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Condi’s Southern Strategy

The secretary of State draws on her personal history to push Israelis and Palestinians together.

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  • Posted By: RomaA @ 02/11/2008 8:24:15 AM

    Hey , I'm from Israel. Next week I have a seen-unseen in this article.
    I'v searched it on the net and found it here.
    It's just funny how much stupid retards replay here.
    THE ONLY WAY to know what really happens here in Israel, is by living here, and seeing what are Israelis like and what are palestinians like.
    Oh and by the way if anyone will start talking about his religion *** , save it, im an atheist, and if you think about flaming me for being a jew? (yeah u must be a real moron) , save this too, im not even a jew.
    I know that what I am about to say will not influence you ,but yet, Arabs , are happy for every dead child, they even celebrate it and give candies to their children.. don't you think it f****ing sick ? but noooo
    all you americans and europeans pitty them.
    I cannot say every Israeli soldier is a good person, some of them are idiots , yes, some of them might hurt children or people in puropose, but most of the people serving in the army are following orders, and there was never an order to hurt innocent people in purpose.

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 11/21/2007 8:53:56 PM

    Mr. Micheal Hirsh, you.KNOW WHAT WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF YOU AND YOUR ARTICLES? IF YOU DON'T THEN KNOW IT NOW. YOU ARE A CRIMINALLY MOTIVATED JOURNALIST MUST BE ENJOYING LOT OF BENIFITS GIVEN BY YOUR INCEST FOLLOWERS INCLUDING THEIR MOTHERS. YOUR DAMN UGLY FACE DEPICTS THAT YOU ARE A MOTHER *** YOUR SELF.


    WHERE HAVE YOU LEARN'T THAT IN JOURNALISM JOURNALISTS ARE TAUGHT TO HIDE THE TRUTH YOU MISERAL PET OF THE JEWS *** IDIOT. EARNING MONEY YOU RASCLE. NEXT TIME YOU COME WITH ARTICAL MAKE SURE YOU DON'T THE SAME MISTKE AS YOU HAVE IN THIS ARTICLE OK YOU SON OF A ***. DC HAPPY

  • Posted By: kittendestroyer @ 11/20/2007 1:07:32 PM

    "Abbas is going to have to accept a long-term Israeli military presence in his new state..."
    The author of this article is either under the payroll of AIPAC or is a zionist sympathiser. Mr. Micheal Hirsh, i have a question for you. How many palestinian children have died this year under the gun of the isreali occupation army and how many isreali children have died due to the crude home made missiles launched from gaza which you so claim poses a grave threat to the existance of isreal? in case you didnt know the ration is around 9:1. That is, 9 palestinian children die for every single isreali child. Now, which party do you think needs protection from the other. And how come you dont care to mention the illegal isreali settlements that are increasing in size every single day, gobbling up palestinian homes and land. Mr. Hirsh, i wonder how you go to sleep, knowing that you deliberately bias your article in favour of an immoral and illegal occupation. But then again, the upside is probably your fat AIPAC paycheck....

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 11/20/2007 5:40:32 AM

    IT IS AMAZING TO FIND JEWS CLAIMING TO BE A CHOSEN COMMUNITY AMONG GOD'S CREATION. IS IT BECAUSE OF GOD'S CHOSEN COMMUNITY THE JEWS THAT ADOLF HITLER SACRIFICED THEM? DOES THAT THEN SOLVES THE WHOLE ISSUE OF ADOLF HITLER 'S KILLING OF JEWS.? DOES THAT THEN MEAN, WHAT ADOLF HITLER DID WAS EXACTLY WHAT GOD ORDERED HIM TO DO.? WHY THEN SO MUCH OF HUE AND CRY AGAINST ADOLF HITLER.

