton have maintained their marriage despite his infidelities. More than we can say for Knewt Gingrich or Rudi Giulliani or Fred Thompson. But I guess it's okay to lie a country into war, as Bush and his administration have done, than to lie about something as personal as adutlery. And why are Germany and France lining up behind the "greatest government in the world"?. To attack Iran? To spread democracy around the world? To let corporations write their laws? What exaclty? Give me a break!
Cmicah - I wouldn't waste my time nor energy trying to explain or enlighten someone with a fixed and narrow agenda. Focus on people who have still care about being coherent.
I do not prefer Hilary. Not because she a woman, but because of her views on gay marriage...
Marriage is both a religious and civil ceremony. As far as the religious homosexuals are concerned, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." So what verb don't you agree with, "make" or "prohibiting." We've already got laws on the books that prohibit discrimination against any racial or religious creed. Stop with the outrageous and unseemly hostility toward those who understand that ethics and morals were well defined by a Jewish rabble rouser in a eastern Mediterranean Roman colony a couple thousand years ago: "don't judge others, you're not qualified to do it." Let freedom continue and as Ben Franklin wisely admonished, "Mind your own business."
The Dems seem a tad testy here. Welfare checks late again?
Way to lower the discourse. Do you have anything meaningful to say, or are you just here to troll?
To Tbetz: Please read my comments below. It will give you some food for thought.
No, just more grist for the mill.
Now I hear that Hillary is spouting off that the present economic climate can be compared to the Great Depression. During the Depression, the unemplyment was at 20% and nobody was hiring. Now unemployment is at 4 something percent and 180,000 jobs were created last month. We are not in a depression or even a recession, but Hillary feels she can present some boldfaced lies to the American people, and some sucker will probably believe it is the truth. and vote for her.
The ship ain't sinking, folks. The Clintons have always lied and with straight faces.
The government-stated unemployment rate is a joke, a propaganda tool, and has been since Republicans started jimmying the formula during the Reagan adminstration.
See:
http://www.exilemm.com/e-sub-realunemployment.shtml
... for a detailed and documented explanation of why the real unemployment rate is well over 20% today.
Was the employment rate during the Clintons tenures propaganda tools, too? Or it just when Republicans are in power when all these employment figures are cooked in your estimation? Go figure.
I did say "since", did I not?
No matter what he campaigned as, from a policy standpoint, Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we've had since Eisenhower.
It takes quite an imagination or boat-load of wishful thinking to mistake the publics impatience with a lengthly -- and until recently mismanaged -- war for a validation of the Democrat party. The record low popularity numbers of the current Democrat Congress are evidence enough of this.
The only conclusion one can safely draw from such a generic poll question is that war is unpopular. The current discontent with the war in Iraq which may diminish with the success of the surge strategy is not a signal that we want another helping of the new deal or the great society. Liberal is still a dirty word.
If it turns out our Iraq adventure is ultimately successful and we gain a new ally in the Muslim world, we will have more influence in Muslim lands than ever before. It may even allow us to have permanent military bases in Iraq from which to contain Al Qaeda and Iran. If this happens, this gamble will be seen as at least as important as Reagan's defeat the Soviet Union. What has a Democrat president done on this level of importance since Truman? Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton -- not exactly giants in the pantheon of former presidents. Clinton deserves credit for NAFTA but it is not nearly as important in the overall scheme.
The "record low popularity" numbers you wingers love to cite are not of a "Democrat Congress" but of Congress as a whole, which, last I checked, was about 40% Republicans in one house, and 50% (51%, if we properly include Traitor Joe Lieberman) in the other. Polling (Gallup, Nov 4-5, 2007, released Nov 15, 2007) confirms that about 54% of Americans see Democrats favorably, and only 40% see Republicans favorably -- In fact, while only 9% of Democrats see Republicans favorably, 16% of Republicans see Democrats favorably, nearly two-to-one in the Democrats' favor, and among Independents, the comparison is 47% to 33% in favor of Democrats.
