How to Beat Hillary (Next) November

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  • Posted By: thomasmcclure @ 12/27/2007 8:53:31 PM

    Andrea Sedlak, 12 years ago, spoke up for NOW women. What would she say now with a woman running? Or Carl, what would she say now that a woman is running? Like to meet Andrea to discuss woman in US?

  • Posted By: jurnei @ 12/26/2007 12:47:54 AM

    PU Disgraceful criminal for what you have done to this country

  • Posted By: jurnei @ 12/26/2007 12:47:13 AM

    This is beyond belief! I have been a Newsweek subscriber for 10 YEARS! The is the last person I would ever want to read! What a legacy of lying and manipulation and now Rove writes for Newsweek. I can't wait till the morning. I don't need to pay Newsweek to read this garbage. I think we have all had enough of it!

  • Posted By: jurnei @ 12/26/2007 12:46:59 AM

    This is beyond belief! I have been a Newsweek subscriber for 10 YEARS! The is the last person I would ever want to read! What a legacy of lying and manipulation and now Rove writes for Newsweek. I can't wait till the morning. I don't need to pay Newsweek to read this garbage. I think we have all had enough of it!

  • Posted By: jurnei @ 12/26/2007 12:45:38 AM

    This is beyond belief! I have been a Newsweek subscriber for 10 YEARS! The is the last person I would ever want to read! What a legacy of lying and manipulation and now Rove writes for Newsweek. I can't wait till the morning. I don't need to pay Newsweek to read this garbage. I think we have all had enough of it!

  • Posted By: jurnei @ 12/26/2007 12:42:04 AM

    This is beyond belief! I have been a Newsweek subscriber for 10 YEARS! The is the last person I would ever want to read! What a legacy of lying and manipulation and now Rove writes for Newsweek. I can't wait till the morning. I don't need to pay Newsweek to read this garbage. I think we have all had enough of it!

  • Posted By: Plinski21 @ 12/19/2007 11:03:29 AM

    I too cannot believe you would give a forum to the man most responsible for the divisive, hatemongering politics that we have to endure today and which candidates like Barack Obama are trying to move beyond. Having Rove on your pages poisons the rest of what I thought was a "news" magazine. I see now that journalists such as those at Newsweek are actually invested in continuing the politics of hatred. You've lost a 25-year reader forever.

  • Posted By: S. M. Peters @ 12/17/2007 2:55:19 PM

    Sleazy (and criminal) Rove has no place in the pages
    of Newsweek

    Dear Editors,

    I have absolutely no interest in the opinions of
    disgraced Bush operative Karl Rove. And I was
    surprised to find Newsweek giving this Bush crony a
    podium in its pages ("How to Beat Hillary (Next)
    November" Newsweek, 11/26/07,
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/71000).

    What expertise does he bring to the forum? --How to
    help elect someone who will run this country into the
    ground? Or start a bloody war with no end, based on
    lies? How to smear a primary-winning opponent with
    racist and false rumors of an extramarital child (his
    vindictive lies about McCain who defeated Bush in the
    2000 New Hampshire primary), or appeals to homophobia
    (false rumors against Ann Richards when Bush
    challenged her for Texas governor)? I???m sure the
    so-called Swiftboaters had a direct line to Rove in
    their distortion of John Kerry???s record in 2004.

    Freshly emerged from the dankest corridors of the
    White House, there is no way Rove is an objective
    observer of the 2008 election with no agenda of his
    own or ongoing ties to Republican interests. By all
    rights, Rove should be jailed for his part in the
    felony of revealing the identity of FBI agent Valerie
    Plame (and lying about it), as former Bush
    spokesperson Scott McClellan???s new books reveals.

    I???m also unpleasantly surprised that Newsweek editors
    let Rove quote an alleged voter???s off-color comment
    about Hillary Clinton. Since when is it okay to print
    a slur of a female political candidate ???that rhymes
    with witch???? Would Newsweek have printed a quote from
    a
    voter who referred to Bush, Giuliani or Cheney as
    ???something that rhymes with ???tricks??????? I seriously
    doubt it. I am not a Clinton supporter, but I found
    Rove???s choice of anecdotes sexist, tasteless and a
    further perpetuation of what he is really all
    about???the smear via proxy. Where is Newsweek???s quality
    control? As a journalist and a woman, I was offended
    and disgusted.

