How to Beat Hillary (Next) November

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  • Posted By: bigjimbo @ 11/19/2007 2:44:03 PM

    I have been a newsweek subscriber for quite a while and am now reconsidering. You have given a forum to a vile draft dodging cowardly piece of crap. I hope that rove can be reunited with dubya in a prison cell.

    • Posted By: SOCOM @ 11/19/2007 3:56:44 PM

      bigjimbo run as fast as you can, the world doesn't care about you or your opinion so it will be refreshing not to have to read that your sissy sensibilities have been offended and your going to cancel your subscription. Hurry up and do it you coward.

  • Posted By: merrilees @ 11/19/2007 2:55:59 PM

    Stix - Oh, now you???re going to incite some jealousy between Rove and Cheney. It???s Dick who likes to be called Darth Vader, dont you know.

  • Posted By: Stix @ 11/19/2007 2:47:40 PM

    Darth Rove on Newsweek. I love it. It gives a good balance to Markos Moulitsas. I know most of the Left thin that Karl Rove is evil and they call him Darth Rove and other interesting names. But he did not get the ire of the Left for being evil, he got it because he is effectve and is good at what he does. I think that the Republican candidate should listen to Rove and not just attack Hillary, but explain to the public who he is. where

  • Posted By: Stix @ 11/19/2007 2:45:13 PM

    Darth Rove on Newsweek. I love it. It gives a good balance to Markos Moulitsas. I know most of the Left thin that Karl Rove is evil and they call him Darth Rove and other interesting names. But he did not get the ire of the Left for being evil, he got it because he is effectve and is good at what he does. I think that the Republican candidate should listen to Rove and not just attack Hillary, but explain to the public who he is. where

  • Posted By: fgmartin @ 11/19/2007 2:28:00 PM

    Newsweek serves up a plate of spin from the master himself! Sad, sad, sad.

  • Posted By: merrilees @ 11/19/2007 2:27:15 PM

    Well, Newsweek, this is a pretty good turdblossom storm going on here. Looking forward to seeing if you will choose to ignore all this or tell Karl thanks but no thanks. By the way, in response to an earlier comment, the Animal Farm character Karl resembles most is Squealer, not Snowball.

  • Posted By: Whispers @ 11/18/2007 9:01:07 AM

    Let me get this straight, Greentree. Your friend was the only Republican non-lawyer in a family of Democratic lawyers? And he was allowed to roam around the White House all by himself and found a narcissistic shrine of Hillary photos?
    I'm calling bs here. Next time think up a less obvious lie.

    • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 11/19/2007 2:12:44 PM

      Whispers: You and I both! My dad has been a huge Repub fundraiser and volunteer for a very long time and he has never been givin run of the WH but this guy's friend is left all by his lonesome to explore? Not buying it!

  • Posted By: greentree @ 11/18/2007 8:48:37 AM

    A friend of mine who was the only Republican in a family of heavy-hitter Democratic fundraisers (they were all lawyers except him) was invited to dinner at the White House during the '90s. He told me that at one point, an aide offered him a private tour.

    When they were in Hillary's office after hours, the aide was paged to an urgent call and left for a couple of minutes. He said he suddenly realized he was all alone in Hillary Clinton's office! So he decided to look around. He noticed a little room off to the side. There was a huge picture of Hillary on the middle of the far wall, and it was surrounded by dozens of other photos. He assumed it was just photos of Hillary with celebrities and world leaders, as many prominent people might have. Then he realized that, no, they were all pictures of Hillary alone. He said he began laughing in astonishment as he realized that he was standing in a shrine...Hillary's shrine to herself!

    • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 11/19/2007 2:10:59 PM

      Yeah, your friend was left alone in the White House and given a chance to wander through Hillary Clinton's office. Now WHY do I find that more than a little hard to believe?

  • Posted By: Georgus101 @ 11/18/2007 12:19:35 AM

    These comments are proof Newsweek is a liberal rag. Nothing but liberal comments. What a bunch of kool-aid drinkers.

    • Posted By: Mark Adams @ 11/18/2007 1:37:24 AM

      70% of America is disgusted with Rove and the Brainless Resident he left in charge. Newsweek still hired the guy. Some Liberal rage this is . . . some liberal nation in fact. The only people drinking Kool Aide are the Bush cultists. Please leave the rest of us alone.

      • Posted By: Georgus101 @ 11/18/2007 2:13:45 AM

        Got it Comrad. By the way, your liberals are really getting it done in the Congress. Not. Loser mentality = loser results.

        • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 11/19/2007 2:00:05 PM

          I haven't heard that "Comrad" garbage in a couple of decades; the Soviet Union is gone and the world is not afraid of communism running rampant anymore. In fact, I would love to know just how Comrad applies to MarkAdams post. Can't see it.
          Aside from all of that, Congress is only a small fraction over half Democrat right now and most of the Repubs in it are toeing the presidents line right now. Kinda hard to get anything done when no one will work together.

        • Posted By: heldmyw @ 11/18/2007 8:29:08 AM

          You're not alone Georgus101. These SpellCheck-challenged ranters followed Markos Moulitsas over from DailyKos. This is how they behave. It's... a sickness, kind of like Tourette's Syndrome.

          They can't help it.

          • Posted By: freepatriot @ 11/19/2007 8:13:28 AM

            you mean there are two of you mouth breathers here ???

            about the "spell check"

            this comment format sucks

            I can only see two lines text, the first two

            so I got no way to see the errors my fat fingers make on the small keyboard

            by the way, how does it feel to be among the bottom 30% of the country, politically speaking, that is

            ohh look, moveon.org

            scary

        • Posted By: kitebro @ 11/18/2007 11:03:26 AM

          "Comrad"? How old are you? 12?

    • Posted By: fastaire @ 11/18/2007 2:51:22 PM

      I was about to say the same thing. You can tell the ideology of a magazine by reading its comments section. Had Rove written the same article in TIME, USA TODAY, ABC website, NBC website, CBS website you would have seen the same comments. These lemmings don't want a differing opinion. This just accentuates the need to beat Hillary in 2008 in my mind.

    • Posted By: kitebro @ 11/18/2007 10:53:58 AM

      Kool-aid drinkers? Why can't the GOP ever think of something original? Weve been callinhg members of the Bush Cult "Kool-ade drinkers" for years. We've been calling Bush "The credit-card president" for just as long. Now Bush is accusing Dems of that same thing. We love our country and hate seeing a Hitler emulator running it. If you wonder what I mean by that, compare "The Reichstag Fire Decree" to "The Patriot Act". I strongly suspect that you never will.

      • Posted By: fastaire @ 11/18/2007 2:46:24 PM

        I was going to say the same thing. You can tell the bias of a magazine by looking at its comments section. Had Rove written the same thing in TIME MAGAZINE, USA TODAY, ABC's website, NBC's website you would have seen the same types of liberal comments. Just proves conservatives are fighting a left wing media. These left wingers don't want a diverse opinion the "Their" magazine. We need to beat Hillary.

        more cl

  • Posted By: ferriferous @ 11/19/2007 2:00:05 PM

    I'm not all that fond of Hillary Clinton, but when I hear Rovian Cancer Karl even mentioning her or anyone else for that matter, particularly in a derogotory sense, they become more attractive to me with every breath I take. And, shoud I hear anything complementary about anyone from his lips, I just think NeoConFascist and remember the big three, Hitler, Mussolini, Hirohito and just move onto something more pleasant. John W.

  • Posted By: Vet24 @ 11/19/2007 12:25:09 AM

    I am totally amazed that Newsweek would allow a criminal of this stature to become a correspondent. This is on the level of letting Joseph Goebbels write columns about WWII. -Yea I went there, because if the fascist shoe fits. The idea of the Unitary Executive; The violations of the Presidential Records Act; The violations of the Hatch Act; The admission by Bush in several news conferences of violating the FISA law. I am dumbfounded that Rove and the whole lot of them have been allowed to continue to be left free on the streets let alone in government office.
    Karl sounds reasoned and even fairly reasonable in his writing, at least in this venue. But listen to him in friendly, partisan venues and see the result of his behind the curtain actions and it is plain that he is far from reasonable. Rove is the perfect example of the ???banality of evil???. As a Military retiree and Constitutionalist it saddens me to see him given this pulpit to do further harm to the Republic and our democracy.

    • Posted By: cmicah6:8 @ 11/19/2007 1:29:20 AM

      Your anology to Joseph Goebbels is right on the mark. This juxtaposition of opposing but not necessarily honest views is what we get from the so-called liberal media. Over the last thirty years the "right" raised so much hell about not being heard that mainstream news caved in. If television journalists would only feature the facts after opposing views are presented, the public may actually be informed, but they don't. I noticed CNN is especially bad with this practice. Wolf Blitzer is the king of "he said she said" without providing context or facts. Forget FOX. Most people no lonber read newspapers although I've noticed the same form of superficial reporting witht he AP news service. And conservative talk radio reaches and misinforms a large number of Americans. So what has happened is that political discourse has shifted to the right in this country, so much so that moderates now appear to be liberal. There is hope with the internet, however, and I'm encouraged by many of the posts on this board. Seems those reading this article are informed, except for the loyal 25 to 30 percenters who believe everything coming from the White House. Information is power.