There are primarily two reasons why Americans hold this Congress in low esteem: 1) they have not cut off funding for the Iraq occupation, and 2) They have not impeached Bush and Cheney, with 3) Republicans are blocking all meaningful legislation bringing up a strong third place.
Wingers and Dittoheads who continue cling to that 11% approval rating as though it somehow applies to Democrats alone are whistling past the graveyard.
If there is such a strong consensus or cutting off funding for the war in Iraq, why is the Congress -- led by Democrats who are setting the agenda and control the money not able to do so? Don't they follow the polls? Or, are they too busy running from one anti-war rally to the next? Don't they know that cutting of funding for the Iraq war would guarantee them the White House and stronger majorities in Congress next year? No, they know cutting off funding for the war would banish them to political wilderness again.
Oh, there is one other reason -- expressed personally to me by my Congressperson.
Many in Congress worry the Bush is so deranged that instead of bringing the troops home after defunding, he would be obstinant and cruel enough to force them to stay in Iraq without adequate supplies, just as he sent them there without adequate supplies, or even sufficient numbers, and with no plan even to secure the weapons dumps that are now supplying the explosives for the IEDs that are killing our troops.
Those Congresspeople have a good point, too, though it is also inadequte, in my opinion.
The word placate immediately comes to mind ...
No, the Democratic leadership is mostly afraid of how their refusal to give George Bush more blood money for his failed occupation of Iraq, thus forcing him to bring our troops home -- which, given Britain's recent experience in Basra, is proving to be the best way to reduce violence in Iraq -- will be twisted by the talking heads in the employ of the warmongering media machine into "de-funding our troops" and "taking away their bullets" and other such vile lies.
And given the nature of the ownership of most of America's radio and television stations (hint -- it's six pro-Republican corporations) they have a good point, though it is insufficient in my book.
The Bush administration's invasion of Iraq is unlikely to gain any new friends in the Middle East. Nations in the region, who also suffered the effects of terrorism, generally supported military action in Afghanistan. Invading Iraq may have created counterproductive fears of "are we next? Incidentally, the Gulf War resulted in establshing a significant U.S. military presence in the area, including bases in Kuwait, Qatar, etc. As an Independent, it is interesting to observe the build-up to what could possibly be the second implosion of American conservatism. As you will recall, the Federalist Party handed its strongest tenets to the Jeffersonian Democrats, then marginalized itself into nonexistence, much as the modern Republican Party has migrated completely from its ideals of small government, protection of the rights of individual citizens, and land conservation.
Democrats will be fine? Some must be wondering after 2000 how can we possibly screw this one up? Is anyone concerned yet that the last sitting Democrat U.S. Senator to be elected President was John F. Kennedy (49.7% to 49.5% in 1960)? The last Republican U.S. Senator was Warren G. Harding (1920).
The people may vote for their own Senators and Congress members but they don't like Congress. Won't any of the leading Republicans have it easy running against a U.S. Senator?
Financial Mess. Try looking at an administration and term for what they are. One Presidential mess is carried over to the next, your right...like the Clinton Administration and the lack of budget leveling, reduction of the Armed Forces, and Foreign Relations on uneven ground. Your right, your view point is correct...if you look at it with only one eye open.
Actually, Clinton left the nation in great economic shape (at least, compared to the declining economy handed to him by his predecessor, and especially compared to the dog???s breakfast GW Bush has made of it) , and had actually rebuilt our military from the force reductions overseen by his predecessor's Defense Secretary, Richard Cheney.
