which one was better?
which one was better?
I started reading Newsweek 35 years ago in high school current events class. During the intervening years, up until last spring, I was a subscriber. Truth be told, it was the new editor's constant harangue about religion that caused me to stop paying for Newseek, but the addition of this criminal as a "contributor" bolsters my decision further. George Will would surprise me once in a while with a position that was not always consistently right-wing, and heck, once in a while he could write about baseball. Rove, on the other hand, will consistently hit the party talking points, as this embarassingly term-paperesque entry demonstates.
Having started reading Newsweek in high school current events class about 35 years ago, I was a subscriber for all the intervening yerars up until last spring. In truth, it was the new editor and his constant religious harangue that tore it for me; but I feel even better about my decision to stop paying for Newsweek with the addition of this political criminal as a "contributor". George Will would occasionally surprise me with a position he took on a matter that was not always conservative - and heck, he could always write about baseball once in a while. Rove, I wager, will always pound home the right-wing talking points reliably, as this latest term-paperesque entry shows. Newsweek has lost it's way.
"Shortly after the 2001 Inauguration, I made a little talk saying I appreciated having the office because it had the only full-length vanity mirror in the West Wing, which gave me a chance to improve my rumpled appearance. The senator from New York confronted me shortly after and pointedly said she hadn't put the mirror there. I hadn't said she did, just that the mirror was there."
Classic 'Rove-Speak' of course. "True, I insinuated about, you know, like a BILLION times but I like really never actually said it!"
Oh, and some other advise for Republican candidates this time around? (from the Rove archives)
1) Spread the word that your opponent had an illegitimate 'colored' child.
2) Spread the word that your opponent 'might' be a closet child molester.
3) Have the DA or AG bring up bogus indictments against your opponent (which will be quickly dropped after you declare victory in the election...this one works like a charm)
Do this through an 'unaffiliated' operative of course to ensure 'plausible deniabilty'.
Hey King, against who? any country right? we just need the president and his cronies to lie to the American people saying that there is "proof" that bin-laden conspired with that country to attack on 9/11, that's all it takes, to lie to us. Have US forces found any WMD in Iraq? why are American lives being wasted every day over there? these people will continue to kill themselves, they've done so since Biblical times....
don't put words in my mouth, elzopi. What would have been your genius idea after 9/11? How do we keep that from happening again? And do we not do everything in our power to stike down upon those who attacked us?
Yes we should do something about those who attacked us. So lets quit attacking Iraq, who didn't do a thing to us and go get Bush's buddy Osama Bin Laden. Oh, that's right Bush said he's not concerned about him anymore. Could it be that he realized that if he kills or captures Osama that their familys will not continue to do business together.
Who would you vote for to be President or who would you consider and why.?Education and Health Care are crucial issues that need attention. Please prove your case.
IF what you say is true then why is Barak leading in Iowa where the majority of the population is white. What i find facinating is that some in the black community do not think Barak is black enough and view Clinton especially Bill, as "blacker" than Obama. I think Barak is unique in that he is both white and black and that adds to his appeal. His race works for him not against him. I think Americans are more uncomfortable having a black first lady than President(No offense Mrs. Obama but for some reason people are just scared of black people) Anyway there ignorance has been overshadowed by Obama's lead in Iowa. Comparing Obama to Hussein is outrageous it is desperate. As mentioned "truth" times have changed and i think you would be surprised at the number of women that are voting for Obama in Iowa, it is facinating. America loves Derek Jeter why not Obama; he can relate to people from all races. The only substantive point you mentioned was that is Hillary Clinton is a very capable candidate(So is Gore, despite his claim he invented the internet) who has a lot of experience in government. She grasps issues very well, perhaps even better than Obama. I think Obama's has not been battle tested yet and he faces a daunting challenges in persuading the American people that he has sufficient experience to make proper decisions as President. This is the one area where Hillary does have an advantage. Her experience as a lawyer and her role in Government throughout the years has been impactful. There is no doubt Mrs. CLinton has a great resume and is a very intelligent and capable of leading this country. Many people believe as do I, that she played a big role in Bill Clinton's successful domestic policies. Her challenge is to overcome her vote on Iraq and explain why like many others did not challenge Bush because of fear of political back lash. I do not blame her either the media is ruthless and one wrong move could have ended her nomination hopes. She also has to overcome that women in Iowa are not feeling her however women in New York love her. Can she win the presidency being the polarizing superstar the she is. I must admit of all the candiates she seems the most capable but being around Washington so long you lose some of your idealism. You realize that you cannot change the world one leap at a time but in small increments(lessons from 94) Truth I am from the younger generation and a person's color is not a factor, however in Baraks case I think his unique race works more for him than against him.