    MY ONLY QUESTION TO MISS RICE IS THIS IF YOU BELIEVE GOD THEN FOLLOW ADOLF HITLER AND SACRIFICE THESE GOD CURSED NATION OF ISRAEL THE OF SPRINGS OF THE KILLERS OF HOLY PROPHET JESUS (PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL )THE JEWS COMMUNITY . YOU RICE ACCEPTED THE HOLY PROPHET JESUS(PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL ) TO BE YOUR GOD . PEOPLE OF ISRAEL KILLED THE GOD THEIR CLAIM TOMTHE EFFECT PROVE SUFFICENTLY WHY GOD KILLERS WERE CURSED.BY GOD HIMSELF THESE JEWS WERE DEFINITLY CHOSEN BY GOD TO GO TO HELL. LET ANY SON OF JEW SHOW ANY WHERE IN HOLY BIBLE AND IN ORIGINAL SCRIPT OF HOLY INGIL , JESUS(PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL) CLAIMED HIMSELF AS GOD AND ASKED HIS FOLLOWERS TO WORSHIP HIM AND THAT WHERE IN THESE TWO HOLY BOOKS HE CLAIMED TO BE DEVINE. THEN IF hOLY PROPHET WAS TRUELY GOD THEN HOW COULD THESE JEWS CRUCIFY A GOD.? THE CHRISTIANS BETTER WAKE UP AND READ THE ORIGINAL SCRIPTS OF INGIL AND THE BIBLE . THE POPE TOO MUST GO THROUGH THESE TWO HOLY BOOK AND TELL THE CHRISTIAN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HOLY PROPHET JESUS (PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL) THAT HE WAS HUMAN, WAS ONE OF THE CHOSEN POWERFUL MESSENGER OF GOD WHO PREACHED TO WORSHIP GOD THE ONLY ONE NOT HIM.AND THAT HOLY PROPHET WAS NO GOD. THAT WHAT EVER MIRACLES HE PERFORMED WAS ON ORDERS OF GOD AS HOLY PROPHET MOAZEZ DID TOO, GOD SAID ANY PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN TRINITY WILL INVARIABLY BE PUNISHED AND WILL BE PLACE IN HELL. SO I CONCLUDE BY SAYING THAT LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING, I REQUEST PEOPLE TO STOP RELIGIOUS USE AND THE USE OF SELF DEFENSE AS AN EXCUSE TO JUSTIFY WILFULLY KILLING PEOPLE TO EXTRACT ILLIGAL BENIFITS WITH THE HELP OF A PARTICULAR SUPER POWER. THE WORLD NOW HAVE NO SYMPATHY WITH THESE LIAR ANY MORE, RATHER THEY ARE DISGUSTED WITH THEIR NEFAROUS INHUMAN ACTIVITIES AND WHITE LIES.
    D C HAPPY.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 11/19/2007 10:34:53 PM

    Condi Rice will fail. The whole thing is a farce. The US is biased, always in favour of Israel, how can the Palestinians agree? But if the US is fair , then Israel would not agree. If by chance both the leaders agree ( which means both of them are stupid), then their people will not agree. So why not let it be? Leave them on their own to resolve their own differences, may be by completely anhilating each other, then they will come to their senses.

  • Posted By: fjb11 @ 11/19/2007 6:10:06 PM

    It is easy to see that if the Palistinians were more powerful negotiators they would not be forced to accept such a raw deal.

  • Posted By: fjb11 @ 11/19/2007 6:02:52 PM

    If the Palestinians were more powerfuf nedotiators they would not have to accept such a raw deal

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 11/19/2007 3:45:22 PM

    IT IS AMAZING TO FIND JEWS CLAIMING TO BE A CHOSEN COMMUNITY AMONG GOD'S CREATION. IS IT BECAUSE OF GOD'S CHOSEN COMMUNITY THE JEWS THAT ADOLF HITLER SACRIFICED THEM? DOES THAT THEN SOLVES THE WHOLE ISSUE OF ADOLF HITLER 'S KILLING OF JEWS.? DOES THAT THEN MEAN, WHAT ADOLF HITLER DID WAS EXACTLY WHAT GOD ORDERED HIM TO DO.? WHY THEN SO MUCH OF HUE AND CRY AGAINST ADOLF HITLER.

