How to Beat Hillary (Next) November

Karl Rove is ridiculous. The only decent thing he's provided is fodder for all the political satirists. At least some people are able to to turn him into something people can enjoy. Like Harry Shearer's music videos on My Damn Channel, if you haven't seen it, check out Turd Blossom. http://www.mydamnchannel.com/Harry_Shearer/Music_Videos/TurdBlossomSpecial_838.aspx

And one way to beat McCain would be to pull out all the garbage Karl Rove threw at him during the Senator's bid against George Bush. He knows so much about why Mr. McCain must not be president!

Crooks, murderers and war mongerers - the Republican Party is due for defeat and if they win, it will be because the Clintons have cooked a deal with the GOP/RNC or Bushes to make sure that the Black Man doesn't win (the Liberal)... and most Americans will be easily convinced not to change horses "while we're fighting two Arab countries" as one guy wrote on another messag board. OOooh, I'm so scared, mustn't "change horses in midstream" when the battles are really due to our own Administration's incompetence. How many deaths does George Bush have on his hands? Let's see - the several thousand who were killed in 9/11 happened on the Republican watch; the inept and failed capture of Osama Bin Laden that never happened has caused Al-Quaida to grow in Iraq and kill thousands of US tropps; but how many innocent war victims have we displaced from their homes, making their country so unsafe that they can no longer lead a normal life? How many innocent Iraqis has Bush killed through our terrible policies? How many Afghanis have we accidentally bombed, how many children have we accidentally killed or wounded? How many troops has Bush inadverantly (but intentionally through his policies) wounded or caused to commit suicide?

As a nation, we have lost our stature, our dignity and our honor - due to Bush's Administration, policies, poor choices and to your advice Mr. Rove. And is this war in Iraq just for the oil? Why the hell didn't you just buy it on the open market and save us all the TRILLIONS of DOLLARS in debt that our children and their children will still be paying off to fight this no-win war? There is nothing to be encouraged by this Iraqi venture; we are not going to see "victory" there. The best possible solution seems to me (and I'm certainly no expert either) to be to try and extricate our troops from that part of the world and make some kind of reparations for the sereral million homeless - either via the United Nations or some direct aid from us... But that won't line the pockets of the KBRs, the BearingPoints, the Saudis, the Bush Family and their buddies - so it'll never happen on the Republican watch.

When is Carl here going to be proscecuted for his crimes and now a recently uncovered connection with REZKO in Chicago?

Mr. Rove, you are giving advice to all the candidates. It doesn't seem fair that you've got this column when by rights you should be being investigated and perhaps/probably prosecuted. What's up with that? You're a savvy sunofagun but it's kind of depressing that you're in such a prominent role when a black man would have been jailed for what you (allegedly) did by now.

November 27th seems so long ago.

Rove's classic passive-aggressive approach is seriously flawed because it presumes that the American people will be stupid enough to fall for his tap-dance again; the "conventional wisdom" concerning Hillary Clinton is that she will not win the Democratic nomination, because, statistically, it is highly improbable that she will do so. Against Barack Obama, John McCain will need a similar strategy as the one Rove describes; but the chances are it will not beat Obama as it would Hillary. As to the matter of ethics and integrity, the profile of Karl Rove is splattered with blood and mud from his years as a Bush tactician, rendering him untrustworthy. Obama's mettle and intelligence have been plainly demonstrated as a much needed cure for the Rove-driven insanity of the last eight years.

Rove's classic passive-aggressive approach is seriously flawed because it presumes that the American people will be stupid enough to fall for his tap-dance again; the "conventional wisdom" concerning Hillary Clinton is that she will not win the Democratic nomination, because, statistically, it is highly improbable that she will do so. Against Barack Obama, John McCain will need a similar strategy as the one Rove describes; but the chances are it will not beat Obama as it would Hillary. As to the matter of ethics and integrity, the profile of Karl Rove is splattered with blood and mud from his years as a Bush tactician, rendering him untrustworthy. Obama's mettle and intelligence have been plainly demonstrated as a much needed cure for the Rove-driven insanity of the last eight years.