I think Obama says a lot of good things, but I will not vote for him for the simple reason that he said the first thing he would do as president is double foriegn aid. I am already sick of all the money that is going out of this country, while we have so many homeless people, lousy education system, many people with no health care. Not to mention that the Bush gang has already spent all the money and put us into debt for his STUPID war.
Sorry search, but you didn't. You have lead me to a transcript of a hearing where Henry Waxman says that the Director of the CIA said that Ms. Plame was a covert agent. If this were a court of law that would be impermissible hearsay. In the beginning, you claimed that classified = covert, which is clearly not correct. Now you have not shown that covert = covert and protected, which is what I requested. Under the statute the CIA cannot just claim an agent is covert, they must manage the identity of that agent to protect it from being divulged. It is clear they failed to do this. I continue to wonder why Fitz didn't bring charges if indeed Ms. Plame was covert and protected. What do you think? He's just a nice guy? Maybe, perhaps, he figured that the CIA couldn't provide sufficent substantiation to the claim??????????
Not quite. The testimony to which you refer is by Henry Waxman saying he has been permitted by General Hayden to make the remarks. The General himself is not testifying. I also note, that though this transcript is of comments made in March of this year, it is yet marked preliminary. Do you have a reference where General Hayden himself testifies? Or anyone at CIA testifies? BTW, did you read the relevant legislation? It is not sufficient for the CIA to claim that an agent is covert, they must also do what is deemed necessary under to law to protect the identity of that agent.
Your original comment read:
"Pls show me where Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent, protected by the applicable statutes, when Novak published his article!"
That what I have done. Accept the facts or not. Prosectuion motivations and results are a totally different issue.. Understand I'm "justtiredofhistoryrewrittenbyRepubs@myjobdonehere.com"
Karl Rove was not elected to office, he was hired to implement winning campaign strategies and act as an advisor to the President. Therefore, it would be a breach of national security for Karl Rove to share information that he discussed with the President or white house hierarchy officials with Scott McClellan. Thank God Karl was smart enough not to let that man know anything. why? He's hummin like a bird. He would have spilled sensative information all over the planet. This is why it is important to have loyal people in your administration. Throughout history people in scott's shoes have not always told the truth. There job is to speak not to write or formulate policy. I think that running the white house is a very serious task, it is not a soap opera. Valerie and her husband were spies in otherwords they are trained liars, .Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive! Do you know how many times Valerie and her husband screwed people over. People think that they can spy and lie and then when it happens to them it is a crime against humanity that must be heard by congress Two wrongs do not make a right. However people need to understand that if the public was privy to the same sensative information as the President; there would be panic.
Karl Rove has recieved a great response and provides interesting views candidates strenghts and weaknesses. His article has helped us to focus on the strategies that candidates and parties use to gain the public's support. There is a serious threat in our world today, dirty bombs. Three men were arrested for allegedly trying to sell weapons-grade uranium, which apparently came from the former USSR. It is very easy now a days to get enough uranium to make a dirty bomb.There are many avenues a terrorist organization can pursue to obtain these materials. It could be through mafia organizations in Eastern Europe who have connections with Russian organized crime or government officials in Asia, Europe and the Middle East who all share common interests with these terrorist organizations. Which candidate can destabilize these threats and how will they secure the Russian nuclear, chemical and biological arsernal?? Which candidate can best manage the American relationship with China, Russia and the Middle East?? Having a bad realationship with these countries will make it impossible to successfully nolify this threat. Do any of these candidates have the skill, courage and unwavering determination to confront this issue.
Guilliani has a very rigid mind and power hungry mentality. He laughed at the thought of terrorist flying planes into the trade center; he never saw it coming. We need a President that can anticipate threats and derail them before they become a reality. A big part of that is managing relations in the middle east, eastere europe, China and Africa. Africa really needs attention. If their problems are not dealt with the world will pay a high price. Can Guilliani make head way in Africa, I don't think so. In eastern Europe I don't think so. In the middleast? You have got to be kidding me. I think he would make a good domestic President. To his credit he was a good mayor, but the means he took to achieve his goals were ruthless. I think Guiliani has a rigid mind and does not care if people have to suffer. His approach in New York was not tough, it was cruel. I think Guilaini should manage the treasury department. Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are the only two candidates that won't forget about you and I and what is best for you and I. As mentioned Guilliani has a rigid mind and will only serve the intersest of his personal networks; Orthodox Jews are great financial supporters of Guiliani, I just cannnot envision Guilliani bringing peace to the Middle East and improving the lives of all not just those who are "worhty".