    We have this strange habit in our country of rewarding
    criminals, scoundrels and scumbags with media
    attention and podiums such as the column you have
    awarded Rove. In so doing, your publication becomes a
    tool of his vile machinations, and diminishes your own
    reputation in the process. Why don???t you instead lend
    your pages to someone with a more constructive vision
    for the future, instead of a bilious rogue from our
    nation???s recent shameful and dark past?

    As far as I???m concerned, this nation can???t be rid of
    the warmongering politics of Bush, Rove, Cheney et al
    quickly enough. Some may laud Rove as an architect of
    this Bush era; many more of us consider him a culprit.
    The time has come to flush away this sorry chapter of
    our nation???s history. You should do your part by
    canceling Rove???s column immediately. Until then, I
    have completely lost respect for your publication and
    will never pick it up again.

    Shame on you.

    S. M. Peters
    Seattle

  • Posted By: Enjay @ 12/08/2007 1:46:29 AM

    Why would you give print space to a man like Karl Rove? He is quite possibly a criminal and most certainly a liar. I welcome different opinions; however, you seem to be seeking a new low. This man's poor reputation and manipulation of the truth should keep him from any publication which strives to garner public respect.

  • Posted By: noddy @ 12/05/2007 1:22:17 AM

    Just when we thought Karl Rove was gone, you have helped to bring back, Mr.Editor. Sure he is controversial.. But he is a liar, fugitive from justice, and a destroyer of character. Tell me, if it were 65 years ago, would you have brought two controversal political personages to a debate, say Adolf Hitler and Winston Churchill? I would think that Fareed Zakaria, Jonanathan Alter, and Anna Quindlen should resign in protest. Then you wouldn't be so comfortable with Karl Rove, America's fascist.

  • Posted By: Newt @ 12/04/2007 2:23:35 PM

    Discuss this online: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/28/162114/27

  • Posted By: Newt @ 12/04/2007 2:15:58 PM

    Hillary Clinton is the GOP's best GOTV strategy
    Thank you, Karl Robe, for the wake up call to blue America. If Democrats want to win the 2008 presidency and, more importantly, achieve a landslide takeover of Congress next fall, we need a team that won???t stir up the negative passions of conservatives. Even with the Iraq war and lying, cheating and stealing (war profiteering and record oil profits) firmly tied to Bush Admin policies, the left wing response is dismal. The left simply doesn???t use its majority voting clout. Next year there is more at stake than just the presidency. Progressives have a potentially historic opportunity to take back the Senate in 2008. We need to be careful not to reinvigorate the faltering conservative movement with a bad choice in the Democratic primary. Democrats banking on failure in Iraq and awareness of what the disastrous Bush Admin policies have done to our country in the past six years support any candidate who says they???ll do things differently. Democrat contenders are riding the anti-war, anti-Bush movement. But savvy voters can proactively calculate how the election will go next year if our candidate strikes a hugely negative chord with Middle America. If Sen. Hillary Clinton wins the nomination she will inspire conservatives to vote as no one else could. Right-wingers don't just dislike her, they actively despise her! They'll vote in droves to ensure she doesn't win the presidency. Anyone but Hillary is the Republicans' best GOTV tactic, even more so than their anti-gay and anti-choice strategies that have spurred their followers to vote in the past. While at the polls, they???ll also vote for all those rubber-stamping Republican Senators that progressives would like to fire. For that matter, plenty of people would vote against Barack Obama simply because he???s black or against Bill Richardson because he???s Hispanic. While we should not dismiss either of them just because racism stands in their way, Democrats should be realistic about their prospects as number one on a presidential ticket.