Not Stupid, you are acting very much against your name. You can't change the rules in the middle, because it suits you. Did you read this article or do you just post your junk on every article. Rove is saying something and although I think he one of the biggest goofballs in history, he made a lot of things happen during the last eight years and he has something here.

Maybe he is saying one thing but if you look at underneath, he is saying the Hillary is a calculating, cold and possibly dangerous person. I wouldn't like her working on the little girls cookie drive because if you didn't buy any, you would probably be ostracized from the neighborhood protection society.

She has learned one side of the political equation, be ruthless, pick your friends and your enemys and never let them out of your sight. This side is one that works to promote and prolong their own existence in the political arena. There is another side, which works to form relationship and to mutually promote those relationships and those issues presented by those relationships toward the better good.

It is something to be watched, since she is falling behind on the vote and delegates, she is now trying to make an end run and get her way by persuading the super delegates that she has more to offer than the lobbyists they are currently listening to. She is showing a complete contempt for the democratic process. Her version is to try every means possible to try to get your own way, like (best two out of three, oh no, well lets try the best three out of five).

The way you beat anyone like this is to keep your own ethics in, not go to extremes that compromise your own integrity and play by the rules. State your issues clearly and loudly and do not be disturbed or misdirected by the noise coming from around you.

If you are driving toward a fire, you do not stop and kick at the dogs chasing the firetruck.

Do we really care about what ROVE says? Besides, all the REPUBS have to do is say VOTE AGAINST THAT NASTY DEMOCRAT and all the little lemmings will throw our country's future over the cliff!

Do we really care about what ROVE says? Besides, all the REPUBS have to do is say VOTE AGAINST THAT NASTY DEMOCRAT and all the little lemmings will throw our country's future over the cliff!

The DNC isn't being fair.

First, the "agreement" the candidates signed says nothing about not counting votes or delegates:

WHEREAS, over a year ago, the Democratic National Committee established a 2008 nominating calendar;

WHEREAS, this calendar honors the racial, ethnic, economic and geographic
diversity of our party and our country;

WHEREAS, the DNC also honored the traditional role of retail politics early in the
nominating process, to ensure that money alone will not determine our
presidential nominee;

WHEREAS, it is the desire of Presidential campaigns, the DNC, the states and
the American people to bring finality, predictability and common sense to the
nominating calendar.

THEREFORE, I _______________, Democratic Candidate for President, pledge
I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential
election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa,
Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as ???campaigning??? is defined by the
rules and regulations of the DNC. It does not include activities specifically
related to raising campaign resources such as fundraising events or the hiring of
fundraising staff.



Second, the bigger story is IA, NH and SC also violated Rule 11 by moving their caucuses/primaries up further than was allowed. Those three states did not get any punishment as a result.

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5465



Third, those three states' democratic parties received significant contributions from Obama's Hope PAC. Obama handed out more than $180,000 from His HOPE PAC to local Democratic groups and candidates in the key early-voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. The bulk of donations from Obama's PAC to state and local candidates this year went to Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. In addition, there were more than $60,000 in donations to national candidates in those same states, including $9,000 for Rep. Paul W. Hodes, the first member of Congress from New Hampshire to endorse Obama earlier this year. Hodes, who is Obama's N.H. co-chair, received Hopefund Inc. funds on June 15, 2007, endorsed Obama on July 26, 2007, and received additional funds on September 27, 2007.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama%27s_contributions_to_campaign_endorsers



While the punishment levied on MI and FL is within the DNC rules, it is more harsh than usual, and by ignoring IA, NH and SC violations the DNC has unequally and unfairly punished MI and FL voters to give Obama an advantage.