For example:
In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Cheney said, "If you're going to have a smaller air force, you don't need as many F-16s...The F-16D we basically continue to buy and close it out because we're not going to have as big a force structure and we won't need as many F-16s." According to the Boston Globe, Bush's 1991 defense budget "kill[ed] 81 programs for potential savings of $ 11.9 billion...Major weapons killed include[d]....the Air Force's F-16 airplane." [Cheney testimony, House Armed Services Committee, 2/7/91; Boston Globe, 2/5/91]
The Boston Globe reported on the impact of Cheney's cuts to armored tanks: "The Army's cupboard is left particularly bare. Coming in the wake of last year's killing of the M-1 tank and the Apache helicopter, the death of the M-2 means the Army will soon have virtually no major weapons in production." [Cheney testimony, Senate Appropriations Committee, Defense Subcommittee, 6/12/90; Boston Globe, 2/5/91]
The 1990 Cheney budget proposal called for the deactivation of two Army divisions. Long range, the Pentagon planned to reduce its work force by 300,000, including about 200,000 military personnel and 100,000 civilians. In 1991, he called for reduction of 200,000 active and reserve military personnel over two years. In 1992, Cheney called for cutting 500,000 active-duty people, 200,000 reservists, and 200,000 civilians over five years. [Minneapolis Star-Tribune, 2/2/92; Chicago Tribune, 2/20/91; 1990 CQ Almanac, p. 672; Washington Post, 1/13/90; Boston Globe, 1/30/90]
The LA Times reported in November 1991 that the number of active-duty military personnel had decreased by over 106,000, or 5 percent of the total forces. The National Guard and Reserves had been cut by nearly 38,000, instead of the 105,000 the Bush Administration sought. [LA Times, 11/2/91]
The reason our military looks inadequate now is that it has been abused by the Commander in Chief, who violated the Powell Doctrine (which prohibited the sort of idiotic long-term occupation in which our military is now engaged) around which the military had been structured.
The reason the Army can barely meet its lowered recruitment goals, despite lowering the bar significantly and signing up more convicted criminals than ever, is the same reason that so many career officers are retiring, decimating the officer corps: people don't trust this Commander-In-Chief to keep them out of wars of conquest that serve only to prop him up politically and to enrich his real constituents in military industries and on Wall Street.
Great column; you nailed it.
But, neither side is ever honest in the "say-do" arena!
The story says that Bush and cabal are the true essence of conservatism, I disagree because there is nothing conservative about what this administration has done to America. Conservatives call for less government but we have seen these people turn our government into the worst beaurocratic nightmare ever.
It is more intrusive into our lives without the required warrants and it even has the phone companies helping them spy on us. I would say that is government run amok and I say it is our fault collectively speaking.
We have allowed the government to get too far away from the constitution and our apathy is reaping what it has sown.
If Conservatives "are for less government", why is it that every time a self-proclaimed conservative obtains political power (as was the case with both Reagan and GW Bush) he grabs more power for himself and his cronies, disenfranchising the common man? Why is it that self-proclaimed "conservatives" always run up government debt to record levels (as Reagan-Bush I did), leaving it to "liberals" like Bill Clinton to balance the budget and try to clean up the conservatives' fiscal mess?
Admiral Rickover used to talk about the politician's "say-do" syndrome -- if a politician says that he supports something, he considers it to be done, even though all he has offered are words. When it comes to small, non-intrusive government and fiscal responsibility, self-proclaimed "conservatives" talk a good game -- but judged on their actions when given power to act, self-proclaimed "conservatives" usually, with very few exceptions, turn out to be simple lying, power-hungry hypocrites.
I think you should present facts here not the political BS you have written. We need to make our decisions based on facts not lies. Maybe we should get rid of our political party system so we force people to vote for the best person. Unfortunately belonging to a certain political party doesn't make a person automatically smart.
Rather than writing broad-brush slanders, how about identifying (and counter-arguing) at least one specific "lie" Moulitsas included in his column? It looked pretty factual to me.
Does anyone know about the PNAC? Bush is a puppet! Cheney, Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, Dan Quayle, wolfowitz, Perl? etc. they are the ones who run the country. Not a person. Bush runs the country no more than I do. He just has more power. Power corrupts. He is corrupt. Read, rebuilding ammericas defenses and search for "Pearl Harbor". They wanted 9/11. Bush got the memo and ignored it. Al Quaida was going to attack and he did nothing.
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