      But I'm boggled by why Rove and others in this administration have not been brought to justice. As you, I really fear for our nation and our system of government, the checks and balances. Too much power and secrecy surround this administration which has led us into a war of choice against a sovereign nation rather than fighting terrorism and the cause thereof. In fact, this "war on terrorism" has been the vehicle by which the current executive has been accumilating power.

      • Posted By: acitizen @ 11/19/2007 1:57:32 PM

        It is always interesting to see how many people fail to crasp criminality in the constitutional sense. True, there is legislation (for example, FISA) that has been enacted to cover certain areas. But the whole point of the constitutional system is that the mere fact of a statute does not guarantee constitutionality. The whole point of the three branches of government is that the branches balance each other out. Most that rant against unlimited executive power grant unlimited legislative power while making their arguments. For example, if Congress passed a law that said the President can't be of hispanic origin, that law would not stand.

        The point is, the mechanism for settling these issues is working as designed. The Legislature creates laws, the Executive administers them and the Judiciary rules on the interpretation of the laws in comport with the constitution. Not all interpretations of the laws are criminal, neither are all valid. Look at the latest in Government land use interpretations by local governments. Were those criminal? Is the interpretation of "public use" valid?"

        Finally, newsweek is clearly struggling, with Rove and Daily Kos writing for them, why would anyone expect journalism anymore.

  • Posted By: real conservative American @ 11/19/2007 1:38:09 PM

    dewcooper - the public remembers whitewater as a $60 million dollar witch hunt that turned up nothing, zero, not a thing that could be used to attack the President. your ability to recite god's own party talking points may get you on shammity and drugbaugh but it is not going to convince middle America.

    Your likley candidate is a 3 time divorcee with very bad employyee hiring skills who tried to serve up a known mob connected crook as homeland security sec. your nominee, against protest from all rational people, put the nyc emergency center into the exact place know to be a target for destruction and has enough funny contract kickback stories to make a major motion picture about.

    your party, under your party's leader, lied America into a useless war and spent, in the words of one of your party leaders, so insanely as to make drunken saliors seem reasonable.

    bring it on!

  • Posted By: dewcooper @ 11/19/2007 1:28:05 PM

    Don't we all really need to know why Hillary knowingly allowed her husband to sexually harass an intern\employee while she was first lady? Doesn't sound like she is much of a supporter of woman's rights. Though she was all for equality, given her relationship with Vince Foster.

    Why isn't the press asking her about her billing records at the Rose law firm? Doesn't anyone remember Travelgate? How about Donna Shelalie's world travel tour (of which both Hillary and Chelsea participated)? What about the $100,000 she made as a rookie investor? How about the renting out of the Lincoln bedroom? Or her relations with Chinese and Palistenian fund raisers? How about the continued mishandling of the terrorist attacks on Americans and America during her tenure as 'co-president'.

    Hillary is the lone person who make Bill look favorable.

    Hillary is the only

  • Posted By: Preston41 @ 11/19/2007 1:23:12 PM

    Rove, you magnificent bastard.

  • Posted By: Preston41 @ 11/19/2007 1:21:06 PM

    Rove, you magnificent bastard!

  • Posted By: MeMyselfEye @ 11/19/2007 1:07:49 PM

    I'm going to peruse Newsweek and take note of the advertisers and studiously avoid each and every ones' products.

  • Posted By: Loki1967 @ 11/19/2007 1:05:55 PM

    Mr Rove the world hopes you die a horrible grisly death. Lucifer is waiting for you to arrive downstairs.

  • Posted By: Loki1967 @ 11/19/2007 1:05:24 PM

    Mr Rove the world hopes you die a horrible grisly death. Lucifer is waiting for you to arrive downstairs.

  • Posted By: ThaddeusB @ 11/19/2007 12:58:13 PM

    Excellent analysis. And the candidate that best fits the bill - Mike Huckabee

  • Posted By: petediddy @ 11/19/2007 12:57:44 PM

    Mr. Rove, the GOP nominee you have just described, is Mike Huckabee. On every point- authentic on what he believes, optimistic, clear on the need for victory in Iraq, able to garner minority votes (48% of African American votes when he was governor of Arkanasas for over 10 years), issues important to families, dealing with the "health" problem, not "health-care" problem, etc. Huckabee's beat the Clinton machine before, too.

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