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5465


Fair is fair, the DNC must count ALL of the votes and ALL of the delegates. The DNC has already established that taking away the delegates is not appropriate for this violation because they didn't take away SC, IA and NH delegates. The only reason to take away FL and MI delegates is so they can give the nomination to Obama.

SEX DISCRIMINATION????

Hillary Clinton supporters should all email the Democratic party and tell them to count ALL the votes and the delegates. They can't have one rule for IA, SC and NH and a different rule for FL and MI.

Go to http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contactissues and send the DNC an email letting them know that fair is fair and they must count ALL the votes.

Why doesn't Obama want to tax the windfall the oil companies have received? That would keep the road construction and bridge repair going next year. It's already funded this year.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_oil_spill.html

Obama says, "I don???t take money from oil companies."

Technically, that's true, since a law that has been on the books for more than a century prohibits corporations from giving money directly to any federal candidate. But that doesn???t distinguish Obama from his rivals in the race.

We find the statement misleading:

* Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

* Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.

How fair is the DNC being?

First, the "agreement" the candidates signed says nothing about not counting votes or delegates:

WHEREAS, over a year ago, the Democratic National Committee established a 2008 nominating calendar;

WHEREAS, this calendar honors the racial, ethnic, economic and geographic
diversity of our party and our country;

WHEREAS, the DNC also honored the traditional role of retail politics early in the
nominating process, to ensure that money alone will not determine our
presidential nominee;

WHEREAS, it is the desire of Presidential campaigns, the DNC, the states and
the American people to bring finality, predictability and common sense to the
nominating calendar.

THEREFORE, I _______________, Democratic Candidate for President, pledge
I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential
election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa,
Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as ???campaigning??? is defined by the
rules and regulations of the DNC. It does not include activities specifically
related to raising campaign resources such as fundraising events or the hiring of
fundraising staff.



Second, the bigger story is IA, NH and SC also violated Rule 11 by moving their caucuses/primaries up further than was allowed. Those three states did not get any punishment as a result.

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5465



Fair is fair, count all the votes, count all the delegates.

funny that newsweek is reposting an article it first posted in November 2007.

Why I support Hillary Clinton: helped establish the State Children's Health Insurance Program and the Adoption and Safe Families Act; attorney for the newly founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge; a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children; published the scholarly articles "Children's Policies: Abandonment and Neglect" in 1977 and "Children's Rights: A Legal Perspective" in 1979;co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986???1992); (1979???1981, 1983???1992), she served as the chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees; introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy; Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984; from 1987 to 1991 she chaired the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession, which addressed gender bias in the law profession and induced the association to adopt measures to combat it and was twice named by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, in 1988 and in 1991; helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice; 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act; in her September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in the People's Republic of China itself, declaring "that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights" and resisting Chinese pressure to soften her remarks; She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan; She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries;from 1995 to 2004, she brought together women from communities, Catholic & Protestant, to meet & work together toward a common goal of peace in N. Ireland.

How to Beat Hillary? Finally! With a stick of course!

Hillary is more concerned with her poltical career than voters. Hence, her support for the gas tax holiday which will cut 300,000 construction jobs and increase the already dangerous bridge and road conditions. The American Society of Civil Engineers and most economists say that the gas holiday will just increase gas company profits!

Obama speaks the truth the to voters. We need this now more than ever.

Hillary is more concerned with her poltical career than voters. Hence, her support for the gas tax holiday which will cut 300,000 construction jobs and increase the already dangerous bridge and road conditions. The American Society of Civil Engineers and most economists say that the gas holiday will just increase gas company profits!

Obama speaks the truth the to voters. We need this now more than ever.

Hillary is more concerned with her poltical career than voters. Hence, her support for the gas tax holiday which will cut 300,000 construction jobs and increase the already dangerous bridge and road conditions. The American Society of Civil Engineers and most economists say that the gas holiday will just increase gas company profits!

Obama speaks the truth the to voters. We need this now more than ever.