    It???s time for progressives to face reality: A split vote between Obama and Edwards will likely result in a huge loss next fall. If progressives want to enact change in Congress to achieve true election reform, get big business out of our government and move to an independent Iraq, we need to decide on a team that can truly win, before the Democratic Primary occurs. If Molly Ivins were alive, perhaps we could ask her to publish her pick for president and vice president and try to create a solid voting block that way. She said, ???There are times when regular politics will not do, and this is one of those times.??? If Democrats can identify a winning team before the Primary elections, Edwards, Richardson, Obama or even Dennis Kucinich have a chance to do what???s right and team up NOW to help Democrats take back both the Senate and the presidency in 2008.
    Discuss this online: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/200

  • Posted By: Newt @ 12/04/2007 2:12:18 PM

    Hillary Clinton is the GOP's best GOTV strategy
    Thank you, Karl Robe, for the wake up call to blue America. If Democrats want to win the 2008 presidency and, more importantly, achieve a landslide takeover of Congress next fall, we need a team that won???t stir up the negative passions of conservatives. Even with the Iraq war and lying, cheating and stealing (war profiteering and record oil profits) firmly tied to Bush Admin policies, the left wing response is dismal. The left simply doesn???t use its majority voting clout. Next year there is more at stake than just the presidency. Progressives have a potentially historic opportunity to take back the Senate in 2008. We need to be careful not to reinvigorate the faltering conservative movement with a bad choice in the Democratic primary. Democrats banking on failure in Iraq and awareness of what the disastrous Bush Admin policies have done to our country in the past six years support any candidate who says they???ll do things differently. Democrat contenders are riding the anti-war, anti-Bush movement. But savvy voters can proactively calculate how the election will go next year if our candidate strikes a hugely negative chord with Middle America. If Sen. Hillary Clinton wins the nomination she will inspire conservatives to vote as no one else could. Right-wingers don't just dislike her, they actively despise her! They'll vote in droves to ensure she doesn't win the presidency. Anyone but Hillary is the Republicans' best GOTV tactic, even more so than their anti-gay and anti-choice strategies that have spurred their followers to vote in the past. While at the polls, they???ll also vote for all those rubber-stamping Republican Senators that progressives would like to fire. For that matter, plenty of people would vote against Barack Obama simply because he???s black or against Bill Richardson because he???s Hispanic. While we should not dismiss either of them just because racism stands in their way, Democrats should be realistic about their prospects as number one on a presidential ticket.

    It???s time for progressives to face reality: A split vote between Obama and Edwards will likely result in a huge loss next fall. If progressives want to enact change in Congress to achieve true election reform, get big business out of our government and move to an independent Iraq, we need to decide on a team that can truly win, before the Democratic Primary occurs. If Molly Ivins were alive, perhaps we could ask her to publish her pick for president and vice president and try to create a solid voting block that way. She said, ???There are times when regular politics will not do, and this is one of those times.??? If Democrats can identify a winning team before the Primary elections, Edwards, Richardson, Obama or even Dennis Kucinich have a chance to do what???s right and team up NOW to help Democrats take back both the Senate and the presidency in 2008.
    Discuss this online: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/200

  • Posted By: rewinn @ 12/03/2007 6:34:44 PM

    Why doesn't Newsweek get O.J. to comment on domestic violence?

    Karl Rove hasn't been convicted of anything ...yet. Neither has O.J.

  • Posted By: matty @ 12/03/2007 11:18:45 AM

    If you want to defeat a Rove-backed candidate, don't waste time taking his bait on things he and his candidate say or write. Ignore that stuff -- they want Dems to talk about the issues as Rove and company frame them. If you respond to their provocations, you are being predictable and doing their job for them.

    If they personnaly attack you and misrepresent what you have done or said, quickly and directly correct the record and then change the subject to things Republicans care about but their elected leaders have botched.

