How to Beat Hillary (Next) November

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  • Posted By: tiredofpoliticsasusualbydems @ 11/29/2007 10:29:57 AM

    No, it's not hair splitting. Have you read the salient legislation protecting the identity of CIA covert agents? If you haven't then suggest that you do before continueing. BTW if the equality is as you described, and there was an investigation by a Special Counsel, and if, as you say, it is proven that Valerie Plame was a 'covert' agent, then why were no charges brought against Richard Armitage? As I recall, he admitted early on to Fitz that he was the source!

  • Posted By: tiredofpoliticsasusualbydems @ 11/28/2007 11:25:07 AM

    And by the CIA saying that her status is 'classified' information, you know that means that she was a 'covert' agent at the time of the Novak article?

    • Posted By: SearchforTruth @ 11/29/2007 1:56:12 AM

      Read the message "CIA undercover operative " = covert. Wanna split more hairs?

  • Posted By: jadams15 @ 11/26/2007 2:05:05 PM

    I see no fault in Senator Clinton confronting Mr. Rove on repeatedly telling of the mirror in the West Wing story, erroneously. Mr. Rove seems to think this is a character fault, and if this is what he actually believes this, I find that odd. Mr. Rove, from what I can tell from career has taken partisan politics in the United Sates to one of most contentious periods in history by practicing an "all means justify the ends" type of politics. The end result, sadly has been George W. Bush as President the past 7 years.

    I do find it odd that a man, such as Karl Rove, who has won elections of conservative judges in Alabama???s Supreme Court by casting their opponents as homosexual and worse by various whisper campaigns and by staged political misinformation events, who has the nerve to ???wonder??? why an opponent of his, like Hillary Clinton, would react to his ???little stories??? so harshly. It is almost as if Mr. Rove, fashions himself a ???regular joe??? spinning a harmless little tale; poppy ***!

    Mr. Rove should actually be charged in a court of law for his transgressions in the political arena and more specifically for disclosing confidential information on CIA operatives for political purposes. He should not be given a stage in Newsweek as an ???objective??? commentator.

    • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 11/28/2007 2:07:44 PM

      I say wait until the current administration is gone then prosecute them all: Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Gonzalez. If the dems tried it now, Bush couldn't be prosecuted, and he'd just pardon the rest, even if they were convicted.

      If the law prevents this, then it should be changed. We need true accountability, you know, like the Republicans are always screaming for...

  • Posted By: Shankardada2 @ 11/21/2007 3:05:23 PM

    Well, thrasher32, Eleanor Clift is writing in Newsweek. I'd say that does open the doors for Kim Jong il or Manson. The Liberal bloodlust has blinded them to the fact that Rove is following a long line of politicians-turned talking heads.

    • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 11/21/2007 3:14:02 PM

      Eleanor Clift is an intelligent woman. Karl Rove is an ignorant subhuman piece of garbage. He an Anne Coulter need to wonder-twins activate and turn into a 100 foot satan.

      • Posted By: Nephy @ 11/26/2007 3:13:12 PM

        She is only intelligent because she is saying what you want to hear- anything else gets fed into your head and all you seem to want to do is plug your ears and call people names.

        • Posted By: thrasher32 @ 11/28/2007 1:59:18 PM

          First off, I really do think Eleanor Clift is an intelligent person. I don't agree with everything she says, but at least she tries to express her views without attacking and name-calling.

          Second of all, I'm not a name-caller by disposition, but I'll call Rove and Coulter names all day long, they are worthless human garbage, the worst humanity has to offer.

  • Posted By: SmartyPantsLiberal @ 11/28/2007 11:41:41 AM

    And your comments here pertain to what? Rove's article? NOT! Afraid to open yourselves to that??? I cannot believe you have him contributing to your magazine. There goes the neighborhood!

  • Posted By: Palukas @ 11/24/2007 1:58:02 AM

    As a veteran journalist and author I'm appalled newsweek would hire the likes of karl Rove to write q column. It's the journalistic equicalent turning turning the asylum over to a promient inmate. Sore enough, Rove opens by irging Republican candiates to address forthrightly the srerious issues facing Americans. This is worthy of Evelyn Waugh. It's was Rove's iron strategy that GOP candiates avoid issues of import -- paycjecks, health care -- as if the cqarried plague -- but stick to values, where the decuces are wild.

    • Posted By: sixtees @ 11/28/2007 11:20:56 AM

      As a veteran journalist you should be more adept at editing and spell checking your multiple posts.

  • Posted By: tiredofpoliticsasusualbydems @ 11/27/2007 8:44:29 PM

    Pls show me where Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent, protected by the applicable statutes, when Novak published his article!

    • Posted By: SearchforTruth @ 11/28/2007 10:47:52 AM

      On September 16, 2003 the CIA sent a letter to the US Department of Justice, asserting that Plame's status as a CIA undercover operative was classified information and requesting a federal investigation.
      Seems like the CIA should know if she was covert.

    • Posted By: SearchforTruth @ 11/28/2007 10:47:17 AM

      On September 16, 2003 the CIA sent a letter to the US Department of Justice, asserting that Plame's status as a CIA undercover operative was classified information and requesting a federal investigation.
      Seems to me that the CIA should know if she was covert.

  • Posted By: gmerkert @ 11/27/2007 9:06:21 PM

    "The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.
    "There was one problem. It was not true.
    "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself."

    --from "What Happened" by Scott McClellan and to be published by Public Affairs Books in Spring, 2008

  • Posted By: gmerkert @ 11/27/2007 9:04:17 PM

    "The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.
    "There was one problem. It was not true.
    "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself.

