Utah’s Cross Controversy

You know what I find funny? The fact the so many people are more than willing in this case to stand up and basically say that the cross means nothing. The repeatably say ??? oh it 's not religious at all. At least have the courage of your (supposed) convictions.

Well it seems that the judge decided the crosses are secular in nature. Hopefully that will calm the ire of some of the more divisive Christians that have commented here. Of course AA's announced intention to appeal is probably going to herald the return of outraged religious invective.

What disrespect to the fallen troopers and thier familys. No one was trying to endurse religion, yet you athiests can't even honor someone who deserves it becuase must have it your way. I don't see Christians get offended if they see a fallen trooper's memorial marked with the Statr of David on public land and I don't see muslim or jew get offended to see a memorial cross on public land. The only people who get offended are athiests. If you think this stuff is illegal then you might as well throw the constitution out becuase there have been crosses on public land and strong government/religious ties for the past 250 years. No one got offended back then and I'm not going to sit back and let some self-centered athiests ruin what are country stands for because they get "offended". I get offended, and so to millions of others, by your anti-religious posts and comments, but you don't see them sueing you. Jeeze, you can't even pray in public or honor fallen cops/soldiers without getting sued by jerks like you guys or the ACLU anymore. Seroisly athiesism is no better than any religion. Athiests still have different beliefs and views which means they still have extremists. Plus two of the three worlds largest murders were athiests. Moa and Stalin (I'm not sure about Hitler). So if your saying any religion is bad becuase of extremists within that religion then athiesim must be the most evil thing on Earth.
Either athiests like the dumb ones posting anti-religion comments here are brainwashed communists or are just plain hypocrytes. Niether is better.

If we all simply forgave each other and apologized, we could probably afford full size bronze statues of the fallen officers with all the money we'd save on legal fees. None of the atheists I know would intentionally seek to cause disruptive pain to families who have lost mothers and fathers in the line of duty. Their "coexist" bumper sticker means something to them. Christians I know who live their religion seek a life that is lost in the service of others while forgiving those who know not what they do. As a diverse society we must resist efforts by media conglomerates and lawyers to plant hatred in our hearts so they can profit from the contention. It's a business model that as a side effect destroys the fabric that holds together our society, our friendships, and our peace.

putting memorial crosses on public land
This land is just that public and the govt did not put this there they allowed it to be put there. They did not knock over buildings or move anything it is a small spot of land to place a memorial marker for those who have died in the line of duty.

There are other states that post crosses along roads where someone has died. Let these people and the Utah State Troopers remember their lost loved ones as they wish. If you athiests don't like it, look at the other side of the road when you drive by. We don't push our ways on you.

What disrespect to the fallen troopers and thier familys. No one was trying to endurse religion, yet you athiests can't even honor someone who deserves it becuase must have it your way. I don't see Christians get offended if they see a fallen trooper's memorial marked with the Statr of David on public land and I don't see muslim or jew get offended to see a memorial cross on public land. The only people who get offended are athiests. If you think this stuff is illegal then you might as well throw the constitution out becuase there have been crosses on public land and strong government/religious ties for the past 250 years. No one got offended back then and I'm not going to sit back and let some self-centered athiests ruin what are country stands for because they get "offended". I get offended, and so to millions of others, by your anti-religious posts and comments, but you don't see them sueing you. Jeeze, you can't even pray in public or honor fallen cops/soldiers without getting sued by jerks like you guys or the ACLU anymore. Seroisly athiesism is no better than any religion. Athiests still have different beliefs and views which means they still have extremists. Plus two of the three worlds largest murders were athiests. Moa and Stalin (I'm not sure about Hitler). So if your saying any religion is bad becuase of extremists within that religion then athiesim must be the most evil thing on Earth.
Either athiests like the dumb ones posting anti-religion comments here are brainwashed communists or are just plain hypocrytes. Niether is better.

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2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
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???Idiom9. get religion, Informal. a. to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
b. to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.

I thought I would try to get a definition of religion to understand the thought's of others and as I see it (my point of view) I see atheism as a religion a group of people who has a belief in something this belief is the unbelief or the non-existence of a god or higher power. It may be god, jesus christ or buddah or whatever being.
I see this as a group of people using the judicial system to force me to believe in what they believe in athiests are part of a religion it is the practice to not believe in god so please try not to force your opinion on me and my family

As to the case involved here Keep the crosses where they are this is to help remember the loss of someone that was serving and protecting others not to remember god.

Who in the world are these people who think that they are better than everyone else? Where do these people come from that want to take away something that isn't there to take? Who, by God, do these people think that they are that they can think that they are better than God? For as long as we have more than one human being on this planet there will be a difference in opinion. Having a cross on the side of the road to pay respects to a fallen officer of the law? Have you ever lost anyone??? Christianity is for each of us to have a relationship with God. If you don't believe in God, fine! But don't think that you can take God away from me just becasue you are too blind to see truth!

gigemaggs83, I'm not the one who supports letting a government put 12 foot high crosses on public property next to a highway for everyone to see their government supports Christianity. I respect our constitution. It's the Christians who don't respect our wall of separation, who even deny our wall of separation, who are the thugs, the bullies who are trying to make this country a Christian theocracy. This should never have happened. If Christians weren't so immoral, this idea would never have been suggested. There are many alternatives to the major symbol of the idiotic Christian religion. But the Christian thugs decided here's an opportunity to shove their stupid religion into everyone else's face. Christians are the most immoral people in human history. Why can't they keep their insanity in their monuments to stupidity they call churches?

Why should the religion of atheism always be right? Why do they think that the whole country should run by their religion? They worship their own god called "nongod" and it looks like to me that they are very dedicated to this god of theirs, which of course is themselves. They are a religion of self worship. And I do not care if they do that, but give me a break. This helped the family to heal and they (the atheist) think they have to destroy that. They are more concerned about their own agenda (religion) then they are for the family of the dead troopers. Next thing they'll do is try to outlaw every telephone pole, because I'll tell you right now that every telephone pole reminds me of the cross where my Lord and Saviour died.
Peter

What difference could it possibly make what shape the memorial is? You take offense because it's a cross. If you don't believe in God, why would you even care? Your offense of a symbol that already makes no difference to you makes no sense.