    Instead, simply bring up Mr. Rove's record -- he got an incompetent chief executive twice-elected to the highest office by downplaying his negatives (such as excessive cronyism and utter foolishness and naivete on national security and foreign policy). Which Party started the war with one-third the number of troops to tamp down violence if an insurgency emerged after the deposing of Saddam? Who urged the President to land on an aircraft carrier in May 2003 with a giant banner in the background saying "Mission Accomplished?" How many dead and maimed American service men and women have suffered that fate since the incompetent crew Mr. Rove helped bring to power set their foolish and incompetent war plan in motion? Simply repeat over and over -- the war was started and botched by Republicans. Say: if Republicans believe so strongly in the necessity of this war as essential to our national security, then why have they run away from asking the voters to pay for it --if the war is so essential then let's raise taxes on all the Americans not in uniform to contribute their small sacrifice to match the brave warriors defending our freedom. How obscene of the Republicans to deficit spend on the war and then expect the warriors when they come home to have to pay for it with the later tax hikes that will be required to pay for the war-created deficit. Either request everyone to bear the sacrifice of paying for it right now or stop blathering about the necessity of the war.

    Rove is very very talented at helping individuals who are incompent at governing in office so they can give govt. subsidies to their wealthy donors and blame the Democrats for the war mistakes they made while they were out of power. Dear voter, if you want another incompetent republican who runs successful campaigns but then then flops in running the country, then please, by all means, vote for whichever candidate Mr. Rove advises.

  • Posted By: CHELSARIFFIC @ 12/02/2007 4:12:17 PM

    "By explaining to voters why he deserves to be our next president, he will also make clear why that job should not go to another person named Clinton." Well Karl, it's ironic you feel that way considering the fact that you would be the expert on surnames within the presidency. Perhaps you meant the the business of being president should stay in the family? Because that certainly seemed to be your mantra during Bush's campaign. Lets all hope that Hilary's politcal advisor is as awesome at his job as you were in securing a hand-me-down presidency.

    There, ladies and gentlemen, is a sure way to beat anyone -- have Karl Rove at your side. Oh, and have an awesome lawyer that can talk his/her way out of any illegal or potential disparaging situation. And don't forget to come up with a scandal vague enough to open an investigation in which the progress reports trump any topics discussed in a debate or having anything to do with characteristics of the upcoming presidency. If what we know about Karl is held true, THAT'S how you win.

  • Posted By: CHELSARIFFIC @ 12/02/2007 3:44:16 PM

    Well, Karl, of course you'd be the go-to-guy on how to beat and unbeatable opponent. That's basically what your career -- as a whole, and disregarding your hush-hush politics and antics -- amounted to. "Do what you must in order to win," right Karl? In short, thanks for making it blatantly obvious to the American public just how egomaniacal you really are.

  • Posted By: lkrndu @ 12/02/2007 1:19:39 PM

    Didn't SAY she put the mirror there, eh, Karl? Who're yuh kiddin', dood? Lawlerly I have to say -- depends on what the meaning of say says I suppose. Or do you think we don't connect the dots you throw out? Or -- heavens, it gets worse -- surely you don't think we get it at all? 'Cuz if you did, what's the point of the mirror story.

    Say, you haven't been picking up your neighbors' papers while they're away -- and leaving them notes reminding them they owe you one, now have you?

  • Posted By: lkrndu @ 12/02/2007 1:17:39 PM

    Didn't SAY she put the mirror there, eh, Karl? Who're yuh kiddin', dood? Lawlerly I have to say -- depends on what the meaning of say says I suppose. Or do you think we don't connect the dots you throw out? Or -- heavens, it gets worse -- surely you don't think we get it at all? 'Cuz if you did, what's the point of the mirror story.

    Say, you haven't been picking up your neighbors' papers while they're away -- and leaving them notes reminding them they owe you one, now have you?

  • Posted By: meagain @ 12/02/2007 1:00:55 PM

    I am not even going to read this and I may cancel my subscription to Newsweek. Karl Rove has proved himself to be a lying , vindictive egomaniac.and perhaps a criminal. The political game he revels in is destructive to our democracy - exactly his aim. I hope many others will turn off the TV, close the magazine, refuse to read or listen to any discussion of this man or his "expertise".

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