    ??????from "What Happened" by Scott McClellan to be published by Public Affairs Books in Spring, 2008

  • Posted By: SWatan2007 @ 11/27/2007 6:59:57 PM

    Really bad idea adding Carl to your list of columnists. Totally destroys your credibility with the real world. I'll never buy your mag. again as long as this liar is on your payroll.

  • Posted By: marshalphillips @ 11/26/2007 5:32:19 AM

    In the telling of the mirror story, it's obvious that the intent is to demonstrate that Hillary is vain. When Rove found out she didn't put it there, why didn't he include that fact in the retealling? And why didn't he find out who did put the mirror in the office? Typical Rove tatic to smear with inference.

    • Posted By: tiredofpoliticsasusualbydems @ 11/26/2007 7:06:05 PM

      Pls tell us just who might be surprised to find out that politicians have a higher than average vanity score??? Give us a break por favor. When is the last time you saw a pol show up for a meeting in her / his bathrobe and slippers without hair carefully coiffed? Just maybe Rove was saying what he said...Mrs. Clinton doesn't forget, she is formidable, etc..

  • Posted By: jadams15 @ 11/26/2007 2:06:00 PM

    I see no fault in Senator Clinton confronting Mr. Rove on repeatedly telling of the mirror in the West Wing story, erroneously. Mr. Rove seems to think this is a character fault, and if this is what he actually believes this, I find that odd. Mr. Rove, from what I can tell from career has taken partisan politics in the United Sates to one of most contentious periods in history by practicing an "all means justify the ends" type of politics. The end result, sadly has been George W. Bush as President the past 7 years.

    I do find it odd that a man, such as Karl Rove, who has won elections of conservative judges in Alabama???s Supreme Court by casting their opponents as homosexual and worse by various whisper campaigns and by staged political misinformation events, who has the nerve to ???wonder??? why an opponent of his, like Hillary Clinton, would react to his ???little stories??? so harshly. It is almost as if Mr. Rove, fashions himself a ???regular joe??? spinning a harmless little tale; poppy ***!

    Mr. Rove should actually be charged in a court of law for his transgressions in the political arena and more specifically for disclosing confidential information on CIA operatives for political purposes. He should not be given a stage in Newsweek as an ???objective??? commentator.

    • Posted By: tiredofpoliticsasusualbydems @ 11/26/2007 7:02:59 PM

      And you need to spell out in detail, with appropriate sources identified, which confidential information on CIA operatives you mean!

  • Posted By: muesmuemboy @ 11/22/2007 12:02:05 PM

    Once again, Carl demonstrates his ability for understanding todays politics. Carl has this ability to leave the weekkneeded Liberials screaming. The leader of the Liberals claimed defeate in Iraq, that has since been proven to be false. It brings me much joy to see Newsweek bring a voice of reason and truth to a world of socialists and Liberials.

    • Posted By: madest @ 11/22/2007 7:05:45 PM

      The fact that you spell your heroes name incorrectly speaks volumes about you and the intelligence of your party.

      • Posted By: Nephy @ 11/26/2007 3:10:44 PM

        Heroes is plural. Perhaps you meant hero's?

        Don't mock someone's spelling and expect to get away with gaffes of your own.

  • Posted By: ghostcommander @ 11/26/2007 3:01:35 PM

    The following statement was made by Karl Rove. "As people do better, they start voting like Republicans-unless they have to much education and vote Democratic. "

  • Posted By: ghostcommander @ 11/26/2007 2:54:51 PM

    The following is an actual statement by Karl Rove. "As people do better, they start voting like Republicans-unless they have too much education and vote Democratic"

  • Posted By: delraybuzz @ 11/25/2007 7:02:25 PM

    I loathed and distrusted this sorry excuse for a man while he worked for this administration. His manipulative power helped ruin our country, and I do NOT trust any agenda he might exhude in the columns of Newsweek. How COULD you, Newsweek? I've been a subscriber for many years because I trusted your judgement. You may end up being the second subscription I've cancelled this month. I can get this drivel in the news media every day of the week. I used to TRUST you; sad, but true!

  • Posted By: tiredofpoliticsasusualbydems @ 11/25/2007 5:46:29 PM

    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then re often shocked and offended to learn that there are other views." An observation from William F. Buckley Jr.

  • Posted By: djfoster @ 11/24/2007 5:40:11 PM

    The idea that columns from Markos Moulitsas and Karl Rove provide balanced opinions is ludicrous. Sorry, Kos fans, but Moulitsas has accomplished almost nothing politically. Rove has directed the dirtiest, most divisive, and most damaging campaigns and administrations in my memory. It will take decades to recover from the damage the Bush administration has caused nationally and internationally, all with major contributions from Mr. Rove.

    I can???t bear the thought that my subscription pays for distributing Karl Rove???s poison. Newsweek, of course, has the freedom to publish what it likes. I, likewise, have the freedom to make the next issue with a Karl Rove column the last of my 35-plus years as a Newsweek subscriber.

  • Posted By: Jonathan1005 @ 11/24/2007 3:20:42 PM

    Rove simply confirms his misogynous leanings and proof that the ''gender card'' was drawn long before Hillary even began her bid for office, by beginning his attack on her as vain and icy. He certainly wouldn't have begun a SERIOUS article about a man that way. The rest of the article is fluff and B.S. He just wants to keep the sexism bubbling beneath the surface, reminding all to hate and fear woman in power.

  • Posted By: Palukas @ 11/24/2007 1:59:49 AM

    Meanwhile, the final irony in Mr. Rove presentaqtion is that he and other GOP leaders know exactly how to stop Hillary -- by exhuming the redacted 1

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