    MY ONLY QUESTION TO MISS RICE IS THIS IF YOU BELIEVE GOD THEN FOLLOW ADOLF HITLER AND SACRIFICE THESE GOD CURSED NATION OF ISRAEL THE OF SPRINGS OF THE KILLERS OF HOLY PROPHET JESUS (PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL )THE JEWS COMMUNITY . YOU RICE ACCEPTED THE HOLY PROPHET JESUS(PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL ) TO BE YOUR GOD . PEOPLE OF ISRAEL KILLED THE GOD THEIR CLAIM TOMTHE EFFECT PROVE SUFFICENTLY WHY GOD KILLERS WERE CURSED.BY GOD HIMSELF THESE JEWS WERE DEFINITLY CHOSEN BY GOD TO GO TO HELL. LET ANY SON OF JEW SHOW ANY WHERE IN HOLY BIBLE AND IN ORIGINAL SCRIPT OF HOLY INGIL , JESUS(PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL) CLAIMED HIMSELF AS GOD AND ASKED HIS FOLLOWERS TO WORSHIP HIM AND THAT WHERE IN THESE TWO HOLY BOOKS HE CLAIMED TO BE DEVINE. THEN IF hOLY PROPHET WAS TRUELY GOD THEN HOW COULD THESE JEWS CRUCIFY A GOD.? THE CHRISTIANS BETTER WAKE UP AND READ THE ORIGINAL SCRIPTS OF INGIL AND THE BIBLE . THE POPE TOO MUST GO THROUGH THESE TWO HOLY BOOK AND TELL THE CHRISTIAN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HOLY PROPHET JESUS (PEACE BE UPON HIS SOUL) THAT HE WAS HUMAN, WAS ONE OF THE CHOSEN POWERFUL MESSENGER OF GOD WHO PREACHED TO WORSHIP GOD THE ONLY ONE NOT HIM.AND THAT HOLY PROPHET WAS NO GOD. THAT WHAT EVER MIRACLES HE PERFORMED WAS ON ORDERS OF GOD AS HOLY PROPHET MOAZEZ DID TOO, GOD SAID ANY PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN TRINITY WILL INVARIABLY BE PUNISHED AND WILL BE PLACE IN HELL. SO I CONCLUDE BY SAYING THAT LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING, I REQUEST PEOPLE TO STOP RELIGIOUS USE AND THE USE OF SELF DEFENSE AS AN EXCUSE TO JUSTIFY WILFULLY KILLING PEOPLE TO EXTRACT ILLIGAL BENIFITS WITH THE HELP OF A PARTICULAR SUPER POWER. THE WORLD NOW HAVE NO SYMPATHY WITH THESE LIAR ANY MORE, RATHER THEY ARE DISGUSTED WITH THEIR NEFAROUS INHUMAN ACTIVITIES AND WHITE LIES.
    D C HAPPY.

  • Posted By: Nallenn @ 11/19/2007 1:47:02 PM

    My only question to Miss Rice, is this. Do you believe in the word of God? With that I pray that the USA continue it's support To Israel, remember that Israel is the chosen people. It states in the Bible not in these exact words, that I will curse those that curse thee, and bless those that bless thee; talking about His chosen people (Israel).

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 11/19/2007 2:46:18 AM

    FIRST OF ALL RICE IS TO BE ASKED WHETHER SHE REALLY WANTS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE. THEN PUT HER IN LINE WITH THE UNIVERSAL LIAR???S STATE SECRETARY???S POSITION AND ASK HER IF SHE DID SAY THE TRUTH. WHY? BECAUSE NONE IN ARAB WORLD WOULD BELIEVE BUSH AND HIS ASSOCIATES EVEN IF THEY BLEED TO PROVE THAT THEY SINCERELY WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM..

    IT IS BUSH AND SHE WHO DIVIDED THE PALESTINIAN AND NOW WANTS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE, BUT HOW? IF ONE HALF ACCEPTS THE OTHER HALF WILL REJECT WOULD THAT BE SOLVING THE ISSUE.

    CONDILEEZA RICE IS A VERY BAD OMEN FOR USA. DURING HER TENURE THE WHOLE WORLD TURNED AGAINST USA AND THE RELATION BETWEEN RUSSIA REVERTED TO OLD DAYS OF COLD WAR. SHE ENTERED THE OFFICE AS AN EXPERT ON RUSSIAN POLITICS. I SAW HER BEING ELBOWED OUT OF MOSCOW, LAST TIME SHE WENT TO MEET PUTIN ON ESTABLISHMENT OF MISSILE BASES IN EU STATES. HER POLITICAL ACHIEVEMENTS IF AT ALL DEPENDED MOSTLY ON ARSANAL POWER THREAT THAT TOO SUFFERED HEAVILY TO HAVE ANY EFFECT ON IRAN.

    AMERICA HAD BEEN A BIG MEDIATING FACTOR IN ISRAEL AND PALESTINIAN ISSUE BUT NOW NO MORE. AMERICA IS LOOKED DOWN AS A STOOGE OF ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, SO HOW CAN RICE SOLVE THIS ISSUE.

