Utah’s Cross Controversy

Regardless of what the "supreme court" has said in the last few decades, the first amendment to the constitution does not, in fact guarantee a separation of church and state. The text: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"
In that the State of Utah has made no law placing the cross on public land, but has merely authorized it at the request of it's citizens, no wrong has been committed here. Although it is not politically correct to recall it, the founding fathers never intended for this to be an atheistic country, and went to a great deal of trouble to attempt to prevent the bastardizaton of the constitution that has occured in the past few decades. I am embarrassed for AAI, and for the judge if he decides the crosses must go.

The cross is indeed a religious symbol but there should be no problem putting it or any other religious symbol on public land. Neither Christianity nor any ohter religious or philosophical belief system should be pushed out of the public square. What they do need to do is let each trooper choose his or her own symbol.

I don't see this matter as The UHPA nor The State of Utah as supporting any specifis religion. They are simply marking the location of a fallen Trooper killed in the Line of Duty. People all over this country plaxe a cross on the roadside where friends and loved ones are lost due to traffic accidents. Give me a break and someone buy these fanitics a clue. This is a frivilous lawsuit and should be treated as such by The Court. I call them fanitics because they obviously have too much time on their hands and really need a hobby. They should be billed for The UHPA's atty. fees, The Courts fees, and wasting tax-payer monies. Then let them take azn even larger step in their foolishness: Take on The US Military for having Chaplins. See how far you get with that or Law enforcement agencies for the same.
Isn't there enough whining ang crying, mis-trust and hate already. Do these few malcontents have to create more. I feel that all who serve should have monuments of rememberance if their life in lost LoD, (Line of Duty). Remember atheists these fallen Peace Officers were protecting YOU TO. It is unconstitutional for another to force their beliefs on you; Likewise , it is also unconstitutional for you and your group to force your lack of belief on others. Get a new hobby, better yet GET A LIFE!

This is a very difficult issue. No one is attacking the troopers who died nor the ability to remember them or their sacrifices. The issue is the manner in which they are remembered, specifically using a cross. A cross is symbol of Christianity the world over, whether intended or not. The cross is Christianity is religion. It should not be posted on public land. I think they should re-erect an even bigger memorial for each trooper; a plaque, a monument....just nothing with religious assciations. I would be willing to donate to such a fund...just to ensure that this legal battle doesn't detract from the memory of the troopers. Down with the crossed. Long live the memory of the fallen troopers.

THIS IS DIRECTED AT THE MEMBERS OF THE ATHEIST COMMUNITY THAT HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE THIS A PROBLEM---- THAT ARE I THINK YOU COULD FIND A MORE URGENT MATTER TO ADDRESS THAN THE FACT THAT THERE ARE CROSSES ALONG A US HIGHWAY. WHY THEY ARE THERE IS APPARENTLY IRRELEVANT TO YOUR ORGANIZATION. NO ONE HAS PUT A CROSS IN YOUR FRONT YARD AND IS FORCING ANYTHING ON YOU. WE ARE FREE TO EXPRESS OURSELVES JUST LIKE YOU, IS HAVING THE CROSSES THERE HURTING YOU IN SOME WAY OR CAUSING YOU SUCH MISERY AND DESPAIR THAT IT IS WORTH IT TO INTRUDE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LOSS AND GRIEVING OR HEALING PROCESS? I DONT THINK SO! IS ANYONE IN ANY OTHER RELIGION COMING TO YOU AND SAYING HOW WRONG YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU ARENT DEALING WITH A LOSS IN THE SAME WAY AS THEM? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT! BUT IF SO WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE? IT'S CALLED HAVING RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S BELIEFS. THIS WORLD IS FULL OF HATE AND CRIME, MAYBE IF YOUR ORGANIZATION PUT SOME OF IT'S POWER TO GOOD USE YOU MIGHT FIND THAT YOU CAN DO WONDERFUL PRODUCTIVE THINGS. CREATING HURT AND ANGUISH FOR FAMILIES OF FALLEN PATROLMEN IS NOT PRODUCTIVE AND DOES NOT FOLLOW WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN ON YOUR WEBSITE-- AS FOLLOWS-- (YOU CAN BECOME A MEMBER NOW AND HELP US GROW AND BE OF MORE HELP TO MORE PEOPLE.) IT HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM FOR ANY AMERICANS WHO ARE JUST LIKE YOU AND PROTECTED BY OUR CONSTITUTION, UNTIL YOU DECIDED TO MAKE IT A PROBLEM. SHAME ON YOU! I EMAILED THIS TO THE ORGANIZATION ON THEIR WEBSITE. YOU CAN EMAIL THEM TOO AT -- INFO@ATHEISTS.ORG WEBSITE IS WWW.ATHEISTS.ORG

I assume people who had posted here are Christian or are pro-Christians. I believe if you can think of people from other groups, athiests, agnostics, Muslims, Hindi, Budhists, etc., they might all relate the cross to Christianity, as clearly stated in the article, and they might find the crosses displayed to be disrespectful and inconsiderate. I don't have anything against honoring police officers who died performing their duties, but perhaps instead of putting crosses in public places such as the highway, and asking people who don't like the sight of it to look away, they can think of putting up another sign.

Hard to believe the lengths some people will go to because of a memorial cross for a fallen police officer. A simple solution would be to put the cross on the other side of the fence with the property owners permission.
Maybe some people need to get a life and get over it. And yes we need need to get God back into the schools and into our lives. God bless all the fallen heroes............................

Why is everybody picking on the Christians now days? Is it in-vogue? These atheists who have brought suit against Utah based on their "beliefs" have presented their selves as a group, or in effect, a religion. Why should their "religious" views which dictate totally no religion be held over any other view. A ruling to remove the crosses would be an official government sanction of their "non-religion" -religion . oveCCChritianity.thChristianireligion.religion.

I applaud those who put up the crosses. When I see a cross I recall and honor those who are being remembered, including the one who died on the cross. God needs to be put back in the public space, when He was taken out of the schools this country started going down hill.

The constitution grants us freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Since the crosses require no citizen to observe or respect the Christian religion in any way, shape or from - there is nothing wrong with the crosses on public land. Get over it!!

I am absolutely appalled by "Sloppy's" comment. These men and women put their lives on the line everyday for you and I. Grow up and show some respect for those who died to protet you.

I think we should put up a cross where every person is killed! Hell put a cross up where every person dies from natural causes too! Lets cover the planet in crosses! We are going to need about 8 billion of them!! Oooo its a good time to invest in the cross making companies!