To: gmerkert
Karl Rove was not elected to office, he was hired to implement winning campaign strategies and act as an advisor to the President. Therefore, it would be a breach of national security for Karl Rove to share information that he discussed with the President or white house hierarchy officials with Scott McClellan. Thank God Karl was smart enough not to let that man know anything. why? He's hummin like a bird. He would have spilled sensative information all over the planet. This is why it is important to have loyal people in your administration. Throughout history people in scott's shoes have not always told the truth. There job is to speak not to write or formulate policy. I think that running the white house is a very serious task, it is not a soap opera. Valerie and her husband were spies in otherwords they are trained liars, .Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive! Do you know how many times Valerie and her husband screwed people over. People think that they can spy and lie and then when it happens to them it is a crime against humanity that must be heard by congress Two wrongs do not make a right. However people need to understand that if the public was privy to the same sensative information as the President; there would be panic.
Karl Rove has recieved a great response and provides interesting views candidates strenghts and weaknesses. His article has helped us to focus on the strategies that candidates and parties use to gain the public's support. There is a serious threat in our world today, dirty bombs. Three men were arrested for allegedly trying to sell weapons-grade uranium, which apparently came from the former USSR. It is very easy now a days to get enough uranium to make a dirty bomb.There are many avenues a terrorist organization can pursue to obtain these materials. It could be through mafia organizations in Eastern Europe who have connections with Russian organized crime or government officials in Asia, Europe and the Middle East who all share common interests with these terrorist organizations. Which candidate can destabilize these threats and how will they secure the Russian nuclear, chemical and biological arsernal?? Which candidate can best manage the American relationship with China, Russia and the Middle East?? Having a bad realationship with these countries will make it impossible to successfully nolify this threat. Do any of these candidates have the skill, courage and unwavering determination to confront this issue.
Guilliani has a very rigid mind and power hungry mentality. He laughed at the thought of terrorist flying planes into the trade center; he never saw it coming. We need a President that can anticipate threats and derail them before they become a reality. A big part of that is managing relations in the middle east, eastere europe, China and Africa. Africa really needs attention. If their problems are not dealt with the world will pay a high price. Can Guilliani make head way in Africa, I don't think so. In eastern Europe I don't think so. In the middleast? You have got to be kidding me. I think he would make a good domestic President. To his credit he was a good mayor, but the means he took to achieve his goals were ruthless. I think Guiliani has a rigid mind and does not care if people have to suffer. His approach in New York was not tough, it was cruel. I think Guilaini should manage the treasury department. Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are the only two candidates that won't forget about you and I and what is best for you and I. As mentioned Guilliani has a rigid mind and will only serve the intersest of his personal networks; Orthodox Jews are great financial supporters of Guiliani, I just cannnot envision Guilliani bringing peace to the Middle East and improving the lives of all not just those who are "worhty".
Scott McClellan, who served so willingly and loyally for three years as the Bush Administration's mouthpiece, says that Mr. Rove lied to him about his role in outing Valerie Plame.
So my question is this: if Karl Rove lied about something as critical to our nation's security as his involvement in outing Valerie Plame, how do we know he isn't he lying to me in the pages of your magazine?
Do you have other known liars writing "Opinion" columns in your magazine?
Enter Your CommentTo: gmerkert
Karl Rove was not elected to office, he was hired to implement winning campaign strategies and act as an advisor to the President. Therefore, it would be a breach of national security for Karl Rove to share information that he discussed with the President or white house hierarchy officials with Scott McClellan. Thank God Karl was smart enough not to let that man know anything. why? He's hummin like a bird. He would have spilled sensative information all over the planet. This is why it is important to have loyal people in your administration. Throughout history people in scott's shoes have not always told the truth. There job is to speak not to write or formulate policy. I think that running the white house is a very serious task, it is not a soap opera. Valerie and her husband were spies in otherwords they are trained liars, .Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive! Do you know how many times Valerie and her husband screwed people over. People think that they can spy and lie and then when it happens to them it is a crime against humanity that must be heard by congress Two wrongs do not make a right. However people need to understand that if the public was privy to the same sensative information as the President; there would be panic.