    LET ME MENTION HERE, HAVING ANALYSED THE TOTAL ISSUE SOME POLITICAL ANALYSTS ARE OF THE STRONG OPINION THAT THE EXISTANCE OF ISRAEL IN ARAB LAND IS BEING MADE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT ONLY BECAUSE OF AMERICA???S BLIND ON SIDED SUPPORT TO ISRAELIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. THE WHOLE WORLD OPINION IS VERY MUCH AGAINST ISRAEL BECAUSE OF SHOWING A BIG THUMB TO UNO???S SECURITY RESOLUTIONS.

    NO COUNTRY EXCEPT USA NOW SUPPORTS THE NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES OF ISRAEL. INTELLIGENTIAS ARE OF THE OPINION THAT PALESTIANIAN SOLUTION IS A FAR CRY AND WOULD BE SOLVED BY THE ILLIMINATION OF ONE OF THE PARTY, NOT IN FAR DISTANT TIME FROM NOW.
    D C HAPPY

  • Posted By: spatsy @ 11/18/2007 2:41:09 PM

    It is refreshing to know that Condi and bush both solve problems by childhood experiences. I think bush learned about Germany going into Poland and Japan attacking Pearl Harbor by listening to adults diacuss it and so what is wrong with the USA takiing time from busy schedules to attack iraq without provocation. Damn, childhood works every time. It is unfortunate Madison, Jefferson Hamilton, Jay, Franklin and others grew to studied adulthood before defending from "the empire".

    Pushted two countries together? damn good politics. OK condi, lets talk about John Locke a bit and suggest your language is pretty poor but your idea of childhood decisionsis worse.
    at is why a local judge told me she thought she had divorced everyone in Tucson at least once.

  • Posted By: spatsy @ 11/18/2007 2:23:55 PM

    I am always surprised by how simple issues become when you do not know what to do. Go back to childhood and believe adulthood is nothing more than an extension of that. Well, I am sure all of us can trot out such things. I was a young lad when Germany invaded Poland, just because they wanted to. I was a bit older when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, just because they eanted to. Then Korea to help some of them, then Vier Nam, to support some of them, and the USA, that is us, invaded Iraq just because the PNAC and bush wanted to. Condi, is there mush difference between Germany, Japan, and the US? Come on now, just go back to your childhood and see if they do not look the same. Nothing like peresonal experience to give wisdom, right?
    At 78 yoa, I have to admit not knowing many peoples actions that can equal bush's and your own, both coming from childhood fantasies, Thank goodness Madison Jefferson, Jay Franklin, Hamilton and the like went beyond their childhood to create a nation bush is determined to return to savages and which you do not understand using your childhood as you do. What went into creating a nation do you think, children.? Yes, of course, Mission Accomplished and my childhood will solve great problems. The apple doesn'dt fall far from the bush tree does it. I hoope his daddy dosen't read this and get angry I am picking on his son and his friend.

  • Posted By: thomasjeffersonrules @ 11/18/2007 12:39:49 PM

    Perhaps if our government were not so forgetful of the atrocities that the Zionist government occupying Israel have committed and make them accountable (a word this administration knows nothing of) and force them to let the Palestinians have the right of return, maybe there would start to be some peace. Until this country changes it's policies where the Israeli government are concerned, there never will be any peace. Americans are starting to wake up to this fact that the U.S. lets the Zionists get away literally with murder and will never have to suffer any consequences. We will always use our veto power at the U.N. when anyone tries to get justice for the Arabs. No wonder they hate us. We have double standards and BushCo is not afraid to use them!.

  • Posted By: betz55 @ 11/18/2007 10:58:32 AM

    Listen, Israel by word is divide and conquer, that is why they have carved up the west bank in "cantons". If the situation was reversed do you really think the Israeli's would settle for living in bantustans/cantons? Absolutely not. Furthermore, the israeli's will not do ANYTHING until Rice says, stop the settlements or we will cut off or reduce you aid to Israel. This not - Abbas is going to have to accept a long-term Israeli military presence in his new state - is ridiculous and rubbish. The 'security' areas that Israel wants should come out of THEIR land, not the Palestinians land. It's preposterous and presumptuous to say the Palestinians will have to accept this, Would the Israeli's? Hell no !

  • Posted By: larnell62 @ 11/18/2007 10:38:57 AM

    "I've always been struck how the historical reading of the civil-rights movement is that the nonviolent, peaceful way that it ended happened almost as if it were inevitable," she says. It scares me that a person as intelligent as Secy Rice would make a statement such as this. First of all I didn't know that the Civil Rights Movement had ended. How did that turn out? Secondly with race rrelations being what they are and the civil rights of citizens being trounced on everyday should we or do we really want to parade out the Civil Rights Movement as a model of success to the Israelis and the Palestinians; what lessons would they learn from this. If this is the plan Secy Rice maybe everyone should stay away from Annapolis, although it is beautiful there this time of year.

  • Posted By: larnell62 @ 11/18/2007 10:34:04 AM

    "I've always been struck how the historical reading of the civil-rights movement is that the nonviolent, peaceful way that it ended happened almost as if it were inevitable," she says. " This statement from a person as intelligent as Secy Rice scares me becasue it shows that she may be out of touch. When did the Civil Rights Movement end? How did it come out. And if race relations in the United States are a model she wants to parade before the Israelis and Palestinians tehn maybe everyone should save their time and money and not atttend Annapolis, although it is beautiful there this tie of year.

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 11/18/2007 9:53:55 AM


    FIRST OF ALL RICE IS TO BE ASKED WHETHER SHE REALLY WANTS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE. THEN PUT HER IN LINE WITH THE UNIVERSAL LIAR???S STATE SECRETARY???S POSITION AND ASK HER IF SHE DID SAY THE TRUTH. WHY? BECAUSE NONE IN ARAB WORLD WOULD BELIEVE BUSH AND HIS ASSOCIATES EVEN IF THEY BLEED TO PROVE THAT THEY SINCERELY WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM..

    IT IS BUSH AND SHE WHO DIVIDED THE PALESTINIAN AND NOW WANTS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE, BUT HOW? IF ONE HALF ACCEPTS THE OTHER HALF WILL REJECT WOULD THAT BE SOLVING THE ISSUE.

    CONDILEEZA RICE IS A VERY BAD OMEN FOR USA. DURING HER TENURE THE WHOLE WORLD TURNED AGAINST USA AND THE RELATION BETWEEN RUSSIA REVERTED TO OLD DAYS OF COLD WAR. SHE ENTERED THE OFFICE AS AN EXPERT ON RUSSIAN POLITICS. I SAW HER BEING ELBOWED OUT OF MOSCOW, LAST TIME SHE WENT TO MEET PUTIN ON ESTABLISHMENT OF MISSILE BASES IN EU STATES. HER POLITICAL ACHIEVEMENTS IF AT ALL DEPENDED MOSTLY ON ARSANAL POWER THREAT THAT TOO SUFFERED HEAVILY TO HAVE ANY EFFECT ON IRAN.

    AMERICA HAD BEEN A BIG MEDIATING FACTOR IN ISRAEL AND PALESTINIAN ISSUE BUT NOW NO MORE. AMERICA IS LOOKED DOWN AS A STOOGE OF ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, SO HOW CAN RICE SOLVE THIS ISSUE.

    LET ME MENTION HERE, HAVING ANALYSED THE TOTAL ISSUE SOME POLITICAL ANALYSTS ARE OF THE STRONG OPINION THAT THE EXISTANCE OF ISRAEL IN ARAB LAND IS BEING MADE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT ONLY BECAUSE OF AMERICA???S BLIND ON SIDED SUPPORT TO ISRAELIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. THE WHOLE WORLD OPINION IS VERY MUCH AGAINST ISRAEL BECAUSE OF SHOWING A BIG THUMB TO UNO???S SECURITY RESOLUTIONS.

    NO COUNTRY EXCEPT USA NOW SUPPORTS THE NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES OF ISRAEL. INTELLIGENTIAS ARE OF THE OPINION THAT PALESTIANIAN SOLUTION IS A FAR CRY AND WOULD BE SOLVED BY THE ILLIMINATION OF ONE OF THE PARTY, NOT IN FAR DISTANT TIME FROM NOW.
    D C HAPPY

  • Posted By: gkintx @ 11/17/2007 11:54:49 PM

    Why would the Israelis and Palestinians listen to the brainless mouthpiece of a unpopular (understatement) lame-duck president whom the world hates?

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