Karl Rove has recieved a great response and provides interesting views candidates strenghts and weaknesses. His article has helped us to focus on the strategies that candidates and parties use to gain the public's support. There is a serious threat in our world today, dirty bombs. Three men were arrested for allegedly trying to sell weapons-grade uranium, which apparently came from the former USSR. It is very easy now a days to get enough uranium to make a dirty bomb.There are many avenues a terrorist organization can pursue to obtain these materials. It could be through mafia organizations in Eastern Europe who have connections with Russian organized crime or government officials in Asia, Europe and the Middle East who all share common interests with these terrorist organizations. Which candidate can destabilize these threats and how will they secure the Russian nuclear, chemical and biological arsernal?? Which candidate can best manage the American relationship with China, Russia and the Middle East?? Having a bad realationship with these countries will make it impossible to successfully nolify this threat. Do any of these candidates have the skill, courage and unwavering determination to confront this issue.
Guilliani has a very rigid mind and power hungry mentality. He laughed at the thought of terrorist flying planes into the trade center; he never saw it coming. We need a President that can anticipate threats and derail them before they become a reality. A big part of that is managing relations in the middle east, eastere europe, China and Africa. Africa really needs attention. If their problems are not dealt with the world will pay a high price. Can Guilliani make head way in Africa, I don't think so. In eastern Europe I don't think so. In the middleast? You have got to be kidding me. I think he would make a good domestic President. To his credit he was a good mayor, but the means he took to achieve his goals were ruthless. I think Guiliani has a rigid mind and does not care if people have to suffer. His approach in New York was not tough, it was cruel. I think Guilaini should manage the treasury department. Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are the only two candidates that won't forget about you and I and what is best for you and I. As mentioned Guilliani has a rigid mind and will only serve the intersest of his personal networks; Orthodox Jews are great financial supporters of Guiliani, I just cannnot envision Guilliani bringing peace to the Middle East and improving the lives of all not just those who are "worhty".
To: gmerkert
Karl Rove was not elected to office, he was hired to implement winning campaign strategies and act as an advisor to the President. Therefore, it would be a breach of national security for Karl Rove to share information that he discussed with the President or white house hierarchy officials with Scott McClellan. Thank God Karl was smart enough not to let that man know anything. why? He's hummin like a bird. He would have spilled sensative information all over the planet. This is why it is important to have loyal people in your administration. Throughout history people in scott's shoes have not always told the truth. There job is to speak not to write or formulate policy. I think that running the white house is a very serious task, it is not a soap opera. Valerie and her husband were spies in otherwords they are trained liars, .Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive! Do you know how many times Valerie and her husband screwed people over. People think that they can spy and lie and then when it happens to them it is a crime against humanity that must be heard by congress Two wrongs do not make a right. However people need to understand that if the public was privy to the same sensative information as the President; there would be panic
Karl Rove has recieved a great response and provides interesting views candidates strenghts and weaknesses. His article has helped us to focus on the strategies that candidates and parties use to gain the public's support. There is a serious threat in our world today, dirty bombs. Three men were arrested for allegedly trying to sell weapons-grade uranium, which apparently came from the former USSR. It is very easy now a days to get enough uranium to make a dirty bomb.There are many avenues a terrorist organization can pursue to obtain these materials. It could be through mafia organizations in Eastern Europe who have connections with Russian organized crime or government officials in Asia, Europe and the Middle East who all share common interests with these terrorist organizations. Which candidate can destabilize these threats and how will they secure the Russian nuclear, chemical and biological arsernal?? Which candidate can best manage the American relationship with China, Russia and the Middle East?? Having a bad realationship with these countries will make it impossible to successfully nolify this threat. Do any of these candidates have the skill, courage and unwavering determination to confront this issue.
Searchfortruth---here's a place to start----http://www.digenovatoensing.com/housetestimony_3_2007.htm
Check out the House Transcripts: http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20071114150609.pdf, Page 5 and 6 lines 82-91 .
CIA Director General Michael Hayden affirmed to the House that Plames status was covert.at the time of Novak's disclosure. I would take the CIA's position as definitve.
Unfortunately for his new employer, Mr Rove's complete disdain for the small matters of accuracy and truth make any pages containing anything written by him a "must ignore" section of an otherwise eminently readable magazine.
Enter comments if any for reporting abuse
Discuss